Thursday, 2015-02-12

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ttxredrobot: around?16:00
redrobotttx o/16:01
ttx#startmeeting incub_sync16:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 12 16:01:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'incub_sync'16:01
ttx#topic Barbican16:01
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/kilo-316:01
ttxdo you plan to add more to this ?16:02
redrobotYes, we have a mid-cycle sprint next week, so we'll use some of the time to get people to commit to blueprints before the fetaure freeze16:02
ttxredrobot: cool16:03
ttxWe'll skip next week syncs, btw16:03
ttxFWIW even if we don't formally "incubate" anymore we'll keep those syncs for the time being16:03
ttxwhile I reorganize how we do release management and I see how many projects I can actually coordinate16:03
redrobotsounds good.16:03
ttxI might end up making it simple enough to cover more than the projects in the current "integrated release"16:04
ttxin which case Barbican could get a release:coordinated tag16:04
ttxlike integrated projects will probably have16:05
ttxso, while things are changing, let's not change too much our habits :)16:05
ttxredrobot: questions ?16:05
redrobothehe, sounds good to me.16:05
redrobotNot really.  I put in some space requests in the spreadsheet you sent last week16:05
ttxthx! Will have a look to that16:06
redrobotawesome, see you again in two weeks then. :)16:06
ttxnot sure we'll have bswartz today16:07
ttxdeep in some midcycle16:07
ttxflaper87: want to run now ?16:07
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Kiallttx: I'm about if you've been stood up ;)16:15
ttxKiall: my savior!16:15
ttxI was feeling a bit lonely here16:15
ttx#topic Designate16:15
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/kilo-316:15
ttxis that the full extent of what you're working on ?16:16
ttxor do you expect to add more ?16:16
KiallThe team filed + triaged lots of bugs yesterday, but I've been travelling pretty much solidly for the last month so haven't 100% caught up yet.16:16
flaper87ttx: here now (ping me) :D16:16
KiallIn terms of BP's - That's it as far as I know16:16
KiallStability fixes from now on16:16
ttxalright...16:17
ttxalso read what I told redrobot above: even  if we don't formally "incubate" anymore we'll keep those syncs for the time being, while we figure out what to exactly do16:17
Kiallttx: yea, makes sense.. I'm still trying to figure out what all the changes mean for us ;)16:17
ttxwhat is costly is our try to predict what will be in next milestones... and apparently this has little value16:17
ttxif we keep it around the release mechanics, it's relatively cheap16:18
ttxand won't need as much coordination16:18
ttxso I'm working on simplifying the work to the point where supporting more projects is not an issue16:18
ttx(just talkign about release management supporting more than the current "integarted release" here16:18
ttxso in the mean time let's act as if nothing changed16:19
KiallMakes sense, so you do intend to keep ahold of the non-core releases, but only from a tooling rather than release manage POV?16:19
Kiallrelease manager*16:19
ttxyeah, mostly16:19
ttxwe'll skip next week syncs though, nno point in extra useless meeting in the soft belly of the milestone16:19
KiallSure - Sounds good16:20
ttxquestions on that ?16:20
ttxor anythign else ?16:20
KiallAny idea on when we might make any changes?16:20
ttxbefore the end of the cycle16:20
KiallK - So L will be entirely done by the "new rules"16:21
ttxthe idea would be to swtich to reactive rather than predictive handling of milestones for Liberty16:21
ttx(i can't get used to that)16:21
KiallLiberty? yea - I'm going to keep calling it L - or Lima ;)16:21
ttxbasically, we would stop trying to predict what will land in next milestone (and fail at it)16:21
ttxand just keep track of what actually landed16:21
ttxsince nobody seems to consume our predictions anyway16:22
ttxand those are a hell of a lot of work to maintain16:22
Kiall:)16:22
ttxso we'd switch to after-the-fact accounting, which is much easier16:22
ttxdoesn't remove the need to keep BPs up to date...16:22
ttxbut we don't actually care about deferring and all16:22
ttxwhich currently is the main reason for these syncs16:23
ttxKiall: other questions ?16:23
KiallNo - Thats it :)16:23
ttxKiall: ok, talk to you in two weeks :)16:23
ttxflaper87: you're on16:23
KiallEnjoy the "week off" ;)16:23
flaper87just in time16:23
ttx#topic Zaqar16:23
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/zaqar/+milestone/kilo-316:24
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flaper87so, lots of reviews to do16:24
ttxLooks good, except that https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zaqar/+spec/ops-stats16:24
ttx(with no assignee or status16:24
flaper87yeah, That one I still have to evaluat the impact and decided on whether it's worth having it for K16:24
flaper87It's likely going to be pushed to L16:25
ttxack16:25
flaper87evaluate*16:25
ttxI assume you've read what I told Kiall and redrobot above16:25
flaper87yup :)16:25
ttx(and we'll skip next week 1:1)16:25
* flaper87 was reading other's meetings16:25
ttxother questions ?16:25
* flaper87 is a natural stalker16:25
flaper87nope, I'm good16:26
ttxthat's why you like public channels so much , heh16:26
flaper87hahahaha16:26
flaper87damn, you got me16:26
ttxok then, have a good (two) weeks16:26
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ttx#endmeeting16:32
openstackMeeting ended Thu Feb 12 16:32:27 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:32
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