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| ttx | asalkeld: I'll be 5 min late | 09:00 |
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| asalkeld | np | 09:00 |
| ttx | sorry bout that | 09:06 |
| ttx | #startmeeting ptl_sync | 09:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 3 09:06:31 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:06 |
| ttx | #topic Heat | 09:06 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ptl_sync' | 09:06 |
| ttx | asalkeld: o/ | 09:06 |
| asalkeld | hi | 09:06 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/kilo-2 | 09:07 |
| asalkeld | i think it's in ok shape | 09:07 |
| asalkeld | there are 2 bugs and 2 bps soon to go in | 09:07 |
| ttx | Still have 2 open BPs and 2 open bugs, are we trying to get those in before the tag ? | 09:07 |
| asalkeld | ttx, just to be clear, the tag is in 2 days? | 09:07 |
| asalkeld | on the 5th | 09:07 |
| ttx | The tag window is Tuesday-Thursday | 09:08 |
| ttx | so anytime during the window is fine | 09:08 |
| * ttx checks the Bp<->review mapping | 09:08 | |
| asalkeld | my wed-frid | 09:08 |
| asalkeld | ttx, i'll keep that in mind | 09:08 |
| ttx | decouple-nested is waiting on the 3 at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/decouple-nested,n,z ? | 09:08 |
| asalkeld | all those *should* be ok | 09:08 |
| asalkeld | ttx, yeah i have taken that one over | 09:09 |
| ttx | stack-breakpoint waiting on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146123/ | 09:09 |
| asalkeld | if it can't make it, i'll move to k3 | 09:09 |
| asalkeld | breakpoint should be fine | 09:09 |
| asalkeld | just one patch | 09:09 |
| ttx | bug 1411103 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147463/ | 09:09 |
| ttx | 1406692 | 09:09 |
| ttx | doesn't seem to have areview up yet | 09:10 |
| ttx | is that correct ? | 09:10 |
| asalkeld | but you just point out the review? | 09:10 |
| asalkeld | ooo, different numbre | 09:11 |
| ttx | bug 1406692 | 09:11 |
| asalkeld | we can move that one | 09:11 |
| ttx | ok, moving | 09:11 |
| asalkeld | pushed to k3 | 09:11 |
| ttx | OK, that sounds like a reasonable number of things to wait on | 09:12 |
| asalkeld | cool, i'll try my best to get all that in | 09:12 |
| ttx | I'll track progress against those reviews | 09:12 |
| ttx | and will confirm itr's good to go once they are in | 09:12 |
| asalkeld | thx! | 09:12 |
| ttx | (and ping you if they obviously won't make it during the tag window) | 09:12 |
| ttx | asalkeld: looks good to me... questions on your side ? | 09:13 |
| asalkeld | ttx, when you ideally like to tag | 09:13 |
| asalkeld | so i can gauge when this should be in | 09:13 |
| ttx | I like to tag on my Wednesday morning, your Wednesday evening | 09:13 |
| asalkeld | utc | 09:13 |
| asalkeld | ok | 09:13 |
| ttx | but it's fine to do Thursday morning too | 09:13 |
| asalkeld | that's all godd | 09:13 |
| ttx | I don't like Thursday evening that much | 09:14 |
| ttx | but you should be sleeping then :) | 09:14 |
| asalkeld | lol | 09:14 |
| asalkeld | ok, all good from my end | 09:14 |
| ttx | ok, if you don't have other questions, have a good week! | 09:14 |
| asalkeld | you too | 09:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ttx: hey, sorry for the wait | 09:27 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: o/ | 09:28 |
| ttx | #topic Nova | 09:28 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/kilo-2 | 09:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 09:28 |
| ttx | pretty impressive list of stuff under review here | 09:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its gone a bit mad | 09:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | people actually got their code up for review, which is nice | 09:29 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: what do you expect will happen ? a few of them merge and we defer the others ? | 09:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | I actually expect to defer all the low ones, that have no patches merged yet | 09:30 |
| ttx | Or do you plan to start pushing back to L ? | 09:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 09:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | defer to L for those | 09:30 |
| ttx | Would deferring now help in prioritizing reviews, or not so much ? | 09:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | so, possibly, I was going to check through the list, and see if there are BPs with old −1s on the reviews, etc | 09:31 |
| ttx | I'm a bit concerned with this multi-month feature freeze for non-priority stuff | 09:31 |
| ttx | Historically, feature freeze was relatively well accepted because it's onlt a couple weeks before we open the next dev branch | 09:31 |
| ttx | Will be a harder sell if it's a couple months away | 09:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | yes, its basically us trying to do the slots things, just only for one sprint | 09:32 |
| ttx | people with those patches will have to rebase against master and keep them in the fridge | 09:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | just we don't see how we can get the priority stuff merged otherwise | 09:32 |
| ttx | right, not saying you shouldn't do it | 09:33 |
| ttx | just wondering how well that would be accepted, given how many patches fall into that group | 09:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I mean, lets be honest, its a massive experiment | 09:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | people seemed to agree on the priorities as being important, and bug fixes | 09:33 |
| ttx | A number of them have been asking for exceptions right | 09:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | yes, but those where mostly the specs we didn't get merged | 09:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | at least up until this point | 09:34 |
| ttx | hmm, ok | 09:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its madness, we have way more code than we can review at this point, this is our attempt at being honest and telling people its no going to happen | 09:35 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: so I guess we should wait as much as we can before we tag | 09:35 |
| ttx | whatever gets in is in | 09:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | yes, thats fair | 09:35 |
| ttx | how about we have this same discussion on Thursday and see if there is value in waiting a feqw more hours ? | 09:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think, the stuff thats almost, but not quite in, I might let slide into the first week of kilo-3, without too much process, but lets see how it looks I guess | 09:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am good with that, I mean, maybe we catch up tomorrow morning, so see how the burn down is looking? | 09:36 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: sounds good | 09:36 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: I have been discussing recently the value of milestone targeting... It's a lot of effort to maintain and we consistently miss our predictions | 09:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mean, we spoke about actually aiming for zero exceptions this time, possibly over-roating though | 09:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | yes, that came up at the midcycle actually | 09:37 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: we could technically take the linux approach and not even try to predict. Just collect whatever is landed | 09:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | can't say we had any great ideas, yeah, thats the only one that came up | 09:37 |
| ttx | The milestone is still useful as a reference date, the tag is still useful as a way to exercise the machinery | 09:38 |
| ttx | but as a promise, it's not that great | 09:38 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: and not having to maintain it would free us to do more useful things | 09:39 |
| ttx | like focus on priority tasks | 09:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | very true, I am keen on the idea | 09:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | I guess we have to try it to know how it looks | 09:39 |
| ttx | I will think about it a bit more... and probably start a thread on the ML | 09:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | we should be able to have tooling to automatically fill in the milestone after we tag, I guess | 09:39 |
| ttx | I know some projects are attached to producing meaningful milestones | 09:40 |
| ttx | the milestone in LP always had two meanings | 09:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: appreciated, it should make things more scalable | 09:40 |
| ttx | the promise and the actual delivery | 09:40 |
| ttx | using the same damn field | 09:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, thats true | 09:40 |
| ttx | which causes all sort of pain | 09:40 |
| ttx | The delivery is still very useful | 09:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, we sorta stopped bothering with the promise, mostly, without telling people | 09:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, if we can automate that, then awesome :) | 09:41 |
| ttx | collecting what was merged when we tag and add it as a delivery milestone to the bug, very good | 09:41 |
| ttx | using a single list of things to track, not so good | 09:41 |
| ttx | that tension shows in how we use those milestone pages | 09:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 09:42 |
| ttx | sometimes those are targets of opprtunity, sometimes those are milestone tag blockers | 09:42 |
| ttx | and then suddenly we purge it and it becomes the list of stuff actually landed | 09:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | priority is better for, this should go in first, then defer it if its too late for this release | 09:42 |
| ttx | (fwiw in storyboard we don't really replicate the concept of "promised milestone") | 09:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, thats a good way of talking about the problem, not thought about it as clearly as that before | 09:43 |
| ttx | (and you should be able to use multiple "priority lists" to track random stuff) | 09:43 |
| ttx | one could be milestone blockers, another could be targets of opportunity etc) | 09:43 |
| ttx | Targeting tasks against a future milestone is still useful for RC tracking | 09:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats true | 09:44 |
| ttx | but that's actaully the exception rather than the rule | 09:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 09:44 |
| ttx | anyway, random thoughts | 09:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mean the discussion we had before was interesting | 09:44 |
| ttx | just wanted to check where you stood on that | 09:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | feature freeze time, we are really good at merging things | 09:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | because we have a smaller list to focus on | 09:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | so keeping that, maybe using priorities, sounds good | 09:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | ignoring milestones, for want of a better word, should free up more time to set priorities better, etc | 09:45 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: identifying those BPs which are 99% there could be a useful way to prioritize reviews | 09:45 |
| ttx | (for k2) | 09:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think I am going to go do that | 09:46 |
| ttx | because those 99% there won't take a two-months wait that gracefully | 09:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | this stuff has some +2s, lets finish it off, etc | 09:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | agreed | 09:46 |
| ttx | even if it's Low. | 09:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that makes them more angry, honestly | 09:47 |
| ttx | so yes, identifying a few things that could easily make it with some focus could help | 09:47 |
| ttx | alright, I'll talk to you later this week as we approach the fatidic tag | 09:47 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: did you have any question ? | 09:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: I am good, thanks for your help | 09:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | looking forward to the thoughts on milestones | 09:49 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: ack, have a good day! | 09:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | any you! | 09:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | ops | 09:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | and you! | 09:50 |
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| ttx | eglynn: around? | 13:00 |
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| eglynn | ttx: hey | 13:00 |
| ttx | #topic Ceilometer | 13:00 |
| ttx | eglynn: hi! | 13:00 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/kilo-2 | 13:01 |
| eglynn | #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/kilo-2 | 13:01 |
| ttx | I see 4 BPs and one bug. | 13:01 |
| eglynn | I've already bumped the BP that won't make it | 13:01 |
| ttx | All things you'd like to wait on before we tag ? | 13:01 |
| eglynn | the others are likely to hand later today or early tmrw | 13:01 |
| eglynn | *land | 13:01 |
| ttx | checking blocking reviews | 13:01 |
| eglynn | just minor nits in tests etc. | 13:02 |
| ttx | disk-info-meters pending on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145819/ | 13:02 |
| eglynn | yeap, that's the only one I'm slightly concerned about | 13:02 |
| ttx | hyper-v-disk-latency-metrics pending on .. ? all merged? | 13:02 |
| eglynn | a-ha yes, updating status | 13:03 |
| ttx | declarative-http-tests pending on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146187/ | 13:03 |
| eglynn | yep, cdent is working on the last test nit as we speak | 13:03 |
| ttx | elasticsearch-driver pending on ... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137131/ ? | 13:04 |
| eglynn | yep gordc will be online soon to get that over the line today | 13:04 |
| ttx | can't find the change in Gerrit for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1403787 | 13:04 |
| eglynn | darn, I mean to bump that | 13:05 |
| ttx | Also ceilometermiddleware is marked completed but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151744/ is still in flight | 13:05 |
| eglynn | done now | 13:05 |
| ttx | should it be reverted to NeedsCodeReview? | 13:06 |
| eglynn | yeap, we were looking that just now ... I've +A'd the patch | 13:07 |
| ttx | ok, let's mark it NeedsCodeReview until patch makes it ? | 13:07 |
| eglynn | ok, done | 13:08 |
| ttx | OK, so I'll keep track of those last things and ping you when I think we can tag. If they don't burn down in time, I'll ping you to remove blockers | 13:08 |
| eglynn | sounds like a plan | 13:08 |
| ttx | or just contact me when the page is all set :) | 13:08 |
| eglynn | cool, will do | 13:08 |
| ttx | alright. Questions on your side ? | 13:09 |
| eglynn | nope | 13:09 |
| ttx | alrighy then | 13:09 |
| ttx | +t | 13:09 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: you around? | 13:09 |
| eglynn | thank you for your time! | 13:09 |
| ttx | eglynn: have a good week | 13:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, hello! | 13:09 |
| ttx | #topic Sahara | 13:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://launchpad.net/sahara/+milestone/kilo-2 | 13:09 |
| ttx | 2 BPs left | 13:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | we have two blueprints on the go | 13:10 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | edp-spark-swift-integration waits for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146659/ (-1’d for nit thing, will be updated and re-approved today) | 13:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and indirect-vm-access with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133590/ in the gate | 13:10 |
| ttx | sounds good | 13:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, should be delivered before tomorrow | 13:11 |
| ttx | heh, you pmake my job easy I see | 13:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | hope so :) | 13:11 |
| ttx | note that we'll discuss reviews of Horizon panels at the cross-project meeting later | 13:11 |
| ttx | you might want to stay around | 13:11 |
| ttx | otherwise I'll bring the topic up anyway | 13:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | yup, I remember | 13:12 |
| ttx | No other questions | 13:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I don't have a story for it, just want to discuss what's the best approach for doing it | 13:12 |
| ttx | it's a good discussion to have | 13:12 |
| ttx | it won't get any better i the future | 13:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'm always on cross-project meetings, not aleays active due to the very late time :( | 13:12 |
| ttx | yep | 13:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | nothing more from my side too | 13:13 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: have a good day then! | 13:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, thanks | 13:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, you too | 13:13 |
| ttx | dhellmann: ready when you are | 13:13 |
| dhellmann | ttx: hi! | 13:13 |
| ttx | #topic Oslo | 13:13 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/kilo-2 | 13:14 |
| ttx | Looks all set for oslo-incubator tagging | 13:14 |
| dhellmann | yep, I think we're clear | 13:14 |
| ttx | dhellmann: anything we should wait on before we tag the incubator with the kilo-2 tag ? | 13:14 |
| ttx | usually we do it late, we can as well do it early | 13:14 |
| ttx | I think | 13:14 |
| * dhellmann checks the queue quickly | 13:14 | |
| dhellmann | nothing in the queue looks like it's critical, so we could go ahead | 13:15 |
| ttx | ok, will do just after our discussion | 13:16 |
| ttx | Quick glance at https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/next-kilo | 13:16 |
| ttx | any other library release this week? | 13:16 |
| dhellmann | no, we decided to hold off until next week because of the deadline | 13:16 |
| dhellmann | we'll have several on monday morning | 13:16 |
| ttx | yes, it's not a week where breakage is appreciated | 13:16 |
| dhellmann | utils, test, and db at least next week | 13:16 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I thought josh was going to wait to do the taskflow release, too -- bad communication there on my part | 13:17 |
| ttx | "I don't always break OpenSTack by releasing an Oslo library, but when I do, I do it after the milestone week" | 13:17 |
| dhellmann | no that's a t-shirt slogan | 13:17 |
| dhellmann | *now | 13:17 |
| ttx | OK, anything more before I start running script | 13:18 |
| ttx | ? | 13:18 |
| dhellmann | nothing to report, and nothing for the meeting agenda | 13:18 |
| ttx | alright then, tag on its way. | 13:18 |
| * dhellmann ducks | 13:19 | |
| ttx | heh, you aren't the one running the experimental neutron-aaS-friends-supporting branch of release-tools now | 13:20 |
| ttx | ok done | 13:21 |
| ttx | dhellmann: It's so awesome to see so little work being done in the incubator those days :) | 13:21 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: yeah, that'll change again next cycle when we shift back into "acquisition" mode, but I want us to set a goal of 1-2 cycles for incubation before graduation | 13:35 |
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| mestery | ttx: I'm ready whenever you're ready. | 14:54 |
| ttx | mestery: ok, let's do this | 14:57 |
| ttx | #topic Neutron | 14:57 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/kilo-2 | 14:58 |
| ttx | 7 Bps still up | 14:58 |
| ttx | and 18 bugs | 14:58 |
| mestery | ttx: Ack, all those BPs have a shot still. | 14:58 |
| mestery | They have patches in flight. | 14:58 |
| ttx | Should I treat any of those bugs as a milestone blocker ? | 14:58 |
| mestery | But I've told people that if they aren't in the merge queue by Wednesday morning they're out. | 14:58 |
| ttx | or just defer whatever doesn't make it ? | 14:58 |
| mestery | I don't think any are blockers at this point. | 14:59 |
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| ttx | ok, so let's see if I can map those BPs to reviews | 14:59 |
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| ttx | refactor-iptables-firewall-driver > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152512/ says it partially implements -- so are more patches coming ? | 14:59 |
| * mestery looks | 15:00 | |
| mestery | That's the last patch for that BP. | 15:00 |
| mestery | I'm confirming with ajo now, but that's what he told me Friday. | 15:01 |
| ttx | lbaas-api-and-objmodel-improvement > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152171/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144834/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144832/ | 15:01 |
| mestery | Just got confirmation on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152512/, it closed out refactor-iptables-firewall-driver | 15:01 |
| mestery | *closes | 15:01 |
| mestery | ttx: The LBaaS folks are having a sprint this week, I expect a lot of merges from them today/tomorrow. | 15:01 |
| mestery | dougwig has indicated that LBaaS V2 BP will be done before Kilo-2, barring merge issues | 15:01 |
| ttx | rootwrap-daemon-mode > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84667/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82787/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145829/ | 15:02 |
| ttx | looks a bit far away | 15:02 |
| mestery | ttx: If otherwiseguy doesn't propose a new patch by this morning, I'll move it out. | 15:02 |
| ttx | extra-dhcp-opts-ipv4-ipv6 > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136713/ | 15:03 |
| ttx | allow-mac-to-be-updated > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112129/ | 15:03 |
| mestery | This one should merge today | 15:03 |
| ttx | yes those two are looking good | 15:04 |
| mestery | ++ | 15:04 |
| ttx | ofagent-flow-based-tunneling > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130677/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130676/ | 15:04 |
| mestery | That one is a little further away than the prior too, but still close | 15:04 |
| ttx | rpc-docs-and-namespaces > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149735/ | 15:05 |
| ttx | OK, if that is correct I can track completion and help updating BP status | 15:05 |
| mestery | I have an ask out to russellb on the status there, I suspect it may not be complete, but there's a lot of patches so it's hard to know :) | 15:05 |
| mestery | Thanks ttx! | 15:05 |
| ttx | sanity-checking the repos to see if tarballs are complete | 15:06 |
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| mestery | cool | 15:06 |
| ttx | takes a bit of time | 15:06 |
| ttx | while I wait, other questions ? | 15:07 |
| mestery | I'm going to spend some time post our 1:1 going through the remaining bugs that are open yet | 15:07 |
| mestery | I'll have those cleaned up this morning with only ones realistically having a chance at Kilo-2 targeted | 15:07 |
| ttx | I'll ping you if it seems headed to the wall or if it looks ready | 15:07 |
| mestery | One more thing | 15:07 |
| mestery | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OQN0VlKzKC1gYlxgalQXKDTGGWogWFRtD3S5OpepsX4/edit?pli=1#gid=0 | 15:07 |
| mestery | That's the tracking page for our plugin decomposition status | 15:07 |
| mestery | It's looking quite good actually! | 15:07 |
| ttx | You can ping me if it looks ready from where you're standing | 15:08 |
| mestery | We'll keep that updated as we go. | 15:08 |
| mestery | ttx: Ack | 15:08 |
| ttx | mestery: so those repos contains each vendor plugin | 15:08 |
| ttx | ? | 15:08 |
| mestery | Correct | 15:09 |
| mestery | The backend logic for the plugin, a thin shim is still in the neutron tree. | 15:09 |
| ttx | ok | 15:09 |
| mestery | The process has gone quite smooth actually, kudos to armax for leading this | 15:09 |
| ttx | ok, so we'll be in touch for the tag(s) | 15:09 |
| mestery | Thanks ttx! | 15:10 |
| ttx | I evolved the release scripts, they should support uploading neutron-*aas to same LP page now | 15:10 |
| ttx | fingers crossed | 15:10 |
| mestery | ++, awesome! | 15:10 |
| mestery | ;) | 15:10 |
| ttx | mestery: alright, have a nice day! | 15:10 |
| mestery | ttx: Thank you! You have a great evening! | 15:10 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: ready when you are | 15:11 |
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| nikhil_k | ttx: o/ | 15:20 |
| ttx | #topic Glance | 15:21 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/kilo-2 | 15:21 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: o/ | 15:21 |
| ttx | I see 4 Bps still in progress | 15:21 |
| ttx | All likely to make it in the coming days ? | 15:21 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: so, there was some confusion on some of them | 15:21 |
| nikhil_k | a couple of them are ready | 15:21 |
| nikhil_k | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/replace-snet-config-with-endpoint-config and | 15:22 |
| nikhil_k | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/software-metadefs | 15:22 |
| * ttx looks at those | 15:22 | |
| nikhil_k | this is being tested and needs a small change | 15:22 |
| nikhil_k | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/taskflow-integration | 15:22 |
| nikhil_k | this looks unlikely https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/swift-retry-wait | 15:22 |
| ttx | replace-snet-config-with-endpoint-config pending on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150144/ IIUC | 15:22 |
| ttx | software-metadefs pending on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148007/ | 15:23 |
| ttx | taskflow-integration... | 15:23 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: yeah, I heard back just gunna review it | 15:23 |
| nikhil_k | about replace-snet-config | 15:23 |
| ttx | is it just https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85211/ ? | 15:23 |
| nikhil_k | yes | 15:23 |
| ttx | ok | 15:24 |
| ttx | swift-retry-wait... | 15:24 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: the main blocker is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1412802 | 15:24 |
| * nikhil_k waits | 15:24 | |
| ttx | yeah, it looks way farther away, better concentrate on the other 3 | 15:24 |
| ttx | how about we move this one to k3 already, to signal reviewers should focus on the other 3 ? | 15:24 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: that sounds fine | 15:25 |
| ttx | ok, doing it now | 15:25 |
| ttx | About the bugs, anything we should block the milestone on ? | 15:25 |
| ttx | Or I should just defer whichever are not merged when the BPs are done ? | 15:26 |
| nikhil_k | the main blocker is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1412802 | 15:26 |
| ttx | right | 15:26 |
| ttx | we should keep this one as blocker | 15:26 |
| nikhil_k | and may be we should let this one slide https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1221274 | 15:26 |
| ttx | feels featury rather than buggy too | 15:27 |
| ttx | How about I mogve out of the milestone all but the critical one ? | 15:27 |
| ttx | If those get merged they will be reincluded anyway | 15:27 |
| nikhil_k | yeah, feature related is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145544/6 | 15:27 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: sure, if you have to. I was going to suggest to wait until tomorrow however, either way is fine | 15:28 |
| nikhil_k | I think focusing on k3 and wrapping stuff up should like a better scenario | 15:28 |
| nikhil_k | s/should/sounds/ | 15:28 |
| ttx | I prefer to use the k2 list as the blocker list at this point | 15:29 |
| nikhil_k | ok, sure | 15:29 |
| ttx | OK, it's clean now | 15:29 |
| nikhil_k | :) | 15:29 |
| nikhil_k | Appreciate it. | 15:30 |
| ttx | I'll track those in the coming days and ping when if we won't hit the window or if all seem ready | 15:30 |
| ttx | ping me the other way around if you feel it's good to go too | 15:30 |
| nikhil_k | Sure thing | 15:30 |
| ttx | Questions ? | 15:30 |
| nikhil_k | Nothing for now :) | 15:30 |
| ttx | alright, you know where to find me | 15:30 |
| ttx | Have a good day | 15:30 |
| nikhil_k | Have a good one, yourself! | 15:30 |
| ttx | thingee: ready when you are | 15:31 |
| thingee | ttx: hi! | 15:31 |
| ttx | #topic Cinder | 15:31 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/kilo-2 | 15:31 |
| ttx | I see 5 open BPs in my crystal ball | 15:31 |
| ttx | All still likely to make it ? | 15:32 |
| thingee | I moved out a lot of stuff that have little to no consensus. If anything is going to make it, it's these. | 15:32 |
| ttx | OK, let's map them to the corresponding reviews then | 15:32 |
| ttx | over-subscription-in-thin-provisioning seems to be waiting on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142171/ | 15:33 |
| ttx | remotefs-share-cfg-improvements on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149765/ | 15:33 |
| ttx | database-purge on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146766/ | 15:34 |
| thingee | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-k2-priorities | 15:34 |
| ttx | chiscsi-iscsi-helper > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147758/ | 15:34 |
| ttx | adding them for the log | 15:34 |
| ttx | nfs-manage-unmanage > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138125/ | 15:35 |
| ttx | All sounds doable | 15:35 |
| ttx | Theer are also 3 bugs. Are those blockers of just targets of opprtunity that I can defer to k3 if they miss ? | 15:35 |
| thingee | yes | 15:36 |
| ttx | (the latter) | 15:36 |
| thingee | yea latter | 15:36 |
| thingee | sorry | 15:36 |
| ttx | Alright, I'm all clear | 15:37 |
| thingee | last thing | 15:37 |
| thingee | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-January/055719.html | 15:37 |
| ttx | I'll track those | 15:37 |
| thingee | sorry for switching this on you | 15:37 |
| ttx | #info Cidner Blueprint/Spec approval deadline - February 15th | 15:37 |
| thingee | not sure if it's doable for something cross project next time on deadlines? Or a table somewhere? I can't imagine this is easy for contributors to keep track of | 15:37 |
| ttx | #info Cinder Code freeze for all features - March 10th | 15:38 |
| ttx | I posted most of them on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 15:38 |
| thingee | you're way ahead of me, thanks :) | 15:38 |
| ttx | but I need to adjust dates it seems | 15:38 |
| thingee | that's all for me | 15:39 |
| ttx | thingee: code freeze for all features -- what does that mean | 15:39 |
| ttx | features must be proposed ? | 15:39 |
| ttx | (as in, in code review ? | 15:40 |
| ttx | or merged ?) | 15:40 |
| thingee | no accepting anymore code unless they're bug fixes | 15:40 |
| thingee | not* | 15:40 |
| ttx | so you're basically moving Feature Freeze up 9 days | 15:40 |
| ttx | (normally on March 19th) | 15:40 |
| thingee | correct | 15:41 |
| ttx | OK, I'll add that to page | 15:41 |
| ttx | now | 15:41 |
| ttx | thingee: done | 15:43 |
| thingee | ttx: thank you | 15:43 |
| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 15:43 |
| ttx | We'll probably evolve the format of that | 15:43 |
| ttx | doesn't scale that beautifully | 15:43 |
| ttx | david-lyle: you around ? | 15:44 |
| david-lyle | ttx: here | 15:44 |
| ttx | thingee: thx! | 15:44 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon | 15:44 |
| ttx | Sorry for the lateness | 15:44 |
| david-lyle | no worries | 15:44 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/kilo-2 | 15:44 |
| ttx | 5 Bps up | 15:44 |
| ttx | All still in the race to make the window ? | 15:44 |
| david-lyle | top one will miss, just about to move | 15:45 |
| ttx | was wondering if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148031/ didn't complete it | 15:45 |
| ttx | I guess not :) | 15:45 |
| david-lyle | no, that's just a part of it | 15:46 |
| ttx | heat-topology-display-improvement pending on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110888/ | 15:46 |
| david-lyle | going to ping reviewers on that one | 15:46 |
| ttx | migrate-all-instances-from-hosts-in-maintenance-mode on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109586/ | 15:46 |
| david-lyle | smaller change, been sitting a while | 15:46 |
| ttx | add-manage-unmanage-volume > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129652/ | 15:47 |
| ttx | settings-migration-script > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81255/ | 15:47 |
| ttx | view-volume-encryption-metadata > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134341/ | 15:47 |
| ttx | All seem in good shape | 15:47 |
| david-lyle | most of those look in really good shape, just need to get cores looking at them | 15:47 |
| ttx | yes | 15:48 |
| david-lyle | 2 of those I have on my list for after this | 15:48 |
| ttx | Lots of bugs in the buglist, anything critical or can I just move the ones which don't make it to k3 ? | 15:48 |
| david-lyle | all that don't land can move | 15:48 |
| david-lyle | I already moved anything that wasn't in progress | 15:48 |
| ttx | OK, sound all good | 15:48 |
| ttx | Note that we'll discuss project-specific panels reviews at the cross-project meeting today | 15:49 |
| ttx | if you can attend | 15:49 |
| david-lyle | sure | 15:49 |
| ttx | in particular it's interesting to see how that would scale in a bigger tent | 15:49 |
| david-lyle | short answer, I don't think it does | 15:50 |
| david-lyle | not with the current model at least | 15:50 |
| ttx | agree, which is why we need to discuss/brainstorm how to solve that | 15:50 |
| ttx | anyway, talk about that later | 15:50 |
| david-lyle | sure | 15:50 |
| ttx | questions on your side ? | 15:50 |
| david-lyle | my only concern is I haven't seen anything new for ironic | 15:51 |
| david-lyle | for horizon | 15:51 |
| ttx | hmm, we could talk about it as part of that meeting topic | 15:51 |
| david-lyle | tuskar-ui has some ironic support that we can pull in, but that's not the full story | 15:51 |
| david-lyle | I can ping devananda directly as well | 15:51 |
| david-lyle | was just looking through the bps today and didn't see anything | 15:52 |
| devananda | o/ | 15:52 |
| ttx | devananda: oh right, you're in my timezone | 15:52 |
| devananda | ttx: yah | 15:52 |
| david-lyle | devananda: know of any efforts for ironic support in horizon for kilo? | 15:52 |
| ttx | devananda: can you still make the regular 1:1 time ? | 15:52 |
| devananda | nope | 15:52 |
| david-lyle | we have tuskar-ui support, but that's only a fraction of the real use cases I believe | 15:53 |
| david-lyle | if you don't know of any efforts, I'll try to motivate someone | 15:53 |
| ttx | david-lyle: ok, if no other issues to report, ttyl | 15:53 |
| devananda | I've had a few conversations with folks about doing it, but have not seen anything tangible yet | 15:53 |
| david-lyle | thanks ttx | 15:54 |
| david-lyle | devananda: let me know if any materialize, otherwise, I'll try to take a look | 15:54 |
| david-lyle | would like to have support in kilo | 15:55 |
| SlickNik | ttx: hi — got a minute? | 16:12 |
| ttx | on a call | 16:12 |
| SlickNik | okay, can wait. | 16:14 |
| ttx | SlickNik: done | 16:17 |
| ttx | want to sync now ? | 16:18 |
| SlickNik | ttx: yes, please — since we will be busy with the mid cycle in a few. | 16:19 |
| ttx | alright | 16:19 |
| ttx | #topic Trove | 16:19 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/kilo-2 | 16:19 |
| ttx | That looks pretty complete from where I stand | 16:19 |
| SlickNik | Yes, have it pretty complete for kilo-2. | 16:19 |
| ttx | Want to wait a bit more to see if anything else makes it ? | 16:19 |
| ttx | Or shall I tag now ? | 16:19 |
| SlickNik | Feel free to tag now — most folks are at the mid-cycle and there's no outstanding blockers. | 16:20 |
| SlickNik | Hash: 4d31433b1e67acbba1932ba1b032fe55f2dfd00d | 16:20 |
| ttx | OK, will do in a few | 16:20 |
| ttx | and ping you when done | 16:20 |
| ttx | I don't have more questions then ;) | 16:21 |
| SlickNik | Thanks, tag at your convenience! | 16:21 |
| SlickNik | I'll get back to prepp'ing for the mid-cycle then. | 16:21 |
| SlickNik | Catch you later. | 16:21 |
| ttx | SlickNik: all set at https://launchpad.net/trove/kilo/kilo-2 | 16:29 |
| ttx | devananda: want to run your sync now ? | 16:29 |
| devananda | ttx: nope. having a delightful argument with jaypipes about whether or not Nova should have any support for Ironic | 16:35 |
| ttx | ah :) | 16:36 |
| devananda | ttx: tldr; the midcyucle is going on, we're updating LP as we land things, and I'll send you a SHA at some point | 16:36 |
| devananda | ttx: and if not, you're free to tag on thursday :) | 16:36 |
| ttx | ok, let's skip the regular time too then | 16:37 |
| ttx | notmyname: around ? Nothing special to cover, so we can skip | 16:53 |
| notmyname | ttx: I'm here | 16:53 |
| ttx | #topic Swift | 16:53 |
| ttx | #info 2.2.2 released | 16:53 |
| notmyname | 2.2.2 was released yesterday | 16:53 |
| notmyname | thanks | 16:53 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/swift/kilo/2.2.2 | 16:53 |
| notmyname | #info next week is the swift midcycle/hackathon | 16:54 |
| ttx | notmyname: where is that ? | 16:54 |
| notmyname | at the swiftstack office in san francisco | 16:54 |
| ttx | You might want to add it to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints | 16:54 |
| notmyname | should be about 30 people (from at least 5 countries) | 16:54 |
| ttx | (or do it next time) | 16:54 |
| * notmyname didn't know that page existed | 16:54 | |
| ttx | which is why I advocate its use :) | 16:55 |
| ttx | not very successful at that | 16:55 |
| ttx | but some people have been complaining that midcycle things suck because nobody knows they happen | 16:55 |
| ttx | and that was the answer we gavce the board | 16:55 |
| ttx | I'd argue the people who need to know know | 16:56 |
| ttx | but then that feels a bit elitist | 16:56 |
| ttx | notmyname: any other thing you wanted to cover ? | 16:57 |
| notmyname | nope. I'm good | 16:58 |
| ttx | notmyname: have a good week | 16:58 |
| ttx | morganfainberg: ready when you are | 16:58 |
| morganfainberg | O/ | 17:02 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone | 17:02 |
| morganfainberg | Sorry was being chased | 17:02 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/kilo-2 | 17:02 |
| morganfainberg | By people in irc ;) | 17:02 |
| ttx | I'm chased too, so don't worry if I go mute :) | 17:03 |
| morganfainberg | Will be pairing that down today to anything that is not in flight | 17:03 |
| morganfainberg | Or merged | 17:03 |
| ttx | OK, today :) | 17:03 |
| morganfainberg | Bugs might increase if a fix has been committed. | 17:03 |
| ttx | just keep blockers in | 17:03 |
| morganfainberg | The federation one might get one more patch. | 17:03 |
| ttx | I mean, keep only blockers in | 17:03 |
| morganfainberg | Bugs won't be reduced at this point I think. All should have code in flight. | 17:04 |
| morganfainberg | Federation Bp that is. We are looking at the ietf don't use x prefixed headers | 17:04 |
| ttx | OK, I might ping you when you are done if I spot a dark/incoherent area | 17:05 |
| morganfainberg | Meaning a rename of 2 headers or elimination of it. | 17:05 |
| ttx | ping me when you're done cleaning up | 17:05 |
| morganfainberg | Sounds good. Will ping. | 17:05 |
| morganfainberg | 2 new headers that is* | 17:05 |
| morganfainberg | But I spent a chunk of time last night getting things pushed through. | 17:05 |
| ttx | ok | 17:06 |
| morganfainberg | Keystone client will be released on Monday same as middleware to prevent accidentally breaking gate this week for you. | 17:06 |
| morganfainberg | ;) | 17:06 |
| ttx | awesome! | 17:06 |
| morganfainberg | Not that I expect to break gate. But... | 17:06 |
| ttx | Will track the things you keep in the page and ping you if I think we won't make it, or if we made it :) | 17:06 |
| ttx | morganfainberg: anything else ? | 17:07 |
| morganfainberg | Yep. I hope to have a sha for you today. | 17:07 |
| morganfainberg | Nope that's it. | 17:07 |
| ttx | alrighty, ttyl | 17:07 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 17:07 |
| morganfainberg | At x-project will raise no downgrade spec | 17:07 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 3 17:07:41 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:07 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2015/ptl_sync.2015-02-03-09.06.html | 17:07 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2015/ptl_sync.2015-02-03-09.06.txt | 17:07 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2015/ptl_sync.2015-02-03-09.06.log.html | 17:07 |
| morganfainberg | But that is more open topic stuff. | 17:08 |
| ttx | ack | 17:08 |
| morganfainberg | Not keystone specific. | 17:08 |
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| morganfainberg | ttx: should have the SHA for you [i hope] by 23:59 tonight (pacific time) | 19:54 |
| morganfainberg | so uh... | 19:54 |
| morganfainberg | 0659 UTC | 19:55 |
| ttx | OK, can tag around one hour later when I start work | 19:56 |
| morganfainberg | down tot he last couple things gating but doing a once-over on new bugs to make sure nothing major has been identified today | 19:59 |
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