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| ttx | asalkeld: o/ | 09:02 |
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| asalkeld | ttx: hi | 09:02 |
| ttx | #startmeeting ptl_sync | 09:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 6 09:02:56 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:02 |
| ttx | #topic Heat | 09:03 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ptl_sync' | 09:03 |
| asalkeld | happy holidays | 09:03 |
| ttx | and happy new year! | 09:03 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/kilo-2 | 09:03 |
| asalkeld | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1401317 - is a dup | 09:03 |
| asalkeld | we just found that out | 09:04 |
| ttx | I see only 4 blueprints there -- expecting more specs to be approved ? | 09:04 |
| asalkeld | ttx: i well expect | 09:04 |
| asalkeld | i think i need to do some admin | 09:04 |
| asalkeld | make sure approved ones have the right settings | 09:05 |
| asalkeld | been caught out by ttx's sharp eye | 09:05 |
| ttx | yes, just add more BPs to match the work being done | 09:05 |
| asalkeld | ok, will do | 09:06 |
| ttx | less than one month to k2 :) | 09:06 |
| asalkeld | yikes already | 09:06 |
| asalkeld | pesky holidays | 09:06 |
| ttx | so ideally the spec view for k2 should be nearly complete by next week | 09:06 |
| asalkeld | ok, I'll sort that out | 09:07 |
| ttx | We'll discuss log guidelines at the cross-project meeting tomorrow | 09:08 |
| ttx | did you have questions ? | 09:08 |
| asalkeld | all good from my side | 09:08 |
| ttx | alright then, have a good catch-up week | 09:08 |
| asalkeld | thx | 09:09 |
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| ttx | johnthetubaguy: o/ | 09:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: hi | 09:19 |
| ttx | #topic Nova | 09:19 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: did you enjoy the holiday season ? | 09:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: I had a good break, hope you had a good one too? | 09:19 |
| ttx | I did! Managed to stay mostly off for 12 days, which is my personal best | 09:20 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/kilo-2 | 09:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | :) | 09:20 |
| ttx | That *is* a busy list | 09:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its pure madness | 09:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | slightly self inflicted, as we said juno-3 is for priority things only | 09:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | (plus usual exception process) | 09:21 |
| ttx | would it make more sense to start asking assignees if they expect their stuff to land in k2 or k3 ? | 09:21 |
| ttx | oh, I se | 09:21 |
| ttx | e | 09:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its an experiment, to have a six week Feature Freeze, as we got good at merging things last time | 09:22 |
| ttx | I'll do a quick tour of the "unknown" status ones to turn them into STarted/Notstarted based on references posted | 09:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: ah, superstar, that would be good | 09:22 |
| ttx | If you could tour the unassigned ones and set a reasonable assignee for them? | 09:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: sure | 09:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | the needs code review stuff is the stuff I think has the most promise, its a shame its all low priority, well, almost | 09:23 |
| ttx | hmm, actually I need to check if the linked stuff is not just the spec | 09:25 |
| * ttx redoes | 09:25 | |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, doh, good point | 09:27 |
| ttx | ok done | 09:29 |
| * ttx crosschecks with http://status.openstack.org/release/ | 09:29 | |
| johnthetubaguy | assignees should be sorted now too | 09:31 |
| ttx | OK looks good | 09:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I need to send out an email about the dates and the current juno-3 plan | 09:32 |
| ttx | Would be good to beat the drum to get the priority items started | 09:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | but we were hoping to have a drivers or nova-meeting first | 09:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | yes, very true | 09:32 |
| ttx | otherwise looks good | 09:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | the cells stuff is queued behind the testing working they are doing, its not forgotten, but yeah, there is stuff to do | 09:33 |
| ttx | on a more personal note, I pushed the discussion on normalization of specs process at a recent cross-project meeting | 09:33 |
| ttx | You can read the logs, but the overall feedback was that there wasn't much to standardize | 09:33 |
| * ttx fetches logs | 09:33 | |
| johnthetubaguy | yes, apologies I can't make those, it just doesn't work with stuff at home | 09:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, thats a perfectly fine outcome | 09:33 |
| ttx | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2014/crossproject.2014-12-09-21.03.log.html#l-12 | 09:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | The biggest changes were probably for us in Nova stopping forcing people to write docs up front | 09:34 |
| ttx | since that was an action item from the "specs" cross-project session, let me know if you think there is more to do at this point | 09:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | I was glad for that change to be made | 09:34 |
| ttx | questions on your side ? | 09:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: I still need to update the wiki page to include nova stuff, sorry, but that looks good I think | 09:35 |
| ttx | ok then | 09:35 |
| ttx | have a good day and a good week! | 09:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | my aim was to make sure we didn't all go crazy, and it seems like we are mostly simlar, so thats cool | 09:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: thanks, and you! | 09:36 |
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| eglynn-office | ttx: knock, knock, ready when you are ... | 13:00 |
| ttx | eglynn: o/ | 13:00 |
| ttx | #topic Ceilometer | 13:00 |
| eglynn-office | #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/kilo-2 | 13:00 |
| ttx | eglynn: how was your holiday break? | 13:00 |
| eglynn-office | good, good, and your's? | 13:00 |
| ttx | was nice, managed to disconnect completely for 10+ days, which was pretty nice | 13:01 |
| eglynn-office | coolness :) | 13:01 |
| ttx | Those 5 "blocked" are pending spec approval, I gather ? | 13:01 |
| eglynn-office | but, back to reality this week ... | 13:01 |
| eglynn-office | yeah I've been populating the k2 roster with BPs blocked on specs reviews | 13:01 |
| ttx | ++ | 13:01 |
| eglynn-office | we need to restart some conversations to get those over the line | 13:01 |
| ttx | indeed, fels like restarting a cold engine | 13:02 |
| eglynn-office | yeap, somewhat of a hiatus around the holidays, loses the momentum | 13:02 |
| ttx | woul dbe good to unblock those asap as k2 hits in less than a month now :) | 13:02 |
| eglynn-office | yeap, k2 first week in Feb | 13:03 |
| ttx | No question on my side | 13:03 |
| eglynn-office | so I'll push to get all those specs reviewslanded this week | 13:03 |
| ttx | we'll discuss currently proposed openstack-specs at the cross-project meeting today | 13:03 |
| eglynn-office | cool | 13:03 |
| eglynn-office | nice | 13:03 |
| ttx | eglynn: have a good restart week | 13:04 |
| eglynn-office | you too, thanks for your time! | 13:04 |
| ttx | dhellmann: we skip sergey today, so ping me when you're ready to go | 13:04 |
| dhellmann | ttx: here | 13:07 |
| ttx | dhellmann: o/ | 13:09 |
| ttx | #topic Oslo | 13:09 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/kilo-2 | 13:09 |
| ttx | and https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/next-kilo | 13:09 |
| dhellmann | we have several to retarget | 13:11 |
| dhellmann | I'll do that for the ones I know about today, and I've asked for updates from everyone by our meeting monday | 13:11 |
| ttx | yeah, probably a good idea to defer early those who won't be done by end of month anyway | 13:11 |
| ttx | are all the unknowns in kilo-2 actually not started ? If yes I can update that for you | 13:12 |
| dhellmann | yes, I think "not started" is more accurate for those | 13:13 |
| ttx | ok, processing | 13:13 |
| ttx | ok, no real question at this point, expecting we'll have a little bit more accurate picture by next week | 13:14 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I'll get this cleaned up by then. I didn't want to push for answers over the holiday | 13:15 |
| ttx | dhellmann: we'll be discussing log guidelines at the cross-project meeting today, to trigger reviews there | 13:15 |
| ttx | because otherwise it won't ever reach critical mass | 13:16 |
| dhellmann | ok, good -- that one has lingered too long | 13:16 |
| ttx | we just need to give a "comment now or forever hold your peace" warning | 13:16 |
| * dhellmann nods | 13:17 | |
| ttx | I don't expect *every* PTL to vote on it anyway, they just need a fair warning | 13:17 |
| ttx | so hopefully that should unclog the pipe there | 13:17 |
| ttx | dhellmann: have a great week! | 13:17 |
| ttx | talk to you later | 13:17 |
| dhellmann | thanks, you too! | 13:17 |
| ttx | mestery: ready when you are | 15:07 |
| mestery | ttx: o/ | 15:07 |
| ttx | #topic Neutron | 15:07 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/kilo-2 | 15:07 |
| ttx | Those "blocked" are, I assume, waiting on spec approval | 15:07 |
| mestery | No, they are approved, but have no code submitted yet. Should I use a different state there? | 15:08 |
| ttx | Otherwise it's neat progress overall | 15:08 |
| ttx | You should use Not started | 15:08 |
| mestery | Ah, right, I'll correct that | 15:08 |
| ttx | or if work started but no code submitted for review yet, you can use started | 15:08 |
| mestery | ack | 15:08 |
| * mestery fixes those up quickly | 15:09 | |
| mestery | Done | 15:10 |
| ttx | even better | 15:11 |
| mestery | Heh | 15:11 |
| ttx | that answers all questions I had | 15:11 |
| mestery | Cool, I've been keeping everyone aware of the deadline for Kilo-2, and how quickly it's coming now that the holidays are done. | 15:11 |
| ttx | We'll mention nova-net to neutron migration in the cross-project meeting today | 15:11 |
| ttx | you might want to be around | 15:11 |
| mestery | I'll be there, but there won't be much to report yet, Oleg is still on holiday in Russia I believe. | 15:12 |
| mestery | May make sense to move that to next week when we'll have more to say there. | 15:12 |
| mestery | But either way, an update is fine | 15:12 |
| ttx | sure, update can be -- waiting on Oleg | 15:12 |
| ttx | just wantr to make sure we don't wait on other resources | 15:12 |
| mestery | lol | 15:12 |
| ttx | like a nova liaison | 15:12 |
| ttx | or support from ops | 15:12 |
| mestery | Good idea | 15:13 |
| mestery | And thanks for helping to get this more visilbility! | 15:13 |
| ttx | questions on your side ? | 15:13 |
| mestery | Nothing at this time, we're just plowing ahead in Kilo-2 now. | 15:14 |
| mestery | Thanks ttx! | 15:14 |
| ttx | alright, talk to you later | 15:14 |
| mestery | have a great week! | 15:14 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: ready when you are | 15:14 |
| nikhil_k | ready | 15:14 |
| ttx | #topic Glance | 15:14 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/kilo-2 | 15:14 |
| ttx | about smooth-deletes-over-time: can I switch it to "not started" ? | 15:15 |
| ttx | or is it started | 15:15 |
| nikhil_k | it's in discussion | 15:15 |
| nikhil_k | the guy has been active and discussing design with us | 15:16 |
| ttx | ok, implementation:not started is probably more accurate then | 15:16 |
| nikhil_k | sure | 15:16 |
| ttx | I like to keep "unknown" for when we have no idea | 15:16 |
| ttx | Do you expect a lot more blueprints to show up in that k2 landscape ? | 15:16 |
| nikhil_k | yes ttx | 15:16 |
| nikhil_k | around 10 or so | 15:17 |
| ttx | What's their current status ? Waiting on spec approval ? | 15:17 |
| nikhil_k | we are keeping a informal freeze 2 weeks after k2 | 15:17 |
| nikhil_k | so, based on who has started working on the the implementation the specs are getting processed | 15:17 |
| nikhil_k | otherwise we have a review queue build up near the close of k2 | 15:18 |
| ttx | hmm, ok... so we should expect more stuff to appear in the coming weeks | 15:18 |
| nikhil_k | right, hope to see at least 4 specs in the next week and half | 15:18 |
| ttx | whenever you're pretty sure something is coming, just add it to the mix. If the spec is not approved yet (but will most likely be) you can add the blueprint with status: Blocked | 15:18 |
| nikhil_k | that sounds good | 15:19 |
| ttx | alright, that's all I had.. questions on your side ? | 15:19 |
| nikhil_k | nothing this week :) | 15:20 |
| ttx | cool then talk to you later | 15:20 |
| nikhil_k | cya | 15:20 |
| nikhil_k | Thanks, bye. | 15:20 |
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| ttx | thingee: o/ | 15:30 |
| thingee | ttx: hi! | 15:30 |
| ttx | #topic Cinder | 15:30 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/kilo-2 | 15:30 |
| ttx | Lots of "unknown" in there, let me see if I can clarify them | 15:31 |
| ttx | chiscsi-iscsi-helper looks Not started | 15:31 |
| ttx | same for assisted-snapshot-improvements | 15:31 |
| thingee | yeah the assignee has been reached out to for an update. I will be removing it this week otherwise | 15:31 |
| ttx | same for all actually | 15:32 |
| ttx | will move them to "Not started" now | 15:32 |
| thingee | eric is part of core. forgot to reach out to him yesterday in irc to update those or a plan to divide up his work to k-3 as well | 15:32 |
| ttx | ok done | 15:33 |
| ttx | Apart from those Not started, the rest looks good | 15:33 |
| thingee | thank you. I'll make sure to do that for future targeted items | 15:33 |
| thingee | ttx: need to verify that incomplete in target bugs too | 15:33 |
| ttx | "unknown" should just mean "I have no idea" | 15:33 |
| ttx | while most of the time you have an idea and it's just the default status that stuck | 15:34 |
| ttx | Do you expect a lot more to be added to the k2 target, or is it mostly complete ? | 15:34 |
| thingee | Yeah I have one more. | 15:35 |
| thingee | but that should be it | 15:35 |
| ttx | ok good | 15:35 |
| ttx | I don't think I have any more questions | 15:35 |
| thingee | I have now targeted the other bp | 15:36 |
| ttx | cross-project meeting today discussing two cross-project specs | 15:36 |
| thingee | yes log standards will be great | 15:36 |
| ttx | have a great week back! | 15:37 |
| thingee | thank you, you too | 15:37 |
| * ttx starts to wonder if we could not replace 1:1 syncs with more asynchronous pings on this channel | 15:37 | |
| ttx | david-lyle: ready when you are | 15:38 |
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| ttx | david-lyle: ready when you are | 15:38 |
| david-lyle | ttx: ready | 15:39 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon | 15:39 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/kilo-2 | 15:40 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/launch-instance-redesign appears to be unassigned | 15:40 |
| ttx | There are 5 blueprints with undefined priority to process, too | 15:41 |
| ttx | david-lyle: Should I just turn all "unknwon" to "not started" ? | 15:41 |
| ttx | unknown* | 15:41 |
| david-lyle | ttx: was walking through them now | 15:41 |
| david-lyle | some already are up for review | 15:42 |
| david-lyle | I'll finish walking through them after this | 15:42 |
| david-lyle | I'll add an owner for the redesign. It's being actively worked by several people | 15:42 |
| ttx | ok, I'll let you clear that all up | 15:43 |
| ttx | that's a lot of blueprints compared to the 9 you got in in k1 | 15:44 |
| ttx | but I guess a lot of those are postponed items | 15:44 |
| david-lyle | yeah, a lot that just missed k-1 | 15:44 |
| ttx | so would be great to get those in early | 15:44 |
| david-lyle | now that people are back from holiday, I expect several to land shortly | 15:45 |
| ttx | That's about all I had -- questions on your side ? | 15:45 |
| david-lyle | no, I'm set | 15:45 |
| ttx | alright then. Talk to you later! | 15:45 |
| david-lyle | see you later | 15:45 |
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| ttx | notmyname: around? | 16:58 |
| ttx | morganfainberg: around? | 17:01 |
| morganfainberg | ttx, o. | 17:01 |
| morganfainberg | erm o/ | 17:01 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone | 17:01 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/kilo-2 | 17:01 |
| morganfainberg | happy new year | 17:01 |
| ttx | 2 unassigned blueprints in there | 17:01 |
| ttx | hope you had a good break | 17:02 |
| morganfainberg | cadf should be assigned, that'll be taken care of today | 17:02 |
| morganfainberg | as will the other one | 17:02 |
| morganfainberg | those need house keeping, but people are working on them. | 17:02 |
| ttx | should I set all 3 "unknown" to "not started", or will you clarify ? | 17:02 |
| morganfainberg | i'll clarify | 17:02 |
| ttx | OK... are you expecting a lot more BPs to show up in the next week(s) ? | 17:03 |
| morganfainberg | yes, i expect more to show up this week | 17:03 |
| morganfainberg | much beyond that i expect k3 to see the last of them appear | 17:03 |
| ttx | ok. Don't hesitate to list the ones you're waiting for spec approval on as "Blocked" | 17:03 |
| morganfainberg | will do. | 17:03 |
| ttx | alright then, no more questions -- did you have any ? | 17:04 |
| morganfainberg | nothing at this time, still getting back into the swing of things post holidays | 17:04 |
| ttx | indeed | 17:04 |
| ttx | ok then, have a good week! | 17:04 |
| ttx | devananda: ready when you are | 17:05 |
| notmyname | ttx: here | 17:05 |
| devananda | ttx: o/ | 17:05 |
| ttx | Let's slip notmyname in those extra 5 min | 17:05 |
| ttx | #topic Swift | 17:05 |
| notmyname | I've been out and I'm catching up | 17:05 |
| notmyname | 4 of us (core devs) are working on EC stuff in the office yesterday and today | 17:06 |
| ttx | I had a good break so things are a bit fuzzy in my mind, but I seem to remember we considered some release for end of january | 17:06 |
| notmyname | otherwise, we've got some patches that will land for a next release...yeah | 17:06 |
| notmyname | I'll let you know when those are good and give you a head's up on timing as soon as I know it | 17:06 |
| ttx | sounds good | 17:06 |
| ttx | I'll be traveling a bit end of Jan / start of Feb | 17:07 |
| ttx | (for work) | 17:07 |
| notmyname | I'll be at LCA next week | 17:07 |
| notmyname | hmm...looks like 6am there now, so I probably can still do the update | 17:07 |
| notmyname | ok | 17:07 |
| ttx | notmyname: we can skip next week, I won't make you get up at 6am for 2 min of update | 17:08 |
| notmyname | heh, ok | 17:08 |
| notmyname | thanks :-) | 17:08 |
| notmyname | I think that's all I've got for this week | 17:08 |
| ttx | or we can ping more randomly. Actually was thinking we could drop the concept of scheduled pings since we don't have that much to communicate | 17:08 |
| ttx | (not just you, everyone) | 17:08 |
| ttx | the only real moment we need sync is around releases/milestones | 17:09 |
| notmyname | I think the scheduled stuff is good. and offers less chance for communication failures later | 17:09 |
| notmyname | I'd prefer to keep them (for everyone) | 17:09 |
| ttx | ok, that's good feedback | 17:09 |
| ttx | have a great week! | 17:09 |
| notmyname | it's at least a time when we both know the other is online | 17:09 |
| notmyname | you too! | 17:09 |
| ttx | devananda: still around? | 17:09 |
| devananda | ttx: yup | 17:11 |
| ttx | #topic Ironic | 17:11 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/kilo-2 | 17:12 |
| devananda | folks are still trickling back in after the holiday break | 17:13 |
| ttx | Will set https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/non-glance-image-refs to "started" since work seems to have happened there | 17:13 |
| devananda | we had our first post-new-year meeting last night, which is also part of our attempt to split meetings across time zones | 17:13 |
| ttx | how did that go ? | 17:13 |
| devananda | so far, I'm not convinced it's going well (the meeting time split, that is) | 17:13 |
| ttx | devananda: yeah, it's a difficult balance. You want to be inclusive, but not split them to the point where they are not reaching critical mass either | 17:14 |
| devananda | 0500 UTC meetings are hard for US west coast people. we lose all the US east. EU don't attend either. | 17:14 |
| devananda | so we get a few sleepy US west, plus china/japan/korea/australia | 17:14 |
| ttx | damn earth for being round | 17:14 |
| devananda | right? | 17:14 |
| devananda | i'm curious if other teams have tried this and gone back to a single time | 17:15 |
| ttx | devananda: that's a good question for the cross-project meeting open discussion today | 17:16 |
| devananda | duly noted | 17:16 |
| devananda | on the topic of mid cycle | 17:16 |
| devananda | i'm trying to make it clear to folks that this is a sprint, not planning -- but it's pretty clear we're going to be split | 17:16 |
| ttx | yeah, felt that way on the ML | 17:17 |
| devananda | I don't have a lot of project updates at this point | 17:18 |
| ttx | devananda: do you expect a lot more specs to make it to the k2 page soon ? | 17:18 |
| devananda | a few, but not many | 17:18 |
| ttx | ok no more questions from me, anything else ? | 17:18 |
| devananda | there are a lot of open specs, but most are blocked by other work and either late additions to k3, or more likely won't make it this cycle | 17:19 |
| devananda | nope | 17:19 |
| devananda | cheers :) | 17:19 |
| ttx | Cool, have a great day and week then | 17:19 |
| ttx | SlickNik: ready when you are | 17:19 |
| SlickNik | o/ | 17:20 |
| ttx | #topic Trove | 17:20 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/kilo-2 | 17:20 |
| ttx | Looks pretty good, most code already in review | 17:20 |
| ttx | expecting a lot more to come ? | 17:20 |
| SlickNik | Chugging along trying to get the BPs for kilo-2 reviewed. | 17:20 |
| SlickNik | Expecting a couple more to show up, but not much else. | 17:20 |
| SlickNik | Should be in during the next week/two as well. | 17:21 |
| ttx | ok, no more questions from me | 17:21 |
| ttx | questions on your side ? | 17:22 |
| SlickNik | Will keep the BPs updated — a couple are close to merging. | 17:22 |
| SlickNik | None so far. | 17:22 |
| ttx | OK then, have a good back-from-holiday week | 17:22 |
| SlickNik | Thanks! | 17:22 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 17:22 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 6 17:22:40 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2015/ptl_sync.2015-01-06-09.02.html | 17:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2015/ptl_sync.2015-01-06-09.02.txt | 17:22 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2015/ptl_sync.2015-01-06-09.02.log.html | 17:22 |
| SlickNik | Thanks ttx. | 17:22 |
| SlickNik | Catch you later. | 17:22 |
| ttx | sure thing! | 17:23 |
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