Tuesday, 2014-09-30

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ttxI'm on it06:46
mikalttx: Greetings, earth human07:55
ttxmikal: hi, creature of the other hemisphere07:57
ttx#startmeeting ptl_sync07:57
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ttx#topic Nova07:57
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/juno-rc107:58
mikalYep07:58
ttxmikal: I count 5 bugs left07:58
mikalWhen I went to bed on Friday, I think all of those remaining bugs had fixes propsed07:58
mikalObviously they haven't merged07:58
mikalHow do you want to proceed here07:59
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mikalWalk through the five and discuss the state of each?07:59
ttxhard to blame the gate, it's empty this morning07:59
ttxmikal: yes please07:59
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mikalOh, I'm not07:59
mikalI was off sick over the weekend, and am explaining my lack of state07:59
mikalOk, so...07:59
mikal#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/137395007:59
mikalThe fix at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124063/ proposes to "roll forwards" instead of revert08:00
mikalWhich I think is the wrong call at this point in the release08:00
mikalIt also doesn't link to the alternate patch08:00
johnthetubaguymorning08:00
mikaljohnthetubaguy: hey08:00
mikalJust walking through the bugs left in rc108:00
ttxyeah, couln't find it08:00
mikalWe're on the first one still08:00
ttx(alternate patch)08:00
johnthetubaguyI tried to review all those yesterday08:01
mikalhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/124384/ seems to be the alternate patch08:01
johnthetubaguybasically, fix it, or revert it08:01
johnthetubaguythere are two fix it patches I think08:01
ttxand it's gating08:01
mikaljohnthetubaguy: I see two reverts on the bug, but only one "fix" patch?08:01
mikaljohnthetubaguy: I think its too late for a fix08:01
mikalI think we _have_ to revert08:02
mikalGiven the bug is "this implementation doesn't make sense"08:02
johnthetubaguylet me check those patches, yeah08:02
mikalNikola has WIP'ed his reverts08:02
ttxit's going to be added to gate queue anytime now08:03
ttxhmm, actually, it's in gate now08:03
mikalThe fix patch you mean?08:03
johnthetubaguyI think nikola just added another RC1 bug08:03
ttxyes08:03
mikalOMG, yes now there are six08:03
mikalShall we drag Nikola in here to talk through this bug?08:04
ttxwhy not08:04
johnthetubaguyyeah08:04
* mikal does that thing08:04
johnthetubaguyI think we need to nuke it08:04
johnthetubaguythere is too much up for review08:05
johnthetubaguyits like a new feature08:05
ttxyes, from the sound of the bug it's a bit of a shot in the dark08:05
johnthetubaguywell, its quite well reasoned, just no chance of merging it now :(08:05
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mikalHi ndipanov08:06
ndipanovo/08:06
mikalThanks for joining us08:06
ndipanovnp08:06
mikalWe're just walking through the remaining RC bugs for juno08:06
mikalhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1373950 is the current victim08:06
* ndipanov looks08:06
mikalThe serial console stuff08:06
ndipanovah yes08:06
ndipanovso I like sahid's fix08:06
ndipanovno reason not to ship it imho08:06
mikalI feel given we're meant to release like today, that its too late to roll forwards08:07
johnthetubaguyhow can we merge it yesterday, is the issue really08:07
ndipanovmikal, well one patch failed CI08:07
ndipanovand the other one has a -1 from Jay but I responded to that08:07
mikalndipanov: what patches are needed to roll forwards?08:07
mikalThe bug doesn't make that obvious08:07
ndipanovone sec08:07
ttxmikal: if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124384 is all thgere is to it, it's closer to roll forward than revert08:07
ttxor is there more ?08:08
ndipanovhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/124385/ and the one it depends on08:08
ndipanovwhich was approved but failed jenkins08:08
mikalThere are five patches in that topic on gerrit though08:09
johnthetubaguyndipanov: did you see the following three patches?08:09
mikalhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bug/1373950,n,z08:09
ttxOh, it's a patchseries of 508:09
johnthetubaguylooks like there are a load of bugs around exceptions too08:09
ndipanovoh wow I missed that08:09
ttxmikal: agree it's very featury08:09
johnthetubaguyndipanov: me too till just now08:09
johnthetubaguyndipanov: I think we have to nuke the broken thing, and get it up for review again in a week08:10
ndipanovcan you guys five me a sec08:10
ttxjohnthetubaguy: +108:10
mikaljohnthetubaguy: I agree, but let's give ndipanov a sec08:10
ndipanovI think the first 2 patches are enough but want to confirm08:10
johnthetubaguyndipanov: gotcha08:10
ndipanovI think the rest was just nova reviewers reviewing08:10
ttxmaybe we can look at the others, that will give us a better idea of how far we are from rc108:10
johnthetubaguylets go to the next one08:10
mikalOk, fair enough08:11
ttxwhich may affect our final decision08:11
mikal#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/131013508:11
ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/124162/ ?08:11
johnthetubaguyI guess, this is new since I last looked at the list08:12
mikalYeah, that seems to be the only outstanding patch in that bug08:12
ndipanovso just after looking at the next patch in the series it is absolutely not critical08:12
ndipanovplus it actually does not reference the bug08:12
johnthetubaguyndipanov: its just tidying up error cases?08:12
ndipanovyeah needlesly imho - I want to -1 it :)08:13
ndipanovso if we just slam in the first 2 we can call it a bug08:13
ttxndipanov: so it's a series of 4 ?08:13
ndipanov208:13
ndipanovonly first 2 patches are relevant to the bug08:13
mikalttx: I think he's saying its a series of two with some random stuff on the end08:14
ndipanovyes08:14
ttxah ok08:14
ndipanovthis08:14
mikalAre both of those two approved?08:14
mikalOnly the first is, right?08:14
ndipanovmikal, yes08:14
johnthetubaguyI need to get my head around Jay's API comment, but the other could be approved soon08:14
ndipanovthe second one has a -1 from jay08:14
mikalFor clarity, what other one needs to merge?08:14
ndipanovbut I think he missunderstood it08:14
johnthetubaguyndipanov: next one on the list we need to approve too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110319/08:15
ndipanovso:08:15
ndipanovhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/124384/08:15
ndipanovand08:15
ndipanovhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/124385/08:15
ndipanovis needed for the bug08:15
johnthetubaguyndipanov: sorry, that was a different list, the rc1 list08:16
ndipanovall else is cleanup08:16
mikalAnd 124384 is approved08:16
ttxand gating08:16
mikal124385 is only 15 lines of delta08:16
mikalAnd only 1 line of actual code change, the rest is test implications08:16
mikalOh I lie08:17
johnthetubaguymikal: I just getting my head around if I like it or not08:17
mikalThe serial proxy as well08:17
ttxalso I think it's fine to change now, since the serial stuff is new iiuc08:17
ndipanovit removes the web option so we don't attempt to serve static content as there is non08:17
ttxwhereas fixing postrelease would be a pita08:17
ndipanovttx, yeah08:17
johnthetubaguyttx: thats a good way of looking at it08:17
ndipanovmy point exactly hence the critical bug08:17
mikaljohnthetubaguy: I think I'd be ok with +2'ing that patch, what about you?08:18
ttxI vote for pushing it in rc108:18
johnthetubaguyndipanov: I don't disagree, its just where we draw the line08:18
johnthetubaguymikal: yeah, I think so08:18
ttxand if it's a big bag of fail, we nuke it in rc208:18
johnthetubaguymikal: do it08:18
mikaljohnthetubaguy: wanna +2 and +A then?08:18
ndipanovjohnthetubaguy, btw I acked that patch08:18
johnthetubaguymikal: I figured I would let you do that08:18
ndipanovttx, it is a big bag of fail ...08:18
ndipanov:)08:18
mikalI live having three +2's there, it makes it clear we talkeda bout it08:18
johnthetubaguyOK08:18
mikalBut sure, I can +A if you want08:19
mikalSo, sounds like bug 1373950 is not a big problem for us now08:19
ttxnext?08:20
* mikal was just waiting for the +A to appear before moving on08:20
johnthetubaguymikal: I went all "english" on jay with an appology, and felt better about it08:20
mikalOk, back to bug 131013508:20
ttxso is that just https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124162/ ?08:21
mikalThat needs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124162/208:21
mikalYes, with Jay's -1 having ben addressed as a misunderstanding08:21
mikalBut no +2's yet08:21
ttxso can be overruled imho08:21
mikalAgreed. I think johnthetubaguy and I should agree to review that one after the meeting08:21
johnthetubaguysure08:21
mikalMove on?08:21
ttxyesd08:21
mikal#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/134988808:22
johnthetubaguynext one I think is good08:22
ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/110319/ gating08:22
johnthetubaguyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/114548/08:22
mikalIts approved, so I asume in the gate08:22
johnthetubaguyoh wait, wrong order08:22
ttxjohnthetubaguy: refresh08:22
mikalIts my fault08:22
johnthetubaguylol08:22
mikalI opened the tabs before the list changed08:22
mikalBug 1349888 has https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110319/08:23
mikalWhich is approved and gating08:23
mikalSo let's move on from it08:23
mikal#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/135737208:23
ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/114548/08:23
mikalAhhh, garky pinged me about this one earlier today08:23
mikalMy -1 has been addressed08:24
johnthetubaguyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/114548/08:24
ttxneeds 2nd +208:24
mikalSo, I can change that to an approve08:24
johnthetubaguycool, thanks08:24
ttxpotential security issue, but that won't block the bug being fixed anyway08:24
ttxack08:24
mikalOk, approved08:24
mikalSo now gating (ish)08:24
ttxnext08:24
mikal#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/135913808:24
mikalhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/118595/08:25
mikalBasically unreviewed?08:25
johnthetubaguyOK, so I reviewed that, its super close08:25
ttxsame case, probably a security issue08:25
ttxso would trigger a rc2 if we left it out08:25
mikaljohnthetubaguy: I don't see youre review on 118595?08:25
johnthetubaguysee patchset 608:26
mikalAh, I see08:26
mikalOk, so that's another one johnthetubaguy and I promise to review?08:26
johnthetubaguysure, although that list is getting big agin08:26
johnthetubaguyi just +2ed it though08:27
mikalWell, there's two we've promised to review so far08:27
mikalSo waht was the one which got added while we were in this meeting?08:27
johnthetubaguyndipanov: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118595/7 if you have a sec08:27
ttxI think those are all in the same timeframe, so probably not delaying anything08:27
mikalAhhh, here it is08:27
mikal#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/137490208:27
* ndipanov looks08:27
ttxespecially if we can enqueue them while queue is empty08:27
mikalThe last one in our list08:27
ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/124612/08:28
mikalFix needs one more review08:28
johnthetubaguyI promised to review that08:28
mikalI can tto08:28
mikalToo even08:28
mikalSo, we have three bugs which are gating08:28
mikalAnd three where we need to review the fix08:28
mikalBut I think we could knock out those reviews really quickly if needed08:28
mikalSo, I think we could have all of these bugs gating with say an hour08:29
ttxmikal: when you're satisfied with the state of master, you should push something like https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:open-kilo,n,z on top of nova master08:29
ttxand I'll cut the branch from the previous commit08:29
ndipanovmikal, can you post the reviews I'll look at them08:29
mikalndipanov: sure, in a sec08:29
mikalttx: as in just ptl fiat a +A on a patch like that?08:29
johnthetubaguyndipanov:  mikal: yeah, over in #openstack-nova and we can pile on08:30
ttxyes, that's fine08:30
mikalOr you'll use the dependant sha from gerrit?08:30
ttxserves as sugnoff08:30
ttxsignoff08:30
ttxdependant sha ?08:30
mikalOk, so do self-approve in gerrit so it merges?08:30
mikalThe gerrit review will have a parent sha08:30
ttxmikal: I can also push the change and you just -2 it until you're ready to +2/APRV it08:31
mikalI'm just clarifying that I should self merge that change08:31
ttxlet me do that08:31
mikalOk, that sounds better08:31
mikalIn case I fat finger it or something08:31
ttxjust a sec08:31
ttxhah, first nova repo clone on my new laptop. Stay put.08:32
mikalHeh08:32
ttxmikal: anything else ?08:32
ttxwould be good to keep an eye on the rc1 list and make sure nobody adds stragglers08:32
ttxalso you can start using juno-rc-potential tag08:33
mikalYep, I can do that until I go to sleep08:33
mikalI will hand off to johnthetubaguy when I go night night08:33
ttxfor stuff that could be interesting to backport in case we do an RC208:33
johnthetubaguycool, I will keep an eye out08:33
mikalBut I'd like to stay up for these last merges if possible08:33
mikalIt depends how horribly the gate fails us08:33
ttxI think we are on track for a RC1 in less than 24 hours08:33
mikalYay!08:33
johnthetubaguymikal: you going to email the list about the tag, and open of specs, once we cut?08:33
mikaljohnthetubaguy: so, there's some paperwork to do before we open specs08:33
mikaljohnthetubaguy: but I will mail about the cutting of rc1 once we're ready08:34
mikaljohnthetubaguy: jogo wants to chagne the spec template for kilo for example08:34
ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/12498108:34
johnthetubaguymikal: yeah, I was wondering what we were going to change about that08:34
ttxmika: pleas e-2 ^08:34
mikalttx: done08:35
mikalThanks08:35
ttxgreat08:35
ttxanything else ?08:35
johnthetubaguycool, review time08:35
* ttx grabs some coffee08:35
mikalttx: I think we're good for now?08:35
ttxmikal: yes we are08:36
johnthetubaguyttx: enjoy the coffee08:36
mikaljohnthetubaguy: let's move this over to openstack-nova then, as this is being meeting logged08:36
ttxmikal: also, anythig that makes it before that commit will obviously be in08:36
ttxwe just won't wait on it to cut08:36
mikalYep, I will send an "approve nothing" to the list now08:36
johnthetubaguymikal: thanks08:36
mikalUnless you think that's overkill08:36
ttxthat may be overkill08:37
mikalOk, I shall calm down then08:37
ttxthings which make it while we wait for the last blockers are generally fine08:37
ttxunless they are the first of a 10-patch series08:37
mikalI don't think much is being approved anyways from the state of the gate08:37
johnthetubaguyyeah, its the UK morning08:38
ttxoh, let me check translations status08:39
ttxnot too bad, last one merged on Sep 2608:39
ttxmikal: you may want to approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124295/ to have fresh ones08:40
ttxin the rc08:40
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eglynnttx: knock, knock ... ready when you are11:44
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ttx#topic Ceilometer11:46
ttxeglynn: o/11:46
eglynn#link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/juno-rc111:46
eglynnso we're looking in good shape to go with that11:47
ttxIf you merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124958/ then I'll tag RC1 on the previous commit11:47
eglynncool, that's approved11:47
ttxgreat, will cut proposed/juno and tag rc1 once that's gets in11:48
eglynnexcellent :)11:48
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ttxI don't think there is much more to discuss11:49
ttxOh, final summit slot allocation perhaps11:49
eglynnyeah that would be good to know11:49
ttx6 scheduled slots + a full-day meetup on Friday11:49
ttxI'll publish the layout this week11:49
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eglynnOK, I presume there's an across-the-board cut of circa 33% of the ATL slots per project11:50
ttxin general yes. there is also an adjustment based on project activity11:51
eglynna-ha, k ... activity == number of BPs landed in juno?11:51
ttxrough metric based on number of reviews/commits/patchsets/BPs yes11:51
ttxto try to be fair11:52
ttxonly 6 programs got a full-day meetup, too11:52
eglynnfair enough, sounds reasonable11:53
eglynnI'll bring that info back to the team11:53
ttxok, questions at that point ?11:53
ttxany topic for the meeting tonight ?11:53
eglynnwell, the relatively low number of PTL nominations is a concern11:55
eglynn... but probably shouldn't be discussed til after the cinder & tripleO elections play out11:55
eglynn... so I'll punt that to a later discussion11:56
eglynnthat's it from me11:57
ttxack12:06
ttxSergeyLukjanov: I assume you're not around12:06
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ttxdhellmann: ready when you are12:15
dhellmannttx: o/12:15
ttx#topic Oslo12:15
ttxdhellmann: I think we are doe as far as Oslo is concerned. Any remaining question ?12:16
ttxdone*12:16
dhellmannwe have one bug for which we will need a patch release of oslo.db soon12:16
ttxok12:16
dhellmann#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.db/+bug/137449712:16
dhellmannI'll need to get you to make the branch, I think, since I didn't seem to have permissions when we tried that for the incubator12:17
ttxso how do you want to do that... on master or on a stable/juno branch ?12:17
dhellmannwe'll merge the fix on master and then backport to stable/juno12:18
dhellmannI guess you could go ahead and create the branch now, let me find the hash12:18
ttxyes I can do that probably12:18
ttxI'll create a juno task on the bug as well12:18
dhellmannooo, how do you do that?12:18
ttxarh, wait12:18
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ttxI need to adjust "version under development" for solo.db first12:19
ttxwhen you get a chance you should set "development focus" to kilo for all oslo things :)12:20
dhellmannit looks like 1.0.1 was our last release, so we would want to branch from that point so we can make 1.0.212:20
dhellmannok, I'll do that12:20
ttxthat allows to create backport tasks for juno12:20
ttxlike that: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.db/+bug/137449712:20
ttxwe alsoprobably want to create a milestone target for oslo.db12:21
dhellmannok, after that's done, where do I click to add the juno task?12:21
ttxnext-juno ? or some version number?12:21
ttxdo you have "target to series" below the bug tasks ?12:21
dhellmannlet's call it next-juno and let the script rename it12:21
dhellmannah, I see that now12:21
ttxthe script might tag off master though12:21
dhellmannoh, true12:22
dhellmannok, let's call it 1.0.2 then12:22
ttxok creating12:22
ttxso that way it's clear you need to backport12:22
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.db/+bug/137449712:23
dhellmannyeah, I wanted to do that yesterday but didn't know how12:23
ttxI think it may be simpler to do it by hand for a 1.0.2 (tag and fixrelease the only bug)12:23
dhellmannit looks like the master version of the patch is committed, so if you make the branch I think we can get that release done today12:23
dhellmannyeah, I'll do all of the lp stuff by hand12:23
ttxoh, branch. right.12:24
ttxwhich commit should I start from ?12:24
dhellmannthe one tagged 1.0.1 is 2849f1bdca0c39b342d434c06cdc23dc6cf946f412:24
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ttxdhellmann: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.db/12:25
ttxshould be all set12:25
dhellmannexcellent, thanks12:25
ttxok, anything else ?12:25
dhellmanndo you have an opinion on whether or not we should keep using alpha version numbers for oslo releases?12:26
dhellmannthere was a ML thread about testing libraries that has been focusing on the versioning12:26
ttxNo strong opinion. I kinda liked the wheel hack that was making alpha semi-invisible12:26
dhellmannyou and I seem to be in the minority there :-)12:27
dhellmannthat's the only thing I had to bring up12:27
ttxso, here is an example12:27
ttxwhile we were working on rootwrap 1.312:27
ttxthere was some fix that was necessary for a cinder feature to land (required a new rootwrap filter class)12:28
ttxwe could publish an alpha and make cinder use it12:28
ttxwithout affecting the others which could just wait for the final12:28
ttxI felt like it was kind of cool, but I can survive release number inflation I guess12:29
dhellmannthat's another good case12:29
dhellmannI've been focusing on the stable branches12:29
ttxbasically, some oslo lib changes are requested by consumers, while some others are general improvements12:29
ttxin the first case, alphas let those pioneer projects consume that extra feature they requested12:29
ttxwhile the others would consume the "general improvements" when we demm them ready and finished12:30
ttxdeem*12:30
ttxall other things equal I think it's a good thing to have... but if that creates problems then we can do without those.12:31
dhellmannwould that work with our global requirements syncing?12:31
dhellmannyeah, the only problems we seem to have are people not liking the fact that we're calling them alphas -- I'm not aware of any actual technical issues we've had12:31
ttxit did work, because global would have >=1.2.0 and cinder would have >=1.3.0.0a212:31
dhellmannah, ok12:32
dhellmannwell, wait, that's what I mean -- how would you make cinder's requirements different from the global list? I thought we had a check job that prevented that.12:32
ttxhmm, I think it worked. Maybe it doesn't ;)12:33
dhellmannsomething to experiment with :-)12:33
ttxok well, let's continue the discussion on the ml12:33
dhellmannyeah, I just wanted to make sure you'd seen the thread12:34
dhellmannttx: that's all I had for today, so unless there's anything else I'm going to see about finding some breakfast12:35
ttxgo go go breakfast12:35
ttxttyl12:35
dhellmannttx: thanks, ttyl12:40
ttxjgriffith: ready when you are13:59
jgriffithttx: okie14:02
ttx#topic Cinder14:02
ttxlast time I looked you were ready14:02
jgriffithYeah14:02
jgriffithholding steady14:03
ttxyou just need to approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124960/14:03
jgriffithgo the last VMWare patch merged last night14:03
ttxand I'll cut the proposed juno branch from the previous commit14:03
jgriffithOkie Dokie14:03
jgriffith+2/A'd14:04
ttxok, will push soon14:04
jgriffithgreat, thx as always14:04
ttxlet me know if you have something big warranting opening a RC2 window14:04
jgriffithWill do14:04
ttxanything to discuss at meeting ?14:04
jgriffithNope, not from my side14:05
jgriffithjust a push for testing14:05
ttxjgriffith: cinder has 7 scheduled slots and a half-day meetup in paris in my proposed layout14:05
jgriffithttx: thnking14:05
jgriffithI think I"m fine with that14:05
ttxas requested after ATL, I avoided conflicts with Swift, and you don't go last for once14:05
jgriffithparticularly with the 1/2 day meetup added to it14:06
jgriffithttx: haha... people sure did whine about being last14:06
jgriffithttx: I just thought it was "best for last" type thing14:06
ttxwell, with all meetups happening on Friday you still have some activity on Friday14:06
jgriffithYeah... I think this is good14:07
ttxbut I got you a morning space14:07
jgriffithIt'll be interesting to see how the new format works14:07
ttxindeed14:07
jgriffithIt'll be nice to have a morning space14:07
jgriffithI am looking forward to it14:07
jgriffithBy Friday afternoons I"m usually pretty much toast14:07
ttxany question ?14:07
jgriffithnone14:07
ttxok then, enjoy your day!14:08
jgriffiththanks... you as well14:08
ttxwill ping you when I start tagging14:08
jgriffithI'll be here :)14:08
ttxdolphm: ready when you are14:11
dolphmttx: o/14:15
* morganfainberg lurks as well.14:15
ttx#topic Keystone14:15
ttxwe got the RC1 out this morning14:15
ttxso now the focus is on keeping track of new bugs, especially those filed with the juno-rc-potential tag14:16
ttxwe usually open a RC2 window in case of a new release blocker (regression, security issue, etc...)14:16
dolphmttx: should it not deprecate the juno-rc-potential tag in favor of juno-backport-potential now?14:16
ttxno, we use juno-backport-potential after release14:16
ttxfor stable/juno backports14:17
ttxrc-potential are for things that may trigger a new rc14:17
dolphmin that case, we have one new medium/high bug since RC1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/137577214:17
ttxerr, got dropped14:18
ttxwhat was the last thing you got from me ?14:18
dolphm<ttx> rc-potential are for things that may trigger a new rc14:18
ttxok, you got everything then ;)14:18
ttxquestions on that ?14:18
dolphmno, just that we have one bug since RC that potentially falls in that bucket14:19
dolphmhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/137577214:19
ttxok -- first step is to get it fixed in master anyway14:19
ttxwe'll let the bugs pile up for a couple days at least14:19
ttxotherwise nobody will test the rc114:19
dolphmack14:20
ttxin other news, keystone has 7 scheduled slots and a half-day meetup in Paris14:20
dolphmttx: noted!14:21
ttxI'll publish the proposed layout soon14:21
ttxanything you'd liek to discuss at meeting later today ?14:21
dolphmi don't believe so14:22
ttxok, then talk to you both later14:22
morganfainbergttx, thanks14:22
ttxnotmyname: you can go now if that's convenient14:24
notmynamettx: good morning14:24
ttxnotmyname: some bird told me you were in a meetup those days14:24
ttx#topic Swift14:25
notmyname:-)14:25
notmynameeast coast mornings come early14:25
ttxnotmyname: so, how close are we from a rc1 in swiftland ?14:25
notmynamestill thinking early next week14:25
notmynamewe've got 3 things we're tracking right now https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews14:25
notmynameand we'll get at least two of them done this week14:26
notmynamehopefully all three14:26
ttxok -- would be good if we could do it before end of week14:26
ttxif not, very early next week14:26
notmynameyup. hackathon ends on thursday :-)14:26
ttxso that we get a full week to prove it out14:26
notmynametoday we're working on the metadata one and have a collaborative review of the ring-builder patch14:27
ttxsounds good14:27
notmynameerr..have a review today of that patch14:27
notmynamethat "today" word is important in that sentence :-)14:28
ttxas far as summit goes, like I told last week, you get 6 scheduled slots and a half-day meetup14:28
notmynamesounds good14:28
ttxI avoided the conflicts with the summit talks you have on Wed14:28
notmynameI'll be working on getting the scheduling today14:28
notmynameah, thanks :-)14:28
ttxwhich places the swift scheduled sessions on Thursday14:28
notmynameok. and then half-day on friday?14:29
ttxyes, friday morning14:29
notmynameok, great14:29
ttxwill publish the proposed layout later this week14:29
ttxquestions ? things you'd like to discuss at meeting today ?14:30
notmynameyes, one question14:30
notmynameI saw your TC agenda email. anything I need to know about for today's TC meeting?14:30
notmynamewrt swift14:30
ttxnot really. We need to decide if it's worth having TC meetings during the TC election season14:31
notmynameokk14:31
notmynameoh, just one more question14:31
notmynameabout requirements14:31
notmynameglobal-requirements is frozen, right?14:31
ttxbut I think we need to make progress on the big tent questions before going into swift potential alignment on some of the "differences"14:31
notmynameok14:31
notmynameagreed14:31
ttxwe can't say "adopt common release" one week, only to say that most projects should follow the swift model the next week.14:32
notmynameheh14:32
notmynamewhen does global reqs get unfrozen? oct 17?14:32
ttxglobal-requirements is frozen yes14:32
ttxwhen all projects do RC1s14:32
notmynameah ok14:32
ttxthen we cut the stable/juno requirements branch14:32
notmynameok14:33
ttxso the exact date might be under your control :)14:33
ttxsince I expect all other projects to be done in the next 2 days14:33
notmynameswift will need a new version of eventlet very soon. not for juno, but asap to keep dev work flowing14:33
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notmynameok :-)14:33
ttxI don't think you'll have to wait long between your RC1 and that requirement unfreeze14:34
notmynameok14:34
ttxnotmyname: ok then, have a good hackathon14:34
notmynamethanks14:34
ttx#link Swift 2.2.0 blockers at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews14:34
ttxerr14:35
ttx#info Swift 2.2.0 blockers at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews14:35
ttxmestery: ready when you are14:35
mesteryttx: o/14:35
ttx#topic Neutron14:35
ttx5 bugs left @14:36
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/juno-rc114:36
ttxlet's go through them14:36
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/135705514:36
ttxnot sure that qualifies as RC1 blocker14:37
mesteryI agree, and I will remove this one.14:37
ttxcritical, maybe, but can be fixed in master and/or backported14:37
mesteryAck14:37
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/137457314:37
ttxthat one qualifies, nice regression14:37
mesteryAck14:38
ttxThat would be https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124975/ ?14:38
* mestery looks14:38
mesteryApologies for being slow, new computer today so still sorting things out.14:38
ttxif yes, could use some review14:38
ttxHP computers, beh14:38
mestery:)14:38
mesteryActually a Mac ;)14:38
mesteryBut just not setup yet14:38
ttxeven WORSE14:38
mesteryHhahahaha14:39
mesterySo, that review is for but 137457314:39
mesteryI'll sort that out with kevinbenton and armax today14:39
mesteryThis one is a release blocker I think14:39
ttxagreed14:39
mesteryPer discussion in the neutron meeting yesterday14:39
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/132372914:39
mesterySo hopefully we can wrap this today14:39
mesteryWe would really like to land this one today, I'll sync with markmcclain on it.14:40
ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/123624/ + https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123625/14:40
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mesteryLast I checked, markmcclain was still doing some testing. Not sure if this is a release blocker or not though.14:40
ttxthat's the things which were moved to ML2, right ?14:41
mesteryYes14:41
mesteryWe're removing the plugins and keeping the agents14:41
ttxI think it should be a release blocker, you don't really want to maintain that fcode for one more release :)14:41
mesteryhahahah14:41
mesteryagreed14:41
mesteryso lets leave this one14:41
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134830914:41
ttxso that one is a bit more mysterious14:42
mesteryAgreed14:42
mesteryThere are lots of reviews on there.14:42
mesteryLike this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123273/14:42
mesteryAnd this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119253/14:42
mesteryBoth need to merge to close it I think14:42
ttx"This was a know backlog item when DVR code merged"14:42
mesteryYeah, carl_baldwin was tracking these, and this is the last one.14:42
mesteryLet me verify with carl_baldwin today if this really is a release blocker or not.14:43
mesteryI suspect it can be backported, but I'll verify.14:43
ttxfeels like the BP did beat the FF clock but left out half the implementation to do so14:43
mesteryCould be yes :)14:44
ttxok, and the last one:14:44
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/134644414:44
mesteryI don't know how htis one got in there14:44
mesteryIt must have snuck in yesterday14:44
mesteryYes, looks like salv added it yesterday.14:44
ttxI think it's fine if it gets in... but I wouldn't block on it14:45
mesteryAgreed.14:45
ttxso let's remove it from list14:45
mesteryGot it.14:45
mesteryDone14:45
mesteryDown to 3 now, much better.14:46
ttxmestery: So.. I can post an open-kilo change that you can -2 until you're ready to tag14:46
mesteryttx: Sounds good, thanks!14:46
mesteryttx: Tagging the neutron release is the same as tagging the clients, right?14:46
mesteryI may have some questions for you when I get to that ;)14:46
ttxmestery: I'll do it14:47
mesteryOK, thanks :)14:47
ttxon the commit just before that open-kilo merge14:47
ttxso that review serves as a signoff14:47
ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/12508114:47
ttxplease -2 it for the time being14:47
ttxso that it doesn't get accidentally merged14:48
ttx(that's the first kilo commit basically)14:48
ttx(we cut proposed/juno branch from the commit just before that)14:48
mesteryDone, added -2.14:48
mesteryAck14:48
ttxmestery: ok, hat's all I had. Let's get those stragglers in14:48
mesteryThanks ttx!14:49
ttxmestery: anything to discuss at meeting ?14:49
mesteryNot much from my side. I will attend, but will slightly distracted, HP has me in meetings most of the day today meeting new people :)14:49
ttxOh, and neutron gets 11 scheduled slots and a full-day meetup in Paris.14:49
mesteryYay! Awesome!14:49
mesterySo, have you heard that I won't be in Paris14:49
mestery?14:49
mesteryMy wife is pregnant and due date is November 7.14:49
ttxno i haven't14:49
mesteryCan't risk travelign with baby due date that week.14:49
ttxyeah, that qualifies14:50
mesteryWill rely on markmcclain and the rest of the team to run the summit for me.14:50
mestery:)14:50
mesteryBummed I will miss folks in person.14:50
mesteryBut we have a strong team and I will rely on them in my abscense.14:50
ttxmestery: ok, will miss you though14:50
mesterySam here, thanks ttx!14:51
ttxdavid-lyle: ready ?14:51
david-lylettx yeah14:51
ttx#topci Horizon14:51
ttx#topic Horizon14:51
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/juno-rc114:52
ttx3 bugs left14:52
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/129951714:52
ttxIs that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96766/ ?14:52
david-lyleYes14:53
ttxok, one more +214:53
david-lyleI need to do final pass on that today and it should be in14:53
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/136772014:53
ttxblocked on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12041114:53
ttxwhich may need a nudge14:54
ttxand https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/125240314:54
ttxwhich hinges on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116596/14:54
ttxwhich could also use a nudge14:54
ttxdavid-lyle: I'll push a "first kilo" change, for you to approve when you're all god with juno14:55
david-lyleSure14:55
ttxgood*14:55
ttxlet me do that now so that you can -2 it14:55
ttxdavid-lyle: anything you wanted to discuss at meeting today ?14:55
david-lyleNo we're set14:56
ttxdavid-lyle: https://review.openstack.org/12508814:56
ttxplease -2 it for the time being14:56
ttxand approve when you're all happy and all blockers are in14:56
david-lyle-2 applied14:57
ttxdavid-lyle: horizon gets 6 scheduled slots and a half-day meetup in Paris14:57
david-lyleExcellent14:57
ttxok, so please get all those last reviews in... we need to cut RC1 asap now :)14:57
ttxdavid-lyle: talk to you later!14:57
david-lyleWill try to wrap today14:58
david-lyleLater14:58
ttxdavid-lyle: feel free to approve the open-kilo when ready, I'll use that as a signal that I can tag and branch.14:59
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ttxSergeyLukjanov: ready when you are15:34
ttxzaneb: ready when you are15:44
zanebttx: o/15:44
ttx#topic Heat15:44
zanebit's going the right direction now :)15:44
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/juno-rc115:44
ttx3 bugs left!15:44
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/137412815:45
zanebI just approved the patch for one of them15:45
ttxdo we really need to block release on that one ^15:45
zanebI'm not sure, but it is looking like a candidate to be dropped15:46
ttxzaneb: it's fine to include it if it makes it in time, just maybe not worth it to block on it15:46
zanebthe abandon/adopt one is not being worked on, so it will have to be dropped15:46
ttxwould also make a decent thing to include if we ever did another rc15:46
zanebthe question is whether to replace it with one to disable that whole feature by default15:46
ttxzaneb: agreed15:46
zanebwhich I started a discussion about on the ML15:47
ttxok15:47
ttxlet's keep that bug in as a tracker15:47
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/134757115:47
ttxthat would be the one you just approved15:48
zanebcorrect15:48
ttxzaneb: ok, so... I would untarget 1374128 (tag it juno-rc-potential instead)15:48
ttxwait for some closure on 130131415:48
ttxand wait for 1347571 to make it through gate15:49
ttxif the fix for 1374128 makes it while we wait for the other two, that's fine :)15:49
zanebok, I just tagged + untargeted it15:50
ttxLet me push an open-kilo change that you can -1 while we wait for the last fixes15:50
ttxerr -2.15:50
ttxzaneb: please temporarily -2: https://review.openstack.org/12510415:51
ttxwhen all targeted bugs are fixed, you can approve that one. It will serve as a signoff: I'll branch and tag from the previous commit in log15:52
zanebdone15:52
ttxOK. I think that covers everything15:53
zanebcool15:53
zanebjust spoke to therve15:53
ttxProposed design summit layout gives Heat 7 scheduled sessions and a full-day meetup in Paris15:53
zanebexpecting a patch within the next hour on the Barbican one15:53
ttxzaneb: cool15:53
zanebexcellent :)15:53
ttxanything you'd like to discuss at meeting tonight ?15:54
ttxquestions on rc1/anything ?15:54
zanebso after rc1 we just wait for bugs to come in to decide whether to do further rcs?15:55
ttxyes... we ask people to tag rc wanabbes with "juno-rc-potential" so that we reviw them15:55
ttxa new RC window is usually triggered by some regression or some security issue15:55
zanebok, cool. that's what I thought I remembered15:56
ttxbut hen we pile up a few other easy backports15:56
ttxthe idea being to fix all in master asap, and to backport during the RC window15:56
* zaneb is feeling almost like a competent PTL this week15:56
ttxyou finally get it, but then we change !15:56
zaneblol15:56
ttxIt's to keep me on my toes I see15:57
ttxzaneb: ok, talk to you later!15:57
zanebgot to keep it interesting ;)15:57
zanebwill do, cheers!15:57
ttxSergeyLukjanov: you can go now if you're around15:58
SergeyLukjanovttx, I'm ready16:05
ttx#topic Sahara16:05
ttxOne bug left https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137577316:06
SergeyLukjanov#link https://launchpad.net/sahara/+milestone/juno-rc116:06
SergeyLukjanovyup16:06
ttxgating now16:06
SergeyLukjanovit's in the gate I think16:06
SergeyLukjanovlet me check16:06
ttxthen you canb approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124959/16:06
SergeyLukjanovokay16:07
SergeyLukjanovand you'll tag the prev. commit?16:07
ttxyes16:07
ttxmaybe wait for that last commit to merge before approving16:07
SergeyLukjanovttx, yeah, it's much more safe16:07
ttxi.e. wait for 125032 to merge before +2ing 12495916:07
ttxI'll pick it up once it merged, and branch/tag16:08
ttxprobably tomorrow morning at this point16:08
ttxtogether with cinder and nova16:08
SergeyLukjanovyeah, gotcha16:08
ttxthen we'll pile up bugs with juno-rc-potential16:08
ttxtag16:08
ttxand see if we have anythiong worth the hassle of a respin16:09
ttxif any bug is found, just fix it on kilo/master16:09
ttxso that it's ready to backport in case we want it16:09
SergeyLukjanovttx, ack16:09
ttxQuestions on that ?16:10
SergeyLukjanovwe've been doning the same for icehouse release16:10
ttxAnything you'd like us to discuss at meeting today ?16:10
SergeyLukjanovnope16:10
SergeyLukjanovthank you16:10
ttxAt design summit, you can count on 5 scheduled sessions and a half-day meetup16:10
SergeyLukjanovok, that's great16:11
ttxok then, talk to you later. Will ping you when I tag16:11
SergeyLukjanovthanks16:13
ttx#endmeeting16:13
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ttxlet's do this16:13
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ttx#topic Trove16:14
ttxso.. 7 bugs, that's a bit too much16:14
ttxlet's go over them16:14
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/134993916:14
SlickNikSounds good.16:14
ttxthat one is security, so probably good to have prerelease16:15
SlickNikYup, I want to really take this.16:15
ttxjust needs a second +216:15
SlickNikIt already has one +216:15
ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/117174/16:15
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/135664516:15
SlickNikYup, I'm going to drive these getting reviewed by core today.16:15
ttxsame here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123677/16:15
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/135706516:15
ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/120874/ needs more love16:16
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ttxdifficult to fix postrelease though16:16
ttxdo you think it can gather the required approvals sometimes today ?16:17
SlickNikOkay, so I will pick that one myself and drive that to closure today.16:17
ttxok16:17
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/135770416:17
ttxnot sure we need to block on this one16:18
ttxI mean, if it makes it in the required time, then all the better16:18
SlickNikThis one is medium pri — it's a good to have. Okay to punt to kilo for sake of time.16:18
ttxok, remove it from RC116:18
SlickNikDoing that right now.16:18
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/136231016:19
ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/121938/ just needs a second +216:19
ttxalso difficult to fix postrelease16:19
ttxlets keep it in16:19
SlickNikAgreed.16:19
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/137012516:20
ttxhmm, just missing second +216:20
SlickNikI was in the process of reviewing this one. :)16:20
ttxalso difficult to fix postrelease16:20
ttxso let's keep it in16:20
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/137531116:21
SlickNikSo I think this is nice to have.16:21
SlickNikI'll punt it to kilo.16:21
ttxthis one could be fixed postrelease16:21
ttxyep, if it makes it befor ethe others go in, let's include it16:21
SlickNikIf it makes it in, so be it. If not, it's still good.16:21
SlickNikOkay,16:22
ttxso remove rc1 from that last one16:22
ttxI'll push an open-kilo change that you can merge when all is done16:22
ttxyou can -2 it for the time being16:22
ttxjust a sec16:22
ttxanythign you wanted to discuss in meeting today ?16:23
SlickNikNope, wanted to talk about the summit slots — but I think that might already be on the agenda.16:23
ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/12511316:23
ttxplease -2 it for now ^16:23
SlickNikNothing particular, just curious to see how they're shaping up16:23
ttxwhen everything is in and you're satisfied, approve it16:24
ttxI'll tag RC1 from the commit just before that one16:24
SlickNikSounds good. Thanks ttx!16:24
ttxok... and Trove will have 4 scheduled slots and a half-day meetup in Paris16:24
ttxto use with your design summit planning16:24
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SlickNikSounds good — Do we know as yet which day the slots will likely be?16:25
ttxSlickNik: let me check16:25
ttxThusrday16:26
ttxso that it doesn't conflict with your talk on Wed16:26
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SlickNikOkay, thanks. That makes it easy for me.16:27
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SlickNikgets*16:27
SlickNikThanks ttx!16:27
SlickNikTalk to you later this afternoon.16:28
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SergeyLukjanovttx, version bump to 2015.1 has been merged into sahara (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124959/18:59
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ttxSergeyLukjanov: ok, will tag rc1 tomorrow morning19:40
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