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| eglynn | ttx: knock, knock :) | 11:45 |
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| ttx | eglynn: hola | 11:46 |
| ttx | #startmeeting ptl_sync | 11:46 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 9 11:46:37 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 11:46 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 11:46 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ptl_sync' | 11:46 |
| ttx | #topic Ceilometer | 11:46 |
| eglynn | #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 11:46 |
| ttx | Are thos 3 blueprints the only FFEs you consider ? | 11:47 |
| * ttx parses the ML for any request | 11:47 | |
| eglynn | yes | 11:47 |
| ttx | ok let's go through them, top to bottom | 11:47 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/bigger-data-sql | 11:48 |
| ttx | how far are we on this one? | 11:48 |
| eglynn | the main patch to remornalize the resource schema is approved and working it way thru' the gate as we speak | 11:48 |
| eglynn | *remnormalize :) | 11:48 |
| ttx | ok, found it | 11:48 |
| ttx | is there any followup patch? | 11:49 |
| eglynn | the second patch to switch from sql-a ORM to sql-a core is still under review | 11:49 |
| eglynn | Mike Bayer (sql-a author) has helpfully chimed into the discussion | 11:49 |
| ttx | that would be https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113524/ ? | 11:49 |
| eglynn | yes | 11:50 |
| ttx | #info pending on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113524/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111313/ | 11:50 |
| eglynn | we need some further quantification of the performance gains, but it should be landable | 11:50 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/paas-event-format-for-ceilometer | 11:50 |
| ttx | what about this one | 11:50 |
| eglynn | approved, working its way thru the gain | 11:50 |
| eglynn | *thru the gate | 11:50 |
| eglynn | that's documentation only, non-controversial | 11:51 |
| ttx | ah ok | 11:51 |
| ttx | #info Doc-only | 11:51 |
| ttx | forgot about that | 11:51 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/ipmi-support | 11:51 |
| eglynn | impi-support is still the furthest away from landing | 11:51 |
| eglynn | Edwin is engaging with the reviews, but the TZ latency adds to the delay | 11:52 |
| ttx | that's the two reviews at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/ipmi-support,n,z ? | 11:52 |
| eglynn | last week I signalled that this one would be expected to land last of the 3 | 11:52 |
| eglynn | yes | 11:52 |
| ttx | #info https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/ipmi-support,n,z -- a bit far away still | 11:52 |
| ttx | ok, that looks in good shape | 11:52 |
| ttx | Ideally the SQL stuff would merge this week | 11:53 |
| eglynn | yep, agreed | 11:53 |
| ttx | the IMI stuff can wait until next Tuesday | 11:53 |
| ttx | IPMI* | 11:53 |
| eglynn | yes, that's fair | 11:53 |
| ttx | then we'll rediscuss it | 11:53 |
| eglynn | do you have a concrete date in mind for cutting RC1? | 11:53 |
| eglynn | ... or driven by actual progress in landing stuff? | 11:54 |
| ttx | not really... it's normally when you empty your release-critical bug list | 11:54 |
| eglynn | OK, got it | 11:54 |
| ttx | so you should target the "must fix before release" bugs to rc1 | 11:54 |
| ttx | then depending on how fast you burn that list, we adapt | 11:54 |
| ttx | ideally the RC1 would appear before the end of the month | 11:55 |
| ttx | but if everything looks good and you have no bugs, then it could appear next week, I guess | 11:55 |
| ttx | eglynn: about the design summit, one question | 11:55 |
| eglynn | right, I'll give the currently targetted bug list another trawl and punt anything non-critical that doesn't look like it's getting traction | 11:55 |
| eglynn | shoot | 11:55 |
| ttx | If we do meetup-style on the Friday, would you rather have one full day, or only half a day? | 11:55 |
| ttx | i.e. would half-a-day be sufficient ? | 11:56 |
| eglynn | I'd rather take the full day, even if folks are a bit zombie-ish by the afternoon | 11:56 |
| ttx | ok | 11:56 |
| eglynn | (seeing as the pod-time will otherwise be limited) | 11:56 |
| ttx | trying to do a trade-off between comfort and time | 11:56 |
| eglynn | is there an alternative event in mind for the Friday afternoon, or more an early finish? | 11:57 |
| ttx | you can spend time in other meetup rooms, or leave early | 11:57 |
| ttx | though some will get a Friday afternoon half-day, that's the nature of the game | 11:57 |
| eglynn | yeah, making it kinda optional like that would be fine | 11:57 |
| ttx | ok. Anything you'd like to discuss at meeting today? | 11:58 |
| eglynn | nope, I'm good | 11:58 |
| ttx | eglynn: cool, talk to you later! | 11:58 |
| eglynn | thank you for your time! | 11:58 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: ready when you are | 11:58 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, I'm here | 12:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, morning | 12:02 |
| ttx | #topic Sahara | 12:02 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/sahara/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 12:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://launchpad.net/sahara/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 12:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | oops | 12:03 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/edp-swift-trust-authentication | 12:03 |
| ttx | Is that all contained in https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/edp-swift-trust-authentication,n,z ? | 12:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, I think all CRs are on review for this blueprint | 12:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, I think so | 12:03 |
| ttx | and how is that going so far ? | 12:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, it's already working while manually testing | 12:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, and all patches have at least one +2 I think | 12:04 |
| ttx | so just needs to adjust tests ? | 12:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, yup | 12:05 |
| ttx | #info all in review @ https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/edp-swift-trust-authentication,n,z -- needs some tests tweaks but in good progress | 12:05 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/cluster-persist-sahara-configuration | 12:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | two other blueprints are very small and easy and both are on review | 12:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | the last one is re docs | 12:05 |
| ttx | is there more to it than https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/cluster-persist-sahara-configuration,n,z ? | 12:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | nope | 12:06 |
| ttx | #info https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/cluster-persist-sahara-configuration,n,z on track | 12:06 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/move-rest-samples-to-docs | 12:06 |
| ttx | #info doc only | 12:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | we just need to persist some internal versions for validation, cluster-persist-sahara-configuration is about it | 12:06 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: is that all your FFEs ? | 12:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | yup | 12:06 |
| ttx | OK, so I think they should all land before next Tuesday | 12:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ack, I think there will be no issues with it | 12:07 |
| ttx | ideally the tust delegation part before end of week | 12:07 |
| ttx | because it's a bit more disruptive | 12:07 |
| SergeyLukjanov | do we need some additional actions to obtain FFE or I could just mail to the ML with the list of granted FFEs? | 12:08 |
| ttx | no, you can email the list | 12:08 |
| ttx | so next question would be about the Design Summit -- would Sahara like to have a meetup-like thing on the Friday ? | 12:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, ack re FFEs | 12:09 |
| ttx | Do you think half-a-day would suffice ? Or would you rather have the full day ? Benefit to half-day is ability to participate to some others | 12:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, in addition to the slots on other day, or only friday slots/ | 12:09 |
| ttx | in addition to slots on Wed/Thu | 12:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, half of day is enough for sahara | 12:09 |
| ttx | ok, that way you can participate to the Infra/QA room | 12:10 |
| ttx | :) | 12:10 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: Anything you want to add to meeting agenda for today? | 12:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | just to ack - sahara will have some slots on wed/thu + we could have half day meetup like on friday? | 12:11 |
| ttx | yes. Current plan would be to have cross-project stuff on Tuesday, traditional slots scheduled on Wed/Thu and meetups on Friday | 12:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, ok, thx | 12:11 |
| ttx | there just will be less "traditional" slots available overall | 12:12 |
| ttx | since we have two days for all rather than 3 | 12:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, so, I think it'll be cool to have something meetup-like for sahara at friday in addition to the traditional stuff | 12:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, yeah, I understand | 12:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and a few new projects | 12:12 |
| ttx | yes, and limited space ! | 12:12 |
| ttx | my puzzle for the week, see if it can all fit | 12:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | heh, I'm sure you'll make the best schedule as always :) | 12:13 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: so basically when brainstorming sessions you need to see which can have a clear slot and schedule presence, and which could be solved in the Friday informal discussion | 12:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, got it | 12:14 |
| ttx | usually the ones you want external feedback on are better as scheduled slots | 12:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | yeah, to have them in publicly available schedule | 12:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and to have some fixed timing | 12:14 |
| ttx | project internal policies otoh are a good fit for Friday | 12:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | yup, I think we have several good topics for friday | 12:14 |
| ttx | also release objectives setting isa good topic for the Friday | 12:15 |
| ttx | anyway, talk to you later! | 12:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thank you! | 12:15 |
| ttx | dhellmann: ready when you are | 12:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, oh, I have one more q. | 12:16 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: sure, shhot | 12:16 |
| ttx | shoot* | 12:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, could we think oslo and migrate to oslo.XXX libs before the rc1? | 12:16 |
| dhellmann | ttx: good afternoon | 12:17 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: depends how disruptive the change is... it's generally a good thing to adopt a library before release... but some of those adoptions may refactor a bit too much code | 12:17 |
| ttx | so it's a case-by-case thing | 12:17 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, I think that's ok if it's mostly the import chaning CRs | 12:18 |
| ttx | dhellmann: opinion on that ^ ? | 12:18 |
| dhellmann | I would be conservative about that for now. Plan for K-1 adoptions of anything you aren't already using, unless you have a serious issue that means you need a fix in a lib. | 12:18 |
| dhellmann | and we do allow backporting fixes, too | 12:19 |
| dhellmann | to the incubator, that is | 12:19 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: does that answer your question? | 12:19 |
| ttx | "only if you really need to" ? | 12:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ack, for sahara we'll check do we really need to switch or sync oslo | 12:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, yup | 12:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, dhellmann, thx | 12:20 |
| ttx | #topic Oslo | 12:20 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 12:20 |
| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov: some of the libs might be just as easy to adopt as a sync, if you have to do that anyway, so let's talk when you figure out how far out of date you are | 12:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | dhellmann, ack | 12:21 |
| ttx | dhellmann: did we agree those graduate-* BPs should rather apear on the library project rather than on the -incubator? | 12:21 |
| ttx | If yes I can move them | 12:21 |
| ttx | or at least try | 12:21 |
| dhellmann | yes, that makes sense | 12:21 |
| dhellmann | I can move them after breakfast, too | 12:21 |
| ttx | I'm on it | 12:23 |
| ttx | That leaves us with... https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/next-juno | 12:23 |
| ttx | Some of those should probably be kilo at this point, right? | 12:24 |
| dhellmann | ttx: I set up the pylockfile project yesterday, too, so it looks like all of these blueprints can move out of the incubator project to their library project | 12:24 |
| ttx | dhellmann: ok, will do it once we are done | 12:24 |
| dhellmann | I'll talk to josh about the taskflow thing. The amqp 1 driver is in oslo.messaging now but there's work left to be done. I suppose we should split that one. | 12:25 |
| ttx | dhellmann: yeah | 12:25 |
| ttx | I should create kilo series and next-kilo there | 12:26 |
| dhellmann | the mysql driver one is blocked on a review in sqlalchemy-migrate, let me find that link | 12:26 |
| ttx | so that stuff can be moved out | 12:26 |
| dhellmann | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110611/ | 12:26 |
| dhellmann | I'll put the semver work for pbr in kilo at this point | 12:27 |
| dhellmann | I suppose that means moving the spec in oslo-specs, too | 12:27 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I'll create the kilo series so that you can do the cleanup | 12:27 |
| dhellmann | ok | 12:28 |
| ttx | any question on the juno release side ? | 12:28 |
| ttx | I think you have a good handle on all the lib releases now | 12:28 |
| ttx | did you clarify when we could cut proposed/juno? there were some fixes pending iirc | 12:29 |
| dhellmann | yeah, we have a list of things we'd like to merge, and I haven't checked them yet this morning | 12:29 |
| dhellmann | should be soon | 12:29 |
| ttx | dhellmann: ok, maybe track them using the -rc1 targeting | 12:30 |
| ttx | that will let you have a clean list of targets you have to complete before rc1 | 12:30 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I'll make sure there are bugs for those | 12:30 |
| ttx | and remove what's not a "need to have" fro the list | 12:30 |
| ttx | dhellmann: ok, last question, about the design summit | 12:30 |
| ttx | I hadn't planned an Oslo meetup on the Friday, since I think you should be covered with the cross-project stuff and the scheduled sessions... but did you want one ? | 12:31 |
| ttx | it's tricky because you may want to visit the other rooms | 12:32 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, we might use the pods that day | 12:32 |
| dhellmann | I think we'll have some things to decide that may take longer than the session slots | 12:32 |
| ttx | ok, so a smaller space could be enough | 12:33 |
| dhellmann | yeah, we probably only need room for a few of the cores to sit down together for those discussions | 12:33 |
| ttx | dhellmann: ok, that's good feedback. I originally planned to recover pod space to make an additional meetup room, but it might make sense to keep some around and pack more than one project in | 12:33 |
| dhellmann | oh, yeah, I assumed they would be available that day | 12:34 |
| ttx | dhellmann: ok, anything for the meeting today ? | 12:34 |
| dhellmann | we should tell folks that we're trying to have final library releases on 18 sept to give time for testing before the rest of the release candidates | 12:35 |
| dhellmann | I only really expect a couple of updates at this point | 12:35 |
| ttx | #info we're trying to have final library releases on 18 sept to give time for testing before the rest of the release candidates | 12:36 |
| dhellmann | otherwise, that's it | 12:36 |
| ttx | dhellmann: ok, maybe just re-mention it when I link to the log | 12:36 |
| dhellmann | ok | 12:36 |
| ttx | dhellmann: ok, thanks and talk to you later! | 12:36 |
| dhellmann | have a good afternoon! | 12:36 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: I think I have all of those bugs/bps updated | 13:21 |
| * ttx quicklooks | 13:23 | |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/next-juno | 13:23 |
| ttx | looks good | 13:25 |
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| mestery | ttx: I have our Neutron meeting from 1400-1500UTC today, can we move our 1:1 to immediately after that? | 13:39 |
| mestery | ttx: I can ping you in-channel if the neutron meeting ends early. | 13:39 |
| ttx | mestery: I'll be on a call then | 13:40 |
| ttx | mestery: we can do it now if that works better for you | 13:40 |
| mestery | ttx: OK, then lets just do it at our normal time and I'll multitask :) | 13:40 |
| mestery | ttx: I am about to get on a call with markmcclain now :) | 13:40 |
| ttx | hheh | 13:40 |
| mestery | ttx: I'll multitask, no issues, thanks! | 13:41 |
| ttx | mestery: my call may end early too. So maybe around 15:15 | 13:42 |
| mestery | ttx: Sure! Anytime after 1500 works for me, so ping me when you can. I've cleaned up RC1 LP now, it should be a quick sync. | 13:43 |
| ttx | jgriffith: around? | 14:07 |
| ttx | dolphm: ready when you are | 14:13 |
| dolphm | ttx: o/ | 14:15 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone | 14:16 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 14:16 |
| ttx | All FFEs done I see | 14:16 |
| dolphm | \o/ | 14:16 |
| ttx | you win! | 14:16 |
| ttx | (at the same time it's pretty sane that keystone is feature-complete first) | 14:16 |
| dolphm | ha, i'm not sure that's a good thing for the overall project | 14:16 |
| ttx | no other FFE request pending? | 14:17 |
| dolphm | we have two wishlist bugs in there, but that's all | 14:17 |
| dolphm | we're going to discuss in today's meeting if we want to pursue them in juno, or delay | 14:17 |
| ttx | ok | 14:17 |
| ttx | so at this point it's pretty simple... compile a list of release-critical bugs, get them assigned and fixed.. and we can tag and open Kilo | 14:18 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/juno-rc1 will be our target list. If you want to have "nice-to-haves" in the list, better use some tag | 14:19 |
| dolphm | we're still seeing our bug count creep up with new bugs being opened though, so it's probably going to next week before we start counting in the right direction | 14:19 |
| ttx | like "juno-rc-potential" or whatever | 14:19 |
| dolphm | alright, we have a lot of those :) | 14:19 |
| ttx | sure, the list should evolve over time anyway | 14:19 |
| ttx | you can also just get the nice-to-have bugfixes in without necessarily make a list of them | 14:19 |
| ttx | ok, questions on RC1? | 14:20 |
| dolphm | what's the target date for RC's? | 14:20 |
| dolphm | final RCs / release, i mean | 14:20 |
| ttx | "when the buglist is empty." | 14:21 |
| ttx | ideally before the end of the month obviously | 14:21 |
| ttx | so we'll aggressively refine the list as we go | 14:21 |
| dolphm | ack | 14:21 |
| ttx | I'd say two weeks from now is a good time | 14:21 |
| ttx | For the design summit, as you know we are considering meetup-like space for the friday. Do you think you'll need half a day or would prefer to have a full day ? | 14:21 |
| dolphm | would a half day be only afternoon? | 14:22 |
| ttx | yes, could be | 14:22 |
| dolphm | i'd be fine with a half day - i imagine we'll be doing more reviews than anything else | 14:23 |
| ttx | ok | 14:23 |
| dolphm | i'm not strongly opinionated either way though | 14:23 |
| dolphm | sounds like a useful schedule change either way | 14:23 |
| ttx | I need to see how much spaces we need | 14:23 |
| ttx | so I can work on layout | 14:23 |
| dolphm | cool | 14:23 |
| ttx | so more people asking for half-days means better spaces :) | 14:24 |
| ttx | obviously big projects like Nova and Neutron wil use the full day anyway | 14:24 |
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| ttx | david-lyle: o. | 14:30 |
| david-lyle | ttx: o/ | 14:31 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon | 14:31 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 14:31 |
| ttx | david-lyle: is that a complete list of the FFEs under consideration? | 14:32 |
| * ttx crosschecks with ML | 14:32 | |
| david-lyle | one was proposed on mailing list | 14:32 |
| david-lyle | going to ask in an hour for another sponser | 14:32 |
| ttx | "Support of Cinder QOS Specs in Horizon" ? | 14:32 |
| david-lyle | 1 owner, 1 sponsor so far | 14:32 |
| david-lyle | yes | 14:32 |
| ttx | let's see if we have room for it | 14:33 |
| ttx | let's go over those in your list | 14:33 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/neutron-subnet-mode-support | 14:33 |
| david-lyle | sure | 14:33 |
| ttx | how is that one going? | 14:33 |
| ttx | all patches I can find seem merged | 14:33 |
| david-lyle | I need a status update, in an hour as to where support in the client is at | 14:34 |
| ttx | ok, might just actually be finished? | 14:34 |
| david-lyle | and determine if we need a client release or not | 14:34 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/tagging | 14:34 |
| david-lyle | there are 3 related bps | 14:35 |
| david-lyle | that is one of them | 14:35 |
| david-lyle | around the new meta-data catalog feature in glance | 14:35 |
| ttx | + nova-metadata-flavors + nova-metadata-aggregates ? | 14:35 |
| david-lyle | yes | 14:35 |
| david-lyle | these are in good shape and have been previously reviewed | 14:36 |
| ttx | how are they collectively coming up ? They sound a bit far away still | 14:36 |
| ttx | How much time do you see them collectively take? | 14:36 |
| david-lyle | we were just waiting on the client to release and a requirements bump | 14:36 |
| david-lyle | that happened yesterday | 14:36 |
| david-lyle | I hope to start merging them later today | 14:36 |
| ttx | #info this one is related to nova-metadata-flavors and nova-metadata-aggregates | 14:37 |
| david-lyle | this one has been on our radar for a while and new we were going to be time constrained due to the larger process | 14:37 |
| ttx | david-lyle: ok, so ideally they would be all in by the end of the week? | 14:37 |
| david-lyle | I feel confident about them landing by sometime Fri | 14:37 |
| ttx | (all related 3) | 14:37 |
| ttx | ok | 14:37 |
| david-lyle | yes | 14:37 |
| ttx | That means you still have "room" for another one if you have core support for it | 14:38 |
| david-lyle | the QOS proposal contains 3 patches that haven't landed | 14:38 |
| ttx | what is their current state? | 14:38 |
| david-lyle | yeah, I need more core support | 14:38 |
| david-lyle | they have had a few reviews, but not the same level of scrutiny as the meta-data patches | 14:39 |
| ttx | how about we add it to the RC1 list, as "Deferred", so that we keep track of it ? When you finally decide, you can either put status back to "Needs code review", or remove the milestone target | 14:39 |
| david-lyle | ok | 14:39 |
| ttx | ok, that looks good. | 14:40 |
| ttx | we'll make more drastic cuts next week if any are still open | 14:40 |
| david-lyle | sure | 14:40 |
| ttx | david-lyle: other questions on RC1? | 14:40 |
| david-lyle | estimate for a target date? | 14:41 |
| ttx | as soon as your targeted bug list is empty | 14:41 |
| ttx | ideally in two weeks, in all cases before the end of the month | 14:41 |
| david-lyle | ok, just wanted the window | 14:41 |
| david-lyle | we have a lot of it would be nice bugs, but less that we can't live without | 14:42 |
| ttx | the window is already opened, but I don't see the first ones happening before mid-Sept | 14:42 |
| david-lyle | sounds reasonable | 14:42 |
| ttx | david-lyle: about design summit -- we may be able to set up meetup-like space for the Friday. Would Horizon need a full day of informal discussions, or would half a day be enough ? | 14:43 |
| ttx | (so that you can actually participate a bit to others meetups if you want to see what is coming your way) | 14:43 |
| david-lyle | that would be in addition to how many more formalized slots? | 14:44 |
| ttx | that would be in addition to "less" scheduled slots. | 14:44 |
| ttx | since we would have two days instead of 3 for those | 14:44 |
| * ttx checks numbers | 14:44 | |
| david-lyle | I imagine a half-day would by enough, especially if we have the pods or other informal meeting areas | 14:45 |
| ttx | in ATL you had 7 sessions, so in Paris you would have 4-5 scheduled sessions and at least half a day of unscheduled time | 14:45 |
| ttx | to address "all other business" | 14:45 |
| david-lyle | ttx: that sounds good | 14:46 |
| ttx | cool. All depends how much time you need to reach alignment | 14:46 |
| ttx | I think Horizon team is pretty well aligned generally | 14:46 |
| david-lyle | typically | 14:47 |
| ttx | david-lyle: ok, that's all I had -- anything you want to discuss at meeting tonight ? Any red flag ? | 14:47 |
| david-lyle | I think we're set now that the glanceclient has released | 14:47 |
| david-lyle | no blockers | 14:47 |
| david-lyle | thanks! | 14:48 |
| ttx | david-lyle: cool; thx | 14:51 |
| ttx | jgriffith: still not around? | 14:51 |
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| mestery | ttx: Ready and waiting, ping when your call is complete. | 15:05 |
| ttx | mestery: ack | 15:07 |
| mestery | ttx: \o/ | 15:08 |
| ttx | mestery: probably in 10min | 15:09 |
| mestery | ttx: OK, ping me here, I may step out for a bit while waiting. We'll connect soon though :) | 15:09 |
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| jgriffith | ttx: still here | 15:28 |
| ttx | mestery: I'll ping you when I have a hole in my schedule | 15:28 |
| ttx | jgriffith: ok, let me cover swift first | 15:28 |
| mestery | ttx: Ack | 15:28 |
| ttx | notmyname: around? | 15:28 |
| notmyname | ttx: hi! | 15:29 |
| ttx | #topic Swift | 15:29 |
| ttx | notmyname: how is your next release coming up? | 15:29 |
| notmyname | ttx: for project scheduling, we're still on for oct 6 for the RC, with the final on oct 16 for the integrated release | 15:30 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/next-juno | 15:30 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews | 15:30 |
| notmyname | that has a section for current open patches that I'm looking at to land for juno | 15:30 |
| ttx | I'm a bit worried on the timing | 15:31 |
| notmyname | oh yeah? | 15:31 |
| ttx | maybe have a small safety buffer and plan RC earlier? | 15:31 |
| notmyname | because of the length of the RC or because of getting stuff in for the RC? | 15:32 |
| ttx | getting stuff in on the RC | 15:32 |
| ttx | I guess we could shorten the RC baking period | 15:32 |
| ttx | i.e. if last patch lands on Oct 8 it's not really a showstopper | 15:33 |
| notmyname | we've got four weeks until the RC. I'm not too worried abotu getting those listed patches in master in that timeframe. they've all been in progress for a while | 15:33 |
| ttx | notmyname: ok, if it's not too busy, Iguess it works | 15:33 |
| notmyname | and, like you, I'm also ok with targeting the 6th and slipping a couple of days if necessary | 15:33 |
| ttx | I just want to avoid an unpleasant plan B where we'd ship the previous release in Juno final :) | 15:34 |
| notmyname | of course. I find that highly unlikely :-) | 15:34 |
| ttx | ok! | 15:34 |
| notmyname | I'd prefer to cut a release sooner with some of those missing before doing that :-) | 15:34 |
| ttx | anything else you wanted to mention? | 15:35 |
| notmyname | any other thoughts on doing any gap analysis follow-up before paris? | 15:35 |
| ttx | notmyname: maybe we could try to squeeze it in one of the last TC meetings before reelection | 15:36 |
| notmyname | also, I'm not too happy that the defcore group asked for designated sections feedback, and I gave it, and they didn't update their proposed havana sections | 15:36 |
| ttx | notmyname: you probably didn't give the right feedback! | 15:36 |
| notmyname | heh. I said their list was good! | 15:36 |
| notmyname | ttx: ok, no real worries on the TC front. if there's time, I'd love to get a feel for things before paris, just to make sure the in-person things are time-efficient | 15:37 |
| ttx | there are new meetings this week, if you want to get that remark on the record | 15:37 |
| ttx | notmyname: I understand that | 15:37 |
| ttx | notmyname: about design summit and the Friday meetup-like setup; would you rather have a full day or would a half-day be enough ? | 15:37 |
| ttx | It's a bit of a two-edged sword | 15:38 |
| notmyname | that meetup-like setup would be self-scheduled by who's there? | 15:38 |
| ttx | yes | 15:38 |
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| notmyname | ie kinda like a mid-cycle meetup | 15:38 |
| ttx | yes | 15:38 |
| notmyname | is that the only time we'd have to meet as swift contributors? | 15:39 |
| notmyname | formally | 15:39 |
| ttx | there would be pods, but I doubt we ca, make space for one pod per project | 15:39 |
| ttx | so the pods would be reusable | 15:39 |
| notmyname | ok | 15:39 |
| ttx | i.e. you would claim a table as your pod by putting your sign on it | 15:40 |
| ttx | not sure that will scale perfectly | 15:40 |
| ttx | in general, full day probably means less scheduled time, more unscheduled time. | 15:40 |
| notmyname | and the other scheduled sessions on wed and thurs are for cross-project stuff? | 15:40 |
| ttx | I still have to build a layout | 15:40 |
| ttx | no. Tuesday for cross project, wed.thu our traditional scheduled sessions (just less of them) and Friday unscheduled time | 15:41 |
| ttx | (will appear on schedule as "swift contributors meetup" | 15:41 |
| notmyname | ah ok | 15:41 |
| notmyname | so does each program get some scheduled time on wed.thurs? | 15:41 |
| ttx | yes | 15:41 |
| notmyname | ah ok | 15:41 |
| ttx | just expect ~30% less, maybe more if you pick the full-day option | 15:42 |
| notmyname | obviously the less time at the summit makes mid-cycle meetups more important | 15:42 |
| ttx | agre | 15:42 |
| ttx | e | 15:42 |
| notmyname | but it seems that if there are already some scheduled sessions, plus the ad-hoc pods, a half-day on friday would probably be a good place to start | 15:43 |
| ttx | you don't have to decide now, I just want to build a proposal based on this informal poll | 15:43 |
| ttx | (proposal = room layout) | 15:43 |
| ttx | ok, anything you want to discuss at meeting later today? | 15:44 |
| notmyname | my cross-project questions are around defcore and gap analysis and paris scheduling. so no :-) | 15:44 |
| ttx | ok, thanks! | 15:44 |
| ttx | zaneb: around? | 15:44 |
| zaneb | howdy | 15:44 |
| ttx | #topic Heat | 15:44 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 15:45 |
| ttx | zaneb: hi! I'd like to have a quick look at the Heat FFEs | 15:45 |
| zaneb | yes, good idea | 15:45 |
| zaneb | we seem to have rather a lot :/ | 15:45 |
| ttx | zaneb: is the list on the rc1 page complete ? | 15:45 |
| * ttx crosschecks with ML | 15:45 | |
| zaneb | I sure hope so :D | 15:45 |
| zaneb | there were none requested on the ML that I saw | 15:46 |
| ttx | ok, so yes, 7 is a lot | 15:46 |
| ttx | especially as none of those is finalized yet, so they were probably not "technical" FFEs that just needed a few more days to fight the gate | 15:46 |
| ttx | let's visit them | 15:47 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/deployment-multiple-servers | 15:47 |
| ttx | all patches merged @ https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/deployment-multiple-servers,n,z | 15:47 |
| ttx | anything more coming? | 15:47 |
| zaneb | not that I know of | 15:47 |
| zaneb | I'd have to check with stevebaker why he hasn't marked it complete already | 15:48 |
| zaneb | but this one I'm pretty comfortable with as a FFE | 15:48 |
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| ttx | ok | 15:49 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/cancel-update-stack | 15:49 |
| ttx | this one seems to struggle a lot | 15:49 |
| zaneb | yeah, this one is questionable | 15:49 |
| zaneb | the good news is that it's a new feature and won't break any other features if you don't use it | 15:50 |
| ttx | why is it something you really need to have in the release ? | 15:50 |
| zaneb | but I fear it will be buggy if merged | 15:50 |
| zaneb | it's a big deal for e.g. TripleO | 15:50 |
| ttx | looks like a good candidate for not having an FFE | 15:51 |
| zaneb | yeah, I agree | 15:51 |
| ttx | well, they can start using it early in kilo | 15:51 |
| ttx | they are not bound by releases | 15:51 |
| zaneb | yep, they are trunck chasing anyway | 15:51 |
| zaneb | trunk | 15:51 |
| ttx | so if tripleO is the main consumer, that can wait kilo alright | 15:51 |
| ttx | shall I target it to kilo-1 and shall you -2 those patches temporarily ? | 15:51 |
| ttx | that will certainly increase the chances of the others ;) | 15:52 |
| zaneb | yep, let's retarget it | 15:52 |
| ttx | ok done | 15:53 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/action-aware-sw-config | 15:53 |
| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/action-aware-sw-config,n,z | 15:53 |
| ttx | also a long patchseries -- any reason why we want it in release rather than after? | 15:53 |
| zaneb | I'm not aware of a particular driver | 15:54 |
| ttx | I'm ok with it if you think it can fully merge by the end of the week | 15:54 |
| zaneb | other than that this was supposed to be a major feature for Juno | 15:55 |
| zaneb | I think that may be possible | 15:55 |
| ttx | yeah, which is why it needs some decent testing period | 15:55 |
| ttx | ok, we'll revisit next week if it's not in yet | 15:55 |
| zaneb | it mostly missed because Thomas was on vacation near the end of the cycle, and so not able to respond to some fairly minor comments | 15:55 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/troubleshooting-low-level-control | 15:55 |
| zaneb | IIRC it looks pretty solid | 15:55 |
| ttx | hmm, not sure which review it hinges on | 15:56 |
| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/troubleshooting-low-level-control,n,z has 3 abandoned links | 15:56 |
| zaneb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109284/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109042/ | 15:57 |
| ttx | ,pt the others on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1224828,n,z ? | 15:57 |
| ttx | not* | 15:57 |
| zaneb | the others are the client support | 15:57 |
| ttx | ah right | 15:57 |
| zaneb | which are obviously necessary, but not tied to this release cycle | 15:58 |
| ttx | yes, looks pretty solid, let's give it a week | 15:58 |
| zaneb | ok | 15:58 |
| ttx | improving debuggability definitely helps | 15:58 |
| zaneb | I'd say it's fairly solid but not critical for Juno | 15:58 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/functional-tests | 15:58 |
| ttx | that's probably not affected by FFE, as it's only testing? | 15:58 |
| zaneb | this could almost be moved to ongoing | 15:59 |
| ttx | hmm, good idea | 15:59 |
| ttx | ok moved | 15:59 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/implement-ec2eip-updatable | 15:59 |
| ttx | Only https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118562/ left? | 16:00 |
| zaneb | looks like it, and it already got approved once | 16:01 |
| ttx | ok, let's keep it then | 16:01 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/handle-update-for-security-groups | 16:01 |
| ttx | 2 reviews left @ https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/handle-update-for-security-groups,n,z | 16:02 |
| ttx | looks pretty close too | 16:02 |
| ttx | let's keep it for another week? | 16:02 |
| zaneb | yep | 16:02 |
| zaneb | agree | 16:02 |
| ttx | Those two "low" priority ones, would be better if they merged before the end of the week, rather than before next Tuesday | 16:02 |
| ttx | just so that we get them off to testing | 16:03 |
| zaneb | yeah, hopefully we can get them through the gate quickly | 16:03 |
| zaneb | I will try to review them myself today | 16:03 |
| ttx | zaneb: I think Heat could use a full day of meetup-like space on the Design Summit Friday. Is that your opinion too ? | 16:03 |
| zaneb | yeah, we would definitely use it if we can get it :) | 16:04 |
| zaneb | plenty of things to talk about | 16:04 |
| ttx | yep | 16:04 |
| ttx | ok, anything for the meeting later? | 16:04 |
| zaneb | don't think so | 16:04 |
| ttx | ok, talk to you later then | 16:04 |
| zaneb | thanks o/ | 16:05 |
| ttx | jgriffith: still around? | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | ttx: yup | 16:05 |
| ttx | #topic Cinder | 16:05 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 16:05 |
| ttx | So I think I saw quite a few other requests on the list | 16:05 |
| ttx | those are the ones we already granted on technicalities iirc | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | ttx: you did, frankly my response has been pack sand | 16:05 |
| ttx | how are those SMB ones going ? | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | ttx: other core members however are a bit less jaded | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | I think they're going to finally go today | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | If we can just get them through Gate | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | it's been a bit of a struggle | 16:06 |
| ttx | ok, let's keep them then | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | yeah, I def feel fine with those | 16:06 |
| * ttx has a quick look for the cinder FFE requests on the ML | 16:06 | |
| jgriffith | ttx: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-cinder-approved-ffes | 16:07 |
| jgriffith | ttx: a "hopefully" consolidated list | 16:07 |
| jgriffith | All vendor/driver *features* | 16:07 |
| jgriffith | I've been pretty harsh, maybe I shouldn't be | 16:07 |
| ttx | how ready are they? | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | so to be fair their pretty close | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | and rather simple | 16:08 |
| ttx | I'm fine with 2/3 more if they can land this week | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | the only one that's new is Duncan't backup state reset | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | ttx: My cutoff is this week for features regardless | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | I seem to be much more literal about Freeze than anybody else | 16:09 |
| ttx | maybe pick 2/3 that are self-contained | 16:09 |
| ttx | backup state reset doesn't sound self-contained | 16:09 |
| jgriffith | yeah, that's the only "new" one | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | I suppose since he started that back in Aug I can have some sympathy, but I don't think it's that "important" | 16:10 |
| ttx | I'm fine with not accepting any, too. After all we had feature freeze and they missed it by more than a finger | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | I'll talk with Duncan and see why he ranks t | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | yeah, it's one thing when it's a day or two | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | but we're defeating the point now :( | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | IMO | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | anyway.... | 16:11 |
| ttx | none of those *needs* to be in | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | Nope, not a one | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | I'm fine with giving inflight items til Friday | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | to Merge | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | after that I'm done | 16:12 |
| ttx | so I'm fine with 0-3, I'd prefer to stick to the self-contained ones, and in all cases Friday is the last day | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | I have features for my driver I'd love to put in, but ain't happening | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | ttx: agreed, I'll have a look at backup state change and decide today | 16:12 |
| jgriffith | Unless there's feedback that alot of people are having "stuck" jobs I don't see it as justified | 16:13 |
| ttx | next question - about the design summit Friday "contributors meetup" space. Would you rather have half a day of Cinder meetup (in addition to regular scheduled sessions), or a full day ? | 16:13 |
| ttx | jgriffith: some people have been complaining that Cinder is always on the last day, so those may prefer the half-day option | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | by Friday, probably a half day :) | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | yeah, I get a lot of feedback about the Friday thing for some reason | 16:14 |
| ttx | ok, I'll try to place you in the morning, and give a decent number of "scheduled" slots | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | ttx: let's do the 1/2 day option | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | ok, great | 16:14 |
| ttx | anything to add to meeting agenda for tonight? | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | nope, just plugging along | 16:14 |
| ttx | jgriffith: awesome! thanks for your time. | 16:15 |
| ttx | SlickNik: around? | 16:15 |
| SlickNik | o/ | 16:15 |
| ttx | #topic Trove | 16:15 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | ttx: thank you! | 16:15 |
| ttx | is the oslo.messaging migration your last open FFE ? | 16:15 |
| SlickNik | Yes, that's the only one we've got left. | 16:16 |
| ttx | how is it going ? | 16:16 |
| SlickNik | Checked in with Sergey, and amrith and they're on track to get it done by end of this week. | 16:16 |
| ttx | SlickNik: ok, sounds good | 16:17 |
| SlickNik | I'll be checking in on the work again tomorrow to make sure things are going as planned (and to see where I can help as needed). | 16:18 |
| ttx | ok. Any question on final release process ? | 16:19 |
| SlickNik | Nope, | 16:21 |
| SlickNik | Mentioned this to you last week, but just wanted to remind you: we'd like to use a specs repo going forward in Kilo, so I'm going to be doing the infra work to get that set up this week. | 16:21 |
| ttx | ok | 16:22 |
| ttx | SlickNik: as far as design summit goes, I think Trove could opt for a half-day of contributors meetup | 16:22 |
| ttx | since you aren't that many, convergence is not that hard to obtain? | 16:23 |
| SlickNik | ttx: It depends on the issues, but a half day should be okay I think. How many sessions would that give us to work with? | 16:23 |
| ttx | I still have to check the numbers | 16:24 |
| SlickNik | (Some issues are more contentious than others) | 16:24 |
| ttx | that would result in more time overall | 16:24 |
| ttx | you would have anumber of scheduled slots, then a half-day for the more informal discussion | 16:24 |
| SlickNik | Ah, gotcha. Yes, I think that would be fine. | 16:25 |
| ttx | Something like 4 scheduled slots and a half-day of meetup | 16:25 |
| ttx | ok, thanks | 16:25 |
| ttx | anything you want to discuss at cross-project meeting today? | 16:25 |
| SlickNik | Nothing in particular — that's all I had. | 16:26 |
| ttx | mestery: would you be available around 19:30 UTC? | 16:26 |
| * ttx could use a break now | 16:26 | |
| ttx | SlickNik: thx! | 16:26 |
| mestery | ttx: Yes! | 16:26 |
| mestery | ttx: I'll be here, thanks! | 16:26 |
| ttx | mestery: ok, see you then :) | 16:26 |
| SlickNik | ttx: thank you! Talk to you later. :) | 16:27 |
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| ttx | mestery: around? | 19:28 |
| mestery | ttx: o/ | 19:28 |
| ttx | #topic Neutron | 19:28 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 19:28 |
| ttx | 7 left open | 19:29 |
| mestery | Yes | 19:29 |
| mestery | Status on each one quickly perhaps? | 19:29 |
| ttx | yes please | 19:29 |
| mestery | L3 HA is very close, I have at least two cores focused on it and they expect it to land before Friday. | 19:29 |
| mestery | ipset has two patches left, one of which is a functional test. I expect that one to land by Thursday | 19:30 |
| mestery | retarbetable functional testing is being iterated tomorrow, the author thinks it can land soon as well. I tend to agree. | 19:30 |
| mestery | FWaaS and DVR: 3 cores covering it, I believe it should be in the queue tomorrow as well. | 19:30 |
| mestery | Plugin specific migrations: Realistically with this one we're going to land one of the patches there and then move it out of Juno and the rest can land in Kilo. | 19:31 |
| mestery | L3 metering: This one should be in the queue tomorrow. | 19:31 |
| mestery | Resource autodeletion: It's in the queue now (may have merged, will check once status is done) | 19:31 |
| mestery | And that's it. | 19:31 |
| mestery | The other 4 merged | 19:31 |
| mestery | all low priority | 19:31 |
| ttx | hmm, ok. I think that's doable and will have limited impact | 19:32 |
| mestery | Cool! | 19:32 |
| mestery | I've worked hard with the neutron cores to make it have as minimal distruption as possible | 19:32 |
| ttx | obviously next week we'd reconsider, in case they take longer than expected | 19:32 |
| ttx | because everybody needs to switch to bugfixes asap | 19:32 |
| mestery | Exactly | 19:33 |
| mestery | We're heavy on those as well | 19:33 |
| ttx | mestery: any topic for the meeting today? | 19:33 |
| mestery | The team has been working on bugs in paralle | 19:33 |
| mestery | parallel | 19:33 |
| mestery | Nothing at this time no | 19:33 |
| ttx | ok, I think you are covered then | 19:33 |
| mestery | Thanks ttx! | 19:33 |
| ttx | markwash__: around? | 19:33 |
| markwash__ | ttx: ish! | 19:33 |
| ttx | markwash__: time for a quick Glance status? | 19:34 |
| markwash__ | yup | 19:34 |
| ttx | #topic Glance | 19:34 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 19:34 |
| ttx | So that's two already on the map, from j3 | 19:34 |
| ttx | + a boatload proposed on the ML | 19:34 |
| markwash__ | yeah, but I think they landed | 19:34 |
| * ttx cheks | 19:34 | |
| markwash__ | it looks like we're missing the two flavio did in that list (which also have landed) | 19:35 |
| markwash__ | I think we're done with FFE once I update the list | 19:35 |
| ttx | async-glance-workers seem to still be open | 19:35 |
| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85211/ ? | 19:36 |
| markwash__ | yeah I thought that one isn't really intended for juno at this point, however | 19:36 |
| markwash__ | I'll clarify with the bp owner in a little bit | 19:36 |
| ttx | so there are two that are donce and should be added to list? | 19:37 |
| ttx | done* | 19:37 |
| markwash__ | yes, searching | 19:37 |
| ttx | [3] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/create-store-package | 19:37 |
| ttx | [4] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/restartable-image-download | 19:37 |
| ttx | ? | 19:37 |
| markwash__ | yes | 19:38 |
| markwash__ | check juno-rc1 again | 19:38 |
| markwash__ | at this point we're just down to bug fixes and cleanup, but none are specifically targeted yet | 19:39 |
| ttx | ok | 19:39 |
| markwash__ | we have a bug day on thursday | 19:39 |
| markwash__ | that will focus on cleanup and triaging critical bugs | 19:39 |
| ttx | what about the FFEs requested for refactoring-glance-logging and use-common-service-framework ? | 19:39 |
| ttx | I think it's too late for refactoring personally | 19:39 |
| markwash__ | use-common-service-framework was deferred | 19:39 |
| markwash__ | ttx: the glance logging change seemed kind of minor to me | 19:40 |
| ttx | looking into it | 19:40 |
| markwash__ | it is basically just adjusting levels and using the correct internationalization routines in more places | 19:40 |
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| markwash__ | ttx: but I"m not sure if that messes with string freeze ? | 19:40 |
| ttx | ok, let's add it then | 19:40 |
| markwash__ | +1 | 19:40 |
| ttx | done | 19:40 |
| ttx | i'll let you reply to him | 19:41 |
| ttx | so async-processing, should we just move it out ? | 19:41 |
| ttx | you said "that one isn't really intended for juno at this point" | 19:41 |
| markwash__ | I'd like to pressure folks to split that bp into "what was done in juno" and what remains | 19:41 |
| markwash__ | so that we have a clear picture | 19:42 |
| ttx | markwash__: ok, let's do that | 19:42 |
| markwash__ | I think that means we can mark it as completed for juno-rc1 and open a new spec/bp for klieber | 19:42 |
| ttx | #info async-glance-workers to be split between completed and todo parts | 19:42 |
| ttx | ok done | 19:43 |
| ttx | markwash__: that is all. talk to you later! | 19:43 |
| markwash__ | great, thanks ttx! | 19:43 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 19:45 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 9 19:45:57 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-09-09-11.46.html | 19:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-09-09-11.46.txt | 19:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-09-09-11.46.log.html | 19:46 |
| ttx | mikal, johnthetubaguy: how about we do our sync at 08:00UTC tomorrow? (mikal: that should be at the end of your today if my TZ math is correct) | 19:48 |
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| mikal | ttx: sure, I can do that | 19:59 |
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| ttx | mikal: ok, see you then | 19:59 |
| ttx | or maybe after the release meeting if it's cut short | 19:59 |
| ttx | and I have some energy left | 19:59 |
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| mikal | Sure | 20:52 |
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| ttx | mikal: got time now ? | 21:24 |
| mikal | Yes | 21:24 |
| ttx | #startmeeting ptl_sync | 21:24 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 9 21:24:51 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:24 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:24 |
| ttx | #topic Nova | 21:24 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ptl_sync' | 21:24 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 21:24 |
| ttx | is that list complete with all approvals? | 21:25 |
| mikal | I beleive so | 21:25 |
| mikal | I ahven't checked in the last 24 hours, but it was before | 21:26 |
| mikal | It should also be mostly accurate for implementation status too | 21:26 |
| ttx | and you set a deadline for those last Friday, so new ones should be ignored anyway | 21:26 |
| ttx | still on track to close them all by Friday? | 21:26 |
| mikal | Yep | 21:26 |
| mikal | Its hard to tell | 21:26 |
| mikal | The gate is painful | 21:26 |
| mikal | I can see two which need more dev work | 21:26 |
| mikal | And the rest need the gate to agree | 21:26 |
| mikal | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-nova-approved-ffes is our summary of review state | 21:27 |
| mikal | So, looking at that | 21:27 |
| mikal | virt-driver-name-placement is at risk | 21:27 |
| ttx | mikal: if they are gating now and don't get in by Friday I'm fine with giving them extra time :) | 21:27 |
| mikal | As is server-group-quotas | 21:27 |
| mikal | And SRIOV | 21:27 |
| mikal | ttx: yeah, I figured we'd sneak them in | 21:27 |
| ttx | OK, if you see that they are not getting in in time, defer them early rather than late | 21:27 |
| mikal | Sounds sensible | 21:28 |
| ttx | i.e. if they are not approved by Thursday... or gating by Friday... | 21:28 |
| mikal | It is probably a good idea for me to email -dev and remind people to be focussing on these | 21:28 |
| ttx | probably simpler to just defer them | 21:28 |
| ttx | because otherwise they will still be in progress by mid next-week | 21:28 |
| mikal | Agreed | 21:29 |
| ttx | especially if some of those are patchseries | 21:29 |
| ttx | those can take a long time | 21:29 |
| mikal | Yeah, gating is painful for those | 21:29 |
| ttx | So, we'll see how it goes at the end of the week | 21:30 |
| ttx | quick discussion on design summit | 21:30 |
| mikal | There is also one important bug on my radar as I mentioned in email | 21:30 |
| mikal | The ironic driver as landed does not work | 21:30 |
| mikal | There is already a fix out for review | 21:30 |
| ttx | oh, ok | 21:30 |
| mikal | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119944/ | 21:30 |
| mikal | Ahhh, it got approved while I slept | 21:30 |
| mikal | In the gate now | 21:30 |
| ttx | I think you'll want a full day of meetup on the Friday | 21:30 |
| mikal | Sorry, at the summit you mean? | 21:31 |
| ttx | yes | 21:31 |
| mikal | So, there are four summit days, yes? | 21:31 |
| ttx | on the Tuesday you have cross-project stuff | 21:31 |
| ttx | that leaves Wed/Thu | 21:31 |
| mikal | How does that compare with Atlanta, its the same number of slots right? | 21:32 |
| ttx | where my original plan was to give you two full days of scheduled slots | 21:32 |
| ttx | yes | 21:32 |
| mikal | Ahhh, two days not three? | 21:32 |
| ttx | well, the third is replaced by the meetup, so same time together | 21:32 |
| mikal | Holdup | 21:32 |
| mikal | I'm confused now | 21:32 |
| mikal | What is the meetup? | 21:32 |
| ttx | ok, /me rewinds | 21:32 |
| ttx | on the wed/Thu we'll have traditional slots | 21:33 |
| mikal | Ok | 21:33 |
| ttx | i.e. 40-min, with a predetermiend theme and present on schedule | 21:33 |
| ttx | on the Friday, all teams will have a half-day or a full-day "contributors meetup" | 21:33 |
| ttx | that's a big block of time that they can organize how they see fit | 21:34 |
| ttx | usually with an etherpad full of themes to discuss | 21:34 |
| ttx | midcycle-meetup style | 21:34 |
| ttx | no "slots", no 40-min bell | 21:34 |
| mikal | Ahhh, cool | 21:34 |
| mikal | Ok | 21:34 |
| mikal | In that case I've changed my mind | 21:34 |
| mikal | And I want all the slots I can get on the two non-meetup days | 21:34 |
| ttx | ok | 21:34 |
| mikal | If we didn't have the meetup I'd want to spread them out over the three days | 21:35 |
| mikal | But that doesn't sound like an option here | 21:35 |
| ttx | Ideally you would use the Friday to get alignment on a Kilo plan | 21:35 |
| ttx | and solve "team problems" | 21:35 |
| mikal | I think that's a good idea | 21:36 |
| ttx | but it's really up to you, and can change at last minute | 21:36 |
| mikal | I just somehow missed that it was the plan | 21:36 |
| ttx | let's say it was just a thought, but I talked with our event partner and it may actually be possible | 21:36 |
| ttx | we'll need to revamp the space between Thursday and Friday | 21:36 |
| mikal | Ahhh yeah | 21:36 |
| mikal | Tables and stuff instead of just 200 chairs | 21:36 |
| mikal | Fair enough | 21:37 |
| ttx | so that there are a lot of parallel spaces, and tables | 21:37 |
| ttx | we might have LCDs to be able to show up stuff | 21:37 |
| ttx | rather than prjector/screen combos | 21:37 |
| mikal | And whiteboards? | 21:37 |
| mikal | Whiteboards would be good | 21:37 |
| ttx | actually the paperboards double as whiteboards. I asked that we have several of them | 21:38 |
| ttx | so you could in theory build a large whiteboard | 21:38 |
| mikal | LOLK | 21:38 |
| mikal | Ok | 21:38 |
| ttx | apparently large whiteboards would be difficult to se up | 21:38 |
| ttx | they don't really come with wheels | 21:39 |
| mikal | I could bring some wheels? | 21:39 |
| mikal | But either way, it sounds like we're agreed here and I should let you go home? | 21:39 |
| ttx | you should let me jump into my bed yes | 21:39 |
| ttx | thanks for your time! | 21:39 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:39 |
| mikal | NP | 21:39 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 9 21:39:57 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-09-09-21.24.html | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-09-09-21.24.txt | 21:40 |
| mikal | Thanks for staying up | 21:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-09-09-21.24.log.html | 21:40 |
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