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| notmyname | ttx: I will be available as close to our sync time as possible, but if I'm a few minutes late I'll preemptively blame SF Muni. but I will be online, and I've got a proposed rest-of-juno plan to go over with you | 05:12 |
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| ttx | notmyname: ack | 06:58 |
| mikal | ttx: we're on for a 1:1 in a minute? | 07:57 |
| * ttx grabs a coffee | 07:57 | |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: le ping | 07:57 |
| ttx | mikal: yes | 07:57 |
| mikal | Cool | 07:57 |
| ttx | ok | 08:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting ptl_sync | 08:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 19 08:01:24 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ptl_sync' | 08:01 |
| ttx | #topic Nova | 08:01 |
| mikal | Hi | 08:01 |
| ttx | hi! | 08:01 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/juno-3 | 08:01 |
| mikal | So, I emailed openstack-dev and mentioned in our meeting last week that we should be reviewing the high prio ones | 08:02 |
| mikal | There's been some review, but none have landed | 08:02 |
| mikal | The object ones look good to me | 08:02 |
| mikal | As does the ironic one | 08:02 |
| ttx | #info 3 implemented, 36 in review, 23 in progress, 10 not started/unknown | 08:02 |
| mikal | The scheduler one is going slow, as is vmware | 08:02 |
| ttx | Last week you had 2 Implemented, 33 under review, 27 in progress and 11 Not started/Unknown | 08:03 |
| mikal | Scheduler is slow because of review attention (or the lack of it) | 08:03 |
| mikal | VMWare is because minesweeper is broken | 08:03 |
| * mikal is confused that not-started has grown | 08:03 | |
| ttx | it went down by 1 | 08:03 |
| mikal | Oh, I see | 08:04 |
| mikal | Other order | 08:04 |
| ttx | yep | 08:04 |
| mikal | So, I am worried that we're not landing enough BPs | 08:04 |
| mikal | But I am unsure what else to do apart from personally reviewing all the code | 08:04 |
| ttx | maybe single out a few blueprints that are 99% there, in addition to High/Essential stuff? | 08:05 |
| ttx | do you feel like the call to focus on High prio worked? | 08:06 |
| mikal | To be honest no | 08:06 |
| mikal | Some got reviews | 08:06 |
| mikal | But it feels like thigns which were being reviewed already | 08:06 |
| mikal | I haven't generated any data on it though, its more an instinct | 08:06 |
| ttx | this week the focus is obviously on FPF which shall hit on Thursday | 08:07 |
| mikal | That's possibly true | 08:07 |
| mikal | People frantically finishing their own things instead of reviewing | 08:07 |
| ttx | theer are 33 blueprints that will disappear from the list at this point | 08:07 |
| mikal | Or will be finished in time... | 08:08 |
| mikal | Not all 33 will go away nessesarily | 08:08 |
| ttx | Maybe review prioritization will work better once we are past that | 08:08 |
| mikal | One can hope | 08:08 |
| mikal | I don't know if this is a new problem or not | 08:08 |
| mikal | But it feels like we're not focussing well | 08:08 |
| ttx | Do you think that blueprint proposers are well aware of the FPF deadline ? | 08:08 |
| mikal | Hmmm | 08:09 |
| mikal | I am sure they could do with another reminder | 08:09 |
| ttx | (if they are not they will pile up exception requests) | 08:09 |
| mikal | I will send out a reminder after this 1:1 | 08:09 |
| ttx | you can also clarify when "Thursday" will be | 08:10 |
| mikal | Yep, presumably midnight Thursday UTC | 08:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: ttx: morning | 08:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: I often choose midnight pacific | 08:12 |
| ttx | Also maybe contact (or have someone contact) the medium-prio blueprint holders that still don't have code proposed (there are 5 of them) to make sure they are aware of the deadline | 08:12 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: the trick is you want extra time on Friday to handle the inevitable exception requests | 08:12 |
| mikal | I can email them as well | 08:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: yes, good point | 08:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: are we deleting the specs too? | 08:13 |
| mikal | I'm also travelling Friday my time through the weekend | 08:13 |
| ttx | mikal: you seem in good shape FPF-wise if you look at the prioritized list -- most of the things that would fall off the map are Low | 08:13 |
| mikal | But I will tyr to keep on top of email as much as possible | 08:13 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: we talked about kilo specs in the release meeting last week | 08:13 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: the concensus seemed to be we should open kilo now, but I haven't done it | 08:13 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: I guess we move the unimplemented specs from juno into an "unimplemented" folder when we do that? | 08:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: I think we can propose a move, then drivers asses if we want that or not? | 08:14 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: as in implied approval for kilo for juno specs? | 08:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: no, as, a help to get approval for juno | 08:15 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: clarifying the "unknown" statuses would also be a good idea before FPF -- some may just be proposed already | 08:15 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: oh I see, as in have drivers vote on how we archive? | 08:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: yeah, I need to sift through those, quite a few often have all their code up, but don't update too | 08:15 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: I kind of feel like we don't need to bikeshed everything | 08:16 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: archival could be just a ptl mandate or something | 08:16 |
| * mikal is very tired of the flame wars at the moment | 08:16 | |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: we agreed not to auto-approve, but I don't want to just delete the spec, thats all | 08:16 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: yeah, I get that | 08:16 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: so, no auto approval | 08:16 |
| ttx | mikal: my last question would be about the midcycle meetup. What do you think made it so much more productive compared to design summit | 08:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: cool, so anything that meets that idea works for me | 08:16 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: and juno approved specs which miss get moved to a "unimplemented" subdir in juno | 08:16 |
| ttx | is the the limited audience? the "stuck in one room" setup ? | 08:17 |
| mikal | ttx: ahh, interesting question | 08:17 |
| mikal | I'm not sure I'd say "more" productive | 08:17 |
| mikal | Certainly more "focussed" | 08:17 |
| mikal | We had elastic timeslots for topics | 08:17 |
| mikal | And could change the agenda based on what came up | 08:17 |
| mikal | People were focussed by there being no competing events | 08:17 |
| mikal | I don't think it replaces a summit | 08:18 |
| mikal | I do think they're important efficiency tools though | 08:18 |
| ttx | I'd like to fix the design summit so that it's more useful | 08:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: thats a little like what we did with more unconference style slots in hong kong, that worked well | 08:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: I think we need to get better at picking sessions | 08:18 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: I felt the HK unconference slots were mostly just people who didn't get an accepted session though | 08:18 |
| mikal | Agreed | 08:18 |
| mikal | I think we also need to not run 8 hour days for nova | 08:19 |
| ttx | I think the main reason it was so badly needed this time around is that the design summit didn't work as well, so somethign was needed by mid-cycle (rather than 6 months after | 08:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: yeah, but it meant we could reject more slots | 08:19 |
| mikal | I'd rather five half days than three full days for example | 08:19 |
| mikal | ttx: I feel like Atlanta was as productive as other summits I've been to | 08:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: we didn't spend enough time following through on the important stuff post summit, at least that was my feeling | 08:19 |
| ttx | I'm considering having some "open time" where we would not schedule specific "sessions" | 08:19 |
| mikal | Its more than six months is a long time without being able to sit down and solve the hard problems we get bogged down on in email | 08:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: and maybe needed a bit more time on overarching topics, that no one proposed as a slot | 08:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: mikal: and yeah, more face time is good, if we can get it | 08:20 |
| mikal | Yeah, the approach was different | 08:20 |
| mikal | We started with a list of important things | 08:20 |
| mikal | And then found people to speak to them | 08:20 |
| ttx | mikal: Like I said in my post, we can have more face time to work on specific issues, but ideally we would go over the cultural alignment at the summit, so that no extra travel is "required" | 08:20 |
| mikal | Instead of letting things people submitted define the agenda | 08:20 |
| mikal | So maybe we should do that for Paris | 08:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: yeah, we tried to do more of that in HKG summit picking, but yeah need to do more of that for paris | 08:21 |
| mikal | ttx: yeah, I get that | 08:21 |
| mikal | I think perhaps its just where nova is at | 08:21 |
| mikal | It feels like we have more contentious things happening now than we did a year or two ago | 08:21 |
| mikal | And face time is awesome for nailing down consensus | 08:22 |
| mikal | I'd be happy to replace the face time with something else | 08:22 |
| mikal | But nothing else has been proposed that I think would work | 08:22 |
| mikal | We don't even get most people to our IRC meetings | 08:22 |
| ttx | mikal: do you feel the audience can be an issue ? Having only key contributors in the room let you expose problems ? | 08:22 |
| mikal | The mid-cycle was definitely better attended than our weekly IRC meetings | 08:22 |
| mikal | ttx: we didn't filter attendees though | 08:22 |
| mikal | ttx: we definitely had single issue people (merge my scheduler) in the room | 08:22 |
| ttx | mikal: right, it's filter by nothing else around | 08:22 |
| ttx | hmm | 08:23 |
| mikal | Well, I guess you could say its filter by travel budget | 08:23 |
| mikal | But we could address that by asking the foundation for travel funding | 08:23 |
| ttx | In the summits we just filter by "so many other interesting things around" | 08:23 |
| mikal | True | 08:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: some people just couldn't make that date though | 08:23 |
| mikal | True | 08:23 |
| ttx | It's not just budget | 08:24 |
| mikal | I don't think its great that we make people travel | 08:24 |
| ttx | it's also will to travel | 08:24 |
| mikal | We just haven't found anything better yet | 08:24 |
| mikal | ttx: have you seen the mid-cycle summary posts I'm doing by the way? | 08:24 |
| ttx | ok, well, discussion to be continued | 08:24 |
| mikal | We covered a _lot_ | 08:24 |
| ttx | mikal: they are on my reading list. Just came back from a break yesterday | 08:24 |
| mikal | ttx: heh, its a lot of text | 08:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly, more use of video chat for drivers would help | 08:24 |
| ttx | I expect to read them tomorrow. | 08:24 |
| mikal | ttx: and I'm not done yet | 08:25 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: yeah, I think trying to get drivers into a hangout is a good idea | 08:25 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: scheduling is hard though | 08:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: yeah, I just got back to work 20 mins ago | 08:25 |
| ttx | ok well. I'll let you go back to work then :) | 08:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: yeah, I think we need to alternate bad times or something | 08:25 |
| ttx | Discussion to be continued | 08:25 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: yep, like the IRC meetings | 08:26 |
| ttx | mikal, johnthetubaguy: anything to discuss at meeting today? | 08:26 |
| mikal | Nup | 08:26 |
| mikal | Not that I can think of | 08:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | nothing from me | 08:26 |
| ttx | mikal, johnthetubaguy: OK, thanks! Talk to you later | 08:26 |
| mikal | Thanks! | 08:26 |
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| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: around? | 12:04 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, yup | 12:06 |
| SergeyLukjanov | morning | 12:06 |
| ttx | #topic Sahara | 12:06 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/sahara/+milestone/juno-3 | 12:07 |
| ttx | #info 6 implemented, 3 in review, 3 in progress, 2 not started | 12:07 |
| ttx | (compared to 2 implemented, 4 udner review, 8 in progress, 1 not started last week) | 12:08 |
| ttx | So that's a pretty good landing rate | 12:08 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/swift-url-proto-cleanup-deprecations in unassigned | 12:08 |
| ttx | (and not started) | 12:08 |
| SergeyLukjanov | yup, a bunch of long going things ended | 12:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | it's very simple thing, mostlycleanup | 12:09 |
| SergeyLukjanov | it'll be discussed on the meeting this week | 12:09 |
| ttx | Last week you said you might make use of FPF to kick out stuff that's not proposed -- given your progress so far I don't think that's really necessary | 12:10 |
| ttx | (FPF is in two days) | 12:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | agreed | 12:10 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/edp-swift-trust-authentication is progressing well? | 12:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I think yes, it's going well | 12:11 |
| ttx | OK, you seem to have a good handle on things. Please assign someone to swift-url-proto-cleanup-deprecations soon, so that we know who to blame | 12:12 |
| ttx | Anythign you want to discuss at meeting? | 12:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I think nope | 12:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'll assign someone on it this week | 12:13 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: ok great. talk to you later, then | 12:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thx | 12:14 |
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| ttx | gordc: hi! let me know when you're ready | 12:20 |
| gordc | ttx: hey, just pulling up eglynn's email. i'm available now. | 12:22 |
| ttx | #topic Ceilometer | 12:22 |
| ttx | gordc: Thanks for coming so early | 12:23 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/juno-3 | 12:23 |
| gordc | np. metro was running on time. :) | 12:23 |
| ttx | #info 3 implemented, 5 under review, 3 in progress | 12:23 |
| gordc | so we hashed out all our bps for juno3... they've all been started or have code up for review | 12:23 |
| ttx | Last week it was 2 implemented, 4 under review, 6 in progress | 12:23 |
| gordc | one low priority item (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/ipmi-support) yet to have code posted by eoghan followed up over the weekend and the item is apparently complete internally and they will post code soon (i will check with llu again since it's an intel bp) | 12:24 |
| ttx | So that's good progress | 12:24 |
| gordc | yep. we had a few code items (specifically xenapi bp) added recently. | 12:24 |
| gordc | last meeting, we decided pushed gnoochi/ceilometer dispatcher work to post-juno as we didn't have resources and gnocchi work remains decoupled from ceilometer work. | 12:25 |
| ttx | #info Juno-3 progress looks good | 12:25 |
| gordc | one issue that came up was grenade work. Chris Dent is working on that item and is talking with QA folks on how to properly implement upgrade testing. current work is being debated. | 12:25 |
| gordc | let me dig up list item on grenade work | 12:25 |
| ttx | You also have all of the high-prio and most of the mediupm-prio stuff already up for review | 12:25 |
| ttx | which is good | 12:25 |
| gordc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102354 grenade work that is currently being discussed | 12:26 |
| ttx | Now it's more a question of turning those "under review" into "implemented" things :) | 12:26 |
| gordc | yeah. i'll need to bug some of the cores to get reviewing now that eglynn is offline for a week. but we have sileht back this week so that's good. | 12:26 |
| ttx | if you get most of the "high" prio stuff implemented and out of the way, it will simplify the last weeks | 12:27 |
| gordc | agreed. we have code pretty much finalised for 2 of 3 three remaining high priority items | 12:28 |
| ttx | If I remember correctly you don't plan to use a FeatureProposalFreeze this week to drop all blueprints that won't have code proposed by Thursday | 12:28 |
| gordc | central agent partitioning bp is actively being worked on and i don't have any concerns there. | 12:28 |
| gordc | hmm. i don't recall regarding featureproposalfreeze. i guess we have code for all bps currently and i don't intend on adding any during the time eglynn is away | 12:29 |
| ttx | right | 12:29 |
| gordc | aside from very very small items i don't see any new features being added. | 12:30 |
| gordc | but we'll just say no new items are expected. | 12:30 |
| ttx | OK, well that's all I had -- did you have anything you wanted to discuss at the cross-project meeting later today? | 12:30 |
| gordc | no, i think i should be ok for cross-project meeting. eglynn mentioned a few items we had to track. | 12:31 |
| gordc | i assume people know eglynn is on holiday so hopefully there isn't much new items against ceilometer | 12:31 |
| ttx | gordc: ok then. talk to you later, and thanks again for filling in | 12:32 |
| gordc | np. thanks for pushing time back a bit :) | 12:32 |
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| ttx | jgriffith: around? | 14:02 |
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| ttx | dolphm: around? | 14:18 |
| dolphm | ttx: o/ | 14:19 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone | 14:21 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/juno-3 | 14:21 |
| ttx | #info 5 under review, 1 in progress, 3 blocked and 1 not started | 14:21 |
| ttx | last week it was 4 Under review, 2 in progress, 6 Blocked/Not started | 14:21 |
| ttx | so i guess that counts as progress | 14:22 |
| ttx | Are you still uncertain on the Blocked ones? | 14:22 |
| ttx | FPF is Thursday :) | 14:22 |
| dolphm | one that's blocked is actually blocked... | 14:22 |
| dolphm | well, two, but i'm working on one | 14:23 |
| dolphm | keystone to keystone needs an openstack/requirements review | 14:23 |
| dolphm | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113294/ | 14:23 |
| ttx | I may be able to help there | 14:23 |
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| dolphm | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/endpoint-policy should have been recently unblocked - fixed | 14:24 |
| dolphm | and i swear there's an implementation already in review, but i can't find it, so i'm leaving it as Not Started until our meeting today. if it's not in review today, i'm planning for it to be dropped | 14:24 |
| dolphm | Deprecated Functionality is "Not Started" but only because i don't know that we actually have anything we want to deprecate this release - going to have a last minute discussion today in our meeting about that | 14:25 |
| dolphm | otherwise, i guess i'll repurpose that for kilo | 14:25 |
| ttx | ok +2ed | 14:26 |
| dolphm | and then, i just bumped non-persistent tokens from Slow to Good Progress, it cutting it really close though | 14:27 |
| dolphm | ttx: thanks! | 14:27 |
| ttx | #info keystone-to-keystone-federation blocked by requirements' https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113294/ | 14:27 |
| ttx | audit-support-for-federation is blocked waiting on keystone-to-keystone-federation itself? | 14:28 |
| ttx | As far as FPF is concerned, Deprecated functionality can get an exception | 14:29 |
| ttx | Do you still plan to enforce FPF on Thursday? That would probably threaten non-persistent-tokens and endpoint-policy | 14:30 |
| dolphm | audit support is actually pending support in pycadf, and yeah, the implementation is partly dependent on k2k | 14:31 |
| ttx | dolphm: i would say you're in good shape, you just need to get features landed earlier, to avoid the last-week rush | 14:32 |
| dolphm | still planning to enforce FPF, yes | 14:32 |
| dolphm | we're far enough behind on bp reviews that FPF will be critical for us | 14:32 |
| ttx | OK, maybe raise the need for requirements review at the meeting today? | 14:33 |
| ttx | Anything else you want to discuss there ? | 14:33 |
| dolphm | i don't believe so | 14:35 |
| dolphm | and yeah - we need to get that requirements patch in so we can start landing k2k patches | 14:35 |
| ttx | dolphm: ok great. Don't forget to mention it at the meeting, that should unblock it | 14:36 |
| ttx | david-lyle: around? | 14:36 |
| ttx | dolphm: thx! | 14:36 |
| david-lyle | ttx: o/ | 14:36 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon | 14:36 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/juno-3 | 14:36 |
| ttx | #info 8 implemented, 33 under review, 20 in progress, 2 unknown | 14:37 |
| ttx | (last week was: 7 implemented, 28 under review, 24 in progress, 4 unknown) | 14:37 |
| ttx | So that's progressing | 14:37 |
| ttx | david-lyle: you mentioned having a FPF last week, but I still see blueprints with code not being proposed yet, so we may not agree on what FPF means | 14:38 |
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| david-lyle | that could be | 14:40 |
| ttx | david-lyle: the "no new blueprints" deadline is called SpecProposalDeadline | 14:40 |
| ttx | FPF is: "all code must be up for review" | 14:40 |
| ttx | so basically at FPF you should only have "under review" or "implemented" blueprints | 14:41 |
| ttx | Most projects observe it on August 21, two days from now | 14:41 |
| david-lyle | ok, hmm | 14:42 |
| ttx | It usually makes sense to remove stuff from the bottom of the pile, reduce noise and increase focus | 14:43 |
| ttx | But then it's difficult to push on unsuspecting contributors two days before it hits :) | 14:44 |
| david-lyle | ttx: makes sense, my terminology was off, and in the past in Horizon we've taken bps up til the end | 14:44 |
| ttx | right | 14:44 |
| david-lyle | I'm trying to reign that in | 14:44 |
| david-lyle | I had been announcing the freeze in meetings 3 weeks prior | 14:45 |
| david-lyle | horizon meetings | 14:45 |
| david-lyle | I understand not everyone attends or reads the logs, of course | 14:45 |
| ttx | Of the "high" blueprints, only https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/launch-instance-ux-enhancement is not under review yet | 14:45 |
| david-lyle | ttx: I'll have a status update on that in an hour or so | 14:46 |
| ttx | last week you said you considered moving it out. | 14:46 |
| ttx | ok, let's see how that goes | 14:46 |
| david-lyle | it may miss, code was up, but usability feedback required large changes | 14:46 |
| ttx | Anythign for the meeting later today? | 14:46 |
| david-lyle | the owner is assessing if they can make the changes | 14:47 |
| david-lyle | no items for later | 14:47 |
| ttx | ok. Please update status on launch-instance-ux-enhancement when you know if you keep it | 14:47 |
| ttx | david-lyle: thx! | 14:47 |
| david-lyle | thank you | 14:47 |
| ttx | mestery: around? | 14:47 |
| mestery | \o/ | 14:47 |
| ttx | #topic Neutron | 14:48 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/juno-3 | 14:48 |
| * mestery was on vacation Friday/Monday over the past week. | 14:48 | |
| mestery | Recovering from a 4-day weekend while preparing to fly to Chicago for Linuxcon today | 14:49 |
| ttx | #info 3 Implemented, 43 under review, 12 in progress, 26 Unknown/Blocked | 14:49 |
| mestery | I expect to drop the 26 unknown/blocked by 8-21 this week. | 14:49 |
| ttx | Last week was: 3 implemented, 39 under review, 11 in progress, 32 unknown/blocked | 14:49 |
| mestery | Some people voluntarily removed their BPs, which helped. :) | 14:49 |
| ttx | right, that makes 43 blueprints in jeopardy due to FPF observance | 14:49 |
| ttx | err | 14:50 |
| ttx | that use to make | 14:50 |
| mestery | Those 43 have code proposed | 14:50 |
| mestery | I think 38 are in jeopardy right? | 14:50 |
| ttx | 38 in jeopardy now | 14:50 |
| mestery | cool | 14:50 |
| ttx | yes | 14:50 |
| mestery | :) | 14:50 |
| mestery | I am most happy that the L3 HA reviews are now getting some airtime, that's a critical piece for us in Juno. | 14:51 |
| ttx | This is moving a bit too slow though, even if we cut down the BPs on Thursday.. we need more landing | 14:51 |
| mestery | I expect those to start landing this week, carl_baldwin is working with the the L3 HA team to make that happen. | 14:51 |
| mestery | Agreed. | 14:51 |
| ttx | especialy as i wouldn't hold too much hope on the gate status for FF week | 14:51 |
| mestery | Yes, agreed. | 14:51 |
| ttx | land while you can! | 14:52 |
| mestery | ++ | 14:52 |
| ttx | Shall we mark https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-ovs-dvr "implemenetd" now? | 14:52 |
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| mestery | I think we can, yes, I'll verify with armax and carl_baldwin today, but I think we can do that. | 14:53 |
| ttx | And track last remaining bugs in juno-3 bugs targeting? | 14:53 |
| mestery | Yes | 14:53 |
| ttx | That would make that list look a lot better :) | 14:53 |
| mestery | :) | 14:53 |
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| ttx | The other two "high" that are in jeopardy right now would be: | 14:53 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ml2-hierarchical-port-binding | 14:53 |
| ttx | and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/lbaas-refactor-haproxy-namespace-driver-to-new-driver-interface | 14:54 |
| mestery | Yes | 14:54 |
| ttx | How is progress looking on those 2? | 14:54 |
| mestery | First one is iffy | 14:54 |
| ttx | may stil make it ? Would get an exception (sshh, don't tell) ? | 14:54 |
| mestery | Second is also iffy | 14:54 |
| mestery | I think the first one may get an exception | 14:54 |
| mestery | I'll work with rkukura on that | 14:55 |
| ttx | ok | 14:55 |
| ttx | Can't wait we get rid of all those unknowns on Thursday | 14:55 |
| mestery | I am very excited to do that yes :) | 14:55 |
| ttx | OK, I don't think I have much more to add | 14:56 |
| ttx | How is the incubator proposal going those days? | 14:56 |
| mestery | Me either, next week will look much cleaner. | 14:57 |
| mestery | I think we're going to do the incubator | 14:57 |
| mestery | GBP folks are pretty much on board now | 14:57 |
| ttx | Would you observe feature freeze in it in the same way you do for the neutron repo ? | 14:57 |
| mestery | We're still working on that | 14:57 |
| ttx | I think it makes sense for them to not have one that early* | 14:57 |
| mestery | Agreed on that | 14:57 |
| ttx | the aggressive deadlines on the integrated release are to make sure no project screws up the others | 14:58 |
| mestery | :) | 14:58 |
| ttx | there are some benefits in being out of it | 14:58 |
| ttx | they should have them | 14:58 |
| mestery | Yes, I agree | 14:58 |
| ttx | Anything you'd like to discuss at the meeting ? | 14:58 |
| mestery | Nope, I will only be there 30 minutes due to travel | 14:59 |
| ttx | Nothing was posted on the agenda yet, so it might be a short one | 14:59 |
| ttx | OK, talk to you later, enjoy LinuxCon | 15:00 |
| mestery | thanks! | 15:00 |
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| notmyname | ttx: I'm here. I need just a few minutes please. just got to the office | 15:29 |
| ttx | ack, no pb | 15:29 |
| notmyname | ttx: ready | 15:35 |
| ttx | notmyname: o/ | 15:35 |
| ttx | #topic Swift | 15:36 |
| ttx | So, did you clarify your plans wrt. the last intermediary swift release? | 15:36 |
| notmyname | ttx: 2 more, actually, as we had discussed a while back. or maybe that's what you mean. one before juno and then one at juno | 15:36 |
| ttx | one intermediary and one final, yes | 15:37 |
| notmyname | first can I confirm with you that juno is oct 16 | 15:37 |
| ttx | yes it is | 15:38 |
| notmyname | ok, thanks | 15:38 |
| notmyname | 2.1.0 rc next week (aug 25). final on sept 1 | 15:38 |
| notmyname | and 2.next RC on oct 6 with the final at or near oct 16 for juno | 15:39 |
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| notmyname | how does that work with you? | 15:39 |
| ttx | notmyname: that would work | 15:41 |
| notmyname | ttx: ok, great | 15:41 |
| notmyname | as normal, I'll send you the SHA | 15:41 |
| notmyname | ie I;ll send you one this weekend and you can cut the rc at your leisure on monday | 15:41 |
| ttx | ack, hopefully we'll not have to backport this time around ) | 15:42 |
| ttx | :) | 15:42 |
| notmyname | always :-) | 15:42 |
| ttx | Any specific feature there ? Or mostly a bugfix release? | 15:42 |
| ttx | #info 2.1.0 rc next week (aug 25). final on sept 1 | 15:42 |
| ttx | #info next RC on oct 6 with the final at or near oct 16 for juno | 15:42 |
| notmyname | ttx: some smaller changes, but enough to have 2.1.0 (rather than 2.0.1): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115167/2/CHANGELOG | 15:43 |
| ttx | Want me to create the 2.1.0 milestone? | 15:43 |
| notmyname | but mostly polish rather than HUGE NEW FEATURE | 15:43 |
| notmyname | yes, please | 15:43 |
| ttx | ok, will do | 15:43 |
| ttx | Any topic for the meeting today? | 15:44 |
| notmyname | no, I don't think so | 15:44 |
| notmyname | we are working on the gap analysis questions. I hope to review those at the wednesday swift team meeting | 15:44 |
| ttx | ok then, will ping you when I have the milestone up | 15:44 |
| notmyname | ie reviewing various oslo libraries | 15:44 |
| ttx | notmyname: thx, and ttyl | 15:45 |
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| ttx | zaneb: around? | 15:47 |
| zaneb | ttx: yes, but I'm at the Heat mid-cycle meetup today | 15:48 |
| ttx | zaneb: oh, ok. Maybe we should skip then | 15:48 |
| ttx | and talk another day | 15:48 |
| zaneb | yeah, that would be good if we could | 15:48 |
| ttx | (I suspect your status is in flux anyway) | 15:48 |
| ttx | zaneb: enjoy your meetup. | 15:49 |
| zaneb | sorry, forgot to warn you in advance | 15:49 |
| zaneb | thanks, ttyl | 15:49 |
| ttx | no problem | 15:49 |
| jgriffith | ttx: ruh roh | 15:51 |
| ttx | jgriffith: o/ | 15:51 |
| ttx | I have a free slot now :) | 15:51 |
| jgriffith | how fortuitous for me | 15:51 |
| ttx | notmyname: https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/2.1.0 up for your targeting pleasure | 15:51 |
| ttx | #topic Cinder | 15:52 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/juno-3 | 15:52 |
| jgriffith | Only one I'm unclear on is Vincent's | 15:52 |
| ttx | #info 2 implemented, 8 in review, 4 in progress, 1 unknown | 15:52 |
| jgriffith | it's in progress | 15:53 |
| ttx | jgriffith: IIRC you plan to observe FPF on Thursday? | 15:53 |
| jgriffith | I'll update it manually | 15:53 |
| jgriffith | ttx: that's correct | 15:53 |
| jgriffith | ttx: mostly wanted to use it as a driver submission cut off | 15:53 |
| ttx | So that makes 5 in jeopardy, including https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/secure-nfs | 15:53 |
| jgriffith | right | 15:54 |
| jgriffith | I'll get the word out to make sure everyone's clear | 15:54 |
| jgriffith | I'd like to see NFS fixed up but honestly I'm not sure it's going to happen anyway (even if they had another week) | 15:55 |
| ttx | that one blueprint I just linked is the one trying to plug that security issue in NFS support, right | 15:55 |
| jgriffith | ttx: correct | 15:55 |
| ttx | right, would be nice to have | 15:55 |
| jgriffith | ttx: I'll talk to Glenn and would certainly do an exception for it | 15:55 |
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| ttx | You also want it to actually be safe, which takes extra time to review | 15:55 |
| jgriffith | ttx: yeah, so that's the ONLY one I see that I would let go longer | 15:56 |
| ttx | So you don't seem in a bad situation, but you definitely should merge as much as you can this week, to avoid the rush | 15:56 |
| jgriffith | ttx: I'll just call it a bug :) | 15:56 |
| jgriffith | since it is | 15:56 |
| ttx | yeah, it's a bug but it probably requires featury things like new config options | 15:56 |
| ttx | which make it impact documentation | 15:57 |
| jgriffith | yeah, that's why we moved it. | 15:57 |
| ttx | so I'd prefer it to follow the exception procedure, if only so that people are aware it's coming | 15:57 |
| jgriffith | I'll get with Glenn and see where he's at with it | 15:57 |
| ttx | OK, anything else? | 15:57 |
| ttx | Any topic for the meeting today? | 15:57 |
| jgriffith | ttx: I agree, I'll get it formalized and out on the ML if it happens | 15:57 |
| jgriffith | or when it happens | 15:58 |
| jgriffith | I do not | 15:58 |
| * ttx might just add the meetup vs. design summit discussion there | 15:58 | |
| ttx | but that sounds like a recipe for getting to bed late | 15:58 |
| jgriffith | ttx: I have a lot of thoughts on that, but I hate to open that can of worms without having better ideas in mind :) | 15:58 |
| jgriffith | ttx: yes, it would be a very long night for you I suspect | 15:58 |
| jgriffith | ttx: I'm thinking of proposing a different format for Cinder this time around | 15:59 |
| jgriffith | but thought I should go via ML when I have something in mind | 15:59 |
| ttx | jgriffith: ah. Let's discuss it at the meeting :) | 15:59 |
| jgriffith | ttx: works for me | 15:59 |
| jgriffith | I'll spit ball my ideas/thoughts | 15:59 |
| jgriffith | see what we can come up with | 15:59 |
| ttx | yeah, mostly brainstorming | 16:00 |
| ttx | jgriffith: thx! | 16:00 |
| jgriffith | ttx: thank you... see ya later | 16:01 |
| ttx | SlickNik: ready when you are | 16:02 |
| ttx | No Glance person there yet | 16:02 |
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| ttx | arnaud: o/ | 16:08 |
| ttx | representing Glance again? | 16:08 |
| SlickNik | ttx: I'm at the Trove Day, and the Trove mid-cycle meetup this week — so won't be able to talk much. | 16:11 |
| SlickNik | ttx: trying to get closure on the multiple open reviews we have in progress: https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/juno-3 | 16:11 |
| ttx | SlickNik: I'm fine with skipping, you seem in pretty good shape | 16:11 |
| ttx | SlickNik: Enjoy your meetup | 16:11 |
| * ttx waits a bit more to see if arnaud is representing Glance this week, otherwise I'll close the 1:1 syncs for today | 16:12 | |
| ttx | OK, let's call it a day. | 16:15 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 16:15 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 19 16:15:16 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-08-19-08.01.html | 16:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-08-19-08.01.txt | 16:15 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-08-19-08.01.log.html | 16:15 |
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