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| ttx | mikal: around? | 08:02 |
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| ttx | let's wait a bit more | 08:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 | 08:04 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: we'll have a quick discussion at 09:00 UTC if mikal is still missing. Want to see if he got the wrong hour (happens to me too) | 08:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: sure, sounds good | 08:44 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: ok, I guess he won't join, let's quickly discuss state | 09:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting ptl_sync | 09:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 15 09:01:35 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: sure | 09:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ptl_sync' | 09:01 |
| ttx | #topic Nova | 09:01 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/juno-2 | 09:01 |
| ttx | About 2 thirds of it is under review | 09:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, lots needs code review I guess, which is good and bad :) | 09:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | I guess we should start punting stuff to juno-3 soon | 09:03 |
| ttx | server-count-api is marked Not started, sounds like a good candidate for punting | 09:03 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: yes, punt early... and try to convert those that are 99% there | 09:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, the slow and not-started should probably all get punted | 09:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, how long do we have now its just over a week I guess? | 09:03 |
| ttx | yeah, about one week left, +0..2 days | 09:04 |
| ttx | but it's better to let that 0..2 handle unexpected gate delays | 09:04 |
| ttx | so I'd expect anything not approved in one week to be deferred | 09:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | right, good point | 09:05 |
| ttx | #info Punt early, especially Not started / Slow progress | 09:05 |
| ttx | #info Concentrate on those that are almost there, to increase completion rate | 09:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | sounds good | 09:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks, will try sort that out | 09:06 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy, mikal: note that russellb will be handling the J2 tag -- please communicate with him next week | 09:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | and will send a rallying call around reviews | 09:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: ah, cool, thanks for the heads up | 09:07 |
| ttx | He will probably skip the 1:1 usual times and just talk to you | 09:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I guess we need a more US friendly slot next week | 09:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | I will try seek out mikal and chat to him about that | 09:07 |
| ttx | #info spec backlog at 105 | 09:08 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: remind me when is your SPD/SAD ? | 09:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, so in theory we should −2 all of those now | 09:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | the date has passed, but I feel bad about the review backlog, so haven't really closed it off as such yet | 09:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | we had a communication issue someone | 09:09 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: right... trick is, until it's clearly closed, people will continue to spend time on them, which kind of defeats the purpose of those deadlines | 09:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | lots of reviewers seemed to have thought the proposal freeze date was the merge freeze date, despite all emails saying the opposite | 09:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: yeah, I have been trying to catch up with mikal but failing so far | 09:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | really I want to understand what we are delaying, and go through that backlog, but not had chance since the freeze date, so there is an action on me too there | 09:10 |
| ttx | ok | 09:10 |
| ttx | Do you have anything for the cross-project meetign agenda later today? | 09:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | in the nova meeting, there was push back on the freeze before we decide about J, and we decided to discuss that at the midcycle, so I kinda punted that | 09:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | I don't think anything major has come up | 09:11 |
| ttx | ok | 09:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | I would like to get more discussion of blueprints we are doing for "consistency" there, like the tagging API, just for visibility | 09:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | but not really chased down a list of those things, that might be the only one so far | 09:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | the big elephant in the room is the API.NEXT work | 09:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | we still haven't actually agreed on a plan | 09:12 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: ok.. we should probably talk again before the end of the week, when the j2 list will have been... sanitized | 09:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal is trying to chase down some agreement | 09:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: cool, sounds good | 09:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats all from me really | 09:12 |
| ttx | ack, talk to you later | 09:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks | 09:13 |
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| eglynn | ttx: ready when you are | 11:45 |
| ttx | eglynn: o/ | 11:45 |
| ttx | #topic Ceilometer | 11:45 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/juno-2 | 11:46 |
| ttx | Still a long way to go in one week | 11:46 |
| ttx | do you think all of those are still likely to make it? | 11:46 |
| eglynn | yeah, I've actually got 3 more specs that look likely to land | 11:46 |
| eglynn | VPNaaS: https://review.openstack.org/95781 | 11:47 |
| eglynn | FWaaS: https://review.openstack.org/95779 | 11:47 |
| eglynn | SNMP++: https://review.openstack.org/104113 | 11:47 |
| eglynn | VPNaaS and FWaaS patches should land | 11:47 |
| eglynn | on SNMP, Lianhao isn't sure but is striving to get it in | 11:47 |
| ttx | the code review has been going on in parallel ? | 11:47 |
| eglynn | yep | 11:47 |
| eglynn | the other question mark is on the grenade resource surviviability | 11:48 |
| eglynn | the javelin2 stuff in tempest is looking like a non-solid basis for that | 11:48 |
| ttx | hmm. I feel like we are not getting the clarity we expected from the specs process, if specs fly below radar and blueprints just appear on the final week | 11:48 |
| eglynn | mtreinish characterizes it a WIP | 11:48 |
| ttx | eglynn: do you think this late appearance is just due to spec backlog, or more a permanent feature of using -specs? | 11:49 |
| eglynn | yeap, BTW the specs process is being "subverted" somewhat by folks just coding in parallel | 11:49 |
| eglynn | I think it's partially due to the process still being bedded in | 11:49 |
| eglynn | we will have to strictly prioritize reviewing efforts next time round | 11:50 |
| eglynn | i.e. don't go off reviewing loads of code patches if there are pending reviews in the specs repo | 11:50 |
| eglynn | ttx: are you seeing similar patterns on other projects? | 11:50 |
| ttx | ok -- if that trends is also present in other projects we might have to have a discussion about that | 11:50 |
| ttx | I'll see by the end of the day | 11:50 |
| eglynn | OK | 11:50 |
| ttx | Nova and Neutron kind of avoid that with the specs freezes | 11:51 |
| ttx | eglynn: so you may have 3 more specs appearing on that page | 11:51 |
| eglynn | yeah, for ceilo I feel that'll have to be more a specs slush this time round | 11:51 |
| eglynn | yes, two at the very least, most likely 3 | 11:51 |
| ttx | and you think everything can make it in one week? | 11:52 |
| ttx | the 5 already there + 3 | 11:52 |
| ttx | or are you likely to defer some of those 5? | 11:52 |
| eglynn | everything should land I think except possibly SNMP++ and grenade | 11:52 |
| eglynn | grenade is the first one I'll bump | 11:53 |
| eglynn | probably by EoD tmrw | 11:53 |
| ttx | ok | 11:53 |
| eglynn | other big concern on my radar is this test timeout that I mentioned before ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1336193 | 11:53 |
| eglynn | sileht is not yet back, so I've asked nsaje to look at it | 11:53 |
| eglynn | (nsaje just started as a short-term contractor with Red Hat) | 11:54 |
| ttx | You also have https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1327076 targeted, with no assignee | 11:54 |
| eglynn | Nejc has a definite line of inquiry on the oslo-messaging side | 11:54 |
| ttx | is anyone working on that? | 11:54 |
| eglynn | meant to assign that to myself | 11:55 |
| eglynn | done so now | 11:55 |
| ttx | #info 3 more blueprints expected to appear on the j2 plans as their specs get approved (code been developed in parallel) | 11:55 |
| ttx | eglynn: in other news, note that russellb will be doing the tag next week | 11:55 |
| eglynn | and in other other news, I'll be taking some half days off next week for family reasons | 11:56 |
| ttx | #info Spec backlog: 27 | 11:56 |
| eglynn | but will be contactable and making all my scheduled meetings | 11:56 |
| ttx | ok | 11:57 |
| ttx | there won't be 1:1s next week, at least not at usual times, and without me | 11:57 |
| eglynn | ttx: so same process as j1, declare to russellb when ready to tag? | 11:57 |
| russellb | we just need to sync on when you think j2 is ready | 11:57 |
| russellb | yep :) | 11:57 |
| eglynn | russellb: cool :) | 11:58 |
| ttx | eglynn: yes, he will probably chase you down to make sure the blueprints are aligned | 11:58 |
| * eglynn prepares to be chased ... ;) | 11:58 | |
| russellb | gold stars awarded if no chasing required | 11:58 |
| ttx | eglynn: anything you wanted to add to project meeting agenda for today? | 11:58 |
| ttx | russellb: o/ | 11:59 |
| eglynn | ttx: nope that's all from me | 11:59 |
| russellb | \o | 11:59 |
| ttx | eglynn: cool, thx! | 11:59 |
| eglynn | laters :) | 11:59 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: around? | 11:59 |
| ttx | dhellmann: if you're already available, you can steal Sergey's slot | 12:01 |
| dhellmann | ttx: here | 12:02 |
| ttx | ok, let's do this | 12:02 |
| ttx | #topic Oslo | 12:02 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/juno-2 | 12:02 |
| dhellmann | you might want to hit reload, I've been updating bps this morning | 12:02 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I no longer look in advance :) | 12:03 |
| dhellmann | heh | 12:03 |
| ttx | this looks good | 12:03 |
| ttx | The last 3 are still likely to land ? | 12:03 |
| dhellmann | we have a few reviews for oslo.utils, so it might be tight but none of that work is really big | 12:04 |
| dhellmann | the infra team is in germany at their sprint, so I don't know about the test job changes, that might have to wait for after j2 | 12:04 |
| ttx | Anything j2-worthy flying below radar, like a specs almost there with code reviewed in parallel? | 12:05 |
| dhellmann | I think the configfilter wrapper is actually done, but I want to check with markmc before closing that one | 12:05 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+milestone/juno-2 doesn't have blueprints in it anymore | 12:06 |
| dhellmann | odd | 12:06 |
| ttx | 2 in j3 | 12:06 |
| dhellmann | those are new approvals | 12:06 |
| dhellmann | I wonder what happened to the others in j2 | 12:06 |
| ttx | dhellmann: russellb will push the tag for oslo-incubator and mark the milestone "released" for oslo.messaging next week, so he wil be your point of contact that week | 12:07 |
| dhellmann | ok | 12:07 |
| ttx | russellb: fwiw I usually do oslo when everything else is out of the way | 12:07 |
| ttx | since it's not really blocking the j2 announcements | 12:08 |
| russellb | dhellmann: o/ | 12:08 |
| russellb | ttx: makes sense | 12:08 |
| dhellmann | russellb: o/ | 12:08 |
| ttx | dhellmann: the release scripts now should know how to handle oslo, so it will be a lot less manual | 12:08 |
| dhellmann | cool | 12:08 |
| ttx | and thanks for tagging that rootwrap alpha | 12:09 |
| dhellmann | no trouble at all | 12:10 |
| dhellmann | I need to automate the email step from that process :-) | 12:10 |
| ttx | #info spec backlog: 10 | 12:10 |
| dhellmann | maybe I could write a script for infra to do it | 12:10 |
| dhellmann | I can't find those missing oslo.messaging blueprints :-/ | 12:10 |
| ttx | dhellmann: yeah, we need to work on streamlining library announcements | 12:11 |
| ttx | have a clear source to find them | 12:11 |
| dhellmann | I'll bring it up at the meeting this week and see if anyone wants to take that on | 12:11 |
| dhellmann | a clear source to find the release notices, or the libraries? | 12:12 |
| ttx | dhellmann: it's not just oslo, client libs should follow it as well | 12:12 |
| ttx | release notices | 12:12 |
| ttx | dhellmann: only trick is.. raw git changelog really fails to highlight stuff | 12:12 |
| dhellmann | yeah, the client library announcements should go to python-announce, too | 12:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, I'm sorry, /me been on internal meeting, now ready | 12:12 |
| dhellmann | yeah, true | 12:12 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I've been thinking about it from a Storyboard perspective. and the role of Launchpad in building "release pages" | 12:13 |
| dhellmann | looking at the open specs, I really only anticipate the oslo.cache work and service-status-interface to have a high likelihood of seeing any real work this cycle | 12:13 |
| ttx | We can replicate that "feature" in Storyboard, but it's a bit out of the pure "task tracking" function | 12:13 |
| ttx | we could use smarter commit messages and leverage git changelog to build a list of features and bugs | 12:14 |
| ttx | and security fixes | 12:14 |
| dhellmann | yeah, it seems like we will have the information available between git, specs, and blueprints, but we have to tie it all together | 12:14 |
| ttx | but not sure everyone would follow the rules | 12:15 |
| dhellmann | a couple of jobs back we had a special field in the bug tracker for "release note" that could be updated after the ticket was closed so the doc team could generate notes automatically | 12:15 |
| ttx | so if we can build something good for oslo libraries, we are likely to reuse that for releases and milestones | 12:15 |
| russellb | if there's enough obvious benefit to the rules (awesome auto release summary) then that would provide motivation | 12:15 |
| ttx | russellb: it's just that in LP, the milestone field actually has two purposes | 12:16 |
| dhellmann | maybe a field like that in storyboard would work, and the person doing the release could update it before generating the release? | 12:16 |
| ttx | it's when you want to deliver it, then it's when you did deliver it | 12:16 |
| * russellb nods | 12:16 | |
| ttx | and we have plenty of scripts to try to gover for that slight gap in meaning | 12:16 |
| ttx | cover* | 12:16 |
| ttx | the ultimate source of what's IN the release is really the git thing, not what LP or Storyboard thinks is in there | 12:17 |
| dhellmann | won't storyboard have the git commit ids? | 12:17 |
| ttx | dhellmann: it will probably have some, but just like LP it will miss some work | 12:18 |
| ttx | that just landed without ref | 12:18 |
| ttx | anyway, separate discussion | 12:18 |
| dhellmann | oh, I thought we were going to add items to storyboard automatically | 12:18 |
| dhellmann | maybe that was nixed | 12:18 |
| ttx | dhellmann: no, it's still a possibility... but that also requires people to ref a storyboard ID in the commit message | 12:19 |
| dhellmann | ah, true | 12:19 |
| ttx | so if you add rules to commit messages... | 12:19 |
| ttx | anyway, offtopic | 12:19 |
| dhellmann | yeah, sorry :-) | 12:20 |
| ttx | dhellmann: anything you wanted to add to meeting agenda for today? | 12:20 |
| dhellmann | not today | 12:20 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: still around? | 12:20 |
| ttx | dhellmann: ok, ttyl | 12:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, yup | 12:20 |
| ttx | #topic Sahara | 12:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | #link https://launchpad.net/sahara/+milestone/juno-2 | 12:20 |
| ttx | Looks pretty good | 12:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, everything looks good | 12:21 |
| ttx | At this point, it's good if targeted bugs have assignees | 12:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, ok, I'll ask folks to grab the issues | 12:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, there is some good progress on merging sahara-dashboard to horizon | 12:21 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, only 4 changes left | 12:21 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: is that blueprint list complete, or do you have things to add there ? | 12:21 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: how many were there originally? | 12:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, it depends on specs review, probable +1-2 | 12:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, and I | 12:22 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, and I'll check that we're not missed some already done work | 12:23 |
| ttx | ok, good | 12:23 |
| ttx | So you have code that has been developed in parallel with specs and is rady for review as soon as the spec is approved? | 12:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, yup, we have several such specs | 12:24 |
| ttx | ok | 12:24 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: russellb will be handling the tag next week | 12:24 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, ack | 12:24 |
| ttx | there won't be formal 1:1s at the usual times | 12:24 |
| ttx | #info spec backlog: 4 | 12:24 |
| ttx | #info maybe one or two blueprints will be added in j2 | 12:25 |
| russellb | SergeyLukjanov: so let's just stay in touch, and just let me know when you feel j2 is ready to go | 12:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | russellb, okay, I think it'll be July 22-24 | 12:25 |
| ttx | and russellb will chase you down if it appears you are missing the launch window | 12:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | russellb, for sahara we're usually ready in -1..-2 days before the dev milestone | 12:26 |
| russellb | perfect | 12:26 |
| russellb | that's when i'll start looking at projects and tagging when ready | 12:26 |
| ttx | russellb: so yeah, most of the job is to maximize the chances that everything happens in the same time window, be aligning the milestone page content with what is still likely to make it in time | 12:27 |
| ttx | by* | 12:27 |
| ttx | if you just check on Tuesday you get a very long list and it's hard to cut. By removing things that have no chance of making it, you actually increase the chances that the rest will make it | 12:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, I'd like to add just reminder for today's meeting re merging -dashboard to horizon | 12:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, nothing specific to discuss | 12:28 |
| ttx | but it's hard, because nobody really knows what will make it or miss | 12:28 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: ok | 12:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, thx | 12:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, I'm usually moving all < High to the next milestone on Tue | 12:29 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: good :) | 12:30 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: that's all I had, thanks! | 12:30 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, thank you | 12:30 |
| jgriffith | ttx: lemme know if you have time to go early | 13:04 |
| ttx | jgriffith: I do | 13:04 |
| ttx | #topic Cinder | 13:04 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/juno-2 | 13:04 |
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| jgriffith | sweet | 13:05 |
| ttx | jgriffith: I suspect a few of those definitely won't make it in one week | 13:05 |
| jgriffith | ttx: Nope, probably not | 13:05 |
| ttx | jgriffith: so defer as soon as you're relatively sure they won't make it | 13:05 |
| jgriffith | ttx: will do | 13:05 |
| ttx | on the other hand, is theer anything that might get added at the last minute? | 13:06 |
| jgriffith | ttx: I don't plan on adding anything that doesn't have a review ready/complete at this point | 13:06 |
| ttx | jgriffith: but nothing comes to mind? | 13:06 |
| jgriffith | There is likely to be a few specs pop up, but they're J3 or untargetted until I have completed code | 13:06 |
| jgriffith | ummm.... | 13:06 |
| ttx | #info Spec backlog: 28 | 13:06 |
| jgriffith | ttx: well, boat load of drivers | 13:07 |
| ttx | ok | 13:07 |
| jgriffith | ttx: problem is I don't see anybody with anything "close" | 13:07 |
| ttx | jgriffith: keep on refining. russellb will be your host for J2 tagging | 13:07 |
| jgriffith | ttx: k | 13:08 |
| jgriffith | lucky russellb | 13:08 |
| jgriffith | :) | 13:08 |
| russellb | :) | 13:08 |
| ttx | jgriffith: did you have anything for the meeting today? | 13:08 |
| jgriffith | russellb: that was only two... you don't appear until three | 13:08 |
| jgriffith | ttx: nope | 13:09 |
| jgriffith | ttx: just need to get these features buttoned up | 13:09 |
| ttx | jgriffith: we'll skip 1:1s next week, since I won't be arond | 13:09 |
| ttx | +u | 13:09 |
| russellb | jgriffith: i'll be in touch early next week to identify when j2 is ready | 13:09 |
| jgriffith | ttx: yeah... see ya in Portland | 13:09 |
| ttx | ah cool, see you there! | 13:09 |
| jgriffith | russellb: I'll be on and off IRC but I'll be sure to synch up with you | 13:10 |
| russellb | jgriffith: perfect. feel free to drop an email if that's easier for you | 13:10 |
| jgriffith | russellb: sounds good | 13:10 |
| ttx | russellb: i can physically push him to connect if needed | 13:10 |
| russellb | jgriffith: you've been through this several times, so i know you know the drill :) | 13:10 |
| russellb | ttx: wooo | 13:10 |
| jgriffith | ttx: haha!! Literally even | 13:10 |
| jgriffith | russellb: should be smooth, just getting everything through | 13:11 |
| russellb | sounds good | 13:11 |
| ttx | jgriffith: ok, ttyl! | 13:11 |
| jgriffith | ttx: cya.. thanks | 13:12 |
| russellb | cya! | 13:12 |
| ttx | russellb: the autokick script dramatically reduced the need for those 1:1s | 13:12 |
| ttx | although I guess talking once a week with people can't hurt | 13:13 |
| russellb | ttx: yep, i think it's good to make sure these things stay top of mind week to week | 13:13 |
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| ttx | dolphm: around? | 14:15 |
| dolphm | ttx: o/ | 14:15 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone | 14:15 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/juno-2 | 14:16 |
| ttx | Looks reasonable | 14:16 |
| ttx | dolphm: any possible last-minute addition, fresh from -specs approval? | 14:16 |
| dolphm | we did approve ~5 specs last week at our hackathon - i don't *think* any of them will be implemented in j2 though | 14:17 |
| ttx | #info spec backlog: 18 | 14:17 |
| ttx | ok | 14:17 |
| ttx | dolphm: russellb will handle J2 tagging | 14:17 |
| ttx | and we'll skip the usual 1:1s next week | 14:18 |
| russellb | i'll be in touch next week to confirm when J2 is ready | 14:18 |
| russellb | feel free to ping me anytime to discuss | 14:18 |
| dolphm | json-home is a spec we approved last week & has an implementation available - if it's close to being ready, that one would be an easy j2 target | 14:19 |
| dolphm | but that looks like the only one | 14:19 |
| dolphm | ttx: russellb: tagging sounds good | 14:19 |
| ttx | dolphm: any agenda addition for the meeting today? | 14:19 |
| dolphm | ttx: a quick announcement regarding keystoneclient.middleware.auth_token -> keystonemiddleware.auth_token | 14:19 |
| dolphm | let me do an #info here.. | 14:20 |
| ttx | yes, #info it and feel free to insist on it when we go over the 1:1s notes at the meeting | 14:20 |
| dolphm | #info keystoneclient.middleware.auth_token has been split into a new package, keystonemiddleware.auth_token - we'll need to update every project's default pipeline to adopt the new middleware | 14:21 |
| ttx | dolphm: you could use a bug number to track all corresponding tasks | 14:21 |
| dolphm | #info keystoneclient.middleware.auth_token will continue to receive security updates | 14:21 |
| ttx | that will facilitate making sure all bases are covered | 14:22 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: do we have a bug number to track the above change? ^ | 14:22 |
| ttx | dolphm: ok, that's all I had | 14:22 |
| dolphm | me too - i'll make sure there's a bug if not | 14:23 |
| ttx | dolphm: ok, ttyl | 14:24 |
| dolphm | o/ | 14:25 |
| russellb | dolphm: doing something to enable backwards compat for that change? | 14:30 |
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| dolphm | russellb: yes, we're leaving keystoneclient.middlware.auth_token alone :) | 14:31 |
| ttx | david-lyle: o/ | 14:31 |
| dolphm | russellb: we can't import from keystonemiddleware.auth_token because that would create a circular dep | 14:31 |
| russellb | dolphm: cool. could eventually make it a trivial import of the new thing. | 14:31 |
| david-lyle | ttx: o/ | 14:31 |
| russellb | dolphm: ah. | 14:31 |
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| ttx | #topic Horizon | 14:31 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/juno-2 | 14:32 |
| ttx | 37 blueprints left | 14:32 |
| ttx | Lots of them in review | 14:32 |
| david-lyle | almost all are up for review | 14:32 |
| david-lyle | someone added another after I cleaned up yesterday | 14:33 |
| david-lyle | I'll boot that | 14:33 |
| ttx | david-lyle: i would suggest focusing on those that are almost there, to maximize the number of completed blueprints | 14:33 |
| ttx | also merging early is a good idea as I expect the load on gate to ramp up pretty soon | 14:34 |
| david-lyle | we have been, the Sahara one has been the top priority and eating up a lot of review bandwidth | 14:34 |
| david-lyle | a lot | 14:34 |
| ttx | david-lyle: yes, Sergey was mentioning good progress on that front | 14:34 |
| david-lyle | we have several more of the Sahara patches that are very close | 14:34 |
| ttx | also don't hesitate to defer stuff that's unlikely to make it, that can help in prioritizing as well | 14:35 |
| SergeyLukjanov | david-lyle, thank you for bumping the sahara reviews prio! | 14:35 |
| ttx | yes, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/mac-learning-knobs was just added | 14:35 |
| ttx | russellb: Nb: Horizon is not using autokick.py yet | 14:35 |
| david-lyle | sure, I did some paring yesterday and will get more status in the Horizon team meeting | 14:35 |
| russellb | ttx: why not? | 14:35 |
| ttx | russellb: so it is vulnerable to random additions by bystanders | 14:35 |
| ttx | russellb: it's not using -specs | 14:36 |
| russellb | ah | 14:36 |
| ttx | russellb: so the blueprint is still the correct way to propose a feature | 14:36 |
| russellb | and actually i think i missed what autokick.py was ... | 14:36 |
| ttx | russellb: it's a script I have running (in the cloud!) that removes milestone targts for blueprints without a priority | 14:36 |
| russellb | ttx: ah, cool. | 14:37 |
| ttx | so that we can use the priority field to also mean "approved" | 14:37 |
| russellb | ttx: and that includes also checking for an approved spec or something? | 14:37 |
| david-lyle | now I want to move to a specs repo just for that | 14:37 |
| ttx | since it's one of the very few LP restricts | 14:37 |
| russellb | or just that projects with specs repos have less people doing random LP edits | 14:37 |
| ttx | russellb: no, random people just can't set the priority field. So when a spec is approved, you set priority and target milestone | 14:37 |
| ttx | if random people just set target milestone, the script will boot them off | 14:38 |
| russellb | gotcha | 14:38 |
| ttx | (it's a workaround the fact that LP just lets anyone set the target milestone) | 14:38 |
| russellb | but people could do that for a specs using project too presumably .. | 14:38 |
| ttx | russellb: they could, but then there is no way for people to "propose" a feature | 14:39 |
| ttx | the workflow for proposing features is to file a blueprint and set the target milestone. Then the PTL just triages all the undefined-priority BPs | 14:39 |
| russellb | right | 14:39 |
| ttx | russellb: pretty sure you remember how much that is | 14:39 |
| russellb | yes. | 14:39 |
| ttx | how much fun that is, I mean | 14:39 |
| russellb | oh yes. | 14:40 |
| russellb | david-lyle: so the reason i'm around today is that i'm handling the J2 tag next week | 14:40 |
| david-lyle | russellb: excellent | 14:40 |
| russellb | david-lyle: so we'll need to stay in touch early next week to confirm when your J2 is ready to go | 14:40 |
| david-lyle | sounds good | 14:40 |
| ttx | david-lyle: so yes, keep on refining the list | 14:40 |
| david-lyle | will do | 14:41 |
| ttx | david-lyle: any specific topic you wanted to discuss at meeting today? | 14:41 |
| david-lyle | ttx: no, I think we're set | 14:41 |
| ttx | david-lyle: ok, back to reviewing then :) | 14:41 |
| ttx | that's a pretty impressive list of BPs | 14:42 |
| david-lyle | ttx: it's an honest living | 14:42 |
| david-lyle | reviewing all day | 14:42 |
| ttx | mestery: ready when you are | 14:42 |
| mestery | ttx: o/ | 14:42 |
| ttx | #topic Neutron | 14:43 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/juno-2 | 14:43 |
| mestery | I spent yesterday and this morning pruning this list a bit. | 14:43 |
| ttx | a bit late, but not completely crazy | 14:43 |
| mestery | We have a LOT of things in flight at the moment. | 14:43 |
| mestery | ttx: ++ | 14:44 |
| ttx | there are two "unknown" in there | 14:44 |
| mestery | Yes, I need to move one out to J3 and the other one I need to talk to the committer | 14:44 |
| mestery | Expect those to be resolved within the hour | 14:44 |
| ttx | mestery: ok, just keep on refining, and merge those taht are nearly complete as soon as possible... | 14:45 |
| mestery | ttx: Yes sir, that's the plan, been working with the other cores on that this week. | 14:45 |
| ttx | mestery: as previously said, russellb will handle j2 tagging next week | 14:46 |
| mestery | OK, cool! | 14:46 |
| mestery | Will keep in contact with you over the next week russellb. | 14:46 |
| russellb | mestery: great | 14:46 |
| ttx | mestery: how is the SPD deadline working for you ? | 14:46 |
| mestery | ttx: SPD worked quite well, SAD also is going ok. | 14:47 |
| mestery | I've spent hours pouring over specs, moving some to K, etc. | 14:47 |
| ttx | oh, you're past SAD now? | 14:47 |
| * ttx checks | 14:47 | |
| mestery | SAD is this weekend, almost quite literally | 14:47 |
| mestery | 7-20 | 14:47 |
| ttx | ah ok | 14:47 |
| mestery | But, I'm premptively working to close out things before that. | 14:47 |
| mestery | And narrowing thigns down. | 14:47 |
| mestery | Overall, I've been happy with SPD/SAD, and would recommend it to other projects that are looking at the same sort of thing. | 14:48 |
| ttx | mestery: when do you plan to reopen specs for K? after feature freeze ? or at RC1 ? | 14:48 |
| mestery | ttx: I think closer to RC1 to try to focus people on J3 issues and bugs near the end of J. | 14:48 |
| ttx | mestery: do you still expect some late approvals to sneak into j2, or that would be definitely j3 material ? | 14:49 |
| mestery | ttx: I don't expect anything else to be added to J2. | 14:49 |
| mestery | It's all J3 from here on out. | 14:49 |
| ttx | #info no addition expected to j2 | 14:50 |
| ttx | #info spec backlog: 140 | 14:50 |
| ttx | mestery: so we won't have our usual 1:1 discussion next week | 14:51 |
| mestery | ttx: Got it, have fun at OSCON! | 14:51 |
| ttx | will try! | 14:51 |
| ttx | mestery: anything to add to meeting agenda for today? | 14:51 |
| mestery | ttx: Not much, if you want, I could talk about SPD/SAD since there weren't many projects which did this to my knowledge. | 14:52 |
| mestery | Other than that, I'm good. | 14:52 |
| ttx | mestery: I already added a topic to discuss if specs is increasing or decreasing the predictability of features | 14:52 |
| mestery | ttx: perfect | 14:53 |
| ttx | and SPD/SAD definitely helps in that area, so on topic :) | 14:53 |
| mestery | :) | 14:53 |
| ttx | mestery: ok, talk to you then | 14:53 |
| mestery | ttx: later! | 14:53 |
| notmyname | ttx: ready whenever you are | 15:05 |
| ttx | notmyname: on a call, will ping you as soon as I'm out of it | 15:23 |
| notmyname | ok | 15:23 |
| ttx | notmyname: readynow | 15:27 |
| notmyname | ttx: good morning | 15:27 |
| ttx | #topic Swift | 15:27 |
| notmyname | ttx: I think all I've got is the gap analysis | 15:27 |
| notmyname | for the TC | 15:28 |
| ttx | notmyname: good reception for Swift 2.0.0 so far? | 15:28 |
| notmyname | ttx: yes, I think so. several articles written. even had a new deployer come to us (swiftstack) with a specific use case for storage policies | 15:28 |
| ttx | notmyname: we'll likely have that gap analysis on July 29 or August 5, unless the meeting is not cancelled next week | 15:29 |
| * notmyname checks calendar | 15:29 | |
| ttx | but I expect OSCON will make us cancel it | 15:30 |
| ttx | We'll see better when we discuss it today | 15:30 |
| notmyname | ttx: the 29th I have an on-site customer meeting. unlikely to be available by meeting time (1pm pacific). the 5th I'm free | 15:30 |
| notmyname | also, next week is good for me too, if the meeting happens | 15:31 |
| ttx | Sounds good to me -- on Jul 29 we need to go through progress on the existing gap coverage plans anyway | 15:31 |
| ttx | (post-j2) | 15:31 |
| ttx | notmyname: so next week if that's happening, or August 5th | 15:31 |
| notmyname | correct | 15:32 |
| notmyname | I took the doc you sent me an filled out short answers (mostly "done" or "N/A") | 15:32 |
| ttx | notmyname: ack | 15:33 |
| notmyname | should I send my draft to you first to review? would that help anything go smoother in the meeting? | 15:33 |
| ttx | notmyname: do you think you'll have one or two more juno releases ? | 15:33 |
| ttx | notmyname: we can post the link to the etherpad in advance of that TC meeting | 15:34 |
| notmyname | ok | 15:34 |
| ttx | notmyname: discussion usually quickly focuses on a few key points | 15:34 |
| notmyname | does juno RC start in september or october? | 15:34 |
| ttx | notmyname: the etherpad lets us go fast on obvious stuff | 15:34 |
| ttx | Final release October 16 | 15:34 |
| ttx | RCs start last week of Sept | 15:35 |
| ttx | so an intermediary release would be ~ end of August | 15:36 |
| notmyname | ok, I'll shoot for 2 releases then...ya, exactly that :-) | 15:36 |
| notmyname | ie in about a month, and then another right at the RC | 15:36 |
| ttx | ok | 15:36 |
| notmyname | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_gap_analysis | 15:36 |
| ttx | notmyname: ack | 15:37 |
| ttx | notmyname: that's all I had | 15:37 |
| ttx | anything you want to talk about at meeting today? | 15:37 |
| notmyname | great. me too. if you look over the etherpad, you'll see that there is one section with ??? as the answer | 15:38 |
| notmyname | * The lifecycle of resources managed by the project should be externalized | 15:38 |
| notmyname | via notifications so that they can be consumed by other integrated | 15:38 |
| notmyname | projects | 15:38 |
| notmyname | I don't know what that means | 15:38 |
| notmyname | (no I don't have anything to bring up in the meeting) | 15:38 |
| ttx | it might be a n/a in your case | 15:40 |
| ttx | I think what it's calling for is integration with ceilometer | 15:40 |
| ttx | but you'll be able to raise it at that meeting | 15:41 |
| notmyname | ok. that was covered in another question ("done"), but it almost sounds like some sort of queue/message bus/notification system | 15:41 |
| ttx | ok, that's all I had | 15:41 |
| notmyname | me too | 15:43 |
| ttx | #info current plan is to shoot for another release before the final synced one, rough eta end of August | 15:43 |
| ttx | notmyname: thanks! | 15:43 |
| ttx | zaneb: ready when you are | 15:43 |
| zaneb | hey | 15:43 |
| ttx | #topic Heat | 15:44 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/juno-2 | 15:44 |
| ttx | zaneb: is that current ? makes it look like the bottleneck is development and not review in heat | 15:45 |
| ttx | (other projects have much more "needs code review" at this stage | 15:45 |
| ttx | ) | 15:45 |
| zaneb | the bottleneck is that everyone is too busy reviewing to develop :D | 15:45 |
| zaneb | I just changed the status on Randall's bp to 'needs code review' | 15:46 |
| ttx | zaneb: ok -- are all those still likely to get completed this week? Or is it time for early deferrals ? | 15:46 |
| zaneb | mine probably should be deferred | 15:47 |
| ttx | zaneb: any last minute surprise likely to be added, or is that plan final? | 15:47 |
| ttx | #info spec backlog: 17 | 15:47 |
| zaneb | I can't imagine any additions at this stage | 15:48 |
| ttx | #info no last minute addition expected to j2 | 15:48 |
| ttx | you ahve a number of unassigned bugs on the j2 target. I fear that if they are not assigned very soon, they will likely miss | 15:48 |
| ttx | so maybe use the next Heat meeting to get them assigned or deferred | 15:49 |
| ttx | zaneb: note that russellb will be handling next week juno-2 tagging | 15:49 |
| russellb | zaneb: o/ | 15:49 |
| zaneb | russellb: \o | 15:49 |
| russellb | zaneb: so, i'll be in touch next week to confirm when you're ready to go with j2 | 15:50 |
| ttx | so when you're happy with a tag, communicate that to him. And he will be the one chasing you down so that you fall in the launch window | 15:50 |
| zaneb | russellb: ok, cool | 15:50 |
| zaneb | I will follow up on the unassigned high priority bugs | 15:51 |
| ttx | zaneb: any topic you want to discuss at the cross-project meeting later ? | 15:51 |
| zaneb | and make sure someone is on them | 15:51 |
| zaneb | ttx: nope | 15:51 |
| ttx | ok then, talk to you later! | 15:51 |
| zaneb | thanks, see you later! | 15:51 |
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| ttx | SlickNik: o/ | 16:09 |
| SlickNik | Hey ttx | 16:10 |
| ttx | #topic Trove | 16:10 |
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| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/juno-2 | 16:10 |
| ttx | markwash: missed your turn :) | 16:10 |
| ttx | SlickNik: status looks good, although one week from juno-2 you can probably start to defer things | 16:11 |
| markwash | brb | 16:11 |
| SlickNik | ttx: Lots of BPs in review. Trying to get those done and implemented. | 16:11 |
| ttx | SlickNik: try to push those that are 99% there in priority. that will maximize the number of them you get "implemented" | 16:11 |
| ttx | will also help with gate load next week | 16:12 |
| ttx | talkign abot next week, russellb will be handling the juno-2 milestone release process, so he will be your point of contact | 16:12 |
| SlickNik | ttx: Yes. Also, I need to defer some of the unstarted bugs to juno-3. | 16:12 |
| SlickNik | ttx: will do that today. | 16:12 |
| russellb | SlickNik: o/ | 16:12 |
| ttx | goal is still to tag sometimes between Tuesday and Thursday | 16:12 |
| russellb | i'll be in touch next week to confirm when juno-2 is wrapped up | 16:12 |
| SlickNik | Awesome, thanks for the help with the tagging russellb | 16:13 |
| russellb | yep np | 16:13 |
| russellb | as long as things get deferred, my job is super easy :) | 16:13 |
| russellb | completed or deferred, rather | 16:14 |
| ttx | SlickNik: that's allk I had -- any topic for the meeting today ? | 16:14 |
| SlickNik | ttx: nope, that's all I had as well. Just chugging along towards juno-2. :) | 16:15 |
| ttx | yay, that's the spirit | 16:15 |
| ttx | markwash: ready? | 16:15 |
| markwash | ttx: yup! | 16:15 |
| SlickNik | ttx: Thanks. see you in a bit! | 16:15 |
| ttx | #topic Glance | 16:15 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/juno-2 | 16:16 |
| ttx | Looks a bit... late | 16:16 |
| markwash | yes it does | 16:16 |
| ttx | Still think they can all make it ? | 16:16 |
| markwash | we can probably land gpfs and bump the other two | 16:17 |
| ttx | markwash: well, better have 1 done than try to land the 3 and get nothing | 16:17 |
| ttx | so feel free to defer early | 16:17 |
| markwash | sounds about right | 16:18 |
| ttx | #info spec backlog: 12 | 16:18 |
| ttx | anything is there likely to make a surprise last-minute rush to j2 ? | 16:18 |
| ttx | in* | 16:18 |
| markwash | no I don't think so | 16:19 |
| ttx | markwash: ok. Note that russellb will be your host for j2 tagging next week | 16:19 |
| russellb | markwash: o/ | 16:19 |
| markwash | cool | 16:19 |
| ttx | so he will be the one chasing you down and deferring all your missed blueprints | 16:19 |
| markwash | hmm | 16:19 |
| markwash | we'll be aiming to tag on tuesday? | 16:20 |
| markwash | or thursday? | 16:20 |
| * ttx steps back and lets russellb answer | 16:20 | |
| markwash | glance mini summit is thursday and friday | 16:20 |
| russellb | the earlier the better | 16:20 |
| russellb | if you can be ready tuesday, that'd be great | 16:20 |
| markwash | I'll aim for that | 16:21 |
| russellb | perfect | 16:21 |
| ttx | markwash: ok, anything to add to the meeting agenda ? | 16:21 |
| markwash | nothing from me | 16:21 |
| ttx | markwash: we'll skip the 1:1s next week, btw | 16:21 |
| ttx | SlickNik: ^ same | 16:21 |
| markwash | okay | 16:21 |
| SlickNik | ttx: got it | 16:22 |
| ttx | notmyname: ^ same | 16:22 |
| * ttx realizes he missed a few notifications | 16:22 | |
| notmyname | ack | 16:22 |
| ttx | markwash: that's all I had | 16:22 |
| markwash | ttx: thanks! sorry I was late | 16:22 |
| ttx | markwash: no problem, SlickNik was early ;) | 16:23 |
| ttx | that concludes the syncs for today, thanks everyone | 16:23 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 16:23 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 15 16:23:19 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-07-15-09.01.html | 16:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-07-15-09.01.txt | 16:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-07-15-09.01.log.html | 16:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ttx: bit late for today, but made some updates to the milestone: https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/juno-2 | 18:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: need to sort out juno-3 a little too really | 18:09 |
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| russellb | zz_johnthetubagu: updates look good ... still probably too much to get reviewed in time, but we'll just see what makes it by early next week | 20:08 |
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