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| Kiall | Heya - ttx about? | 12:29 |
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| Kiall | brb - 1 min | 12:31 |
| Kiall | back | 12:33 |
| Kiall | I have a strange feeling ttx isn't here today ;) ttx - if you are, ping me and I'll come back :) | 12:34 |
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| ttx | Kiall: o/ | 12:43 |
| ttx | oops | 12:43 |
| Kiall | ttx: heya | 12:43 |
| ttx | sorry about that :) Was in the middle of a discussion | 12:44 |
| ttx | #startmeeting incub_sync | 12:44 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 10 12:44:15 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:44 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:44 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'incub_sync' | 12:44 |
| ttx | #topic Designate | 12:44 |
| Kiall | No problem | 12:44 |
| Kiall | I missed the first one ;) | 12:44 |
| ttx | so I updated the PTL guide | 12:45 |
| ttx | to reflect current state | 12:45 |
| Kiall | I saw, thank you. | 12:45 |
| ttx | Also updated the Branch model | 12:45 |
| ttx | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Branch_Model | 12:45 |
| Kiall | I started reading it yesterday - but got sidetracked by an issue | 12:45 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/juno-2 | 12:46 |
| ttx | Looks good, two remarks | 12:46 |
| ttx | "Undefined" priorities: you should set a priority there | 12:46 |
| ttx | In most reporting we ignore blueprints that don't have a priority set | 12:47 |
| ttx | since it's the only field the PTL and other drivers control | 12:47 |
| Kiall | Sure - I'll update those after out meeting | 12:47 |
| ttx | so it lets us make sure you blessed it | 12:47 |
| ttx | and it wasn't just added by some random bystander | 12:47 |
| Kiall | Ahh - Okay, so it's more important than simple priority then :) | 12:47 |
| ttx | if "Undefined" we consider it's not really approved, basically | 12:47 |
| ttx | we play tricks around Launchpad limitations :) | 12:48 |
| Kiall | Noted - I'll make sure the core team knows this and update the current BPs | 12:48 |
| ttx | Second remark is about zone-migration-between-tenants | 12:48 |
| ttx | it's not started but targeted to j2 | 12:48 |
| ttx | so unless it's really small, it probably will miss the mark | 12:48 |
| Kiall | Ah - I expect Graham will have that up for review before Monday | 12:48 |
| ttx | ok, so he probably started working on it :) | 12:48 |
| Kiall | while DNSupdate API - simplified DDNS update does need to be pushed | 12:49 |
| ttx | so status shall be "Started" | 12:49 |
| Kiall | I'll give him a slap on the wrist for not keeping it updated ;) | 12:49 |
| ttx | does taht list reflect all that's being currently added ? | 12:50 |
| Kiall | Not quite - I believe there is 1 "MiniDNS" BP not targeted to j2 which rackspace surprised us with a review for last night. | 12:50 |
| ttx | ok, so probably worth a add | 12:50 |
| ttx | As far as J2 goes, it's just about giving the milestone release manager a SHA that you're comfortable with to mark the milestone | 12:51 |
| ttx | (at the same time, defer incomplete bugs and features to next milestone) | 12:51 |
| Kiall | yes, during release week - preferably not on the day I believe :) | 12:51 |
| * ttx shall create juno-" milestone there | 12:51 | |
| ttx | juno-3 | 12:51 |
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| Kiall | I was just trying to do that - I guess I lost permission when I reassigned to Openstack Admins? | 12:51 |
| ttx | no, you should be able to do that as a Designate driver | 12:52 |
| ttx | but don't worry i'll do it | 12:52 |
| Kiall | Then LP just has me confused - it usually does. | 12:52 |
| Kiall | Should I be able to create it from here? https://launchpad.net/designate/juno (Just looking for future reference) | 12:53 |
| ttx | yes | 12:53 |
| ttx | there should be a "create milestone" link somewhere | 12:54 |
| Kiall | Ctrl+F "create" .. 0 results.. weird | 12:54 |
| ttx | do you see the Milestones and releases" list ? | 12:54 |
| Kiall | yes | 12:55 |
| ttx | Just below it is a "Create milestone Create release" line? | 12:55 |
| ttx | (I suspect there isn't for you) | 12:55 |
| Kiall | There isn't :) | 12:55 |
| ttx | Hmm, are you logged in ? How about going to https://launchpad.net/designate/juno/+addmilestone directly ? | 12:55 |
| Kiall | Not allowed here | 12:55 |
| Kiall | I think I see it though | 12:55 |
| Kiall | I'm a member of drivers via the included designate-core group | 12:56 |
| Kiall | I can fix that later, I'm still admin on the groups | 12:56 |
| ttx | hmm, still a bit weird | 12:56 |
| Kiall | And.. That didn't do it | 12:57 |
| Kiall | Funny enough.. https://launchpad.net/designate/+addseries works.. So.. I expect it's a LP bug | 12:57 |
| ttx | Hmm. On https://launchpad.net/~designate-drivers does it make you a member of the team ? | 12:57 |
| ttx | should show "you are a member" or something | 12:58 |
| Kiall | Owner: | 12:58 |
| Kiall | Kiall Mac Innes | 12:58 |
| Kiall | and direct members list includes me | 12:58 |
| Kiall | "You own this team." | 12:58 |
| ttx | hmm | 12:58 |
| Kiall | I suspect it's LP being .. LP, It'll probably work in an hour :) | 12:59 |
| ttx | hmm, no, in fact you need to stay maintainer | 13:00 |
| ttx | that's what the other projects di | 13:00 |
| ttx | do | 13:00 |
| Kiall | doh :) | 13:00 |
| ttx | let me check something first | 13:00 |
| ttx | ah. got it | 13:01 |
| ttx | so the project shall have designate-drivers as maintainers, but designate-drivers shall be owned to openstack-admins | 13:01 |
| ttx | the openstack-admins removes itself from the group | 13:01 |
| ttx | but can still assume admin in case we need to maintain the group content for some reason | 13:01 |
| * ttx fixes | 13:02 | |
| ttx | Kiall: can you change owner on https://launchpad.net/~designate-drivers ? (to ~openstack-admins) ? | 13:02 |
| * ttx fixes maintainer on designate project itself | 13:02 | |
| Kiall | Done - should I do the same for designate-core? | 13:03 |
| ttx | Kiall: you can add yourself as direct member and "admin" before changing owner | 13:03 |
| Kiall | Already done | 13:03 |
| ttx | Kiall: yes | 13:03 |
| ttx | basically all groups are owned by openstack-admins so that we can fix stuff (without being part of the groups themselves) | 13:04 |
| ttx | sorry I made you grant te wrong perms last week :) | 13:04 |
| Kiall | No problem -core and -drivers changed | 13:04 |
| * ttx removes openstack-admins from the members list | 13:05 | |
| ttx | so we can assume admin, but you'll see if we do :) | 13:05 |
| ttx | Kiall: ok, you should see the "create milestone" thing now | 13:05 |
| Kiall | Yes, that works now :) | 13:06 |
| ttx | ...and that will be enough for this week :) | 13:06 |
| ttx | Talk to you next week! | 13:06 |
| Kiall | Thanks :) | 13:06 |
| Kiall | (BTW I've started fixing the BPs etc @ https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/juno-2 ) | 13:06 |
| ttx | ack | 13:07 |
| Kiall | Note to self: enforce BP links in commit messages -_- | 13:08 |
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| ttx | jraim: around? | 15:31 |
| jraim | yep | 15:31 |
| ttx | #topic Barbican | 15:31 |
| ttx | jraim: hi! | 15:32 |
| ttx | I actually made you make wrong launchpad changes recently | 15:32 |
| ttx | so I need to fix that | 15:32 |
| jraim | ha, oh really? Which ones were those? | 15:32 |
| ttx | apparently if you're not a "maintainer" you can't do some things on the project anymore | 15:33 |
| ttx | so barbican-drivers needs to be project maintainer | 15:33 |
| ttx | and openstack-admins needs to "own" it | 15:33 |
| jraim | ahh, okay. That should be easy | 15:33 |
| ttx | so I made the change to return the team as maintainer | 15:34 |
| ttx | Douglas Mendizábal will need to set ownership of https://launchpad.net/~barbican-drivers to ~openstack-admins | 15:34 |
| ttx | since he is the current owner | 15:34 |
| jraim | okay, I'll let him know | 15:34 |
| ttx | (fwiw I'll remove openstack-amdins from the team members, they just need to "own" the team | 15:35 |
| ttx | sorry for the confusion | 15:35 |
| jraim | no worries | 15:35 |
| ttx | Looking at https://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/juno-2 | 15:35 |
| ttx | I see two "not started" blueprints still being targeted at j2 | 15:36 |
| ttx | is that smallish enough to make it in time ? | 15:36 |
| jraim | We landed a _lot_ of stuff at the mid-cycle. We're catching Launchpad up today | 15:36 |
| ttx | ok, just add stuff to it | 15:37 |
| jraim | Will do | 15:37 |
| ttx | Like I told Kiall earlier, I refreshed https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Guide, so it's current again | 15:37 |
| jraim | oh great, I'll take a look | 15:38 |
| ttx | As far as J2 goes, it will just be about giving the milestone release manager a SHA that you're comfortable with to mark the milestone, sometimes between Tuesday and Thursday on the J2 week | 15:38 |
| ttx | (and at the same time, defer incomplete bugs and features to next milestone) | 15:39 |
| jraim | perfect. We talked a bit about it at the mid-cycle. We're mostly in bug fix / clean up mode to be ready for the j2 | 15:39 |
| ttx | That's all I had... questions? | 15:39 |
| jraim | Nothing from us right now | 15:40 |
| ttx | ok, talk to you next week then | 15:40 |
| ttx | kgriffs: around? | 15:40 |
| kgriffs | yep | 15:41 |
| ttx | #topic Marconi | 15:41 |
| ttx | Just fixed permissions for marconi-drivers on the LP project | 15:41 |
| ttx | should be all ok now | 15:41 |
| kgriffs | cool | 15:41 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/marconi/+milestone/juno-2 | 15:42 |
| ttx | Looks a bit behind, is the status there current? | 15:42 |
| ttx | (juno-2 is in 12-14 days) | 15:42 |
| kgriffs | I just started looking at it this morning. I've been on vacation the past week, so missed the last team meeting. | 15:43 |
| kgriffs | But I agree, we need to get things moving and/or shift some priorities | 15:43 |
| ttx | ok, will you have that cleanup done by next week? | 15:43 |
| kgriffs | yep | 15:43 |
| kgriffs | will do | 15:43 |
| ttx | ok, we'll look at it then | 15:44 |
| ttx | #info J2 plan to be cleaned up for review next week | 15:44 |
| ttx | kgriffs: did you have questions about J2 and/or the milestone tagging process? | 15:44 |
| * ttx refreshed https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Guide and https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BranchModel to reflect new world order | 15:45 | |
| kgriffs | ttx: nope. I'm assuming the tagging process will be the same as for j-1 ? | 15:45 |
| ttx | kgriffs: yes | 15:45 |
| ttx | just shout a SHA and it will serve as the time milestone | 15:46 |
| kgriffs | sounds like a plan | 15:46 |
| ttx | kgriffs: I see project rename up there... what's your plan for that? Do you think it can be done for J2? | 15:46 |
| ttx | Did you pick a new name already? | 15:47 |
| ttx | (I know name vetting takes forver those days) | 15:47 |
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| kgriffs | for sure | 15:47 |
| kgriffs | seems like all the best names are taken | 15:47 |
| kgriffs | the team settled on a Hindi name, Naav. Means boat or something. | 15:48 |
| ttx | the easiest is to come up with an imaginary name combo | 15:48 |
| ttx | like HorseBatteryStaple. | 15:48 |
| kgriffs | heh | 15:48 |
| kgriffs | anyway, we may need to push the name change to j-3 so we can get api 1.1 squared away | 15:48 |
| ttx | ok | 15:48 |
| ttx | makes sense | 15:48 |
| kgriffs | I was hoping the team would make some progress on the renaming while I was out but I don't see any patches. | 15:49 |
| ttx | that's all I had... did you have questions? | 15:49 |
| kgriffs | To be fully transparent, I wanted to let you know that I may be transitioning to a new role at Rackspace and may need to step down from the PTL role. Nothing for sure yet. | 15:50 |
| kgriffs | but, we may need to do a mid-cycle election or however that works. | 15:51 |
| ttx | kgriffs: oh, ok. no issue | 15:51 |
| ttx | kgriffs: you can do it two ways | 15:51 |
| ttx | you can name someone as your permanent delegate until the next election | 15:51 |
| ttx | or you can run mid-term elections | 15:51 |
| ttx | all depends how close you are from the end of the cycle | 15:52 |
| ttx | both solutions are "acceptable" from our governance standpoint | 15:52 |
| kgriffs | Got it. I just want to make sure the transition is done responsibly. | 15:52 |
| ttx | ok. Talk to you next week, then! | 15:52 |
| ttx | devananda: around? | 15:52 |
| devananda | ttx: hi! | 15:52 |
| kgriffs | kk, ttfn | 15:52 |
| ttx | #topic Ironic | 15:53 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/juno-2 | 15:53 |
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| devananda | so as you can see, we got a few specs approved this week and targeted | 15:53 |
| devananda | the code for those is already under review | 15:53 |
| devananda | one more spec that got approved is probably not ready in time -- https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/send-data-to-ceilometer | 15:54 |
| devananda | so i've set that for J3 | 15:54 |
| ttx | so shall I move from unknown to NeedsCodeReview ? | 15:54 |
| devananda | ah - right. i'll fix | 15:54 |
| ttx | If they are all under code review, looks like good progress | 15:55 |
| ttx | expecting more to appear in that list ? | 15:55 |
| devananda | possibly one or two in the next few days | 15:55 |
| ttx | ok | 15:55 |
| devananda | i think we are starting to get better with specs, but there's still many folks writing code and spec at the same time | 15:56 |
| devananda | so the time lag between approving a spec and beign able to land the code is fairly small | 15:56 |
| ttx | how is the ironic driver integration coming up in Nova? | 15:56 |
| devananda | i'm not sure that's good or bad yet - it's certainly different than last cycle | 15:56 |
| devananda | the code for that has been up for a few weeks now, without really getting feedback | 15:56 |
| ttx | do you have links I could try to make more popular? | 15:57 |
| devananda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103165/ | 15:57 |
| devananda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103167/ | 15:57 |
| devananda | I will be porting several more commits from ironic into the second patch set above | 15:57 |
| devananda | as we've been continuing to fix things and work on tempest coverage | 15:58 |
| devananda | another large effort in the last week or two has been by adam_g and Shrews, working with the -qa team | 15:58 |
| ttx | hmm, ok. Hopefully the nova midcycle sprint will help iterate on that | 15:58 |
| devananda | to get things into shape where Ironic can pass a full tempest/api/compute run | 15:58 |
| devananda | that's led to adding feature flags to tempest and to fixing several things in our driver code | 15:59 |
| devananda | that work is being tracked here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicCI | 16:00 |
| ttx | ok | 16:00 |
| ttx | that's all I had -- questions? | 16:00 |
| devananda | not for J2 - i feel pretty comfortable with our progress, though it's still slower than I'd like, but i'm getting used to that | 16:00 |
| ttx | heh, ok | 16:01 |
| ttx | I think that concludes the day | 16:01 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 10 16:01:31 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/incub_sync/2014/incub_sync.2014-07-10-12.44.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/incub_sync/2014/incub_sync.2014-07-10-12.44.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/incub_sync/2014/incub_sync.2014-07-10-12.44.log.html | 16:01 |
| ttx | Thanks for your time! | 16:01 |
| devananda | cheers, thank you! | 16:01 |
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