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markmcclain | ttx: ping me when you're ready | 13:02 |
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jd__ | I think ttx is traveling or something? | 13:31 |
ttx | hey | 13:37 |
ttx | jd__: yes, the 1:1s will be a bit shuffled around this morning, I'm on Mountain time | 13:38 |
jd__ | ttx: let me know when you're done with your breakfast then :) | 13:38 |
ttx | just a sec | 13:39 |
anteaya | ttx markmcclain is in PST this week and has gone back to bed | 13:41 |
anteaya | *on PST | 13:41 |
ttx | anteaya: ok | 13:42 |
ttx | I'm on MST so we can talk later | 13:42 |
anteaya | k | 13:43 |
ttx | jd__: will do John now and then jd | 13:46 |
jd__ | ttx: k | 13:46 |
* ttx tries to catch up with regular times | 13:46 | |
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jgriffith | ttx: hola | 13:47 |
ttx | hi! | 13:47 |
jgriffith | ttx: so not much movement | 13:47 |
jgriffith | ttx: but I think it's understandable what's going on there | 13:47 |
ttx | yeah, I fear that will be the same for everyone | 13:47 |
jgriffith | sadly yes | 13:47 |
jgriffith | the week-end trick didn't even work this time around :( | 13:47 |
jgriffith | ttx: so what are your thoughts... | 13:48 |
jgriffith | ttx: defer mp or defer eveything in them? | 13:48 |
ttx | I'm considering pushing back one week | 13:48 |
ttx | because one or two days won't help | 13:48 |
jgriffith | assuming things get sorted you're correct | 13:48 |
jgriffith | currently takes 3 days (63 hours) for a +2/A to merge | 13:48 |
jgriffith | on average at any rate | 13:49 |
ttx | hmm, we'll make the final decision at meeting today | 13:49 |
jgriffith | sounds reasonable | 13:49 |
ttx | but even with an additional week I think it's safe to say if it's not in the pipe right now it won't likely make it | 13:50 |
ttx | https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 13:50 |
jgriffith | ttx: I'd agree on that | 13:50 |
ttx | so should we defer the "started" oe on top of that list ? | 13:50 |
jgriffith | ttx: sure, doing that now | 13:50 |
ttx | everything else is in the queue right now. Right ? | 13:51 |
jgriffith | correct | 13:51 |
jgriffith | except for those two bugs | 13:52 |
ttx | ok. Sounds good. We basically have two options and must choose the less absurd one | 13:52 |
jgriffith | ttx: not a fun place / choice | 13:52 |
ttx | jgriffith: on the bugs side | 13:52 |
ttx | I'd only keep the oes that are in the pipe + the regressions | 13:52 |
jgriffith | ttx: agreed | 13:52 |
ttx | could you clean that up ? | 13:53 |
jgriffith | ttx: I will right now, ys | 13:53 |
jgriffith | yes | 13:53 |
ttx | I'll ask the same for everyone I think | 13:53 |
ttx | that will give us a good view of the in-flight stuff | 13:53 |
jgriffith | probably a reasonable approach | 13:53 |
ttx | which in turn should let us come to a conclusion | 13:53 |
jgriffith | ttx: alright, that should be all of them | 13:55 |
jgriffith | ttx: only things left are in the pipe | 13:55 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/vmdk-storage-policy-volume-type | 13:55 |
ttx | that one was probably recently added. Should we set a prio or defer to i3 ? | 13:56 |
jgriffith | wtf is that :) | 13:56 |
ttx | heh | 13:56 |
ttx | if the review on that just started, it's fair to move it to i3 | 13:57 |
jgriffith | Ok, targetted to I2 since it's in progress | 13:57 |
ttx | hmm | 13:57 |
jgriffith | ttx: I did, then changed my mind ;( | 13:57 |
ttx | looks like it's not really all there is | 13:57 |
jgriffith | since it's low it's irrelevant I think | 13:57 |
ttx | hmm, ok | 13:58 |
ttx | it is all there is so fine | 13:58 |
ttx | jgriffith: ok thx! | 13:58 |
ttx | talk to you at meeting later | 13:58 |
jgriffith | ttx: thank you.. see ya this afternoon/evening | 13:58 |
ttx | still have to decide if we keep the TC meeting today | 13:58 |
jgriffith | I think I'm going to be spending my time looking at the gate again | 13:59 |
jgriffith | so the extra time is always nice | 13:59 |
jgriffith | but I multi-task anyway :) | 13:59 |
ttx | jd__: around? | 14:00 |
jd__ | ttx: o/ | 14:00 |
ttx | looks like https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/icehouse-2 shows inflight stuff already | 14:01 |
* jd__ nods | 14:01 | |
ttx | so I think you're good | 14:02 |
jd__ | yeaaah! :) | 14:02 |
ttx | your i-2 would probably also like to get an extra week of feature in | 14:02 |
jd__ | our main problem is the gate, obviously | 14:02 |
ttx | ack | 14:03 |
ttx | dhellmann: still around? | 14:03 |
jd__ | nothing else otherwise sir | 14:03 |
ttx | nope nothing either | 14:03 |
ttx | jd__: I suspect apart from gate and i2 deferral you don't have anything else urgent to discuss at meeting today ? | 14:04 |
ttx | jgriffith: same question ^ | 14:04 |
jd__ | ttx: nop | 14:04 |
ttx | ok, grabbing shower/breakfast now | 14:14 |
ttx | Expect some disruption around 1:1s meeting times this morning | 14:15 |
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notmyname | ttx: I've got to go to the airport in about an hour. swift status is that we're still waiting on patches to get through the gate for swift 1.12. | 14:49 |
ttx | notmyname: workd for me | 14:50 |
notmyname | for some definition of "works" ;-) | 14:50 |
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ttx | notmyname: If I can be reasonably sure things will actually be better in a week ,makes sense to just push back one week on milestones and versions | 14:51 |
ttx | like you realized earlier | 14:51 |
ttx | If things are not loking better in a week, we've got more... definitive calls to make | 14:51 |
notmyname | ttx: I'm not sure you can be reasonably sure things will be better next week. I'm not currently worried about a certain date for 1.12 (although I'm frustrated that I still don't know when it will be done). I'll send you the SHA when I have it | 14:52 |
ttx | notmyname: ack, safe flights | 14:53 |
notmyname | ttx: thanks. enjoy UT :-) | 14:54 |
russellb | yeah, i'm not sure there's a clear outlook that it will be better next week | 14:58 |
russellb | some of it has been bugs, but some of it sheer volume | 14:59 |
dolphm | (o/) | 15:03 |
russellb | dolphm: a bit above ttx said ... | 15:04 |
russellb | <ttx> ok, grabbing shower/breakfast now | 15:04 |
russellb | <ttx> Expect some disruption around 1:1s meeting times this morning | 15:04 |
russellb | fyi | 15:04 |
dolphm | russellb: ah, danke | 15:05 |
russellb | np | 15:05 |
ttx | dolphm: o/ | 15:05 |
ttx | dolphm: I'M HERE | 15:05 |
dolphm | ttx: YAY | 15:05 |
ttx | https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 15:06 |
ttx | does that represent to currently-in-flight stuff ? | 15:06 |
ttx | s/to/the | 15:06 |
dolphm | only two of those are currently gating: filtering-backend-support, user-locale-api | 15:06 |
ttx | damn this mountain is tempting | 15:06 |
dolphm | identity-providers and mapping are likely to be gating this morning | 15:06 |
ttx | dolphm: should we refine list to only include stuff in-flight ? | 15:06 |
dolphm | revocation-events only just went into review in the last 24 hours, and key-distribution-server has a few patchsets to go (but many merged) -- both seem more realistic for i3 week 1 | 15:07 |
ttx | yes, you should defer them | 15:08 |
ttx | anything not already +2/aprv | 15:08 |
ttx | (by meeting time) | 15:09 |
ttx | dolphm: what about those two bugs. Also in the gate ? | 15:09 |
ttx | russellb: around ? Available to multiplex ? | 15:11 |
dolphm | one is -- i'll get the other moving | 15:11 |
russellb | yep | 15:11 |
ttx | dolphm: try to keep only stuff already gating in the list by meeting time | 15:11 |
dolphm | ttx: will do | 15:11 |
ttx | I'd like to have an accurate view of what's in-flight | 15:11 |
russellb | i'm currently deferring most blueprints | 15:11 |
russellb | unless it's already approved | 15:11 |
ttx | so that we can make a call | 15:11 |
ttx | russellb: yep | 15:12 |
russellb | other than that, gate fire fighting | 15:12 |
ttx | russellb: A tthis point we need to decide if it makes sense to cut milstone this week, we'll discuss that at meeting today | 15:12 |
ttx | dolphm: anything else you want to discuss today ? | 15:13 |
dolphm | ttx: nope! | 15:13 |
ttx | ok, see you there | 15:13 |
russellb | ttx: makes sense | 15:13 |
russellb | i think we just cut it | 15:13 |
russellb | with whatever got done | 15:13 |
dolphm | ttx: ooh, we were blocking heat until recently -- we got the last of the 4 patchsets on our side gating yesterday | 15:13 |
ttx | russellb: I'm fine with deferring, but that requires reasonable confidence an extra week wil actually make things better | 15:13 |
ttx | but that's the topic of meeting discussion | 15:14 |
russellb | sounds good | 15:14 |
ttx | I think there is a lot of bad timing in this current situation | 15:14 |
ttx | but if the problem is more systemic... | 15:14 |
ttx | russellb: on the bugs side | 15:15 |
russellb | need to defer those too, nothing we need to block on | 15:15 |
ttx | russellb: right, keep the in-flight and the regressions in | 15:15 |
ttx | I just added one | 15:15 |
russellb | k | 15:15 |
ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1270845 | 15:15 |
ttx | looks like a regression at first glance, haven't diged into it | 15:16 |
russellb | ack | 15:16 |
russellb | will look before deferring | 15:16 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/ec2-volume-type needs triage | 15:17 |
ttx | prob i3 | 15:17 |
russellb | yes | 15:18 |
russellb | i2 deadline for blueprints was ages ago :) | 15:18 |
ttx | ack | 15:19 |
ttx | anything to discuss besides the urgent gate issues ? | 15:20 |
russellb | no ... gate taking most of my attention the last couple weeks | 15:20 |
ttx | ack | 15:21 |
ttx | david-lyle: ready when you are | 15:21 |
david-lyle | ttx: here | 15:29 |
ttx | david-lyle: hi! | 15:30 |
david-lyle | ttx: hello | 15:30 |
ttx | david-lyle: https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 15:30 |
ttx | like I said to others, the idea would be to refine the list to show what's actually approved and stuck in gate | 15:31 |
ttx | rather than stuff actually still under review rounds, which ca nbe deffered to i3 | 15:31 |
david-lyle | ok, I can do that, I think 2-3 are stuck, the rest didn't make it | 15:31 |
david-lyle | I will move the non-stuck ones to i3 | 15:31 |
ttx | david-lyle: great, move the others to i3. If by miracle they make it we can put them back in | 15:31 |
david-lyle | sure | 15:32 |
ttx | david-lyle: same for bugs. Would be great to defer to i3 anything that's not currently in-gate | 15:32 |
david-lyle | will do | 15:32 |
ttx | (or a critical regression) | 15:32 |
ttx | david-lyle: please do before meeting today so that we get a global and accurate picture | 15:33 |
david-lyle | I'll move them right after we're done | 15:33 |
ttx | as we are considering pushing back the milestone cut by one week | 15:33 |
ttx | (to be discussed today) | 15:33 |
david-lyle | due to the gate, I assume? | 15:33 |
ttx | yes | 15:33 |
ttx | anything else you'd like to discuss today ? | 15:33 |
david-lyle | not really, would like a clear status on the stable/havana gate too | 15:34 |
ttx | right | 15:34 |
david-lyle | I thought that was fixed, but we're still seeing grenade job failures | 15:34 |
ttx | will add to agenda | 15:35 |
david-lyle | thanks | 15:35 |
ttx | david-lyle: you might want to keep 1270764 in icehouse-2 | 15:35 |
ttx | so that it stays on radar | 15:35 |
ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1270764 | 15:36 |
david-lyle | yeah, that's a problem | 15:36 |
david-lyle | we need to address quickly | 15:36 |
ttx | agree, I'll remilestone it, don't defer it | 15:37 |
david-lyle | ok | 15:37 |
ttx | david-lyle: ok, thx! | 15:37 |
david-lyle | thank you | 15:37 |
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flaper87 | ttx: yo | 15:59 |
ttx | flaper87: o/ | 16:10 |
flaper87 | ttx: hey | 16:10 |
ttx | flaper87: so, the idea is to reduce https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/icehouse-2 and https://launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+milestone/icehouse-2 to what's currently stuck in gate | 16:10 |
ttx | and defer to iechouse-3 anything that are farther away | 16:11 |
flaper87 | ttx: kk, I already have an idea about what should be deferred | 16:11 |
flaper87 | ttx: from oslo-inc, this one should be moved to i-3: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+spec/notification-subscriber-server | 16:11 |
flaper87 | it requires some patches to be approved before it's complete | 16:12 |
ttx | flaper87: on it | 16:12 |
ttx | anything else ? | 16:12 |
ttx | the two open bugs in oslo.messaging, maybe ? | 16:12 |
flaper87 | the 2 bugs that don't have "Fix Commited" were merged in oslo-inc but not in oslo.messaging. So I'll move the oslo.messaging ones to i-3 | 16:13 |
flaper87 | ttx: yeah, what you sai | 16:13 |
flaper87 | ttx: yeah, what you said | 16:13 |
flaper87 | :D | 16:13 |
flaper87 | that's it | 16:14 |
ttx | ok done | 16:14 |
flaper87 | cool | 16:14 |
ttx | the patch for bug 1266690 is in the queue already, right ? | 16:14 |
flaper87 | ttx: correct | 16:15 |
ttx | same for the 3 blueprints left in https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 16:15 |
ttx | ok | 16:15 |
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ttx | anything you'd like to see discussed at meeting today, except frozen gate conditions ? | 16:15 |
flaper87 | ttx: the release of oslo.messaging but that's already moving forward so no, nothing for now | 16:16 |
ttx | ok, maybe see you at meeting later | 16:17 |
flaper87 | ttx: will be there! cheers | 16:17 |
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markwash | ttx: hello | 16:47 |
ttx | markwash: hola! | 16:48 |
ttx | https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 16:48 |
ttx | so, the idea for today would be to restrict that list to the currently-approved-but-stuck-in-gate stuff | 16:49 |
ttx | and defer to i3 anything else | 16:49 |
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ttx | markwash: does that work for you ? | 16:49 |
markwash | that's pretty close to where we're at, except there are a few things that just need that last approval | 16:49 |
markwash | it works for me | 16:49 |
ttx | if you can get them approved before meeting, you can keep them in (in Needs code review state) | 16:49 |
markwash | okay | 16:50 |
ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/glance-cmd+unittests is marked "started" so mihgt be a safe defer | 16:50 |
ttx | same for bugs, just keep the in-gate stuff, + any critical regressoin you might want to consider for backporting | 16:50 |
ttx | markwash: at meeting today we'll discuss if it makes sense to defer milestone by one week, due to current gate backlog | 16:51 |
markwash | okay cool | 16:51 |
markwash | in that case, would we be able to pull some stuff back in? or is that just making the problem worse? | 16:51 |
ttx | I think that makes the problem worse | 16:51 |
ttx | but if something makes it we'll retroactively add it | 16:52 |
ttx | I'd like to keep i-2 focused on "stuff that should have made it if the gate wasn't so slow" | 16:52 |
markwash | understood | 16:52 |
ttx | rather than just add a week to the backlog | 16:52 |
ttx | markwash: so, by meetig time, please only keep stuff that is already gating | 16:52 |
ttx | that way we'll have an accurate picture of in-flight stuff | 16:53 |
markwash | nod | 16:53 |
ttx | which will help us make a decision | 16:53 |
markwash | any chance we can talk about the common openstack client stuff in the meeting today? (or did we cover that last week and I just didn't notice?) | 16:53 |
ttx | we didn't last week, we can try today, time permitting | 16:54 |
ttx | please add it to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ProjectMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:54 |
ttx | markwash: anything else ? | 16:54 |
markwash | nope that's it | 16:55 |
ttx | cool, thx, see you there | 16:55 |
ttx | hub_cap: around already ? | 16:56 |
hub_cap | aye | 16:56 |
hub_cap | lets do this | 16:56 |
ttx | ok, so same drill for you | 16:56 |
hub_cap | so the lows, i think will slip | 16:56 |
hub_cap | ok hit me | 16:56 |
ttx | reduce https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/icehouse-2 to the currently approved but stuck in gate stuff | 16:56 |
* hub_cap wasnt paying attn to the last meeting ;) | 16:56 | |
hub_cap | :o | 16:56 |
ttx | remove anything that's not already gating | 16:56 |
ttx | (defer to i3) | 16:57 |
hub_cap | k | 16:57 |
ttx | same thing for bugs -- except you may keep a critical regression inthe list | 16:57 |
ttx | otherwise defer to i3 stuff htat's not gating already | 16:57 |
hub_cap | is this to help alleviate the gate a bit? :) | 16:57 |
ttx | No, it is to help making a decision about deferring i2 by one week | 16:58 |
hub_cap | oh heh, its in 2 days | 16:58 |
ttx | the branch cut is today | 16:58 |
hub_cap | oh ic | 16:58 |
ttx | so that way we can see how much is stuck due to gate | 16:58 |
ttx | and if deferring the milestone cut by one week might not make sense | 16:58 |
ttx | (if we have reasons to hope things will be getting better) | 16:58 |
hub_cap | k | 16:59 |
hub_cap | ill clean it up | 16:59 |
ttx | My guess is that incremental-backups is not there yet | 16:59 |
ttx | and I'll let you sort out which ones are approved and which ones are still under review | 16:59 |
hub_cap | yup | 16:59 |
hub_cap | ill have it sorted in the next few | 16:59 |
ttx | please do so before meeting time | 16:59 |
hub_cap | yessir | 16:59 |
hub_cap | and no qs for me wrt the meeting this aftn | 17:00 |
ttx | ok, meeting is overloaded anyway :) | 17:00 |
hub_cap | haha | 17:00 |
ttx | stevebaker: might be having lunch during our regular 1:1 time, so feel free to ping me whenever you're around | 17:01 |
hub_cap | oh yes it will be interesting, i just looked at the situation | 17:01 |
ttx | hub_cap: see you there | 17:01 |
hub_cap | err the wiki | 17:01 |
hub_cap | yessir ttx, cu | 17:01 |
ttx | markwash: added openstack common client topic to meeting agenda | 17:03 |
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hub_cap | ttx: quick q | 17:14 |
ttx | hub_cap: sure | 17:15 |
hub_cap | if i have a implemented stuck-in-gate review, do i mark that as implemented? | 17:15 |
hub_cap | for a bp, sry | 17:15 |
ttx | no, keep it needs code review | 17:16 |
ttx | it's inaccurate but better than thinking it's all merged | 17:16 |
ttx | in a sense, it needs the code review fro mthe gate system to pass | 17:16 |
hub_cap | sure, thx | 17:17 |
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hub_cap | ttx all clean, only 2 in flight (1 bp, 1 bug) | 17:28 |
ttx | hub_cap: lucky you | 17:32 |
hub_cap | heh yea | 17:32 |
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stevebaker | ttx: I'm about | 19:20 |
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ttx | stevebaker: o/ | 19:36 |
stevebaker | \o | 19:37 |
ttx | stevebaker: so.. given the gate situation the trick today is to defer stuff hat's not stuck in gate yet | 19:37 |
ttx | so defer to i-3 things tha tare not already approved | 19:37 |
stevebaker | If there is a change that needs one more +2, can I give it? | 19:38 |
ttx | you may keep some one-off critical regression bug in | 19:38 |
ttx | stevebaker: if you can get that second +2 in by meeting time, sure :) | 19:38 |
stevebaker | ok | 19:38 |
ttx | I'd like an accurate representation of in-flight stuff | 19:38 |
ttx | so that we make a final call on deferring the milestone or not | 19:38 |
stevebaker | I'll go through them all and defer | 19:39 |
ttx | stevebaker: is stack-check done, or is there more to it ? | 19:39 |
ttx | also https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/allowed-address-pairs was marked implemented. if that was doe recently you might consider adding it to icehouse-2 | 19:40 |
ttx | done* | 19:40 |
stevebaker | it looks like no for stack-check | 19:40 |
ttx | ack | 19:40 |
ttx | anything you'd like to discuss at meeting today ? We alrady have a few things (incl. gate situation) on hte agenda | 19:41 |
stevebaker | I don't think so, just the gate ;) | 19:42 |
stevebaker | that critical bug looks ready to approve | 19:42 |
ttx | ok, then see you there! | 19:43 |
stevebaker | oki later | 19:43 |
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ttx | markmcclain: back now | 23:28 |
ttx | let me know when done with your meeting | 23:28 |
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