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| ttx | dhellmann: ok, let's do this | 13:14 |
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| dhellmann | here | 13:14 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/icehouse-2 first | 13:14 |
| dhellmann | we're looking good on most of those blueprints | 13:14 |
| dhellmann | need a few reviews | 13:14 |
| ttx | yeah, looks good | 13:15 |
| ttx | sync-models-with-migration should move forward fast enough to get all code proposed in the next days ? | 13:15 |
| dhellmann | the i18n item might be done, there's something up for review I think we should not do (add a new config option) so I'm working on convincing the author of that | 13:15 |
| dhellmann | ah, no, that one is not going to land | 13:15 |
| dhellmann | I'm going to go ahead and move it to i43 | 13:15 |
| dhellmann | er, 3 | 13:15 |
| ttx | ok | 13:16 |
| dhellmann | I do expect the others to land | 13:16 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 13:16 |
| dhellmann | so, I'm going to start by saying this split view thing is not working out as well as I'd hoped | 13:17 |
| ttx | heh, yes | 13:17 |
| dhellmann | for the other libraries, I've decided to just leave them in the main oslo view until we move to storyboard | 13:17 |
| ttx | it will work once we get proper project groups, yes | 13:17 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 13:17 |
| ttx | otherwise it's just plain painful | 13:18 |
| dhellmann | I'm going to look at the code reviews for the 2 in "needs code review" today, and I'm going to move the others to i3 | 13:18 |
| ttx | are all those still likely to land ? Not so many days | 13:18 |
| dhellmann | and contact the authors | 13:18 |
| ttx | ok | 13:18 |
| dhellmann | if the surprise me, we can move them back, but I don't expect that | 13:18 |
| dhellmann | the config generator bug item is blocked on me doing some other work, which I'm going to start today | 13:19 |
| ttx | your i-3 is not completely over-committed yet | 13:19 |
| dhellmann | mark has a WIP patch, I just need to verify that it has the needed data | 13:19 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I think everyone targeted i2 and we've been using i3 for overflow :-) | 13:19 |
| ttx | I'm fine with "less features landing". I just want us to accurately convey what is likely to land | 13:20 |
| dhellmann | right | 13:20 |
| ttx | so the idea is to be a bit more pessimistic | 13:20 |
| dhellmann | I sort of view this as working on the release notes early | 13:20 |
| ttx | your targeted bugs sound in order too | 13:21 |
| ttx | anything else about icehouse-2 ? | 13:21 |
| dhellmann | no, I just need to ask the team to do some more reviews | 13:22 |
| ttx | guess it's better than have the reviews and be blocked by gate :) | 13:22 |
| dhellmann | well, we have that to look forward to, right? :-) | 13:23 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: anything you want to see discussed at the release meeting today ? | 13:23 |
| dhellmann | I would be interested to hear the other PTL's opinions on the log config option question I sent to the list, let me find that link | 13:23 |
| dhellmann | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-January/024205.html | 13:24 |
| ttx | ok, adding to agenda | 13:24 |
| dhellmann | thanks | 13:24 |
| dhellmann | and that's it for me | 13:25 |
| ttx | ok, thx! | 13:25 |
| jd__ | o/ | 13:25 |
| ttx | jd__: wanna go now ? | 13:26 |
| * jd__ knocks | 13:26 | |
| jd__ | yup | 13:26 |
| ttx | ok | 13:26 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 13:26 |
| ttx | defer time! | 13:26 |
| ttx | Most of those look like they are not going to make it | 13:26 |
| jd__ | i'm afraid so | 13:26 |
| ttx | are all the statuses there accurate ? | 13:27 |
| jd__ | yeah they started too late or are blocked | 13:27 |
| jd__ | yes | 13:27 |
| ttx | So what's still likely to make it ? The good progress + needs code review ones ? | 13:28 |
| jd__ | I would hope | 13:28 |
| ttx | jd__: the problem is, your i-3 is pretty crowded already -- with the same people assigned to stuff | 13:28 |
| jd__ | that's not a lot | 13:28 |
| jd__ | I know, I blame people | 13:29 |
| jd__ | we are also block by oslo.messaging for a couple of high bp | 13:29 |
| jd__ | *blocked | 13:29 |
| ttx | so, as a first step I'd defer to i-3 all the not started / started / slow progress | 13:30 |
| ttx | then as a second step I'd review i-3 and start cutting it into a more likely set | 13:30 |
| jd__ | sounds like a plan | 13:30 |
| ttx | then focus on getting whatever is left in i-2 in before next week :) | 13:31 |
| ttx | if something targeted to i-3 accidentally makes it we can put it back | 13:31 |
| jd__ | sure; i'm changing targets | 13:31 |
| ttx | but I'd rather chase down a narrower set | 13:31 |
| ttx | as it increases the chances of actually shipping features | 13:31 |
| jd__ | agreed | 13:32 |
| jd__ | though so far our main problem is not review, but code | 13:32 |
| ttx | let me know when you're done | 13:32 |
| jd__ | should be done now, you can refresh | 13:32 |
| ttx | jd__: you kept the "started" in ? Are they lokely to make it ? | 13:33 |
| ttx | likely* | 13:33 |
| jd__ | maybe the complex query as they're already patches, I'll set it to good progress | 13:34 |
| jd__ | I'll change the rest | 13:34 |
| ttx | ok | 13:34 |
| ttx | Bug list looks sane, we can cut it down next week based on progress | 13:34 |
| jd__ | updated | 13:35 |
| ttx | so for your next ceilo meeting it would be great to look at the i-3 objectives and start cutting down | 13:35 |
| ttx | especially where specific devs are overcommitted | 13:36 |
| jd__ | agreed | 13:36 |
| ttx | (Eoghan and you) | 13:36 |
| ttx | Look at past velocity rather than what you think you can code in a week :) | 13:36 |
| jd__ | hehe | 13:36 |
| ttx | that's all I had | 13:37 |
| jd__ | same for me | 13:37 |
| jd__ | nothing to add for tonight | 13:37 |
| ttx | jd__: ok, thx! | 13:37 |
| ttx | jgriffith: want to go now ? | 13:37 |
| jgriffith | ttx: sure | 13:39 |
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| ttx | https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 13:40 |
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| ttx | jgriffith: is deprecate-chance-and-simple-schedulers completed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64645/ ? | 13:40 |
| jgriffith | IIRC there's one more step left | 13:41 |
| jgriffith | ttx: Oh... no, that's it I think | 13:41 |
| ttx | ok, marking implemented then | 13:41 |
| ttx | still a lot to defer though :) | 13:41 |
| jgriffith | I really was hoping/trusting folks from their updates last week :( | 13:42 |
| ttx | do you know which (of the Started/Good progress) still stand a chance ? | 13:42 |
| jgriffith | Ed, Duncan and Ronen | 13:42 |
| jgriffith | What's up with that one for Thierry? | 13:42 |
| ttx | I just marked the cinder-rootwrap one good progress. Blocked on a grenade review but otherwise should be good | 13:43 |
| jgriffith | The three I just called out, the rest I'l push out | 13:43 |
| jgriffith | KK | 13:43 |
| jgriffith | The Lows I'll pun on as well | 13:43 |
| jgriffith | and prophet store, if they submit early fine | 13:43 |
| jgriffith | but I don't see it happening | 13:43 |
| ttx | you can keep the Low/Needs code review in | 13:43 |
| jgriffith | for sure | 13:43 |
| jgriffith | I don't want to push out anything that's in review | 13:44 |
| ttx | Proiphetstore: should that be "low ? | 13:44 |
| jgriffith | Yes | 13:44 |
| ttx | ok fixing | 13:44 |
| ttx | jgriffith: could you defer now so that I see how the result looks ? | 13:44 |
| jgriffith | Sure.. just a moment | 13:45 |
| jgriffith | there's the easy ones... | 13:46 |
| jgriffith | doh | 13:46 |
| jgriffith | ttx: ok, try that | 13:48 |
| ttx | so... you puhsed back the Prophetstore one ? | 13:49 |
| jgriffith | I did, with a note that they can certainly submit if they get it done | 13:49 |
| ttx | ok | 13:49 |
| jgriffith | It seems you're the only person they're communicating with | 13:49 |
| ttx | Those 5 "started" at tht top... do they still stand a chance to get merged ? | 13:50 |
| jgriffith | Yes | 13:50 |
| jgriffith | Duncans is the only questionable one | 13:50 |
| jgriffith | I'll retarget | 13:50 |
| jgriffith | and I think just reassign it | 13:50 |
| jgriffith | to somebody else | 13:50 |
| ttx | ok, sounds like you have a busy week ahead | 13:50 |
| jgriffith | Sergey's is actually in review | 13:50 |
| jgriffith | always | 13:50 |
| ttx | I'll set sergey's needs codereview | 13:51 |
| jgriffith | our other item is in progress but turning in to quite a pain | 13:51 |
| jgriffith | thanks (for setting that one) | 13:51 |
| jgriffith | I may punt his, haven't decided | 13:51 |
| jgriffith | but it'll happen today if I do | 13:51 |
| ttx | OK, that looks better. Late, but not compltely impossible | 13:51 |
| jgriffith | and it looks like there's no reason to keep Duncan's in place, it's not happening so I'm chaning that | 13:51 |
| ttx | ok | 13:52 |
| ttx | On the bugs side | 13:52 |
| ttx | Lots of targeted bugs, we'll refine next week | 13:53 |
| ttx | feel free to early defer to i-3 (or remove target) the ones that are not that urgent | 13:53 |
| jgriffith | will do | 13:53 |
| ttx | anythign else affecting i-2 ? | 13:53 |
| jgriffith | Nope, just sec issues which you're aware of and are another conversation | 13:54 |
| ttx | right | 13:54 |
| ttx | Have a topic you want to discuss at the cross-project meeting today ? | 13:54 |
| jgriffith | Nope, not this week :) I used up my topics last week | 13:55 |
| ttx | heh | 13:55 |
| ttx | ok then, see you there | 13:55 |
| jgriffith | but interestingly enough folks seemed to say the same thing in the ML Monday | 13:55 |
| jgriffith | so maybe I wasn't full of it | 13:55 |
| jgriffith | yep.. see ya then, and thanks! | 13:55 |
| ttx | you defeinitely weren't | 13:55 |
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| ttx | dolphm: if you're ready, we can start now - looks like markmcclain's plane has no wifi after all | 14:51 |
| dolphm | ttx: ha. i'm free | 14:52 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 14:52 |
| ttx | so... are those all still likely to make it in the week ? Or should we already punt the not started / started ? | 14:53 |
| ttx | dolphm: ^ | 14:54 |
| dolphm | i'm worried about saml and mapping at this point, but the majority of keystone-core is also getting together this week to knock all this out :) | 14:54 |
| ttx | when is that ? | 14:55 |
| dolphm | i also just revised mapping from 'beta available' to 'needs code review' ... the bp simply wasn't mentioned in the commit message properly, so it wasn't getting tracked | 14:55 |
| dolphm | wednesday-friday in san antonio | 14:55 |
| ttx | ok | 14:55 |
| ttx | no-check-id is "not started", still short enough to potentially make it ? | 14:55 |
| ttx | also is revocation-events advanced enough to be considered Good progress, or is most of the work still wip ? | 14:56 |
| dolphm | i need to follow up on that one.. i believe it was a intended to start tracking an effort that was already in review... so there should be a patch out there somewhere | 14:57 |
| * ttx looks | 14:57 | |
| dolphm | the API for revocation events is fairly settled, and there's a fairly complete-looking patch that's failing jenkins quite miserably | 14:57 |
| dolphm | definitely a lot of energy going into that one | 14:57 |
| ttx | ok, moving to good progress | 14:58 |
| dolphm | for which one? | 14:58 |
| dolphm | ah revocation events | 14:59 |
| ttx | revocation events | 14:59 |
| ttx | for the no-check-id, would that be https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54647/ | 15:00 |
| dolphm | yep! | 15:00 |
| ttx | ok, is that all there is to it (needs code reveiw) or part of a larger change set (good progress) ? | 15:00 |
| dolphm | that looks like it'll be it | 15:00 |
| ttx | ok, i2 looks good to me now | 15:01 |
| ttx | a bit ambitious, but then if you sprint this week | 15:01 |
| ttx | and the gods of the gate are in your favor | 15:01 |
| dolphm | wooo | 15:01 |
| ttx | might work out | 15:01 |
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| ttx | trick being, not that much free space in your i-3 to defer | 15:02 |
| ttx | targeted bug list is small enough | 15:02 |
| ttx | I think we are good | 15:02 |
| dolphm | eek, i haven't looked at i3 in a while | 15:02 |
| ttx | dolphm: anything icehouse-2 blocking on your side ? | 15:02 |
| dolphm | yes... it's been discussed, but appears to have a new development... one sec | 15:03 |
| dolphm | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/user-locale-api is blocked by oslo | 15:04 |
| dolphm | all the patches in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/i18n-messages have merged but one, which is -2'd pending further discussion | 15:04 |
| ttx | ok we'll discuss it today | 15:04 |
| ttx | anything else you'd like to see discussed at the cross-project meeting later today ? | 15:05 |
| dolphm | i just asked brant to follow up and see if enough has merged for keystone to land our bp in i2 | 15:05 |
| dolphm | that's all from me | 15:05 |
| ttx | ok thx | 15:05 |
| ttx | talk to you later | 15:06 |
| dolphm | /salute | 15:06 |
| ttx | russellb: ready to jump ? | 15:07 |
| russellb | in a sec | 15:08 |
| ttx | since markmcclain still hasn't got wifi on his plane | 15:08 |
| russellb | wat, 6 more blueprints since yesterday targeted at icehouse | 15:08 |
| * ttx waits | 15:08 | |
| russellb | we can start now | 15:08 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 15:09 |
| russellb | so ... our velocity seems way down this cycle | 15:09 |
| russellb | i think a lot of nova folks are less active than usual | 15:09 |
| russellb | either that or the holidays hurt a lot ... | 15:10 |
| russellb | are you seeing that with any other projects? or is it just us | 15:10 |
| ttx | I'd have to analyze that | 15:10 |
| ttx | but yes, that rings a bell | 15:11 |
| russellb | no worries if you're not sure off hand | 15:11 |
| ttx | more projects too | 15:11 |
| russellb | just something i was thinking about a lot yesterday | 15:11 |
| russellb | yeah, some people are busy with other projects | 15:11 |
| russellb | and others are just ... i don't know, not around as much | 15:11 |
| russellb | and holidays | 15:11 |
| russellb | but, it is what it is. | 15:11 |
| ttx | russellb: the trick is, you still have heaps of blueprints targeted | 15:11 |
| russellb | yeah, all things someone claimed they would do | 15:12 |
| russellb | review bandwidth is going to hurt it though | 15:12 |
| russellb | all things someone wanted to do and we thought was sane | 15:12 |
| russellb | not sure what else to do except leave it all there and just see what gets finished | 15:12 |
| russellb | and pick the select few that we *must* finish | 15:13 |
| russellb | btw, i posted to openstack-dev yesterday doing a last call for people to please sponsor blueprints | 15:13 |
| russellb | before we give up on this prioritization experiment | 15:13 |
| ttx | russellb: there is value in deferring stuff that doesn't have all the necessary code posted... and that is focusing review effort on what may just get completed in te milestone | 15:13 |
| russellb | that's true | 15:13 |
| russellb | i deferred some yesterday | 15:14 |
| russellb | started with everything still "not started" | 15:14 |
| ttx | so something like deferring all the Lows that are not "needs code review" | 15:14 |
| ttx | + the mediums that don't stand a chance | 15:14 |
| russellb | yeah | 15:14 |
| ttx | then use that to prioritize reviews for this week | 15:14 |
| russellb | i'll go back through and start deferring more that aren't close | 15:14 |
| russellb | takes freaking forever to get through all these though :( | 15:14 |
| ttx | if by some miracle/accident an i-3 gets in, we can still put it back in i-2 | 15:14 |
| ttx | I can help for that | 15:15 |
| russellb | sure, if you've got some time | 15:15 |
| ttx | just tell me the rule and I'll apply it | 15:15 |
| russellb | maybe I should post something today to the ML saying anything not ready for review by the EOD today is getting deferred | 15:16 |
| russellb | give one last day for people to get stuff posted | 15:16 |
| ttx | sounds good | 15:16 |
| russellb | and then tomorrow we just defer everything not "needs code review" | 15:16 |
| russellb | ok it's a plan then | 15:16 |
| ttx | then early in i-3 we'll do the reality check | 15:16 |
| russellb | cool | 15:17 |
| ttx | because those 85 BPs you have targeted to i-3 already are not really getting anywhere imho | 15:17 |
| russellb | yeah, it's madness | 15:17 |
| ttx | will analyze velocity once we are past i-2 | 15:17 |
| ttx | based on i-1 + i-2 | 15:17 |
| russellb | good idea | 15:17 |
| russellb | i-2 bugs ... i just left everything marked "in progress" | 15:17 |
| ttx | and get some # of changes merged stats | 15:17 |
| ttx | ok, anything particular you'd like to discuss at meeting today ? | 15:18 |
| russellb | gate stability again i suppose | 15:18 |
| russellb | made some good progress in the last week, and i want to push the issue on getting some things merged | 15:19 |
| russellb | in particular the patch to reduce tempest concurrency | 15:19 |
| ttx | it's your turn ? | 15:19 |
| russellb | not sure if you read my status email on it ... | 15:19 |
| ttx | I read it | 15:19 |
| russellb | OK | 15:19 |
| russellb | so yeah, majority of failures are just test load too high ... | 15:19 |
| ttx | ok will add it | 15:19 |
| russellb | which is a pretty easy thing to fix | 15:19 |
| russellb | k | 15:19 |
| russellb | other than that ... the other hot nova / cross-project topic is nova-net vs neutron | 15:20 |
| russellb | though the neutron folks may be all busy this week | 15:20 |
| russellb | i could give a quick update on things i'd like to do with nova-network though | 15:20 |
| ttx | yeah, we can defer this one to next week | 15:20 |
| russellb | OK that's fine | 15:20 |
| ttx | ok then. Post that review deadline to -dev. And once you decide on a defer rule I can help applying it | 15:21 |
| ttx | (tomorrow) | 15:21 |
| russellb | sounds good | 15:21 |
| ttx | thx! | 15:21 |
| russellb | defer rule will just be ... defer if not in "needs code review" | 15:21 |
| ttx | ack | 15:27 |
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| ttx | david-lyle: ping me when around | 15:30 |
| david-lyle | ttx: here | 15:30 |
| ttx | david-lyle: ok, let's do this | 15:31 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 15:31 |
| ttx | david-lyle: "Auto login after password changed" has a "Not" priority. Shoudl it be turned into "Low" or removed from milestone ? | 15:31 |
| david-lyle | I'll drop that one, I'm don't think there is agreement on the approach or need | 15:32 |
| ttx | ok, please do | 15:32 |
| ttx | wizard-ui-for-workflow is marked implemented but has https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64839/ opened | 15:32 |
| ttx | so what's the real status ? | 15:33 |
| david-lyle | ttx: that was tacked on by a developer. It's not necessary for the bp | 15:33 |
| ttx | ok | 15:33 |
| david-lyle | I'll separate that as well | 15:33 |
| david-lyle | first one is removed | 15:33 |
| ttx | no, I can fix the latter | 15:33 |
| ttx | done | 15:34 |
| ttx | so.. how likely are those the ones that are not yet "needs code review" to make it ? | 15:35 |
| ttx | s/those// | 15:35 |
| ttx | In particular the two that are just marked "started" | 15:35 |
| david-lyle | most not likely, I will begin bumping them today. I think one still has a chance. | 15:35 |
| ttx | david-lyle: at this point you have so much under review it might make sense to focus review efforts on those likely to be implemented by next week | 15:35 |
| david-lyle | ack | 15:36 |
| david-lyle | I had drawn a line as of today to put under review | 15:36 |
| ttx | sounds good | 15:36 |
| david-lyle | so this afternoon I will move them | 15:36 |
| ttx | russellb is doing the same for nova | 15:36 |
| ttx | that's useful when you already have so much under review | 15:36 |
| david-lyle | yes, it's nice to be able to focus | 15:37 |
| ttx | bug list is pretty large too, but we can start culling it next week once we see what merges and what not | 15:37 |
| ttx | david-lyle: note that your i-" is already a bit overcrowded so not much room for deferral | 15:38 |
| ttx | i-3 | 15:38 |
| ttx | OK...anything blocking your i-2 efforts ? | 15:38 |
| david-lyle | I think several i-3 may slip. Changing focus and people coming and going | 15:38 |
| david-lyle | no blockers, just need a new meeting venue =) | 15:39 |
| ttx | we'll have to revisit i-3 after next week and set reasonable objectives | 15:39 |
| ttx | anything you'd like to see discussed at meeting later ? | 15:39 |
| david-lyle | agree, it started very light, and things have been added. I'll do some cleanup | 15:40 |
| david-lyle | no, I don't think so | 15:40 |
| david-lyle | for this afternoon | 15:40 |
| ttx | ok, talk to you later then | 15:40 |
| david-lyle | sounds good | 15:40 |
| ttx | notmyname: if you're still suffering from jetlag, we can run now | 15:40 |
| notmyname | ttx: good morning | 15:41 |
| ttx | notmyname: hi! | 15:41 |
| notmyname | ttx: swift mini hackathon today and tomorrow | 15:41 |
| notmyname | ttx: plans still the same as last week: RC late this week and 1.12 next week | 15:41 |
| ttx | OK, I think all stars are aligned so far | 15:42 |
| ttx | "feature-wise" is https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.12.0 mostly covering what will end up in 1.12.0 at this point ? | 15:42 |
| ttx | or you need to add a few more ? | 15:43 |
| notmyname | ttx: no, I'll need to add the sysmeta and check the other things that have added | 15:43 |
| ttx | ok, would be good to cover that before the end of the week | 15:43 |
| ttx | (can do when you push release notes in swift repo | 15:44 |
| ttx | ) | 15:44 |
| notmyname | ya | 15:44 |
| ttx | anything you'd like us to discuss at meeting today ? FWIW russellb already added discussion of gate stability so we'll review progress there | 15:45 |
| notmyname | ttx: no I don't have anything | 15:45 |
| ttx | we were in good shape yesterday but the nodepool fell down and buidt a new backlog | 15:45 |
| ttx | notmyname: ok then, talk to you later | 15:46 |
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| markmcclain | ttx: ping | 15:48 |
| ttx | markmcclain: oh hai | 15:48 |
| ttx | markmcclain: we can try quickly now | 15:49 |
| markmcclain | sorry had trouble connecting remotely | 15:49 |
| ttx | or in 40 minutes if you prefer. notmyname just took an early slot | 15:49 |
| ttx | have a call in 10 | 15:49 |
| markmcclain | ok.. let's go in 40 then | 15:49 |
| ttx | awesome | 15:49 |
| markmcclain | talk to you later | 15:49 |
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| ttx | markmcclain: still on my call, but I can multiplex | 16:30 |
| markmcclain | ttx: ok | 16:31 |
| ttx | markmcclain: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 16:31 |
| ttx | config-plugin-by-name needs triage | 16:31 |
| ttx | if code prposed, maybe low ? | 16:31 |
| markmcclain | code is proposed | 16:32 |
| ttx | did you just defer the not started ? | 16:32 |
| markmcclain | yes | 16:32 |
| ttx | ok | 16:32 |
| ttx | how likely are the "started" and "slow progress" to make it ? | 16:33 |
| markmcclain | I'm going to defer the one convergence ctlr | 16:33 |
| markmcclain | they have not activated 3rd party testing and are new | 16:33 |
| ttx | ack | 16:33 |
| markmcclain | for the ML2 drivers I expect them to straight forward | 16:34 |
| markmcclain | so I'm ok holding onto them for until Thurs/Fri | 16:34 |
| ttx | ok, just keep on refining | 16:34 |
| ttx | will help in narrowing review focus | 16:34 |
| markmcclain | agreed… most of our focus the next 4 days will be on tempest/neutron/parity changes | 16:35 |
| markmcclain | so there are even items in review that might get bumped | 16:35 |
| ttx | ok | 16:35 |
| ttx | so neutron-tempest-parallel will be worked on during sprint ? | 16:35 |
| markmcclain | yes… salvatore has several patches in flight | 16:35 |
| markmcclain | that should land | 16:36 |
| ttx | the challenge will be to get some reviews done :) | 16:36 |
| markmcclain | there will be many of us in Montreal this week | 16:36 |
| ttx | should I set config-plugin-by-name to low ? or drop it from i-2 ? | 16:36 |
| markmcclain | low is ok | 16:37 |
| ttx | ok | 16:37 |
| ttx | your buglist is pretty deep, you might want to refine it over week too | 16:37 |
| markmcclain | will do | 16:37 |
| ttx | otherwise it will be useless as a prioritization tool | 16:37 |
| markmcclain | good point | 16:38 |
| ttx | your i-3 is pretty congested too, so deferring won't be that easy without removing other stuff | 16:38 |
| ttx | we'll review that in following weeks | 16:38 |
| markmcclain | I plan on removing some stuff from Icehouse and deferring until Juno | 16:39 |
| ttx | anything blocking your i-2 efforts ? | 16:39 |
| markmcclain | right now no | 16:39 |
| ttx | anything you'd like to see discussed at meeting today ? | 16:39 |
| markmcclain | no | 16:39 |
| markmcclain | I'll be joining as soon as I clear customs | 16:39 |
| ttx | ok then, I think we are done | 16:39 |
| ttx | talk to you later | 16:39 |
| markmcclain | later | 16:40 |
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| ttx | markwash: hi! | 16:45 |
| markwash | ttx greetings | 16:46 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 16:46 |
| ttx | markwash: are those all still likely to make it this week ? | 16:46 |
| ttx | or can we already defer the not started / slow progress ones | 16:46 |
| markwash | I just deferred one "not started" and updated one that was actually started | 16:47 |
| markwash | I think the "slow progress" one will be deferred but it usually ends up being demotivating for folks when I push it back rather than just letting it slide | 16:47 |
| markwash | I don't understand why, but it happens | 16:47 |
| ttx | well, if they still think it can make it, sure | 16:48 |
| markwash | :-) | 16:48 |
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| ttx | you have room in your i-3 for deferrals, so not too bad | 16:48 |
| ttx | just focus review efforts on those that are almost there | 16:49 |
| markwash | yes indeed | 16:49 |
| ttx | rather than on those which will need two more weeks min | 16:49 |
| markwash | the gate queue got incredibly better over the weekend, which is nice | 16:49 |
| ttx | and defer as soon as the assignee recognizes it won't make it | 16:49 |
| ttx | markwash: we had some issue though during the night | 16:50 |
| ttx | which rebuilt a backlog | 16:50 |
| ttx | at least it's not growing anymore | 16:50 |
| markwash | ah okay | 16:50 |
| markwash | well perhaps my hopes for smooth sailing were a bit premature | 16:50 |
| ttx | hopefully that backlog will be absorbed during the night | 16:51 |
| markwash | ttx: that one bug maked "critical" looks like it might need a bit more of my attention | 16:51 |
| ttx | (no test slave available for something like 12 hours) | 16:51 |
| ttx | (some cloud provider outage) | 16:51 |
| ttx | yes, your bug list sounds sane | 16:52 |
| ttx | we can refine it next week | 16:52 |
| markwash | ttx, just making sure I didn't forget, the target for cutting i2 is january 21? 22? | 16:52 |
| ttx | the idea would be to cut MP branches late on the 21 | 16:53 |
| ttx | I'll be in UT at that point so late might mean late | 16:53 |
| markwash | gotcha | 16:54 |
| ttx | anything blocking your i-2 efforts ? | 16:54 |
| markwash | no, I think we're in okay shape all around | 16:54 |
| ttx | if you get the opportunity to talk to assignees and get them to realize they won't make it, please defer early | 16:55 |
| ttx | that will communicate to the rest of the world more accurately what we plan | 16:55 |
| ttx | rather than use the BP dashboard as a motivation tool :) | 16:55 |
| ttx | markwash: anything you'd like to see discussed at meeting later ? | 16:56 |
| markwash | nothing in particular | 16:56 |
| ttx | ok then. Thanks, and talk to you later! | 16:56 |
| ttx | hub_cap: ready? | 16:57 |
| markwash | see you then! | 16:57 |
| hub_cap | heyo sure ttx | 16:57 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 16:57 |
| ttx | sounds like defer time here as well | 16:58 |
| hub_cap | we have been pretty stagnant this wk | 16:58 |
| hub_cap | yea | 16:58 |
| hub_cap | defintely defer time | 16:58 |
| ttx | Is the status there accurately reflecting your knowledge of those feature implementation progress ? | 16:58 |
| hub_cap | yes in soime sort (wrt the "started" ones) | 16:59 |
| hub_cap | i think the started ones might just defer | 16:59 |
| ttx | If yes, sounds like the not started / slow progress should be deferred | 16:59 |
| hub_cap | i think the code review will all get in | 16:59 |
| ttx | then you should review the started and see if they are still likely to make it | 16:59 |
| hub_cap | oh yes slow prog as well | 16:59 |
| ttx | the more you defer, the easier iut will be to prioritize review effort | 16:59 |
| hub_cap | ok ill ping each person after they get on | 16:59 |
| hub_cap | those west coasters and their love for late mornings | 17:00 |
| hub_cap | makes sense ttx | 17:00 |
| ttx | could you get this mostly fixed by meeting time ? | 17:00 |
| ttx | you have /some/ room in i-3 for deferrals | 17:00 |
| ttx | basically, no point in keeping on that list stuff everyone knows (the assignee and you) won't make it | 17:01 |
| ttx | better focus on those that might actually make it | 17:01 |
| ttx | gate gods willing | 17:01 |
| ttx | otherwise your bug list looks sane | 17:02 |
| ttx | I'll revert those FixReleased to FixCommitted | 17:02 |
| ttx | since they shouldn't be released before milestoen hits | 17:02 |
| ttx | hub_cap: should we already defer the "not started" and "slow progress" or you want to chance to talk to them first ? | 17:03 |
| hub_cap | sorry baby... | 17:04 |
| hub_cap | i can get them all fixed by meeting | 17:04 |
| ttx | Ok then, we'll look at the list again during meeting | 17:04 |
| ttx | anything blocking your i-2 progress ? | 17:04 |
| hub_cap | ok that sounds perfect | 17:04 |
| hub_cap | yea.. i need more core reviews heh | 17:04 |
| hub_cap | reviews or reviewers ;) | 17:04 |
| ttx | Can't help with that :) anything you'd like to see discussed at meeting ? | 17:04 |
| hub_cap | jk no blockers as of now | 17:04 |
| hub_cap | not at present | 17:05 |
| ttx | alrighty | 17:05 |
| hub_cap | ill have a updated i2 by meeting today sir | 17:05 |
| ttx | talk to you later then | 17:05 |
| ttx | thanks! | 17:05 |
| hub_cap | yessir thx ttx <3 | 17:05 |
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| ttx | stevebaker: o/ | 19:31 |
| stevebaker | hai! | 19:31 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 19:32 |
| ttx | yay, defer time here too | 19:32 |
| stevebaker | yep, anything Not Started | 19:32 |
| ttx | sounds like the bare minimum yes | 19:33 |
| ttx | I can help with the deferring | 19:33 |
| ttx | what about hot-software-config-rest ? Still likely to make it ? | 19:33 |
| stevebaker | its possible, patches are ready for review | 19:34 |
| ttx | stevebaker: was marked Slow Progress, hence me asking | 19:34 |
| stevebaker | things changed overnight, it looks like it is Needs Code Review. I've updated it | 19:35 |
| ttx | OK, let's defer all not started, then you can refine over the week (take the "started" out if it looks like they won't make it) | 19:36 |
| stevebaker | but I'll update every software-config bp which depends on that to i-3 | 19:36 |
| ttx | This will help you focus review efforts on what's likely to make it | 19:36 |
| ttx | There seems to be /some/ room in i-3 for these deferrals alright | 19:37 |
| stevebaker | hmm, I think it will be a big i-3 | 19:38 |
| ttx | Your buglist is also a bit too massive to be useful as a prioritization tool | 19:38 |
| ttx | you might want to refine it over the week | 19:38 |
| ttx | we'll cut it down to milestone-critical next week | 19:38 |
| ttx | How about we push to i-3 things that are still unassigned ? | 19:38 |
| stevebaker | ok, I'll start being brutal | 19:39 |
| stevebaker | yep | 19:39 |
| ttx | ok, can help with that too | 19:39 |
| ttx | anything blocking your victorious march to i-2 ? | 19:39 |
| stevebaker | possibly... | 19:40 |
| stevebaker | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/keystone-v3-only is blocked on this keystone review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66447/ | 19:40 |
| ttx | OK, let's raise it during the meeting | 19:41 |
| ttx | anything else ? | 19:41 |
| stevebaker | ok | 19:41 |
| stevebaker | I don't think so | 19:41 |
| ttx | OK, so do you want me to move to i-3 all unassigned bugs and "not started" blueprints ? | 19:42 |
| stevebaker | no, I'll go through it now before the meeting | 19:42 |
| ttx | ok then | 19:42 |
| ttx | thnaks and see you in a 80 min | 19:42 |
| ttx | thanks even | 19:42 |
| stevebaker | ok, later | 19:42 |
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