| elodilles | reminder that we will have the Release Management meeting **TODAY** @ 14:00 UTC, instead of Friday | 09:02 |
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| elodilles | fungi: fyi ^^^ | 09:02 |
| fungi | thanks for the reminder! did that move permanently? i don't recall. if so, it's going to be at the same time as openinfra live episodes, but those aren't all that often (and will no longer overlap after usa dst ends anyway) | 11:43 |
| hberaud | no it's exceptional | 12:10 |
| opendevreview | Vishal Manchanda proposed openstack/releases master: Add xstatic-angular-fileupload first release via the releases repo https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/889385 | 12:10 |
| opendevreview | Vishal Manchanda proposed openstack/releases master: Add xstatic-angular-fileupload first release via the releases repo https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/889385 | 12:11 |
| elodilles | fungi: it's only for this week as I won't be available on this Friday | 12:13 |
| fungi | aha, no worries. i probably meant to add it to my calendar and forgot. but also i do get a highlight in my irc client for the "startmeeting releaseteam" so probably wouldn't have missed it anyway | 12:15 |
| elodilles | nope, you haven't forgot it as it was not announced, we discussed it with hberaud 2 days ago here on IRC only o:) | 12:17 |
| elodilles | reminder: meeting will start in ~22 mins | 13:38 |
| elodilles | #startmeeting releaseteam | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Jul 27 14:00:13 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is elodilles. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 14:00 |
| elodilles | Ping list: elodilles armstrong | 14:00 |
| hberaud | o/ | 14:00 |
| elodilles | note that today we are holding the meeting instead of Friday due to i'll be absent tomorrow | 14:00 |
| elodilles | o/ | 14:00 |
| elodilles | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/bobcat-relmgt-tracking | 14:01 |
| elodilles | we are way down @ L286 | 14:01 |
| elodilles | ttx is OoO all week, so let's not wait for him | 14:02 |
| elodilles | and let's start! | 14:02 |
| elodilles | #topic eview R-12 and R-10 task completion | 14:02 |
| elodilles | #undo | 14:02 |
| opendevmeet | Removing item from minutes: #topic eview R-12 and R-10 task completion | 14:02 |
| elodilles | #topic Review R-12 and R-10 task completion | 14:02 |
| elodilles | 1st task from R-12: 'Review any remaining milestone-2 exceptions (all)' | 14:03 |
| elodilles | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:bobcat-milestone-2+is:open+project:openstack/releases | 14:03 |
| elodilles | list is empty so we've processed all patches! | 14:03 |
| hberaud | no changes | 14:03 |
| hberaud | \o/ | 14:03 |
| elodilles | yepp | 14:03 |
| elodilles | 2nd task from R-12: 'Plan the next release cycle schedule (ttx)' | 14:04 |
| hberaud | are you you are on the right week? | 14:04 |
| elodilles | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/888942 | 14:04 |
| hberaud | sure | 14:04 |
| hberaud | we are at R-10 | 14:05 |
| elodilles | hberaud: R-12 week, did i miss something? | 14:05 |
| hberaud | ah sorry I missed that we skipped this meeting | 14:06 |
| hberaud | my bad | 14:06 |
| elodilles | no problem :) we have to review R-12 AND R-10 as well :) | 14:06 |
| elodilles | so ttx proposed 2024.1 Caracal release schedule (see above) | 14:06 |
| elodilles | btw, we have the name of the new series \o/ | 14:07 |
| elodilles | anyway, back to the topic | 14:07 |
| elodilles | so the planned schedule is there, and i've sent a mail before the meeting to ML as well: | 14:08 |
| elodilles | #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-July/034555.html | 14:08 |
| elodilles | i guess we need to wait for some responses/reviews and if the schedule is OK to everyone then we can merge it | 14:09 |
| elodilles | (we already reviewed it, and for us it looks good) | 14:10 |
| elodilles | that's all about the tasks of week R-12 | 14:10 |
| elodilles | now comes R-10 week's task | 14:10 |
| elodilles | s | 14:10 |
| elodilles | 1st task from R-10: 'Generate a list of intermediary-released service deliverables that have not done a release in this cycle yet and propose release model change for them (hberaud)' | 14:11 |
| hberaud | so | 14:11 |
| hberaud | from the list | 14:11 |
| hberaud | I think only python-openstackclient and swift could be good clients | 14:12 |
| hberaud | thoughts? | 14:12 |
| hberaud | as I said I don't think we want to move ironic deliverables as they follow their own cadence | 14:12 |
| hberaud | and requirements should be ignored | 14:13 |
| elodilles | looking at the list of deliverables they are the usual ones (ironic, swift, even the python-openstackclient was there time to time) | 14:13 |
| hberaud | yeah | 14:13 |
| elodilles | (ironic* deliverables) | 14:13 |
| elodilles | so probably we don't need to change any of these to cycle-with-rc | 14:14 |
| hberaud | +1 | 14:15 |
| elodilles | anyway, the countdown mail's topic is mostly about this, so we can rephrase the mail a bit and list these deliverables | 14:15 |
| elodilles | is that OK? | 14:15 |
| hberaud | LGTM | 14:15 |
| elodilles | OK, then let's handle this at the mail review | 14:16 |
| elodilles | good | 14:16 |
| elodilles | next task then | 14:16 |
| elodilles | 2nd task from R-10: 'Propose convenience releases for Yoga to ease the transition of Yoga to Extended Maintenance and avoid rush and broken releases when the transition deadline is coming (hberaud)' | 14:16 |
| elodilles | patches were proposed: https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:yoga-convenience-before-em | 14:16 |
| elodilles | thanks hberaud o/ | 14:16 |
| hberaud | thanks the abandons | 14:17 |
| elodilles | we got some review from PTLs / release liaisons already \o/ | 14:17 |
| frickler | maybe take these into consideration https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/config-errors?branch=stable%2Fyoga | 14:17 |
| elodilles | yepp, as we discussed, I've abandoned those that had no functional changes, hence no need for a release | 14:17 |
| elodilles | frickler: oh, yes, those might cause some release-job-failure anyway, so good idea to skip them | 14:18 |
| elodilles | if no fixes land for the zuul errors | 14:19 |
| frickler | although those projects cannot have any patches merged anyway | 14:19 |
| elodilles | #info yoga convenience release before EM: consider skipping deliverables with zuul config errors: https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/config-errors?branch=stable%2Fyoga | 14:20 |
| elodilles | frickler: yepp, gates are clearly broken for them | 14:20 |
| elodilles | frickler: i wouldn't be surprised if their master branch was also broken, to be honest... | 14:21 |
| frickler | list of errors for master is a bit shorter | 14:22 |
| elodilles | ++ | 14:23 |
| fungi | cinder eol'ing their em branches is also likely to cause a lot of job config errors other projects are going to need to clean up | 14:23 |
| elodilles | nevertheless, the yoga release patches are there, so they will get reviews / we need to review them as they got reviews | 14:23 |
| elodilles | fungi: good point, the new EM replacement process might have some effect on the yoga transition | 14:24 |
| fungi | sure. on that note, a reminder to keep an eye on (and provide feedback for) the evolving proposal to drop "extended maintenance" if stable branch topics are of interest: #link https://review.opendev.org/888771 | 14:24 |
| elodilles | i mean, cinder + EM reminded me to the EM process change o:) | 14:24 |
| elodilles | fungi: thanks for the link! yes, we need to follow that resolution | 14:25 |
| elodilles | anything else to add regarding this task? | 14:26 |
| hberaud | nope | 14:27 |
| elodilles | ok, next task then: | 14:27 |
| elodilles | 3rd task from R-10: 'add an independent deliverable file for xstatic-angular-fileupload (see week R-13) (elod)' | 14:28 |
| elodilles | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/889385 | 14:28 |
| elodilles | i've created the patch ^^^ | 14:28 |
| hberaud | ack | 14:28 |
| elodilles | and Vishal already updated with a release as well | 14:28 |
| hberaud | nice | 14:29 |
| elodilles | we have to keep an eye on this one as i see some errors in the validator job about missing things | 14:29 |
| elodilles | hopefully with the proper hash and yaml format those will be sorted out | 14:30 |
| elodilles | and that were all the tasks for R-12 and R-10 | 14:31 |
| elodilles | #topic Assign R-8 week tasks | 14:31 |
| elodilles | actually, I've added myself as meeting chair, | 14:32 |
| elodilles | and thus added my name to the tasks as hberaud will be on vacation that week | 14:32 |
| elodilles | so all tasks taken | 14:32 |
| hberaud | thanks | 14:33 |
| elodilles | np | 14:33 |
| elodilles | #topic Review countdown email | 14:33 |
| elodilles | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails | 14:33 |
| elodilles | OK, so we have to edit this on the fly with the list of deliverables | 14:33 |
| hberaud | the link is not necessary | 14:34 |
| hberaud | as no patches have been generated | 14:35 |
| elodilles | yepp, let me delete it | 14:35 |
| hberaud | the next sentence should be updated too | 14:37 |
| opendevreview | Vishal Manchanda proposed openstack/releases master: Add xstatic-angular-fileupload first release via the releases repo https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/889385 | 14:39 |
| elodilles | OK, something like that. | 14:40 |
| elodilles | is the mail content acceptable? | 14:40 |
| hberaud | LGTM | 14:40 |
| elodilles | ACK | 14:41 |
| elodilles | then I'll send it after the meeting | 14:41 |
| hberaud | I think we have to add the teams in the email subject | 14:41 |
| elodilles | i don't want to pollute the countdown mail subject with team names, to be honest | 14:41 |
| hberaud | [ironic][swift][openstackclient] | 14:41 |
| armstrong | Email looks good | 14:41 |
| hberaud | as you want | 14:41 |
| elodilles | yeah, in the past we sent separate mail with the model change | 14:42 |
| hberaud | ok | 14:42 |
| elodilles | considering that ironic, swift, and openstacksdk got the same question time to time and they never wanted a model change, i think we don't need to push them | 14:43 |
| hberaud | ok | 14:43 |
| hberaud | wfm | 14:43 |
| elodilles | thanks | 14:43 |
| elodilles | #topic Open Discussion | 14:44 |
| elodilles | we don't have anything mentioned on the pad | 14:44 |
| hberaud | I've nothing on my end | 14:44 |
| hberaud | I'll be OOO from friday next week for 3 weeks | 14:45 |
| elodilles | fungi's point about the zuul config errors that will come when cinder EOL's all their EM branches (up to xena) is a good warning though | 14:45 |
| hberaud | and I'll be fully afk | 14:45 |
| elodilles | hberaud: that sounds a nice long summer vacation, enjoy your free time! :) | 14:46 |
| hberaud | thanks | 14:46 |
| fungi | mainly just check those early and don't let them take you by surprise later at a less convenient time | 14:46 |
| elodilles | fungi: ++ | 14:46 |
| elodilles | thanks | 14:47 |
| elodilles | it should be "easy" to fix though as instead of the branches <series>-eol tags should be used for cinder repo checkout | 14:48 |
| elodilles | (famous last words? o:)) | 14:48 |
| elodilles | anyway, we will see | 14:48 |
| elodilles | i'll might be also off for some days in august, but i don't have big plans ahead... | 14:49 |
| elodilles | okay, if there is no other topic to discuss, then let's not waste our time and let's end the meeting! | 14:50 |
| elodilles | thanks everyone for participating & see you in 2 weeks at the usual meating time on Friday 14:00 UTC @ Aug 11th (note that next week's meeting is marked as 'skipped'!) | 14:51 |
| hberaud | thanks elodilles | 14:51 |
| elodilles | #endmeeting | 14:51 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Jul 27 14:51:54 2023 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:51 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2023/releaseteam.2023-07-27-14.00.html | 14:51 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2023/releaseteam.2023-07-27-14.00.txt | 14:51 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2023/releaseteam.2023-07-27-14.00.log.html | 14:51 |
| elodilles | thanks too o/ | 14:52 |
| opendevreview | Vishal Manchanda proposed openstack/releases master: Add xstatic-angular-fileupload first release via the releases repo https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/889385 | 15:07 |
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