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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/releases master: Release pymod2pkg 0.22.1 https://review.opendev.org/685640 | 03:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Abhishek Kekane proposed openstack/releases master: Release glance_store 1.0.1 https://review.opendev.org/685050 | 05:25 |
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| toabctl | ttx, evrardjp another pymod2pkg release is needed: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685640/ | 05:43 |
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| brtknr | smcginnis: is there anyone else here besides you who is able to +2 this: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/683398/ or let us know what the blocker is? | 09:02 |
| brtknr | AJaeger: ^ since you commented on the patch? | 09:03 |
| AJaeger | brtknr: I'm not a core, so cannot comment - the team might be in train release stress | 09:08 |
| brtknr | AJaeger: ah thanks for letting me know! | 09:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Witold Bedyk proposed openstack/releases master: Release monasca-thresh for Train https://review.opendev.org/685673 | 10:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Witold Bedyk proposed openstack/releases master: Fix command-line options formatting https://review.opendev.org/685677 | 10:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Rabotyagov (noonedeadpunk) proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Stein https://review.opendev.org/685683 | 11:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Rabotyagov (noonedeadpunk) proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Rocky https://review.opendev.org/685684 | 11:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Rabotyagov (noonedeadpunk) proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Queens https://review.opendev.org/685690 | 11:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release pymod2pkg 0.22.1 https://review.opendev.org/685640 | 11:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release glance_store 1.0.1 https://review.opendev.org/685050 | 14:33 |
| prometheanfire | swift still doesn't have a stable/train? | 14:36 |
| smcginnis_ | prometheanfire: Hmm, no. I see they just recently did their cycle highlights, but no release and branching yet. | 14:39 |
| * prometheanfire is wanting to start packaging and usually starts with swift, guess I can just do keystone | 14:41 | |
| smcginnis_ | timburke: Is this on your radar? ^ | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Add release notes links for train deliverables https://review.opendev.org/685729 | 15:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Add stein release note links https://review.opendev.org/685730 | 15:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Add rocky release note links https://review.opendev.org/685733 | 15:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Add Queens release note links https://review.opendev.org/685734 | 15:14 |
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| smcginnis | evrardjp: If you have a moment, can you push through the release note link patches I pushed up? Just adds the links to the projects that have added landing pages. | 15:29 |
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| evrardjp | will do when I am finished with what takes my brain power away | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | I mean for today, not forever | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | :p | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:33 |
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| evrardjp | smcginnis: did you use a tooling for those ? It seems the deliverable files cycle highlights have been reformatted | 17:47 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: Yeah, that's done with "tools/add_release_note_links.sh train" | 17:48 |
| smcginnis | We do seem to always get updates to the formatting. | 17:48 |
| evrardjp | yeah -- I am worried the next patch with new-release on one of those files will update it back :p | 17:48 |
| smcginnis | I think it's the difference of the formatted output from this and new-release versus what someone has done by hand. | 17:48 |
| smcginnis | So probably going to happen sooner or later. | 17:48 |
| evrardjp | oh ok | 17:49 |
| evrardjp | also sometmes tge release-notes line is not at the last line, so it's an exercise to really follow this :p | 17:49 |
| smcginnis | You typically don't need to scutinize these too closely. | 17:50 |
| evrardjp | I know, call it my OCD :p | 17:51 |
| evrardjp | haha | 17:51 |
| evrardjp | I must say that I like gerrit for making my jobe easier with the multiple shades of gr~ay~een | 17:51 |
| smcginnis | ;) | 17:53 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: is there an urgency for those things? | 17:53 |
| smcginnis | Not partocularly, but it's helpful for downstream to make those available when we can. | 17:54 |
| smcginnis | You can just single approve. | 17:54 |
| evrardjp | yeah I was just wondering. the fact that it was automated + the fact that was necessary could make it +w | 17:54 |
| evrardjp | or this. | 17:54 |
| evrardjp | ok | 17:54 |
| evrardjp | will do | 17:54 |
| smcginnis | Really the only reason I didn't just push them through on my own was etiquette. :) | 17:55 |
| evrardjp | Well exactly why I asked :p | 17:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Add Queens release note links https://review.opendev.org/685734 | 18:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Add rocky release note links https://review.opendev.org/685733 | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Add stein release note links https://review.opendev.org/685730 | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Add release notes links for train deliverables https://review.opendev.org/685729 | 18:11 |
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| evrardjp | mmm | 18:50 |
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| evrardjp | thanks for handling those release failures | 18:52 |
| smcginnis | Not much to handle there. Luckily the docs get fully published every time, so it should all get sorted out in the end. | 18:53 |
| smcginnis | I guess another reason we should do those patches fequently so we don't build up too many in one patch. | 18:53 |
| evrardjp | yeah well that was my next questions, how can I ensure the queens page are well published | 18:53 |
| evrardjp | yeah that too | 18:54 |
| evrardjp | maybe it's worth adding on the creation of the new file directly nowadays? | 18:54 |
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| smcginnis | We can't add it until the page has actually been created. And that doesn't happen until some point after the stable branch is created. | 18:54 |
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| smcginnis | Maybe we could have a process where we run the script the Friday afternoon after every deadline (non-client freeze, client freeze, rc1, etc.) | 18:55 |
| evrardjp | can it be done during branch creation? | 18:58 |
| evrardjp | I mean when the line for dict for branches appear | 18:58 |
| evrardjp | the userfriendliness of the thing though will be aweful | 18:59 |
| smcginnis | No, because that branch creation triggers the automated patch that adds the landing page. So we have a time delta between the branch creation and when the team approves that patch to create the page. | 18:59 |
| evrardjp | awful* | 18:59 |
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| evrardjp | yeah exactly -- I thought we could have two patches but that's where I said the userfriendliness would be aweful | 18:59 |
| evrardjp | you have one file edited, and the user must know the things to add | 19:00 |
| evrardjp | to include depends-on | 19:00 |
| evrardjp | I can't expect that to happen :p | 19:00 |
| evrardjp | yeah so approach to do it regularily is indeed the best | 19:00 |
| smcginnis | Validation would fail on the depends-on patch. And it would generate a lot of patches. SO yeah, I think we're stuck just doing them often enough that it's not an issue. | 19:01 |
| evrardjp | do we have a guesstimate when too much is too much? | 19:03 |
| evrardjp | I remember OSA was a problem in the past, when we used to tag all roles | 19:04 |
| smcginnis | It seems like we used to be able to do more than what those had, but that's just anecdotal. I don't have any metrics from past ones. | 19:04 |
| evrardjp | ok | 19:04 |
| evrardjp | I will still try to remember this | 19:04 |
| smcginnis | Really not a big deal since it has eventual consistency. But it would help avoid confusion (and having this discussion again) if we remember to do more often. ;) | 19:05 |
| evrardjp | yeah sorry for the long convo | 19:06 |
| evrardjp | on a different topic: We still have this ongoing: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684039/ | 19:06 |
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| smcginnis | That can probably sit for awhile yet. Just affects how long the requirements freeze is in effect. | 19:12 |
| evrardjp | yeah I am not too familiar of our interactions with requirements | 19:13 |
| evrardjp | when this merges, it allows to redo things in the newly created branch right? | 19:14 |
| evrardjp | why do we want to not branch early and just prevent patches from merging in said branch? | 19:14 |
| smcginnis | Basically it makes it so master is ussuri and can accept updates. | 19:14 |
| evrardjp | yeah, so my question still applies -- the projects are refering to constraints inside their tox pointing to a fixed url per branch | 19:15 |
| smcginnis | I think the risk with branching before other "core" projects is that if we accepted requirements changes for ussuri, any project that had not branched yet would be testing with the wrong requirements enforced and when they finally do create their stable branch they could suddenly be broken. | 19:16 |
| evrardjp | oh wait | 19:16 |
| smcginnis | I think it's a low risk. | 19:16 |
| smcginnis | But best to wait and try to avoid it just in case. | 19:16 |
| evrardjp | no got it, we still point to master in master to become train, we don't change it at the automated beginning of a cycle | 19:16 |
| evrardjp | that's maybe something we can do, so we can do this kind of things early? | 19:16 |
| evrardjp | or maybe that's me thinking differently there :p | 19:17 |
| evrardjp | I should probably put that in my "ideas" box. | 19:18 |
| smcginnis | Maybe we can talk through any ideas with Matthew later. I was going to say in Shanghai, but I don't think he's going to make it there. | 19:19 |
| evrardjp | well, we could float the crazy ideas into our sessions at Shanghai, and whatever comes out of this can be put into the next gen's etherpad | 19:20 |
| evrardjp | or whatever | 19:20 |
| evrardjp | basically hearing noob questions could make us rethink some things that might simplify our life down the line | 19:21 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 19:21 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: fun I am reading last meeting's log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-09-27-15.00.log.html#l-230 | 19:27 |
| smcginnis | :) | 19:28 |
| evrardjp | don't smile yet | 19:28 |
| evrardjp | except if you have highlighting and that's the right line | 19:28 |
| evrardjp | haha | 19:28 |
| evrardjp | 15:52:06 | 19:28 |
| evrardjp | do you need help on stable/train branching for those that missed it? | 19:30 |
| evrardjp | it seems the only exception yet we have is glance, or maybe I missed another one ? | 19:32 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: Yep, glance is the only cycle-with-rc that has not branched yet. Just waiting on the glance_store requirements update to go through I think. | 19:33 |
| smcginnis | Then there are some cycle-with-intermediary ones that I'm not sure whether they have updates coming. | 19:33 |
| smcginnis | I've noticed we're not very clear on the c-w-i deadline. | 19:34 |
| smcginnis | We should probably talk about that in the next meeting and get it more explicit. | 19:34 |
| smcginnis | The big one there is swift. | 19:34 |
| evrardjp | iirc there was some ironic deliverables as c-w-i that I am not sure we did | 19:35 |
| evrardjp | but it's almost 10pm and my memory wades | 19:35 |
| evrardjp | wanes* | 19:35 |
| timburke | oh hi! | 19:35 |
| evrardjp | thought google tells me wades also work in this case. | 19:36 |
| timburke | yeah, swift should be requesting a tag (and cutting a branch) soon | 19:36 |
| evrardjp | timburke: hey :) | 19:36 |
| evrardjp | awesome | 19:36 |
| timburke | waiting for another review on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684041/ | 19:36 |
| timburke | because request smuggling is bad ;-) | 19:36 |
| evrardjp | that sounds like something super cool though | 19:37 |
| evrardjp | ok joke aside, thanks for being already reactive :) | 19:37 |
| timburke | it was a very fun find. now to get it fixed... in swift, in eventlet, in cpython... | 19:37 |
| smcginnis | Oh, interesting one. | 19:38 |
| smcginnis | Thanks timburke | 19:38 |
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| evrardjp | Yup Indeed. | 19:42 |
| evrardjp | Ok I am cooked, if you need help, just ping me what to do, I will do it tomorrow. | 19:43 |
| prometheanfire | smcginnis: thanks | 19:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Add list-deliverables switch for cycle-based-no-trailing https://review.opendev.org/685781 | 19:55 |
| smcginnis | prometheanfire: ^^ | 19:55 |
| prometheanfire | thanks :D | 19:57 |
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