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| ttx | smcginnis: meeting? | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 31 16:01:43 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | People need to stop pinging me right before meeting start times. :) | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Not referring to you - others that are making me late. | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-relmgt-tracking | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Ping list: smcginnis ttx dhellmann diablo_rojo hberaud evrardjp | 16:02 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | OK, good... | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | #topic Review days | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review days (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:04 | |
| smcginnis | Now that we have a few more folks, it would be good to redo what our review days are. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | And actually get it written down. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | I've added a section to the top of the tracking etherpad. | 16:05 |
| evrardjp | sounds good | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: You around? | 16:05 |
| hberaud | o/ | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | Welcome! | 16:05 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Kinda.. | 16:06 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | In Brussels about to figure out dinner, but can follow along here :) | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: OK, just wanted to make sure you were at least aware of the review days. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: When you have time, please add your name to one of the days on the top of the tracking etherpad. | 16:07 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Much appreciated smcginnis :) | 16:07 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Will do! | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | Any questions, concerns, comments on review days? | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | ttx, dhellmann: or additional commentary? | 16:08 |
| dhellmann | I've signed up for friday, which is usually a light day, so I can float on other days for a while, too | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 16:09 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Nothing from me. I picked Tuesday but if we want me to shift I can do that too. | 16:09 |
| ttx | LGTM | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: I will do the same. Will be helpful while evrardjp and diablo_rojo_phon get up to speed. | 16:09 |
| evrardjp | I picked the last day | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | If any of these end up to be particularly troublesome days for anyone, just let us know and we can adjust. | 16:10 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | #topic Clarify Stein membership status for tripleo-common-tempest-plugin | 16:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Clarify Stein membership status for tripleo-common-tempest-plugin (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:10 | |
| smcginnis | ttx: You have the background on this? | 16:10 |
| ttx | sure | 16:11 |
| ttx | It's the last leftover on the MembershipFreeze analysis | 16:11 |
| ttx | (a repo that is in governance but not defined in release management yet) | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | Do they not expect to be ready for any releases in stein? | 16:11 |
| ttx | When I last asked EmilienM he said he was not sure | 16:11 |
| ttx | as the created got reassigned | 16:12 |
| ttx | I think we could just consider it Train material if it ever gets picked up | 16:12 |
| EmilienM | hello | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | Hey EmilienM | 16:12 |
| ttx | just wanted to double-check with y'all if that was ok | 16:12 |
| ttx | (including EmilienM ) | 16:13 |
| dhellmann | it's also a tempest plugin, so it could be independent if needed for now | 16:13 |
| EmilienM | jaosorior: do you know the status on tripleo-common-tempest-plugin ? | 16:13 |
| EmilienM | tbh I don't think this repo is going anywhere, it has a super low activity | 16:13 |
| ttx | ok, so safe to skip | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | Are there any tests defined? | 16:13 |
| jaosorior | EmilienM: let me figure that out | 16:14 |
| EmilienM | it is safe to skip yes | 16:14 |
| jaosorior | EmilienM: chandankumar might know. He's not online though. so I'll ask him tomorrow | 16:14 |
| ttx | let's say that we'll ignore it unless you tell us otherwise | 16:14 |
| jaosorior | EmilienM: but yeah, lets skip it | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | Looks like just the framework with no tests. | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | I'm fine skipping it for now and reevaluating during train. | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | Any objections to that plan or other thoughts? | 16:15 |
| EmilienM | +2 | 16:15 |
| jaosorior | +1 | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | OK, thanks everyone. | 16:16 |
| jaosorior | thank you! | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | #topic Organize pre s-final-lib tasks | 16:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Organize pre s-final-lib tasks (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:16 | |
| smcginnis | #link https://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/master/doc/source/reference/process.rst#between-milestone-2-and-milestone-3 | 16:16 |
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| ttx | So I copied a bunch to the Stein-3 - 2 week | 16:17 |
| ttx | since they were marked "two weeks before" | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | That looks good. | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | The artifact signing key is an important one. | 16:18 |
| ttx | We did That left two, one that you covered in a weekly email | 16:18 |
| ttx | the other I left to discuss | 16:18 |
| ttx | "Follow up with PTLs and liaisons for projects that missed the second milestone, or still haven’t done their library releases yet ?" | 16:18 |
| ttx | Also for R-7 I won't be much around so it might be a good idea to pre-assign those tasks | 16:19 |
| ttx | just in case people have questions on how to do them | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | So we should probably change that wording in the process doc since the cycle-with-rc change makes "missing the second milestone" the norm. | 16:19 |
| dhellmann | good point | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | We have the automatic releases for libraries, but from the paste of a run I did this morning, looks like there maybe should have been a couple that were somehow missed. | 16:20 |
| ttx | did we follow up with those intermediary who did not release before milestone-2 though | 16:20 |
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| smcginnis | I thought so? I should look again. | 16:20 |
| * ttx tries to remember if those should be switched to cycle-with-rc immediately, or after stein-3 | 16:21 | |
| smcginnis | Probably after stein-3? | 16:21 |
| ttx | hmm | 16:21 |
| ttx | "Two weeks before milestone 3, warn cycle-with-intermediary projects that had changes over the cycle but no release yet that the release team will tag HEAD of master for their project if they have not prepared a release by the following week so that there is a fallback release to use for the cycle and as a place to create their stable branch." | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | Well, it's possible there's a script issue, but "list-deliverables --unreleased --model cycle-with-intermediary" doesn't look like any missed unless I'm misinterpreting the output. | 16:22 |
| dhellmann | step 5 under https://releases.openstack.org/reference/process.html#between-milestone-2-and-milestone-3 | 16:22 |
| ttx | not sure we documented that "switch to rc " policy | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | I don't think so. | 16:22 |
| ttx | smcginnis: I haven't tracked closely which emails of the new policy ended up being sent | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | I've added a note for the R-7 countdown email to make sure to include that message. | 16:24 |
| ttx | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-relmgt-auto-release-change has in "email 4": | 16:24 |
| ttx | "To encourage (force?) this, we would require at least two releases of a non-library cycle-with-intermediary project during the cycle. If a release is not done by milestone 2, these projects would be switched to the new cycle-with-rc. " | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | I thought we (I) had sent all of those, but now I'm wondering about that last one. | 16:25 |
| dhellmann | wouldn't hurt to send a reminder, even if we did send that | 16:25 |
| ttx | It's a bit late to send it if we haven't though | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | Yeah | 16:26 |
| dhellmann | I get a rather long list of things that haven't released | 16:27 |
| ttx | not surprising | 16:28 |
| dhellmann | although a bunch of those are tempest plugins so I should filter it more | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | I guess so: http://paste.openstack.org/show/744320/ | 16:28 |
| dhellmann | 91 without filtering | 16:28 |
| ttx | I feel like we missed our window | 16:28 |
| dhellmann | we could change the deadline | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | I agree. We can still propose to change these to cycle-with-rc and have a conversation with the teams over the patch for it. | 16:29 |
| ttx | stein-3? | 16:29 |
| ttx | So/// mandate at least one, and done before stein-3? | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | list-deliverables --unreleased --model cycle-with-intermediary --type library --type client-library --type service --type horizon-plugin -> 45 | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 16:29 |
| ttx | rather than mandate at least 2 with one done before stein-2 | 16:29 |
| ttx | and keep that "evolution" for Train | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | I can include that in today's countdown email. | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | well, at least 2 with 1 before s-3 | 16:29 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I think it's a bit late to announce that if we have not mentioned it before | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | we should make sure we haven't actually mentioned it, I guess | 16:30 |
| * ttx is searching email archives | 16:30 | |
| dhellmann | there are only 10 unreleased services | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | aodh, ceilometer, cloudkitty, magnum, panko, solum, tacker, tricircle, watcher, zun | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | I can include that list in the countdown and refer to our stated changes that these should consider switching to cycle-with-rc. | 16:32 |
| ttx | yeah can't find anything beyond email 1 | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | I know I sent at least up to 3. | 16:33 |
| ttx | oh | 16:33 |
| ttx | Proposed changes for cycle-with-intermediary services releases, December 3 | 16:33 |
| ttx | "If a release is not done by milestone 2, these projects would be switched to | 16:33 |
| ttx | the new cycle-with-rc. | 16:33 |
| ttx | so it was announced! | 16:34 |
| ttx | and ignored | 16:34 |
| dhellmann | so a reminder with a link to the patch making the change seems like a good idea | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | I had the feeling it was, but no proof :) | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | thanks for the grep skills ttx :p | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | OK, so I think I can propose patches changing the deliverables in that list to -rc and add the PTLs to it. Then we can discuss on there. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Do you have a date on that email? | 16:35 |
| evrardjp | He said december3? | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | Oh, sorry. :) | 16:35 |
| ttx | Yep. I guess if someone replies with an immediate release request that's fine too | 16:35 |
| dhellmann | sure, that works for me | 16:35 |
| ttx | It's one of the first to be sent to -discuss | 16:35 |
| ttx | maybe it was missed | 16:36 |
| evrardjp | oh that's why I didn't find it in dev: ) | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | High probability of that. | 16:36 |
| ttx | So some reminder email would not hurt | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | I'll mention in the countdown, then get some patches up to change those. | 16:36 |
| ttx | and offer the option to immediately do an intermediary release if they really don't want to be cycle-with-rc | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | We said milestone 2, but I think we can be flexible. | 16:37 |
| ttx | yeah, we did not really handle comms on that perfectly around milestone-2 :) | 16:37 |
| dhellmann | yeah :-/ | 16:37 |
| ttx | that also points to missing doc in PROCESS | 16:38 |
| ttx | we trusted PROCESS but it was not updated | 16:38 |
| dhellmann | good point | 16:39 |
| ttx | which is why we missed | 16:39 |
| ttx | at least why I missed it | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I think we need to go through that whole doc and make sure it's still accurate too. | 16:39 |
| evrardjp | that sounds a good idea. Is it too late to do it at the next summit together? | 16:39 |
| ttx | It's not, since it does not mention anythign about switching to cycle-with-rc after milestone-2 | 16:39 |
| dhellmann | yeah, we really need to review that every cycle | 16:39 |
| ttx | that December 3 email is not reflected in there afaict | 16:40 |
| ttx | ok, let's add that as tasks for R-9 | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | OK, thanks for adding that. | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | Anything else we should cover on this topic? | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open discussion | 16:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:42 | |
| ttx | smcginnis: do the tasks I added for next week correctly cover the work that needs to be done? | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | I think so. That covers the notes I had written down. | 16:43 |
| dhellmann | I think that covers it | 16:43 |
| dhellmann | ttx: we should make the change patch first so we can link to it in the email | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 16:43 |
| ttx | switched | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | OK, anything else? | 16:43 |
| dhellmann | nothing from me | 16:44 |
| ttx | nope | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | Have fund at FOSDEM. | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | *fun | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | And have funds... | 16:44 |
| evrardjp | one is required for the other | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | Alright, thanks everyone. | 16:45 |
| ttx | Thanks smcginnis ! | 16:45 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Release Managers office - Come here to discuss how to release OpenStack components - Logged at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-release/" | 16:45 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 31 16:45:23 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-01-31-16.01.html | 16:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-01-31-16.01.txt | 16:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-01-31-16.01.log.html | 16:45 |
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