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| dims_ | lifeless : would you have some time to look at the project-requirements-change.py change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238871/ | 01:15 |
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| lifeless | dims_: not today sorry, its gone crazy on me and that change needs my full attention.I'll make time in the weekend / monday | 01:16 |
| dims_ | no worries. thanks lifeless | 01:17 |
| lifeless | dims_: (as you know, its gnarly) | 01:17 |
| dims_ | i hear ya. | 01:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fei Long Wang proposed openstack/releases: Release Zaqar 2.0.0b1 https://review.openstack.org/252446 | 01:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Lees proposed openstack/releases: Release oslo.privsep 0.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/253314 | 04:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Lees proposed openstack/releases: Force basepython=python2.7 https://review.openstack.org/253315 | 04:30 |
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| skraynev | ttx: was done. thx for leaving comment to review ;) | 06:24 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Tox tests are broken at the moment. From openstack-infra we are working to fix them. Please don't approve changes until we notify that tox tests work again. | 09:31 | |
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| ttx | #success The new mitaka release schedule page is up! | 10:49 |
| openstackstatus | ttx: Added success to Success page | 10:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Release oslo.privsep 0.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/253314 | 11:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ttx: great stuff with that page, I will try add a review for the nova items, etc | 11:59 |
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| dtantsur | hi folks! does the new procedure mean that the release team no longer manages (e.g. closes) milestone launchpad pages? | 13:25 |
| dtantsur | I remember when I used the release scripts myself, they closed the milestone and uploaded the tarball to launchpad | 13:26 |
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| dhellmann | SergeyLukjanov : thanks for confirming | 13:47 |
| dhellmann | dtantsur : yes, that's right. We're moving away from using launchpad for tracking completed work. That's why reno integration was a requirement before tagging this milestone. | 13:48 |
| dhellmann | ttx: good morning | 13:48 |
| ttx | morn | 13:50 |
| dhellmann | ttx: nice work on that release schedule page, it looks good | 13:56 |
| ttx | yeah, the challenge was to make it not significantly more ugly than the wiki page, and then make it more rich | 13:57 |
| dhellmann | yeah, rst is good for docs but less good for ensuring legibility of complex data like that | 13:57 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I added a few points to the meeting agenda | 13:58 |
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| dhellmann | ok, I saw a couple of them | 13:59 |
| dtantsur | dhellmann, thanks! does it mean we can stop creating milestones in LP completely, if we feel like? | 14:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Release Zaqar 2.0.0b1 https://review.openstack.org/252446 | 14:14 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: see f4c4dd2 in the post column at http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 15:02 |
| ttx | I'll delay the announcement until that is completed, since we link to the page and it's currently missing the zaqar line | 15:03 |
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| ttx | ok, ready now | 15:17 |
| ttx | and sent | 15:18 |
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| dhellmann | dtantsur : yes, though you may want to consider using them for planning. it's up to you, though. | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | ttx: thanks! | 15:27 |
| dtantsur | understood, thanks | 15:28 |
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| ttx | #success mitaka-1 complete! | 15:31 |
| openstackstatus | ttx: Added success to Success page | 15:31 |
| jokke_ | :) | 15:31 |
| dims | ttx : "clouseau" - hahaha +1 | 15:33 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: I forgot to mention in the meeting that I'll be out for the next 2 fridays. Do you want to chair those meetings with dims and jokke_? | 15:42 |
| ttx | dhellmann: sure! | 15:43 |
| dhellmann | ty | 15:43 |
| ttx | though obviously nothing will get done while you're away. | 15:43 |
| dims | ttx: fyi, i am in Russia/Ukraine TZ the next week and half. So i may miss one meeting. | 15:43 |
| mordred | so, if I wanted to get on the reno bandwagon for occ, do I need to run any of that by y'all? or just start doing it? | 15:45 |
| mordred | also - I have a feature request that I'd be more than happy to do the coding on if it would be an acceptable thing to y'all | 15:46 |
| mordred | which is that I think I may also want to use reno in shade - but I'd kind of just like to integrate the output of it with ... wait. nevermind | 15:47 |
| mordred | I think I just realized how to do what I wanted while saying things outloud | 15:47 |
| dhellmann | mordred : you can just add reno to your project, no need to coordinate, though I'd be happy to review patches if you like | 15:49 |
| dhellmann | and if you have a feature request, let me know -- reno is far from "done" so we may already be thinking about the same thing | 15:50 |
| mordred | dhellmann: well, I was about to say "I don't want to have a second sphinx location for shade" - but I do not believe I need one now that I read the docs :) | 15:51 |
| dhellmann | mordred : we split them out so the publish URL could be /releasenotes instead of /developer but that's up to you, yes | 15:52 |
| dhellmann | and for other libs we split them so the deployer-focused release notes were not in the developer docs | 15:52 |
| mordred | yah - makes sense for openstack for sure | 15:53 |
| mordred | and I think following the pattern for occ makes total sense | 15:53 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I'm just explaining the logic so you understand how we decided -- what you do is up to you | 15:53 |
| dhellmann | ttx: do you have a minute to look over my email to unmanaged projects about recording their milestones? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/bu9MmbTvpC | 15:59 |
| ttx | dhellmann: sure | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | I left out reno this time, and just focused on the version change | 16:00 |
| ttx | let's do that before executing that monitor-frying xrandr script | 16:00 |
| * dhellmann googles xrandr | 16:00 | |
| ttx | looks good | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | oh, I sometimes get nostalgic for X and then something like this comes up and I remember why I'm glad I don't use it any more | 16:01 |
| ttx | dhellmann: you can happily ignore it if you don't need it | 16:01 |
| ttx | email looks good, just changed it so that people don't assume release:unmanaged is a thing | 16:02 |
| ttx | and now boom | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I realized as I was pasting it into my mailer that I would need to change that | 16:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add instructions for setting URL to release notes https://review.openstack.org/253590 | 16:34 |
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| mordred | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/253597 | 16:49 |
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| mordred | dhellmann: any way to get the release notes for things that are not released yet to be labeled "unreleased changes" instead of "1.3.0-1"? or is there a different approach I should be using? | 16:50 |
| dhellmann | mordred: we would have to change reno to rename those versions, but we can do that | 16:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: elaborate on how to check out releases repo to run releases by hand https://review.openstack.org/253599 | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: elaborate on requirements handling in the scripts https://review.openstack.org/253600 | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: add instructions for using announce.sh https://review.openstack.org/253601 | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: remove release_postversion.sh https://review.openstack.org/253602 | 17:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: cosmetic changes to command examples https://review.openstack.org/253603 | 17:00 |
| mordred | dhellmann: I can probably make a patch - do you think that shoudl be configurable behavior? | 17:03 |
| dhellmann | mordred : no, I don't think we need an option for that | 17:04 |
| mordred | dhellmann: there is a comment that says it looks at pbr or git describe - but the code only looks at git describe - should I also make a patch to mkae the code match the comment? or should the comment go away? | 17:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Lingxian Kong proposed openstack/releases: Release mistral-dashboard 2.0.0 beta 1 https://review.openstack.org/253609 | 17:06 |
| dhellmann | mordred : the comment is wrong | 17:06 |
| dhellmann | if you would clean that up, too, I'd appreciate it | 17:06 |
| mordred | dhellmann: kk | 17:06 |
| mordred | sure nuff! | 17:07 |
| dhellmann | ty | 17:07 |
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| mordred | dhellmann: btw- your version walking code is better than what we use in pbr to generate changelogs | 17:18 |
| mordred | dhellmann: I think we should steal it | 17:18 |
| mordred | dhellmann: becuase pbr changelogs erroniously put entries with tags based on merge commit - but commits that were made before one tag then merged later will show up in the wrong spot | 17:19 |
| dhellmann | mordred : it's broken :-/ https://bugs.launchpad.net/reno/+bug/1522153 | 17:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1522153 in reno "Merge commits confuse the version detection" [Undecided,New] | 17:21 |
| dhellmann | so I think both sets of logic are broken in different ways | 17:21 |
| mordred | oh. | 17:23 |
| mordred | heh | 17:23 |
| mordred | awesome | 17:23 |
| mordred | it's a lovely tree walking problem | 17:23 |
| dhellmann | I was planning to look at that next week, if I have time | 17:23 |
| dhellmann | yeah, it looks like there are some options we can give to git log to change the order, so I was going to experiment with them. I need to come up with a test case demonstrating the brokenness first | 17:24 |
| dhellmann | and if that fails, mtreinish's suggestion of brute-force querying by tag separately may be the best alternative | 17:25 |
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| mtreinish | dhellmann: heh, it's ugly, but it would be pretty simple I think :) | 18:11 |
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| dhellmann | mtreinish : true | 18:53 |
| mtreinish | dhellmann: I tried to doodle on it a bit the other day, and the only hangup I found was projects that have non-numeric tags or change versioning | 18:55 |
| mtreinish | because tags don't have dates associated with them just a sha1 | 18:55 |
| dhellmann | mtreinish : yeah, you almost have to pull the tags in order first, then go back and pull the notes between the tags | 18:55 |
| dhellmann | mtreinish : that's why I was looking at some of the options like --topo-order | 18:57 |
| mtreinish | dhellmann: oh, that looks like it should do the right thing | 18:58 |
| mtreinish | I figured there would be a git option to do it, just didn't know what it was | 18:58 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I need to put together a good test case to demonstrate how it's failing now, and then I can work out how to fix it | 18:59 |
| dhellmann | I'm worried it might introduce a different ordering bug, showing commits too early instead of too late or not at all | 18:59 |
| mtreinish | well the bug I hit was the commit showing up too early, but yeah I can understand that concern | 19:00 |
| dhellmann | so was it showing up with a version number too low, or too high? | 19:01 |
| dhellmann | I was using early in terms of the git log output stream, which would give something a higher version number than it should have | 19:02 |
| mtreinish | dhellmann: it's showing up on 1.0.2 but it was part of 1.1.0 | 19:04 |
| dhellmann | ok, that's what I thought | 19:05 |
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| fungi | dhellmann: i'm working on the juno-eol repos list now before i begin pulling triggers... http://paste.openstack.org/show/480920/ is the list of repos which belong to official deliverables tagged release:managed and release:has-stable-branches which have branches named stable/juno | 19:08 |
| fungi | dhellmann: can i assume those 40 are in the safe set? | 19:08 |
| mtreinish | fungi: can you also do devstack and grenade while you're in a tagging mood :) | 19:08 |
| fungi | dhellmann: additionally http://paste.openstack.org/show/480921/ are the ones with release:has-stable-branches but not release:managed and i know there are at least some we'll add | 19:08 |
| fungi | mtreinish: ^ you read my mind! | 19:09 |
| mtreinish | fungi: heh | 19:09 |
| fungi | devstack, grenade, oslo-incubator and requirements at a minimum | 19:09 |
| dhellmann | fungi : that description matches my expectations, but it'd be good to confirm with ttx since he handled the juno release and he and I haven't discussed this | 19:09 |
| fungi | thanks | 19:10 |
| fungi | ttx: ^ when you're bored enjoying your friday evening and get a hankering to do more exciting openstack things | 19:10 |
| mtreinish | fungi: oh, this reminds me I never pushed the tempest tag to indicate the end of juno support (which we stopped as soon as the last tag was pushed) | 19:10 |
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| fungi | good deal | 19:11 |
| dhellmann | fungi : you may want to talk to the astara team before deleting branches in their repo, since they're new and may have different expectations -- just to avoid a surprise | 19:12 |
| fungi | dhellmann: right, that second list is stuff i wouldn't delete without explicit confirmation since they're not release:managed | 19:12 |
| dhellmann | right, ok | 19:12 |
| fungi | oh, for completeness i'll also make an outlier list of repos with stable/juno branches but no release:has-stable-branches tag in governance (there will be a lot, official and unofficial, but makes a good crosscheck of our tags) | 19:13 |
| dhellmann | are you querying gerrit for that list directly or are you running something against all of the repos locally? | 19:13 |
| fungi | lots of local experimentation | 19:13 |
| fungi | a combination of git commands over a complete clone of all our hosted repos, and manipulating a pyyaml load of the governance projects.yaml file | 19:14 |
| fungi | and the some combinatorial comparisons in shell loops | 19:14 |
| fungi | in other words, terrible ugliness | 19:14 |
| fungi | unfortunately, like with our election process, the eol process has to be revisited every cycle because of changes to how we model and track things in governance | 19:15 |
| * dhellmann nods and hands fungi a beer | 19:15 | |
| fungi | so attempting to automate it would probably not be a worthwhile use of my time | 19:16 |
| fungi | thanks, beer indeed | 19:16 |
| fungi | dhellmann: 33 official repos have a stable/juno branch but lack the release:has-stable-branches governance tag http://paste.openstack.org/show/480924/ | 19:27 |
| fungi | i don't see anything there which jumps out at me as missed | 19:28 |
| fungi | mostly puppet/chef | 19:28 |
| dhellmann | fungi : ttx and I have planned to audit the repos with branches but not the tag as part of spinning up the new stable team. | 19:31 |
| fungi | and finally, 17 unofficial repos with stable/juno branches which we shouldn't need to care about at all http://paste.openstack.org/show/480929 | 19:31 |
| dhellmann | fungi : the kolla and mistral-extra repos are product repos, I think | 19:32 |
| fungi | makes sense | 19:32 |
| fungi | anyway, the current plan is the 40 release:managed release:has-stable-branch repos plus the other four known qa/oslo/cp repos i mentioned earlier | 19:33 |
| fungi | mtreinish already okayed devstack and grenade | 19:34 |
| fungi | and i'll pretend that as infra ptl i can justify the requirements repo myself | 19:35 |
| fungi | dims: any opposition to me getting rid og the stable/juno branch on oslo-incubator when i do the others even though it's not release:managed? | 19:35 |
| fungi | er, getting rid of | 19:36 |
| fungi | there won't be any repos left taking syncs of that branch from incubator anyway, so presumably it's safe | 19:36 |
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| dims | fungi: +1 from me | 19:41 |
| fungi | thanks | 19:42 |
| dhellmann | fungi : that plan sounds reasonable | 19:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Devananda van der Veen proposed openstack/releases: Release Ironic 4.3.0 https://review.openstack.org/253705 | 21:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Devananda van der Veen proposed openstack/releases: Release Ironic 4.2.2 (stable/liberty) https://review.openstack.org/253708 | 21:23 |
| devananda | dhellmann: ^ my first time proposing releases since the switch, since jroll is out this week. | 21:24 |
| dhellmann | devananda : I'll take a look now, but probably won't process them until monday | 21:25 |
| devananda | I'm unclear on how reno is going to work for 4.3.0 ... seems like there needs to be something esle | 21:25 |
| devananda | dhellmann: no worries. the security fixes are out there | 21:25 |
| dhellmann | devananda : oh, right, forgot this was a security thing. if you need me to release them today I can | 21:25 |
| dhellmann | for reno, it'll show up on http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/ironic-inspector/unreleased.html. Since you're cycle-with-intermediary you might want to rename that page master.html or something similar | 21:27 |
| devananda | dhellmann: 4.2.2 might be more important of a release, as the vuln affects stable/liberty | 21:27 |
| dhellmann | ok, sure. for that one the notes will show up on http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/ironic-inspector/liberty.html | 21:28 |
| devananda | I think you mean http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/ironic/liberty.html :) | 21:28 |
| dhellmann | oops, yes | 21:28 |
| devananda | and yes, it shows up there. except without any other liberty notes | 21:28 |
| dhellmann | that explains why those version numbers were so different :-) | 21:28 |
| devananda | heh | 21:28 |
| dhellmann | you could back-port your liberty notes from the wiki if you want | 21:29 |
| devananda | hm, right. I htink someone was working on that | 21:30 |
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| dhellmann | I've been thinking that in addition to the smart detection, reno might need to let us specify the version for a given note file | 21:31 |
| dhellmann | that way we can add notes about old releases like this | 21:31 |
| dhellmann | I'll process the 4.2.2 release right now | 21:32 |
| devananda | right now, we'd have to convert them into a reno-like format | 21:32 |
| devananda | thanks much. I think we can land the release notes change to stable/liberty without needing a new release, right? | 21:32 |
| dhellmann | you could also just paste them into that file as restructured text, under a new version heading | 21:32 |
| dhellmann | you can, yes | 21:32 |
| devananda | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250526 ? | 21:33 |
| dhellmann | in fact, pasting them in as restructured text is probably safer | 21:33 |
| dhellmann | yeah, there you go :-) | 21:33 |
| devananda | awesome | 21:33 |
| * devananda pushes that one in | 21:34 | |
| dhellmann | fungi, ttx: this conversation with devananda reminded me that one of the things we will need to remember to change about the stable branch EOL process is to collect all of the release notes for the branch in a static file that we check in once (in master) to replace the dynamically generated notes | 21:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Release Ironic 4.2.2 (stable/liberty) https://review.openstack.org/253708 | 21:37 |
| openstackgerrit | John Dickinson proposed openstack/releases: python-swiftclient 2.6.1 release https://review.openstack.org/253713 | 21:38 |
| dhellmann | devananda : the release is tagged. In the past I've let the PTL/liaison handle the announcements for server projects because the current announcement script is geared towards libraries not servers (deployers probably don't need the full git changelog) | 21:39 |
| dhellmann | devananda : I'm also running the batch update script against all of your current fix-committed bugs to mark them fix-released | 21:40 |
| dhellmann | it looks like there are quite a few of them | 21:40 |
| devananda | dhellmann: yes, tyvm | 21:40 |
| dhellmann | devananda : ok, all done | 21:41 |
| devananda | I'll leave the 4.3.0 announcement to jroll on Monday, too | 21:41 |
| dhellmann | devananda : yeah, I only processed 4.2.2 so far. I'll do 4.3.0 now | 21:42 |
| dhellmann | devananda : for 4.3.0, do you not want to call that 5.0.0 since it's the first mitaka cycle release? | 21:43 |
| dhellmann | you don't have to, but that's what most of the projects have started doing | 21:43 |
| devananda | I think jroll wants to follow a more semver-like numbering scheme | 21:46 |
| devananda | not date or cycle based | 21:47 |
| dhellmann | ok. I don't think we have a firm policy on that, so I'll leave it open until next week and we can discuss it | 21:47 |
| devananda | works for me | 21:47 |
| dhellmann | I'm on the fence about it myself | 21:48 |
| devananda | dhellmann: in theory, it could mean we have a 4.4 in the spring, and a 4.5 next fall | 21:48 |
| dhellmann | sure, and that may be fine | 21:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kyle Mestery proposed openstack/releases: Neutron 7.0.1 https://review.openstack.org/247790 | 22:26 |
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| devananda | dhellmann: will artifacts like https://launchpad.net/ironic/liberty/4.2.2 will be automatically created now? | 22:57 |
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| dhellmann | devananda : no, we're not using launchpad for tracking releases any more. That information is accessible via http://docs.openstack.org/releases/releases/liberty.html now | 23:11 |
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| devananda | dhellmann: ok, http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/ironic/liberty.html still shows 4.2.1-7 -- what updates that to 4.2.2 ? | 23:54 |
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