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| notmyname | pleia2: that's mine | 00:40 |
| pleia2 | notmyname: can you move it over to this channel? | 00:40 |
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| notmyname | pleia2: done. can you verify | 00:41 |
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| dhellmann | pleia2, notmyname : thanks! | 13:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases: Magnum and Solum don't have a liberty release yet https://review.openstack.org/242068 | 14:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases: Fix Mistral Liberty release https://review.openstack.org/242069 | 14:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases: Murano 2015.1.0 is not Liberty, it's Kilo https://review.openstack.org/242072 | 14:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases: Searchlight Liberty is 0.1.0, not 0.1.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/242073 | 14:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases: Fix murano-dashboard liberty releases https://review.openstack.org/242074 | 14:11 |
| ttx | dhellmann: that history import really could have used more reviews. I think I fixed all issues with it in ^ | 14:11 |
| ttx | There are some weird things around Astara 7.0.0 release (no tag in repo afaict) and Murano 1.0.0 (the tag is not on any branch there ?) | 14:15 |
| ttx | so I left them out for the time being | 14:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases: CloudKitty 0.4.x is Kilo, not Liberty https://review.openstack.org/242080 | 14:19 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: thanks, I'll review those updates today | 14:22 |
| ttx | dhellmann: there is the open question of whether we should list at all things without a stable/liberty branch there | 14:23 |
| ttx | I'll propose a change for that to see how that would look, but don't approve that one blindly :) | 14:24 |
| dhellmann | ttx: would that patch be removing things? | 14:25 |
| ttx | quite a few, let me propose it | 14:25 |
| ttx | dhellmann: for Murano 1.0.0 it appears it was tagged on some reference that does not exist in the repo... Could you check https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/murano ? | 14:27 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: 1.0.0 points to 2aa9f52d3885b503cc84af9e7efa57356bf03e79 in my local copy of murano | 14:35 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: while you're thinking about release versions, yesterday bdemers proposed retagging networking-cisco 2015.1.0 as 1.0.0 and tagging a liberty version as 2.0.0 soon | 14:39 |
| kzaitsev_mb | murano guy here. It appeares, that we've tagged the wrong branch with 1.0.0 (i.e. master instead of stable/liberty) =( Were planning on making a 1.0.1 tag shortly in the correct stable/liberty branch. Would that be the right thing to do? | 14:39 |
| dhellmann | ttx: gordc also wanted to tag a new version of aodh for liberty and create the missing stable branch | 14:39 |
| ttx | kzaitsev_mb: I think so. dhellmann what do you think ? | 14:40 |
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| dhellmann | kzaitsev_mb, ttx: yes, it needs a new version number and we have to leave the old one there | 14:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases: Fix vmware-nsx liberty release https://review.openstack.org/242088 | 14:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases: Reorder python-tripleoclient releases https://review.openstack.org/242089 | 14:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases: Remove Kilo releases from Liberty https://review.openstack.org/242092 | 14:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases: Remove projects without stable/liberty branch https://review.openstack.org/242098 | 14:52 |
| ttx | dhellmann: that last one is the one removing things which were added in the last history import but that don't have a stable/liberty branch | 14:53 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, that history importer is pretty blunt | 14:54 |
| ttx | dhellmann: the first ones in that series are the most urgent as they fix the "service" portion of the display (which we have been recommending people visit as the reference for what is "liberty") | 14:56 |
| ttx | the end of the patch series fixes things that appear deeper in the output :) | 14:57 |
| dhellmann | ttx: for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242068/1 instead of removing the files should they move to the kilo dir? | 14:57 |
| ttx | dhellmann: kilo was integrated release only | 14:58 |
| ttx | and those were not part of it | 14:58 |
| dhellmann | ok | 14:58 |
| ttx | dhellmann: missing W+1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242060/ so that blocks the others | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | oops | 15:00 |
| ttx | dhellmann: in other news, I think we need some type:agent thing for things like ironic-inspector or ironic-python-agent, to distinguish API services from long-running processes | 15:01 |
| ttx | I think that pollutes the "service" list currently | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | yeah, how detailed do we need to get with the type? service, lib, other seems like enough? | 15:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Add section for deliverables with no type https://review.openstack.org/242060 | 15:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Magnum and Solum don't have a liberty release yet https://review.openstack.org/242068 | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Fix Mistral Liberty release https://review.openstack.org/242069 | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Murano 2015.1.0 is not Liberty, it's Kilo https://review.openstack.org/242072 | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Searchlight Liberty is 0.1.0, not 0.1.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/242073 | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Fix murano-dashboard liberty releases https://review.openstack.org/242074 | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: CloudKitty 0.4.x is Kilo, not Liberty https://review.openstack.org/242080 | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Fix vmware-nsx liberty release https://review.openstack.org/242088 | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Reorder python-tripleoclient releases https://review.openstack.org/242089 | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Remove Kilo releases from Liberty https://review.openstack.org/242092 | 15:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: python-ceilometerclient 2.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/241222 | 15:19 |
| jroll | dhellmann: added constraints thing, sorry for missing that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240160/ | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | jroll : np, it's a new thing. I'll get to that release shortly. | 15:23 |
| jroll | thanks | 15:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: liberty: release python-novaclient 2.30.2 https://review.openstack.org/240256 | 15:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases: Remove projects without stable/liberty branch https://review.openstack.org/242098 | 15:29 |
| ttx | Used a script to catch a few others ^ | 15:30 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: yeah, maybe "other" is enough and we should just remove the type:service tag from those | 15:32 |
| dhellmann | ttx: yeah, let's see how far we can get that way. otherwise we'll have to keep track of new types and make sure they show up on the release list | 15:32 |
| ttx | dhellmann: ok, will push a governance change | 15:33 |
| dhellmann | ttx: what's our policy on dealing with liberty releases off of master at this point? if a project declares a release this week as intended for liberty, is that ok? | 15:33 |
| ttx | if the stable/liberty branch matches, sure | 15:35 |
| dhellmann | ttx: there's no stable branch yet, for aodh | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Release ironicclient 0.10.0 https://review.openstack.org/240160 | 15:38 |
| ttx | jroll: so I don't think ironic-inspector and ironic-python-agent should be listed as API services: if I understand correctly they are more like long-running agents, right ? | 15:39 |
| ttx | If you confirm I'll push a change to remove type:service tag from those two. | 15:39 |
| jroll | ttx: inspector is a service with an API, IPA is a (sometimes) long-running agent that has an API | 15:40 |
| jroll | (sometimes long-running), rather | 15:40 |
| ttx | jroll: but it's not a user-facing API, right ? | 15:40 |
| jroll | so it's complicated I guess | 15:40 |
| jroll | right | 15:40 |
| jroll | in theory :) | 15:40 |
| ttx | ok, probably falls in the "other" category then | 15:40 |
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| jroll | yeah, seems fine | 15:40 |
| ttx | thx | 15:41 |
| jroll | I didn't realize there was an "other" at the time | 15:41 |
| jroll | np | 15:41 |
| ttx | jroll: well, there wasn't. It's just fresh off the oven | 15:41 |
| jroll | heh, cool | 15:41 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I'm wondering if I should remove type:service from Astara as well... Do you think it belongs there ? | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | there's a long-running process but it doesn't have an API. If we mean type:service to just be things with REST APIs then it wouldn't apply. | 15:47 |
| ttx | I think it makes sense to limit it to user-facing things, not internal servies. I'm actually proposing that refinement to the tag definition since it's a bit unclear. | 15:49 |
| dhellmann | wfm | 15:49 |
| ttx | Basically I don't think Neutron agents (or rootwrap) should qualify, and by extensions other internal services or long-running processes should not qualify | 15:49 |
| ttx | that tag is now mainly used to display things at the top of a user-facing page anyway | 15:50 |
| dhellmann | makes sense | 15:50 |
| ttx | We should talk to adam_g about how to represent the Astara 7.0.0 release in openstack/releases. I'm not sure the repositories in projects.yaml represent what their deliverables acurately | 15:53 |
| ttx | (I think some of those could share the same deliverables) | 15:53 |
| ttx | (also the tag is very notably missing from openstack/akanda so I don't really expect that to be their main deliverable) | 15:54 |
| ttx | but might be best to wait until the repo is migrated | 15:54 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, I think I know what's what, but it's best to get them to describe those things. | 15:55 |
| ttx | (the openstack/akanda repo seems to be specs only??) | 15:56 |
| jroll | ttx: what's the definition of "user" in "user-facing things"? end users? for example ironic is generally deployed as admin only | 15:58 |
| jroll | something worth thinking about if you end up changing the docs for that tag | 15:59 |
| ttx | jroll: yeah there is a grey area there. The idea is that it should show the main service rather than services that are more implementation details. I think we can keep "user-facing" as a way to describe "enduser-facing and main admin-facing" | 16:02 |
| jroll | nod, that's my thought as well | 16:02 |
| ttx | basically I want ironic on that list, but not the ironic agents | 16:02 |
| ttx | I want neutron, but not the neutron agents/plugins or rootwrap daemon | 16:02 |
| ttx | even if technically you /can/ issue API calls to them :) | 16:03 |
| jroll | indeed :) | 16:05 |
| jroll | dhellmann: mind sanity checking what I have here before I hit the other ironic projects? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Jim+Rollenhagen+%253Cjim%2540jimrollenhagen.com%253E%22+topic:add-reno,n,z | 16:46 |
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| mordred | ttx, dhellmann: you want upper-constraints patch depends on release patch? or other way around? | 16:52 |
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| ttx | mordred: I think dhellmann wants it as a follow-up patch. I may be wrong though | 16:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/releases: Ignore .pyc files in .gitignore https://review.openstack.org/241595 | 16:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/releases: Release 1.10.0 of os-client-config https://review.openstack.org/241594 | 16:56 |
| mordred | ok. I think that's right now | 16:56 |
| jroll | mordred: that patch looks right, yes | 16:56 |
| jroll | constraints can't pass until the tag exists | 16:56 |
| mordred | yah | 16:57 |
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| dhellmann | jroll : looking now | 17:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Ignore .pyc files in .gitignore https://review.openstack.org/241595 | 17:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Release 1.10.0 of os-client-config https://review.openstack.org/241594 | 17:56 |
| dhellmann | jroll : mostly looks good, but it's missing the changes to tox.ini to enable the build | 18:03 |
| jroll | dhellmann: doh, will add that | 18:03 |
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| jroll | dhellmann: got sidetracked but that is now fixed, thanks | 19:03 |
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| mestery | Howdy dhellmann! Question for you on reno: Do you want a single yaml file for the liberty release with all notes there, or a per-feature/issue yaml file. That's the only thing not clear to me, so I thought I'd ask. | 20:28 |
| mestery | dhellmann: Nevermind, after re-reading, it's clearer to me you want per-patch yaml files, so I'll go that route. | 20:31 |
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| dhellmann | mestery : per patch is probably better, but if you can't get reno to put them in the right version we might want to just add notes to the bottom of the liberty.rst file by hand for those older releases | 21:07 |
| mestery | dhellmann: I think it's working ok, I'm adding them per-patch now, so lets see how this works. Thanks for hte help as always! | 21:08 |
| dhellmann | mestery : ack, let me know if you end up fighting with it, I don't want to make things hard on anyone :-) | 21:08 |
| mestery | dhellmann: Will do! | 21:09 |
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| mestery | dhellmann: My crack at moving our release notes to reno yaml files is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242223/ | 21:25 |
| mestery | Not urgent to review now, lets let some neutron people paint that shed for a bit, but review when you have time :) | 21:25 |
| dhellmann | mestery : did you like the output, with the preludes combined? | 21:26 |
| mestery | Pretty fancy :) | 21:26 |
| dhellmann | ok, I wasn't sure if that was your intent or if it would be a surprise | 21:26 |
| dhellmann | mestery : one quirk is those notes will only show up in the unreleased liberty version of neutron, and not the original release :-/ | 21:28 |
| mestery | dhellmann: I think the output looks pretty nice, things are intertwined a bit, but it reads ok to me. | 21:30 |
| mestery | Lets see what others say. | 21:30 |
| dhellmann | mestery : are the version number headings in the output right? | 21:35 |
| mestery | This is what I see: 7.0.0-69 | 21:35 |
| mestery | So it looks reasonable to me | 21:35 |
| dhellmann | right, so when you tag 7.0.1 those notes will appear there, rather than 7.0.0 | 21:36 |
| mestery | Cool, I think that's about right then. | 21:36 |
| dhellmann | k | 21:36 |
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