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gmann | Zer0Byte__: may be murano team can debug in case of existing bug or race. | 00:00 |
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Zer0Byte__ | ok gmann question | 00:01 |
Zer0Byte__ | where is the page for jenkins status? | 00:01 |
gmann | i have no idea about murano | 00:01 |
gmann | Zer0Byte__: you can check here -http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 00:01 |
Zer0Byte__ | thanks gmann | 00:01 |
gmann | np! | 00:01 |
dharinic | mtreinish, gmann : Since we are introducing changes in image visibility, 'private' visibility will not mean "non-public" visibility anymore. Instead we have "shared" visibility for images with members. This will obviously have an API impact which is recognized by Glance in the spec. | 00:03 |
dharinic | for reference: https://github.com/openstack/glance-specs/blob/master/specs/newton/approved/glance/community_visibility.rst | 00:03 |
mtreinish | Zer0Byte__: to me that error looks like a poorly written functional test. Just a guess (I haven't actually looked at the code) but it looks like it's comparing timestamps and if there is anything that causes a slow down that can cause intermittent failures | 00:03 |
dharinic | This in specific that talks about the change in default visibility: https://github.com/openstack/glance-specs/blob/master/specs/newton/approved/glance/community_visibility.rst#default-visibility | 00:04 |
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mtreinish | dharinic: so it's recognized, but that doesn't mean it's not breaking the existing api semantics. You need to have a backwards compatible api you can't just change that on users | 00:05 |
stevelle | mtreinish: can you describe the semantics which are broken? | 00:05 |
stevelle | if we start from there, perhaps we can make progress on how to proceed | 00:05 |
dharinic | The link i just pasted describes how it will not be backward incompatible | 00:06 |
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mtreinish | because you're ignoring the case where private is explicitly being used. Which is what tempest is doing. | 00:07 |
stevelle | mtreinish: it is not ignored. | 00:07 |
mtreinish | regardless of whether you think that's correct or not, that's something end users can do today. Add members to a private image | 00:07 |
mtreinish | stevelle: then how does that work after the implementation of the spec? | 00:08 |
mtreinish | because if it did tempest wouldn't be failing on your patch, and we wouldn't be talking about this | 00:09 |
stevelle | ignored is loaded language | 00:09 |
stevelle | a choice was made to change behavior around 'private' visibility by breaking it into two distinct visibility settings: shared and private. | 00:10 |
mtreinish | stevelle: and I'm saying tempest is correctly blocking you from implementing that because it violates api change guidelines and breaks your api contract with users | 00:11 |
mtreinish | I agree it's a good thing to do, but you can't change the past. The api isn't tied to your released code | 00:11 |
gmann | second point in this says about that -https://github.com/openstack/glance-specs/blob/master/specs/newton/approved/glance/community_visibility.rst#default-visibility | 00:11 |
mtreinish | it goes both directions | 00:11 |
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stevelle | gmann: that is why I'm arguing for tempest tests to use default visibility, since visibility is a policy-restricted option and images default to non-public | 00:12 |
mtreinish | stevelle: you need some way to signal users the behavior changed, and make the default work the same (which is what microversions provides a framework to projects) | 00:12 |
mtreinish | stevelle: and I think that's probably a fair change to discuss independently, but it's decoupled from the change in question which you pushed to unblock the bp | 00:13 |
stevelle | mtreinish: I'm here to ask for a way to proceed | 00:14 |
stevelle | I don't want to debate | 00:14 |
gmann | stevelle: i agree without specifying the visibility it is ok but by specifying the visibility as private is something it breaks | 00:16 |
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stevelle | that the breaking test around shared images was just recently merged in tempest, without any review by anyone in the glance community, and in direct conflict with a newton spec carried over to ocata, is leaving us with hands tied | 00:17 |
dharinic | gmann: If the default visibility is not changed to shared and a n image has private visbility, creating a member will fail. thats what happened with the one tempest test that was failing. This BP porposes to change the default visibility to shared. and in that case, private images can add members | 00:18 |
gmann | dharinic: i agree but before it was allowed to add member with explicit visibility as private | 00:19 |
stevelle | I have to beg the question of why, thouh | 00:19 |
stevelle | that was an arbitrary choice | 00:20 |
gmann | stevelle: i think they were as per the current behavior even that is wrong API usage which we left to allowed in API | 00:20 |
dharinic | even now it will be allowed gmann. That is why we changing the default to "shared" and that is why the tempest test should also pick up that new default | 00:21 |
gmann | dharinic: with default i got it but with specifying private visibility explicitly | 00:22 |
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gmann | what the test does right now | 00:22 |
stevelle | gmann: sorry, trying to still understand your last reply to me | 00:22 |
stevelle | can you rephrase? | 00:22 |
dharinic | gmann: visibility value of private will actually mean "private" instead of "private or shared" | 00:24 |
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gmann | stevelle: i meant the tests got added in tempest about image visibility behavior was as per current API behavior so tests were not wrong | 00:24 |
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gmann | dharinic: yea but we cannot add member in that without changing it to shared | 00:25 |
stevelle | gmann: understanding both the glance v1 and v2 apis, specifying visibility=private was always testing the wrong thing. in v1 the field would be is_public, and as noted in the spec that is policy limited to admins | 00:27 |
stevelle | gmann: I don't expect that to matter to you in this context, but this matters to the actual users of glance | 00:27 |
stevelle | they do not provide a visibility param when creating images unless they are admins creating public images | 00:27 |
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stevelle | gmann: even if adding a member to a private image was allowed, the distinction between a shared and private image post-spec says the test as written will still fail because a private image with a member added will still not be visible to the alt user | 00:29 |
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stevelle | gmann: is there any way you can conceive of altering the introduced test so we can model the right things? creating an image with default visibility for the shared images test faces the same logical API change objection but I'm open to any ideas | 00:30 |
gmann | stevelle: alt user should be able to see that like in - test_list_images_param_member_status L351 | 00:32 |
stevelle | gmann: private images will, after the introduction of shared status, not be visible to other members. the alternative would be a security issue | 00:33 |
stevelle | so the test, as written, is actually impossible to pass | 00:33 |
gmann | stevelle: i am not denying about changes and security issue but we should not change the current behavior also | 00:36 |
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gmann | i feel it should be with old behavior in v2 and can be done with micorversion mechanism | 00:37 |
stevelle | gmann: how, when the current tests don't distinguish glance microversion? | 00:38 |
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gmann | stevelle: yea current test will run for v2 as it is and should pass | 00:39 |
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gmann | for microversion we run diff set of tests with new behavior verification | 00:40 |
stevelle | gmann: we already have microversions for glance, have for years, and are not at v2.0 -- we just don't have it implemented exactly like nova, and the solution predates api-wg existing | 00:40 |
gmann | stevelle: that should be fine from tests pov, we can have separate tests with call with microversion | 00:41 |
stevelle | if we can add the correct microversion support to the current test, and write a new test for the following microversion that would be going the right direction but I feel like at this point even that might get rejected and we are losing time in ocata | 00:41 |
gmann | stevelle: so this change also will go with microversion ? | 00:42 |
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gmann | stevelle: yes but that will be right direction at least to make sure all backward comp or interop changes | 00:43 |
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stevelle | gmann: We will try to talk through the options tomorrow at the glance meeting. We might settle on trying to submit microversion specific code for this, but since none of the images tests do that now, I'm not sure how much heavy lifting that would be and we are light on contributors. | 00:46 |
stevelle | microversion specific ^test code | 00:47 |
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gmann | stevelle: ok, i think microversion tests should not be hard. I am off from tomorrow and ll back on 6th jan. I can help if that is not too late | 00:49 |
gmann | stevelle: but i am confuse that if that change is with microversion then it preserve the old behavior right and no backward incompatibility issue ? | 00:50 |
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stevelle | gmann: that is absolutely too late, but I appreciate your taking the time to think through it and comment, also to mtreinish | 00:50 |
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stevelle | gmann: the problem is purely that the current Tempest tests don't lock the microversion | 00:51 |
stevelle | in that case | 00:51 |
gmann | stevelle: i see | 00:51 |
gmann | stevelle: lock you mean is there anything extra header etc to add ? should not v2 call will be default to base microversion? | 00:52 |
gmann | sorry i do not know the microversion way glance did | 00:52 |
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stevelle | glance defaults to latest, not base | 00:53 |
gmann | but anyways, if that change going with microversion and old microversion preserve the old behavior then it should not be issue and tempest can consume the microversion bits in tests | 00:53 |
gmann | stevelle: ahh | 00:54 |
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stevelle | it hasn't been a problem to default to latest, to date. | 00:54 |
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gmann | stevelle: and user to lock the version if they do not want to consume new version changes | 00:55 |
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stevelle | gmann: that was the model as I understand | 00:56 |
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gmann | stevelle: yea, i also do not think any issue in that - either ask user to bump version (like nova) or lock version to consuming the version changes | 00:57 |
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gmann | stevelle: i think we just need to adopt that in tempest tests and should not be very hard. if that locking is with some header etc | 00:58 |
stevelle | yes, header | 00:58 |
gmann | stevelle: ok, so it should eb like this- 1. run all existing tests with base microversion(lock the version with base version) | 01:00 |
gmann | 2. keep adding microversion specific tests which glance thinks worth to do. | 01:01 |
gmann | same way we do on nova tests. so that we keep verifying the base version works perfectly without any backward comp issue | 01:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tempest: Define v3 domains_client as library https://review.openstack.org/366554 | 01:02 |
gmann | and microversion changes also can be tested with their behvaior/interface changes | 01:02 |
stevelle | gmann: just to share, this was the mailing list thread around this api change: [openstack-dev] [Glance] [api] Community Images Impasse | 01:02 |
stevelle | just dug it out. | 01:02 |
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gmann | stevelle: thanks, ll check that | 01:03 |
stevelle | we're basically beyond that point now, but that the supporting argument that the current tests are evaluating the wrong thing | 01:04 |
stevelle | and that led to the final amendment to the spec you scanned through | 01:05 |
gmann | ok | 01:05 |
gmann | stevelle: i agree and its always worth to improve the API but with version mechanism. | 01:06 |
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gmann | only thing here is time to adopt microversion framework in tempest | 01:07 |
gmann | I can try to do that during vacation if getting time but cannot commit to that | 01:08 |
stevelle | that should be as simple as grabbing the cls.client* and pushing the glance microversion header as of Newton in, I assume | 01:08 |
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stevelle | then on future tests letting that be explicitly set to later versions as needed | 01:08 |
stevelle | hmm, actually would be more complex than that I suspect | 01:09 |
stevelle | given our implementation | 01:09 |
gmann | stevelle: all existing tests with base microversion not as of Newton but we can keep that a configurable options adn devstack keep bumping that on each release if all tests ok | 01:11 |
stevelle | ok, that's totally not going to work smoothly | 01:11 |
gmann | microversion framework is all there ion tempest we just need to see if that can be consumed for glance tests also. only thing i can see is we need to reverse the min and max version | 01:12 |
stevelle | but that is the nova microversion framework | 01:12 |
gmann | stevelle: not just nova its all, cinder ironic use that | 01:12 |
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stevelle | glance didn't wait for nova to settle to introduce theirs | 01:13 |
gmann | we have like - based on range of tests microversion and configured microversions, tests will run with specific microversion | 01:13 |
stevelle | internally there seems to be some other rough spots that are different, and the fact that new tests were added to Tempest images coverage already suggests that we are probably already testing features which are not available in base 2.0 | 01:14 |
stevelle | I'll leave that to another moment. | 01:15 |
gmann | stevelle: well that should be separated with microversion then | 01:15 |
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stevelle | just a question of how much yak shaving we have to do to get the existing tests to behave with differing mvs, given where we are now | 01:17 |
stevelle | it possibly becomes a non-starter right there | 01:17 |
stevelle | Jan 23 is coming fast when we have other whole features blocked on this | 01:18 |
stevelle | code complete but review shouldn't be rushed | 01:19 |
gmann | actually its worth and right way to do and should not take time, if glance has good doc for microversion mechanism and changes of all microversions | 01:19 |
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gmann | any link where glance maintain such info | 01:20 |
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stevelle | Not that I can pinpoint | 01:20 |
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stevelle | changes otherwise should be additive, in actuality, but I don't know where to document those additions singly. It should all be captured in specs and lite-specs but it might require heavy review to collect from there. | 01:21 |
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stevelle | all the other api changes which are not additive would be changes in error status codes allowed by api-wg) | 01:22 |
gmann | i see | 01:23 |
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gmann | stevelle: in case you are around, what i understood from glance API version is, it keep adding minor version like /v2.1, /v2.4 etc | 02:21 |
gmann | stevelle: and user can put those in request and glance will redirect it to v2 code base | 02:21 |
gmann | stevelle: where glance does not differentiate the behavior changes/code base based on minor version | 02:22 |
gmann | with that, all minor version should be backward compatible right? | 02:23 |
stevelle | gmann: and they have been, as I suggested, with the changes being additions and response code refinements | 02:23 |
gmann | stevelle: humm, what is header name user can lock minor version ? | 02:24 |
stevelle | it would be a url var | 02:24 |
stevelle | we would have to tweak our community images implementation to split based on minor version | 02:24 |
gmann | stevelle: but if u request with /v2 it would run on latest changes done in v2.4 | 02:24 |
gmann | stevelle: so i did not get how user can lock the version and get the old behavior | 02:25 |
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stevelle | old behavior was deemed compatible | 02:25 |
gmann | or to protect them self from backward incompatible changes | 02:25 |
gmann | i was checking this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324012/4 | 02:26 |
stevelle | there is limited support individual resources having variant formats, each resource gets a content-type header that can be versioned. that was done with 2.0 and 2.1 in some cases | 02:26 |
gmann | where 2.4 version keep returning 409 and this will be same if user request /v2 | 02:27 |
stevelle | we don't want to have to continue that | 02:27 |
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stevelle | the current OpenStack understanding and expectations around api microversion and compatibility don't map directly to historical Glance behavior and we did not prioritize a shift to the shard understanding in this cycle. | 02:33 |
stevelle | shared* | 02:33 |
stevelle | we have other work selected, some of which was prioritized wrt defcore and operator demand | 02:34 |
gmann | stevelle: i see, its been since 4 year around where v2.0 got into current state | 02:34 |
stevelle | the bp for community images goes back 2 years or more iirc | 02:35 |
gmann | stevelle: so for me it seems backward compatibility should be honor by glance in either mechanism whether by minor version with all compatible way and major version when any backward incompatible changes | 02:35 |
gmann | if we do incompatible changes in minor version then user does not have choice to avoid such changes | 02:36 |
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stevelle | gmann: the problem is that nobody, but nobody, uses visibility=private expicitly | 02:38 |
gmann | stevelle: but we never knows who use :) | 02:39 |
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stevelle | we are talking about a boundary condition rather than a use case, and that boundary was deemed to produce undesirable impacts | 02:39 |
gmann | stevelle: if tempest use it means it can be used and anyone someone might be using | 02:39 |
stevelle | I'm sure we'll find an operator impacted at a summit in Q or R cycle who would be mad, validating your concern. | 02:40 |
stevelle | because it will take that long for Ocata to be in use | 02:40 |
stevelle | I'm working on documenting things so the Glance community can choose which evil to embrace here. | 02:40 |
stevelle | there are NO good options. | 02:40 |
gmann | but till that time they might be broken as this is backward incompatible change | 02:41 |
stevelle | the current api is bad, missing ocata release is another bad, maintaining a backwards compat that Tempest folks like is another form of bad. | 02:41 |
gmann | yea i agree with your point but it should other way around. check with operator if that can be desirable change and nobody is impacted and then introduced changes based on feedback | 02:41 |
stevelle | we have feedback, over 2 years | 02:42 |
stevelle | as I said, I'm gonna work on documenting things for tomorrow's meeting (11 hours away) | 02:43 |
stevelle | we have maybe 2 weeks to figure this out or we will lose a major feature in ocata | 02:43 |
stevelle | even then we might | 02:43 |
gmann | stevelle: ok, i think that feedback from operator and meeting decision will be helpful in tempest patch | 02:44 |
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stevelle | gmann: I did abandon that patch because I can see that it was too large an impact, as suggested. | 02:44 |
gmann | stevelle: but as of now tempest have to block backward incompatible changes till it is all agreed with all stack holders | 02:44 |
stevelle | I will leave it open to perhaps choose a more pointed fix. | 02:45 |
stevelle | but that will be one of a few options I will offer | 02:45 |
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gmann | stevelle: ok | 02:45 |
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gmann | stevelle: i just added comment in patch also | 02:54 |
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stevelle | gmann: thanks | 02:58 |
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stevelle | gmann: and yes, you bring up the problem with a default-latest strategy on the api version resolution and glance just never bothered to implement a backwards-locked implementation | 03:23 |
stevelle | wedging something in now is an option. and repeating myself, there are NO good options. | 03:24 |
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gmann | andreaf: ^^ more cleanup for identity clients. | 07:23 |
gmann | andreaf: for token client we might need to trick partial_class little bit | 07:23 |
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andreaf | gmann: uhm yeah I remember token client is a strange beast - I thought I sorted out that at some point but I may be wrong | 10:26 |
andreaf | gmann: the clients are getting really close to being all stable now - yay | 10:26 |
openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack/tempest: Test live migration back and forth https://review.openstack.org/379638 | 10:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Pawel Koniszewski proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Set LIVE_MIGRATE_BACK_AND_FORTH to True in LM+grenade job https://review.openstack.org/382456 | 10:31 |
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andreaf | gmann: heh so the Token client now accepts kwargs, and it won't complain if extra args are passed, but still the initial mandatory parameters are incompatible: rest client wants auth_provider, service and region, where token client expects an auth_url | 10:53 |
andreaf | so tempest.lib exposes the identity client as a whole now but the token one isn't really usable via the clients class (only directly) which is something we need to fix rather soon | 10:54 |
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andreaf | gmann: welll thinking about it, auth_provider service and region will just be ignored as long as auth_url is provided as a kwarg I think | 11:09 |
andreaf | I'll give that a try | 11:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add a note for br_ironic_vxlan tunnel https://review.openstack.org/379447 | 11:34 |
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sdague | dims: just looked at it, if you fix Andreas's issues, should be fine | 11:37 |
dims | thanks sdague | 11:38 |
dims | glad to have him look at it. it's practically voodoo to me :) | 11:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Isaac Beckman proposed openstack/tempest: add cleanup to volume created from image https://review.openstack.org/414063 | 11:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Isaac Beckman proposed openstack/tempest: add cleanup to volume created from image https://review.openstack.org/414063 | 11:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrea Frittoli proposed openstack/tempest: Use Token Clients from the client factory https://review.openstack.org/414067 | 12:03 |
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stevemar | dims: dtroyer sc68cal please see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400171/ when you have a minute | 12:13 |
stevemar | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394895/ :) | 12:13 |
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dims | stevemar : +1 to both | 12:20 |
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chandankumar | jpena: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/3934/ | 14:14 |
openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Add an explicit test-config phase to devstack plugins https://review.openstack.org/414162 | 14:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Switch to python 3.5 https://review.openstack.org/414176 | 14:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrea Frittoli proposed openstack/tempest: Use Token Clients from the client factory https://review.openstack.org/414067 | 14:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrea Frittoli proposed openstack/tempest: Just a test class to play with resources https://review.openstack.org/414183 | 14:48 |
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dims | sdague : dhellmann : dtroyer : stevemar : The new "gate-devstack-dsvm-py35-updown-ubuntu-xenial-nv" job is green in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414176/ (see http://logs.openstack.org/76/414176/1/check/gate-devstack-dsvm-updown-ubuntu-xenial/e708606/console.html) | 15:14 |
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sdague | dims: nice! | 15:14 |
dims | browsing logs one sec | 15:15 |
sdague | dims: is it not possible to set something so that when these packages are installed the put it into python3 paths - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414176/1/lib/nova ? | 15:16 |
dims | sdague : hmm, probably not there yet. USE_PYTHON3 did not kick in | 15:16 |
sdague | something in pbr is setting explicit python python during install | 15:16 |
sdague | http://paste.openstack.org/show/593161/ | 15:17 |
sdague | I wonder if we can get that to be python3 directly so that we don't need all those extra lines | 15:17 |
dims | right | 15:17 |
dims | but before that... i had use_python3=true in devstack-gate.yaml, did not kick in apparently - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413775/5/jenkins/jobs/devstack-gate.yaml | 15:18 |
sdague | dims: well the export here only gets as far as d-g - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413775/5/jenkins/jobs/devstack-gate.yaml | 15:19 |
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dims | sdague : so i need to do that in DEVSTACK_LOCAL_CONFIG? | 15:19 |
sdague | or make d-g understand USE_PYTHON3 and pass that through to devstack | 15:19 |
sdague | which... might be useful | 15:19 |
dims | ack. let me see about that | 15:20 |
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openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack-dev/grenade: Fix grenade runs which don't use tempest https://review.openstack.org/413738 | 15:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: pass-through USE_PYTHON3 to devstack https://review.openstack.org/414196 | 15:32 |
dims | sdague : that good? ^ | 15:32 |
sdague | dims: yeh, I think so | 15:34 |
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dims | ugh, i have lower case "true" in the ci job definition | 15:37 |
dims | looks like best practice is True/False with the first char upper case | 15:37 |
dims | fixing project-config | 15:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Andrea Frittoli proposed openstack/tempest: Use Token Clients from the client factory https://review.openstack.org/414067 | 16:49 |
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jordanP | meeting ? | 17:00 |
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jlvillal | Hi Tempest reviewers. Would like to get reviews on: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406999/ | 18:12 |
jlvillal | The Ironic team is trying to get tempest "smoke" to pass for Ironic using multi-tenant networking. | 18:12 |
jlvillal | We would like to get ^^^ merged to get that done :) | 18:13 |
andreaf | jlvillal: added to my review list | 18:14 |
jlvillal | andreaf: Thanks! | 18:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-dev/devstack: Switch to python 3.5 https://review.openstack.org/414176 | 19:24 |
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mtreinish | jordanP, andreaf: oops, sry forgot there was a meeting today | 19:26 |
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dmellado | jlvillal: I'll take a look at that on my way to the train xD | 19:43 |
jlvillal | dmellado: Thank you :) | 19:43 |
dmellado | andreaf: oomichi mtreinish rodrigods afazekas jlvillal gmann masayukig et al | 19:43 |
dmellado | have a great holidays y'all | 19:43 |
mtreinish | dmellado: yep, you too | 19:45 |
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sc68cal | sdague: hey, looks like neutron's grenade job is messing up the gate - http://logs.openstack.org/10/412510/1/gate/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-ubuntu-xenial/74398ad/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2016-12-22_18_47_54_817 | 19:53 |
sdague | sc68cal: the grenade job should be running on trusty | 19:55 |
sdague | sc68cal: where was that run? | 19:56 |
sdague | sc68cal: yeh, someone screwed up zuul configs | 19:57 |
sc68cal | sdague: I was just looking at http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ - the top most patch | 19:57 |
sc68cal | https://review.openstack.org/412510 | 19:57 |
sc68cal | there's a grenade dsvm trusty and a grenade dsvm xenial that ran on that patch | 19:58 |
openstackgerrit | Steve Lewis (stevelle) proposed openstack/tempest: Shared images test create with default visibility https://review.openstack.org/414261 | 19:58 |
sdague | Id555b43a29c7f5be8267cd993e9fdb644cfa3ac1 | 19:58 |
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sdague | sc68cal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414319 is the work around | 20:01 |
sdague | I'm about to drop off for the year | 20:01 |
sc68cal | sdague: ok, thanks for checking | 20:01 |
sc68cal | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414319/1 | 20:04 |
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sc68cal | sdague: see you in 2017 | 20:05 |
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dims | sdague : have a good vacation! | 20:10 |
dims | sc68cal : have some time to help me with a neutron problem (py35 updown test) - http://logs.openstack.org/76/414176/6/check/gate-devstack-dsvm-py35-updown-ubuntu-xenial-nv/e100b7f/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-12-22_19_44_58_216 | 20:11 |
openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/tempest: DO NOT MERGE https://review.openstack.org/414322 | 20:11 |
sc68cal | dims: sure | 20:12 |
dims | sc68cal : thanks! | 20:12 |
sc68cal | dims: looks like openvswitch didn't start? | 20:15 |
sc68cal | dims: http://logs.openstack.org/76/414176/6/check/gate-devstack-dsvm-py35-updown-ubuntu-xenial-nv/e100b7f/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-12-22_19_35_46_965 ? | 20:15 |
sc68cal | dims: either that or http://logs.openstack.org/76/414176/6/check/gate-devstack-dsvm-py35-updown-ubuntu-xenial-nv/e100b7f/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-12-22_19_35_47_206 | 20:16 |
sc68cal | dims: weird though - http://logs.openstack.org/76/414176/6/check/gate-devstack-dsvm-py35-updown-ubuntu-xenial-nv/e100b7f/logs/openvswitch/ | 20:17 |
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dims | sc68cal : where does one tell ovs to listen at port 6640? | 20:24 |
dims | sc68cal : "ovs-vsctl set-manager ...."? | 20:24 |
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sc68cal | dims: I'm not quite sure | 20:27 |
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dims | ack. will recheck to see if something changes. then ping folks on neutron channel | 20:27 |
dims | thanks sc68cal | 20:27 |
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sc68cal | dims: I think it's controlled by a configuration file or something, I'd have to hop on a box where I have vswitchd running to remember | 20:28 |
sc68cal | dims: actually it might be the ovsdb-server process | 20:30 |
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sc68cal | I think that's what's supposed to listen on port 6640 | 20:30 |
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dims | gotcha | 20:35 |
sc68cal | dims: I think I figured it out | 20:35 |
sc68cal | dims: here's a run where it worked | 20:36 |
sc68cal | dims: http://logs.openstack.org/85/406285/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/f6e424c/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-12-15_16_52_08_607 | 20:36 |
sc68cal | dims: here's your run - http://logs.openstack.org/76/414176/6/check/gate-devstack-dsvm-py35-updown-ubuntu-xenial-nv/e100b7f/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2016-12-22_19_44_56_941 | 20:36 |
sc68cal | dims: configparser.DuplicateOptionError: While reading from \'/etc/neutron/rootwrap.d/privsep.filters\' [line 32]: option \'privsep\' in section \'Filters\' already exists\n' | 20:37 |
sc68cal | and that makes rootwrap explode | 20:37 |
dims | aha | 20:37 |
dims | and the oslo.privsep merged yesterday? | 20:37 |
sc68cal | yeah looks like it | 20:39 |
sc68cal | dims: I'll file a bug in neutron and cc you | 20:41 |
dims | is this ovs the default? | 20:41 |
dims | wondering why no one else is seeing it yet | 20:41 |
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sc68cal | dims: the privsep config file landed yesterday | 20:43 |
sc68cal | dims: it merged at 7am EST | 20:45 |
sc68cal | dims: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394741/ | 20:45 |
dims | ack. trying to repro | 20:46 |
dims | could be just a python35 problem with configparser sc68cal | 20:47 |
sc68cal | dims: possibly | 20:47 |
sc68cal | dims: " | 20:49 |
sc68cal | Changed in version 3.2: In previous versions of configparser behaviour matched strict=False. | 20:49 |
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sc68cal | dims: so, I don't think it's configparser | 20:50 |
sc68cal | dims: since > 3.2 strict=True is the default | 20:51 |
sc68cal | that privsep file is new as of today, and that's making things barf | 20:51 |
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dims | ++ sc68cal | 20:52 |
dims | will have to fix in oslo | 20:52 |
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sc68cal | dims: okie dokies | 20:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Jordan Pittier proposed openstack/tempest: Port object_storage tests to Py3. https://review.openstack.org/413739 | 21:23 |
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openstack | bug 1635643 in Cinder "test_volume_backup_create_get_detailed_list_restore_delete failed with "iscsiadm: Could not execute operation on all records: encountered iSCSI database failure" in c-bak log" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1635643 | 21:27 |
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jlvillal | mtreinish: Thanks for the review on the tempest patch. | 22:15 |
jlvillal | mtreinish: So 'shared_physical_network' only seems to be used by Ironic. http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=shared_physical_network&i=nope&files=&repos= | 22:15 |
jlvillal | mtreinish: And 'create_isolated_networks' = False only seems used by Ironic & Manila. http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=create_isolated_networks&i=nope&files=&repos= | 22:16 |
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jlvillal | mtreinish: I guess I would like one option because they seem to conflict with each other. Or I'm not quite understanding their roles correctly. | 22:17 |
jlvillal | I'm assuming that can not set 'shared_physical_network'=True and 'create_isolated_networks'=True at the same time. That it would conflict. | 22:18 |
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mtreinish | jlvillal: that's what ironic does I expect. The dynamic creds logic understands shared_physical_network (or I assume it does, that change landed when I was out) | 22:20 |
mtreinish | and create_isolated_networks defaults to true | 22:20 |
mtreinish | oh, I should read the backlog fully, ironic does set that to false explicitly :) | 22:20 |
mtreinish | but, I'm not really worried about the ci case. I'm thinking more for the user outside of the gate | 22:21 |
jlvillal | Yeah. I guess I don't like how they can conflict with each other. Well that we don't have checks to prevent that. | 22:21 |
mtreinish | I'm afraid of conflating the definitions of those 2 options. Because create_isolated_network means a very specific thing. (literally just as part of dynamic creds) | 22:21 |
jlvillal | And if we could just have it be one option, that would be nicer. In my opinion. | 22:21 |
jlvillal | mtreinish: yeah, I wonder if we saw the 'create_isolated_networks' and said that's the place to use it. without paying attention to the fact it is in 'auth'. | 22:23 |
mtreinish | jlvillal: https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/common/credentials_factory.py#L90-L91 is the only place create_isolated_networks is used | 22:23 |
jlvillal | And http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tempest/tree/tempest/cmd/account_generator.py I think | 22:24 |
jlvillal | mtreinish: Used to decide if networks are created | 22:24 |
mtreinish | jlvillal: so the issue is if you don't use dynamic creds, that's why the shared_physical_network opt is there | 22:24 |
mtreinish | jlvillal: ok, sure. That's just a cli util that calls dynamic creds :) | 22:24 |
jlvillal | Ah | 22:24 |
jlvillal | mtreinish: Okay. So I'm still somewhat confused on this. Can these two options conflict at all? | 22:25 |
jlvillal | Is 'shared_physical_network'=True and 'create_isolated_networks'=True at the same time valid? | 22:26 |
mtreinish | jlvillal: if you set both to true, shared_physical_network overrides create_isolated_networks and no networks are created | 22:26 |
mtreinish | see the credentials_factory link | 22:26 |
jlvillal | mtreinish: Right, so they do conflict. Just the code works around the conflict rather than raising an error. Would that be correct? | 22:27 |
mtreinish | the difference between those 2 opts is telling tempest what it should (the create_isolated_networks) and what it can do (shared_physical_network) | 22:28 |
mtreinish | jlvillal: sure, you could call it that | 22:28 |
mtreinish | jlvillal: we could just raise there too, I'm not sure why we didn't tbh | 22:28 |
jlvillal | mtreinish: Okay. What if I updated the config help text to say that these two options have an interaction with each other? | 22:29 |
jlvillal | As a new patch. | 22:29 |
jlvillal | And maybe add a raise? | 22:29 |
jlvillal | Any value with that? | 22:29 |
mtreinish | yeah, probably. I think that'll make it more explicit to people | 22:29 |
jlvillal | mtreinish: Okay. I'll work something up. Thanks. | 22:30 |
mtreinish | probably worth throwing a note in the configuration doc too | 22:30 |
jlvillal | Okay | 22:30 |
* mtreinish wonders if that will break anyone out ther | 22:30 | |
jlvillal | mtreinish: I doubt it, since only Ironic uses one of the options. And only Ironic and Manila use the other. Unsure about external users though... | 22:31 |
mtreinish | yeah, I was thinking about external users | 22:33 |
mtreinish | when I was talking to jroll about the ironic plugin decomposition I think we asked armax if the shared_physical_network option had a use case outside of ironic | 22:33 |
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mtreinish | but that's going back a couple months | 22:34 |
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jlvillal | mtreinish: Maybe I will skip the raise error part | 22:35 |
jlvillal | Regarding docs. I see: However, there is an option ``create_isolated_networks`` | 22:36 |
jlvillal | Is there a preferred way to say: However, there is an option ``[auth]/create_isolated_networks`` | 22:36 |
jlvillal | Basically to show it is in the 'auth' group | 22:36 |
jlvillal | Or prefer not to specify the config group | 22:37 |
mtreinish | I normally just 'in the auth group' I think | 22:37 |
mtreinish | but I'm not picky on your word choice there :) | 22:38 |
mtreinish | we can always update docs to make it clearer | 22:38 |
jlvillal | mtreinish: Thanks | 22:38 |
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