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| andreaf | mkoderer, afazekas, masayukig: this is ready if you have time to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317105/ - it's passing all experimental test-accounts jobs as well | 10:09 |
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| sc68cal | mriedem: gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-full - the tl;dr is that it configures Neutron with DVR enabled, then runs all the tempest tests | 14:46 |
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| sc68cal | mriedem: I think i'd be hesitant to disable it on stable/liberty | 14:47 |
| mriedem | sc68cal: ok, the change hasn't merged yet https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324107/ | 14:48 |
| mriedem | so the alternative is going to be a stable/liberty change to devstack to not run live migration in tempest | 14:49 |
| mriedem | hacky as that is | 14:49 |
| sc68cal | Gotcha. the concern i have is just that we use multinode to test DVR (or at least we should.) perhaps we should loop in armax | 14:50 |
| sdague | mriedem: honestly, we just need to push on infra on that change | 14:50 |
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| mriedem | sdague: i just did | 14:51 |
| mriedem | sdague: but liberty will still be busted | 14:51 |
| sdague | but we can change project-config then | 14:51 |
| mriedem | sdague: i had proposed a change to not run the multinode jobs on stable/liberty, but that's pretty severe since it excludes testing neutron + dvr in liberty - although i'm pretty sure that's on the experimental queue | 14:52 |
| mriedem | sc68cal: do you know if that job even works in liberty? | 14:52 |
| sdague | there is no way that works in liberty | 14:52 |
| sdague | well... not no way | 14:52 |
| sdague | but I really remember having conversations with folks in tokyo about it | 14:52 |
| mriedem | sc68cal: nvm, it's in check queue in liberty | 14:53 |
| mriedem | but not gate | 14:53 |
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| mriedem | and non-voting | 14:53 |
| sc68cal | hmm. guess DVR still has issues. | 14:53 |
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| sdague | in liberty, I just can't imagine this works | 14:53 |
| sc68cal | ok. maybe we can interrogate carl_baldwin | 14:54 |
| sdague | mriedem: we could also just backport the nova change to liberty | 14:55 |
| sdague | it's pretty low risk | 14:55 |
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| sdague | and means that you'd know if live migration gets completely broken by a backport | 14:55 |
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| mriedem | yeah we could do that too, i figured people would just be against it for the security mode only thing | 14:56 |
| sdague | meh | 14:56 |
| sc68cal | ok, let me wait for eavesdrop.o.o to dump the convo so we can get carl_baldwin sync'd | 14:56 |
| mriedem | sdague: ok i'll propose the backport to liberty | 14:56 |
| sdague | let's figure out if we're going to get a d-g patch land soon though, because the liberty backport will block it merging until that is also merged | 14:56 |
| mriedem | sc68cal: if we're going to backport the nova fix then we don't need to disable the jobs | 14:57 |
| mriedem | sdague: ok | 14:57 |
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| sc68cal | c'mon dump your log | 14:58 |
| sc68cal | carl_baldwin: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-qa/%23openstack-qa.2016-06-03.log.html | 15:00 |
| sc68cal | scroll to bottom | 15:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | I think my first choice would be to backport the change to Liberty. But, I understand the policy. | 15:07 |
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| carl_baldwin | But, with that aside. The multi-node job was never really useful to us on Liberty, I don't think. It has only become close to stable since Mitaka. So, I'm not sure we'd ever miss it in Liberty. | 15:08 |
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| sdague | yeh, it felt like in liberty it was probably too early to really care | 15:09 |
| sdague | we're still waiting on an infra approve of the devstack-gate cleanup | 15:09 |
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| sdague | ok, clarkb just approved it | 15:11 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320925/ is in the gate now, so once it lands, lets go and do the liberty backport | 15:11 |
| sc68cal | carl_baldwin: gotcha, so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324107/ should get merged? | 15:13 |
| carl_baldwin | sc68cal: I wouldn't mind if it were merged. IMO, we won't be missing anything. | 15:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | But, if the Nova patch is backported, it might actually test that one thing. | 15:19 |
| sdague | yeh, I think we're leaning on nova backport | 15:21 |
| sdague | just going to wait to propose it until the d-g code is merged so it doesn't hold that up | 15:21 |
| sc68cal | carl_baldwin: thanks for your help :) | 15:21 |
| haleyb | what is the nova backport? i came late but don't see it in the logs | 15:21 |
| carl_baldwin | haleyb: I'm not sure if mriedem has proposed it yet. | 15:23 |
| mriedem | we're waiting for the d-g change to merge | 15:24 |
| mriedem | so it doesn't get held up by the nova liberty backport | 15:24 |
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| mtreinish | lbragstad: about: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/096593.html have you played with openstack-health much? | 19:45 |
| lbragstad | mtreinish i haven't | 19:45 |
| mtreinish | lbragstad: because perf analysis in the gate is one of the things it's trying to do | 19:46 |
| mtreinish | like: http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/test/tempest.api.identity.v3.test_tokens.TokensV3Test.test_create_token | 19:46 |
| lbragstad | mtreinish oh - perfect | 19:46 |
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| lbragstad | mtreinish does it run against proposed patches? | 19:47 |
| mtreinish | lbragstad: we collect test result data from the gate and periodic queues into a subunit2sql db | 19:47 |
| mtreinish | and that's the data source for the visualizations | 19:47 |
| lbragstad | got it - so it's an average across a set of jobs | 19:48 |
| mtreinish | we're not collecting anything for the check queue right now (there are issues with filtering it out right now and it would polute things with garbage patches) | 19:48 |
| lbragstad | that makes sense | 19:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tempest: Add missing test for the object storage v1 API https://review.openstack.org/318259 | 19:49 |
| mtreinish | lbragstad: so that link I sent you is a plot of all the runs of tempest's test_create_token for all runs in the gate and periodic queues resampled to the hour | 19:50 |
| mtreinish | lbragstad: the issue with doing side by side comparisons in the gate is there absolutely no consistency | 19:50 |
| lbragstad | mtreinish right | 19:51 |
| lbragstad | mtreinish there would have to be a consistent/dedicated environment somewhere | 19:51 |
| mtreinish | it's the way things are setup with things running in vms on multiple public clouds | 19:51 |
| mtreinish | right, which is something we don't have | 19:51 |
| mtreinish | but look at things over time lets us extrapolate some trends, which is what I was working on with subunit2sql and o-h | 19:52 |
| lbragstad | mtreinish which is totally valuable | 19:52 |
| mtreinish | lbragstad: I did write a couple blog posts on this: http://blog.kortar.org/?p=212 http://blog.kortar.org/?p=279 and gave a summit talk on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0__tD88oAlo | 19:53 |
| lbragstad | mtreinish nice | 19:53 |
| mtreinish | lbragstad: if there is a view you want on the dashboard that's not there we can work on adding it | 19:53 |
| lbragstad | i guess what I was asking for would be taking what you've done one step farther and finding a way to provide consistent performance feedback pre-merge? | 19:53 |
| mtreinish | lbragstad: that was something I looked at doing early on, I wanted subunit-trace to report on the performance relative to the avg from the db on the console output | 19:54 |
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| mtreinish | so when you look at the test results it would say test X is 5% slower than the average | 19:55 |
| mtreinish | but that was really not too useful | 19:55 |
| lbragstad | how come? | 19:55 |
| lbragstad | because of the infrastructure issue? | 19:55 |
| mtreinish | the first implementation I had of it was a bit too noisy | 19:56 |
| mtreinish | because I was seeding the averages properly | 19:56 |
| mtreinish | and I never got a chance to revisit it | 19:56 |
| lbragstad | ah - makes sense | 19:56 |
| mtreinish | s/was/wasn't | 19:56 |
| lbragstad | but i suppose that would still be subject to the lack of a consistent performance environment? | 19:57 |
| mtreinish | right, it'll still won't be that useful | 19:57 |
| mtreinish | http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/test/tempest.scenario.test_volume_boot_pattern.TestVolumeBootPatternV2.test_volume_boot_pattern is a good example of the variance in test runs | 19:58 |
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| lbragstad | oo | 19:58 |
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| mtreinish | that's got a good 60 secs for a noise margin for running that test | 19:58 |
| lbragstad | yeah - i see how that can be an issue | 19:59 |
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| sdague | lbragstad: I think if you want to actually track performance, you are going to need tight loop micro benchmarks | 20:00 |
| sdague | there is so much unrelated variance otherwise | 20:00 |
| lbragstad | sdague tight loop micro benchmarks specifically meaning the tests, or the infrastructure, or both? | 20:01 |
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| sdague | tests | 20:03 |
| sdague | with a baseline that might be able to callibrate the environment | 20:03 |
| sdague | the computes we get vary by at least 50% on performance | 20:04 |
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| lbragstad | sdague just as a result of the test complexity and setup? | 20:05 |
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| sdague | no, because this are cloud instances | 20:10 |
| sdague | from 6 different providers | 20:10 |
| sdague | with multiple generations of hardware | 20:10 |
| sdague | and noisy neighbors | 20:10 |
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| lbragstad | sdague ah yes - that makes sense | 20:11 |
| sdague | it's sort of like trying to measure wind speed and direction when you are driving your car 40 miles an hour up a mountain road | 20:11 |
| lbragstad | right | 20:11 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: you don't have an anemometer mounted on your car yet? | 20:13 |
| sdague | mtreinish: not yet :) | 20:14 |
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| sdague | lbragstad: anyway, it's doable, but you have to understand what your control is. Because you are making hypothesis testing. On normal pass/fail testing, the control is easy - it should not fail | 20:16 |
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| lbragstad | sdague that's a good point - if testing patches pre-merge is the data point that I care about, does it make sense to assume the control is generated using master? | 20:18 |
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| sdague | lbragstad: ok, but master isn't a control. Because how are you controlling for the 50% timing divergence. | 20:21 |
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| sdague | a control doesn't just mean a second data point, it means the known correct value to some certainty | 20:22 |
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| lbragstad | sdague so would it make more sense to determine the control once we have a reasonable amount of data? | 20:23 |
| lbragstad | for example - let's say i'm using a super consistent baremetal environment, setup the exact same way everytime, and i have very specific tests i'm running | 20:24 |
| sdague | lbragstad: sure, in that case, you run 100 times with the same git sha, and do standard deviation and you can see how much you vary | 20:25 |
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| lbragstad | ok - that makes sense | 20:31 |
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