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| nikil22 | hi while executing tempest example "scenario/test_network_basic_ops.py" will all the test eg:-) "def test_update_router_admin_state(self):" and other cases go in random manner and not in the same way as written in the code. Could some one tell me why this executes in a random manner | 06:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thalabathy Venkatesan proposed openstack/tempest: This test case validates instance with no security group, There is defect (1399525) in existing code that blocking Instance traffic after removing security group from the Instance port. https://review.openstack.org/143404 | 06:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thalabathy Venkatesan proposed openstack/tempest: This test validates instance public connectivity status by changing instance port admin_state_up with True & False. https://review.openstack.org/145702 | 06:58 |
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| gmann | nikil22: thats depend on testr which discover the tests and load those to run | 07:35 |
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| gmann | flaper87: ping | 07:55 |
| flaper87 | gmann: pong | 07:56 |
| gmann | flaper87: regarding bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1406218 | 07:56 |
| gmann | flaper87: i did not get it for tempest. is it tempest or KSM? | 07:57 |
| flaper87 | gmann: it's KSM and I literally have no idea how it ended up under tempest | 07:58 |
| flaper87 | can I just blame launchpad ? | 07:59 |
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| gmann | flaper87: heh. ok no issue i will change it. | 07:59 |
| gmann | flaper87: thanks | 07:59 |
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| mriedem | heyongli: did you talk to mtreinish about a spec for the pci tests? | 14:45 |
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| anteaya | hope yo ufind a good way forward | 14:45 |
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| mriedem | ok, sounds like it's an exotic config that doesn't really match tempest...has the code for any of the tests been posted? | 14:48 |
| mriedem | thinking out loud, i wouldn't want a job voting in nova if i can't see the tests when it breaks | 14:48 |
| mriedem | or a non-voting job outside the experimental queue for that matter | 14:48 |
| steveg | heyongli, ^^ | 14:49 |
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| sdague | I think more importantly it would be good to make those tests open source regardless, so that what they are doing can be seen. | 14:51 |
| mriedem | sure, could be a separate test repo | 14:51 |
| mriedem | is the exotic config something that can't be contained in a separate devstack job? i'm assuming requires special hardware so really not useful unless you've got the right environment for devstack to work, | 14:57 |
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| mriedem | but couldn't there be a pci plugin to devstack or something? | 14:58 |
| mriedem | heyongli: ^? | 15:01 |
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| sdague | mriedem: the issue we discussed when we came around this the last time is basically there is going to be a huge amount of site specific info that has to be configured for things like the pci white list, what devices exist, etc. It's not really a tempest test if you need to know the specifics of the hardware topology | 15:19 |
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| mriedem | ok, i suppose that'd be like needing to know what db nova is running with or which virt driver so you can parse certain results and know what's supported | 15:23 |
| mriedem | like the big mess with get_diagnostics returning different blobs per hypervisor | 15:23 |
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| sdague | yep | 15:39 |
| sdague | mriedem: hey, so this warnings issue with the unit tests, this is still outstanding at this point? | 15:39 |
| mriedem | sdague: was about to check results on that | 15:40 |
| mriedem | wrapping something up | 15:40 |
| sdague | ok, I've been tracing through things a ton this morning | 15:40 |
| sdague | trying to figure out why things are duplicated on warnings | 15:41 |
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| sdague | where do we configure the size of the eventlet green pool? | 15:41 |
| mriedem | oh crap https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145611/ was already merged | 15:41 |
| mriedem | ah i forgot to wip -1 it on ps3 | 15:42 |
| sdague | well, it doesn't hurt | 15:42 |
| sdague | but, it's honestly not going to help either | 15:42 |
| mriedem | oh idk, http://logs.openstack.org/11/145611/3/gate/gate-nova-python27/42d9a7b/console.html | 15:42 |
| mriedem | search for DeprecationWarning, there are 131 hits | 15:43 |
| mriedem | i'd like to compare that to a run before that change | 15:43 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/69/145269/1/gate/gate-nova-python27/ac015eb/console.html | 15:43 |
| mriedem | 386 | 15:43 |
| mriedem | so not drastically better, but better | 15:43 |
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| sdague | right | 15:45 |
| sdague | ok, maybe it's good enough | 15:46 |
| mriedem | interesting http://goo.gl/0hvVuD | 15:46 |
| mriedem | note that's just stable/juno... | 15:46 |
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| sdague | hmmm | 15:47 |
| sdague | ok, I don't know then. Though I think our onceregistry basically ends up only unique per eventlet greenthread | 15:48 |
| sdague | which is the crux of the problem | 15:48 |
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| sdague | but that's currently a guess | 15:50 |
| sdague | is there a good way to get the eventlet thread id? | 15:50 |
| mriedem | yeah i'm scratching my head over why stable/juno hits dropped off in the last 24 hours | 15:50 |
| mriedem | unless some library changed | 15:50 |
| mriedem | import thread | 15:51 |
| mriedem | thread.get_ident()? | 15:51 |
| mriedem | http://eventlet.net/doc/threading.html | 15:51 |
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| sdague | hmmm... that seems to think they are all the same thread id | 15:54 |
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| sdague | so I just forced down the ENTLET_THREADPOOL_SIZE to 2, and still get about 20 of these | 16:00 |
| sdague | and I've force set the workers param as well | 16:00 |
| sdague | so we clearly only have 1 | 16:00 |
| sdague | I really don't understand why we are reentering this whole stack this many times | 16:01 |
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| sdague | yeh, so this is getting called 25 times from a single test | 16:14 |
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| mriedem | sdague: on stable/juno the one i noticed first was the load all extensions test | 16:23 |
| mriedem | nova.tests.integrated.test_api_samples.ApiSamplesTrap.test_all_extensions_have_samples | 16:23 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/74/145374/1/check/gate-nova-python27/6201323/console.html#_2015-01-06_23_34_35_471 | 16:23 |
| mriedem | rough count of 24 warnings in that output | 16:24 |
| sdague | yep, 24 is what I'm seeing locally as well | 16:24 |
| mriedem | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/tests/functional/test_api_samples.py#n134 | 16:24 |
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| mriedem | loadwsgi | 16:25 |
| mriedem | so when it's loading up each extension? | 16:25 |
| sdague | we have more than 24 extensions | 16:25 |
| sdague | so... I've got a modified warnings.py with a ton more debug in it, let me paste you the output | 16:26 |
| sdague | http://paste.openstack.org/show/155994/ | 16:26 |
| sdague | you only need to run one test to get the issue to expose | 16:26 |
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| sdague | that includes the full stack frame every time the warning is called | 16:27 |
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| mriedem | so when the integrated tests load up the api service, seems to trigger it | 16:28 |
| mriedem | self.osapi = service.WSGIService("osapi_compute") | 16:28 |
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| mriedem | and the once registery isn't ever populated? | 16:28 |
| mriedem | always same pid/thread | 16:29 |
| sdague | yeh, not that I can see | 16:29 |
| sdague | yep | 16:29 |
| sdague | I'm seriously confused honestly | 16:29 |
| bknudson | warnings allows you to filter by module too so it probably needs more info than just whether it was logged ever or not | 16:29 |
| bknudson | and default is to log per location | 16:30 |
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| sdague | bknudson: it's always the same location | 16:34 |
| sdague | see the stacktrace | 16:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joseph Lanoux proposed openstack/tempest: Change volume client methods to return one value https://review.openstack.org/142809 | 16:38 |
| bknudson | sdague: mriedem: just want to make sure -- this is on master? | 16:45 |
| sdague | yes | 16:45 |
| mriedem | bknudson: and stable/juno | 16:45 |
| bknudson | and the paste shows python2.7... I think the default warnings behavior changes depending on the python version | 16:46 |
| bknudson | I'll see if I can recreate it | 16:46 |
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| andreaf | dkranz, gmann, mtreinish: I fixed all the nits and comments in https://review.openstack.org/94741 | 16:52 |
| bknudson | sdague: mriedem: can I run a single test? I tried `tox -e py27 nova.tests.functional.test_api_samples.AgentsJsonTest.test_agent_create` | 16:55 |
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| sdague | yeh | 16:57 |
| clarkb | is py27 the correct env for nova functional tests? | 16:58 |
| mriedem | bknudson: missing the --? | 16:58 |
| mriedem | tox -e py27 -- nova.tests.functional.test_api_samples.AgentsJsonTest.test_agent_create | 16:59 |
| bknudson | I'll try tox -e functional | 17:00 |
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| mriedem | oh right | 17:00 |
| bknudson | the other command sez "The test run didn't actually run any tests" | 17:00 |
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| bknudson | venv install takes a long time. | 17:05 |
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| bknudson | (mostly in cc1) | 17:05 |
| bknudson | I've got plenty of cpus... make -j! | 17:07 |
| bknudson | ok, that test prints out the same junk for me. | 17:08 |
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| bknudson | nova has a WarningsFixture | 17:25 |
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| sdague | bknudson: only since yesterday | 17:36 |
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| nikil22 | hi is there any test scenario which creates a VM with public/external network directly and do the basic test | 18:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/tempest-lib: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/145902 | 18:51 |
| marun | url 1 | 18:57 |
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| bknudson | when I run that test with `.tox/functional/bin/python -m testtools.run discover --load-list test_to_run` then I only see the warning output once. | 19:04 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: ok, I'll take look, it's probably ready for +A | 19:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/qa-specs: add bp:ssh-auth-strategy https://review.openstack.org/94741 | 19:17 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: ^^^ | 19:18 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: :) thanks | 19:19 |
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| bknudson | when I remove " | subunit-trace -f" from tools/pretty_tox.sh then I only see it once... let me try on a cleaner setup. | 19:29 |
| bknudson | oops, guess not, just my env got messy | 19:30 |
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| bknudson | of course when there's no pretty_tox.sh it doesn't print anything | 19:33 |
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| mtreinish | bknudson: what exactly are you trying to do? | 19:36 |
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| bknudson | mtreinish: figure out why getting warnings multiple times: http://paste.openstack.org/show/155994/ | 19:36 |
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| bknudson | my current theory is it's got something to do with the stdout/stderr capturing, not sure how that could be the case, but there's not much else to go on. | 19:39 |
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| jogo | dhellmann mtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145567/ | 20:26 |
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| bknudson | the database fixture may be up to no good with the warnings. | 20:34 |
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| bknudson | sdague mriedem: try this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145927/ | 20:41 |
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| mriedem | bknudson: will check the results | 20:42 |
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| sdague | bknudson: huh | 20:47 |
| sdague | yep, that works | 20:47 |
| sdague | so why is the db fixture borking us? | 20:47 |
| bknudson | it's not calling warnings directly so there must be something further down. | 20:48 |
| bknudson | in sqlalchemy | 20:48 |
| sdague | yeh, I thought I looked at sqlalchemy's use of warnings | 20:50 |
| sdague | and convinced myself it was only in the test code | 20:50 |
| sdague | bknudson: could you put a comment in about the placement that's needed? because that's going to be non obvious in the future I think | 20:50 |
| bknudson | sdague: will do. | 20:50 |
| sdague | and, thanks much | 20:51 |
| mriedem | yeah, i considered add the warnings fixture to the end b/c i wasn't sure about placement | 20:51 |
| sdague | I was tearing my hair over that all morning | 20:51 |
| mriedem | bknudson is trapped in his house so he has nothing better to do :) | 20:51 |
| bknudson | mriedem: you're going to be trapped on site soon enough. | 20:51 |
| mriedem | i don't have a good comeback for that which makes any sense | 20:52 |
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| bknudson | to figure this out I wrote a new test that called some deprecated function Exception().message a few times and then just kept trying different things (placement of warnings.filter, etc) until I finally came across this. | 21:00 |
| mriedem | bknudson: now the question is, and dhellmann asked this in sdague's original patch, is should we move this into oslotest so it's in all projects? | 21:02 |
| mriedem | but i guess if it's really about the db fixture, that probably doesn't help | 21:03 |
| mriedem | so nvm | 21:03 |
| bknudson | the fixture itself? We could use it in Keystone too. | 21:03 |
| mriedem | yeah | 21:03 |
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| bknudson | although I like the way we did it since I don't want to have people adding new code that uses deprecated. | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | true | 21:04 |
| mriedem | you could add params on usage i guess | 21:04 |
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| sdague | yeh, I think at some point we probably want to figure out which of the fixtures we've got make sense to be elsewhere | 21:05 |
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| sdague | but honestly, I'd rather kind of survey those, and only bring forward the fixtures that wouldn't need params at all | 21:07 |
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| bknudson | I set up with mock.patch.object(warnings, 'simplefilter', side_effect=Exception): to see where it's called by database... | 21:24 |
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| bknudson | http://paste.openstack.org/show/156021/ | 21:24 |
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| bknudson | Look at this stinker: https://github.com/stackforge/sqlalchemy-migrate/blob/master/migrate/changeset/__init__.py#L13 | 21:26 |
| bknudson | maybe should just fix that instead of bothering with the rest of this. | 21:27 |
| bknudson | sdague: mriedem: ^ -- just need to find the owner of sqlalchemy-migrate. | 21:27 |
| bknudson | I think it's abandoned | 21:28 |
| mriedem | bknudson: funny you say that | 21:28 |
| mriedem | see #openstack-oslo from about 20 min ago | 21:28 |
| sdague | bknudson: man | 21:28 |
| sdague | bknudson: apparently my grepping was a complete failure | 21:29 |
| bknudson | I'll work on a patch... just vi dd | 21:30 |
| mriedem | bknudson: i added sqla-migrate to the bug, you want to just push the change for that to migrate? | 21:30 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/sqlalchemy-migrate/+bug/1407736 | 21:30 |
| mriedem | bknudson: then mark that as closes-bug for the bug since it's the root | 21:30 |
| sdague | https://github.com/stackforge/sqlalchemy-migrate/commit/878c673ca8b068b8fcd6035183d62b7e8af06c83 | 21:30 |
| mriedem | zzzeek and i were just talking about a migrate release | 21:30 |
| mriedem | yeah, i don't know how that fixes anything | 21:31 |
| bknudson | they must have a test that makes sure they get lots of deprecation warnings | 21:31 |
| mriedem | there are a couple of changes in the queue for migrate, i think once those are merged (including this one) we should do a release | 21:32 |
| mriedem | i need one for db2 | 21:32 |
| mriedem | no one active on the project knows how to do a release for it though :( | 21:32 |
| sdague | mriedem: ask fungi on -infra | 21:32 |
| sdague | it's just setting a tag | 21:32 |
| sdague | but I forget the steps | 21:32 |
| mriedem | pushing a release tag, yeah, something like htat | 21:33 |
| mriedem | will do when the time comes | 21:33 |
| mriedem | bknudson: did you want to touch up the code comment in here at all? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145927/ | 21:33 |
| mriedem | if so i'll fast +W | 21:33 |
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| bknudson | I could just abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145927/ if we can get a release of sqla-m | 21:34 |
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| fungi | mriedem: sdague: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html#tagging-a-release | 21:35 |
| mriedem | bknudson: let's get the nova thing in first | 21:37 |
| mriedem | the migrate release will take longer | 21:37 |
| mriedem | there is another migrate patch up that needs to be merged first | 21:37 |
| fungi | mriedem: looks like you may need to be added to https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/186,members before you'll be able to release it though (the acl on that project grants the permission to its core reviewer group) | 21:38 |
| mriedem | fungi: zzzeek might be able to do it when the time comes | 21:38 |
| mriedem | that core list is pretty unrealistic right now | 21:38 |
| bknudson | mriedem: I'll fix up the comment. | 21:38 |
| mriedem | bknudson: k, then i'll approve quick | 21:38 |
| fungi | mriedem: yeah, he's an obvious choice. and i agree from what i've seen the core reviewer list for that project needs revisiting | 21:39 |
| sdague | fungi: so honestly, mriedem should be added to core, he's probably been patching that more than anyone atm | 21:40 |
| fungi | you won't get any argument from me. any of the current core reviewers can add him to the list (for example zzzeek) | 21:42 |
| mriedem | ihar works on it quite a bit | 21:44 |
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| gmann | Please join qa meeting.. about to start. | 22:00 |
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| bknudson | mriedem: sdague: I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145938/ is the fix in sqlalchemy-migrate | 22:08 |
| mriedem | bknudson: thanks, will take a look in a bit, trying to verify the fix for the other thing that causes us to not release | 22:09 |
| sdague | bknudson: why do we need tose warnings? | 22:11 |
| bknudson | sdague: there's a unit test that verifies it: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/sqlalchemy-migrate/tree/migrate/tests/versioning/test_shell.py#n488 | 22:12 |
| bknudson | I could just change the test. | 22:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-dev/devstack: DO NOT MERGE: verify the fix for bug 1368391 https://review.openstack.org/145947 | 22:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-dev/devstack: DO NOT MERGE: verify the fix for bug 1368391 https://review.openstack.org/145947 | 22:14 |
| sdague | bknudson: yeh, I'd just change the unit test | 22:16 |
| bknudson | sdague: will update. | 22:17 |
| sdague | bknudson: thanks | 22:17 |
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| bknudson | sdague: updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145938/ to remove the assert. | 22:24 |
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| mriedem | easy tempest change to keep nova from regressing this for another 6 months :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142980/ | 22:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | melanie witt proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: add query for bug 1408814 https://review.openstack.org/145969 | 23:32 |
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| mtreinish | jogo: don't have +2 on g-r, but if you think it's fine to up the pin lets go for it | 23:36 |
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| sdague | bknudson: so that other fix isn't really right | 23:40 |
| sdague | the one you abandoned for | 23:40 |
| bknudson | sdague: I can restore it, but if Brent is responsive and willing to fix his ... it was there first. | 23:40 |
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| sdague | yeh, but his approach is kind of out of whack compared to what we were doing, I'd rather just restore the one you had | 23:41 |
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| bknudson | restored. | 23:43 |
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