| adriant | tobberydberg: I'm around | 05:45 |
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| adriant | but... it's in and hr 15mins? | 05:45 |
| adriant | 75mins right? | 05:46 |
| zhipeng | yep :) | 05:46 |
| adriant | ok, will run to the gym now and try and get home in time for the meeting :) | 05:47 |
| adriant | may be a little late | 05:47 |
| tobberydberg | o/ | 07:03 |
| tobberydberg | great to hear that adriant | 07:03 |
| tobberydberg | Are you around as well zhipeng ?? | 07:03 |
| adriant | here! | 07:06 |
| tobberydberg | Cool! | 07:07 |
| tobberydberg | #startmeeting publiccloud_wg | 07:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 31 07:08:04 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: publiccloud_wg)" | 07:08 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' | 07:08 |
| tobberydberg | Agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg | 07:08 |
| tobberydberg | Looks like it's probably you and me here adriant ... but lets go over a few quick things | 07:10 |
| tobberydberg | zhipeng might drop in | 07:10 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 1. Berlin planning | 07:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "1. Berlin planning (Meeting topic: publiccloud_wg)" | 07:11 | |
| adriant | I'll be there :) | 07:11 |
| tobberydberg | See that you added your self to etherpad =) Will it be you and Bruno? Pr even more? | 07:12 |
| * adriant still has to finish his talk | 07:12 | |
| adriant | yes Bruno will be there too | 07:12 |
| adriant | forgot to add him | 07:12 |
| zhipeng | lurking | 07:12 |
| tobberydberg | Cool! We will be around 7 peeps from us as well | 07:12 |
| tobberydberg | Would be nice to pull off a "group dinner" .... but this is a short week, so maybe just look into that ad hoc when we are there.... | 07:14 |
| adriant | I'll be in Berlin from the 11th until the 17th, so plenty of chances :) | 07:14 |
| adriant | wanted to have a couple of days before the summit to relax and get ready | 07:14 |
| tobberydberg | Ah, awesome =) | 07:15 |
| tobberydberg | I'm there very late 11th and leaving 16th in the morning | 07:15 |
| zhipeng | Monday night ? | 07:15 |
| tobberydberg | Not a bad idea! | 07:15 |
| zhipeng | :) | 07:16 |
| adriant | works for me :) | 07:16 |
| tobberydberg | Added to etherpad | 07:17 |
| tobberydberg | Please add your name to that dinner time proposal as well and spread the word. I'll have a look for places ... can probably as someone local for tips | 07:18 |
| tobberydberg | We have some forum sessions submitted ... me and zhipeng will make sure to create individual etherpads for those | 07:19 |
| tobberydberg | Also, will add you as co moderator to the 2 we talked about adriant ... also make that is not in direct conflict with your other talks | 07:19 |
| tobberydberg | Will also marketing these sessions to the mailinglist | 07:20 |
| tobberydberg | We have a working group session. My suggestion is that we do: | 07:21 |
| tobberydberg | * Recap last 6 months | 07:21 |
| tobberydberg | Recap from Denver basically | 07:21 |
| tobberydberg | * Focus areas - decide upon which projects to work on etc | 07:21 |
| tobberydberg | * Goals - for the upcoming 6 months (until Denver) | 07:22 |
| tobberydberg | * Meeting attendance - (and timing) - We have had issues with attendance in the meetings lately, so would be nice to get some information about why that is and what can be done to have more people attend the meetings | 07:23 |
| zhipeng | Which one is the wg session ? | 07:25 |
| tobberydberg | Tue 13, 3:20pm - 4:00pm | 07:25 |
| tobberydberg | Public Cloud WG Meeting | 07:25 |
| zhipeng | Ah ok | 07:26 |
| tobberydberg | More ideas about the agenda for that session? | 07:26 |
| adriant | hah, my Adjutant talk is at the same time as the public cloud meeting | 07:28 |
| adriant | that's annoying, didn't spot that before | 07:29 |
| tobberydberg | ok. I'll see what I can do about that | 07:29 |
| tobberydberg | I would like to be in that talk as well ... and I assume a lot of other PC representatives | 07:29 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 2. Prio / ranking of launchpad | 07:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "2. Prio / ranking of launchpad (Meeting topic: publiccloud_wg)" | 07:31 | |
| tobberydberg | We have the list at https://launchpad.net/openstack-publiccloud-wg | 07:31 |
| tobberydberg | Pretty much up to date and well commented | 07:31 |
| tobberydberg | What we need is more "operators" to go in and "vote" | 07:32 |
| tobberydberg | We have now selected a few items that we believe are the most important and of more "community wide" character | 07:32 |
| tobberydberg | Like "Deletion of project" | 07:33 |
| tobberydberg | We are working on a community wide list for those, that isn't unique for us, a list for all operators | 07:33 |
| tobberydberg | We plan to have that done for Berlin and hopefully do a push there to get more people to vote for the most needed "features" | 07:34 |
| adriant | Well MFA and Project deletion I will most definitely be behind, and working on | 07:35 |
| tobberydberg | Yes, know, which is great! :-) Thank you for that! :-) | 07:36 |
| tobberydberg | I would love to be able to spend time and help out ... but not yet there... | 07:36 |
| adriant | actually should update the MFA bug: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/611230 | 07:36 |
| tobberydberg | +1 | 07:37 |
| adriant | and yes, sadly due to internal keystone refactors the work was pushed to stein :( | 07:38 |
| adriant | but the new code is much nicer | 07:38 |
| tobberydberg | All for the good | 07:38 |
| tobberydberg | Talked to Colleen and Lance about it in Denver | 07:39 |
| zhipeng | +100 | 07:40 |
| tobberydberg | What are the work you are doing with "Project deletion" ? | 07:40 |
| tobberydberg | is that inside Adjutant adriant ? | 07:40 |
| adriant | The Adjutant based workflow to delete a project yest | 07:41 |
| tobberydberg | ah, ok ok... We have talked alot about using ospurge and get that working... | 07:41 |
| adriant | mostly because I don't feel keystone needs or should have to worry about triggering a delete of resources in other projects, nor can other projects watch the message queue too well for a keystone delete notification | 07:41 |
| adriant | a workflow in Adjutant means and API call that can do the work, and confirm it | 07:41 |
| adriant | and potentially allow each project to implement an action for Adjutant to delete the resources in their service, or even just an API for Adjutant to call per service. | 07:42 |
| adriant | effectively, OS purge, but behind an API in Adjutant | 07:43 |
| tobberydberg | Ok, great! I've thought of it as a hygien factor for each project to have like a "purge" feature to deal with it's own resources ... but I see the issues that come with that as well | 07:43 |
| adriant | a purge feature in each service would be amazing! and I think that's a great idea | 07:44 |
| tobberydberg | sounds like we are thinking in the same lines here | 07:44 |
| adriant | but Keystone may not be the best place to call that... unless it can do so based on the services in the catalog | 07:44 |
| adriant | which... gets messy | 07:44 |
| adriant | per region, per service... | 07:44 |
| tobberydberg | yea, looks like the central place to have it, but hear you | 07:45 |
| tobberydberg | Wed 14, 4:20pm - 5:00pm Deletion of project and project resources | 07:45 |
| adriant | yep :) | 07:45 |
| adriant | looking forward to that, and will hopefully catch lance before that and get his view on it. | 07:45 |
| tobberydberg | ^^ Good opportunity to get all right people in the room and come to a great suggestion | 07:45 |
| tobberydberg | Perfect! | 07:45 |
| tobberydberg | We have 15 more minutes... | 07:46 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 3. Other business | 07:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "3. Other business (Meeting topic: publiccloud_wg)" | 07:46 | |
| tobberydberg | Just wanted to mention that it would be awesome if we can get to a point where we have better meeting attendance in general | 07:47 |
| * adriant is trying | 07:47 | |
| tobberydberg | Thanks for being here adriant by the way =) | 07:48 |
| adriant | I have missed the last few ones at this time sadly | 07:48 |
| tobberydberg | Know the meeting times are not in your favour | 07:48 |
| adriant | will after the summit make a more consistent reminder | 07:48 |
| tobberydberg | Like that! Still, is this timeslot ok for you? | 07:48 |
| adriant | and at least until end of December I may attend the second meeting since I'll be in Europe visiting family | 07:49 |
| adriant | yes, this time is perfect most of the time :) | 07:49 |
| tobberydberg | Thats nice=) | 07:50 |
| tobberydberg | Where will you be? | 07:51 |
| adriant | Croatia | 07:51 |
| tobberydberg | Sounds nice! :-) Never been there | 07:51 |
| adriant | very pretty! although I have mixed feelings about the people there :P | 07:51 |
| tobberydberg | hahaha | 07:52 |
| adriant | I'll be partly on holiday, partly working on upstream work | 07:52 |
| tobberydberg | Good mix! | 07:52 |
| adriant | and hopefully depending on the snow, going snowboarding! | 07:52 |
| zhipeng | And football ! | 07:53 |
| adriant | Well, i won't be playing it, but yes Croatia did well this year! | 07:53 |
| tobberydberg | The Alps should have some snow ... we already have snow in skiing resorts up north in Sweden | 07:53 |
| adriant | Nice! I should really visit Sweden at some stage. I have friends working at Spotify in Stockholm | 07:55 |
| tobberydberg | Another thing that I wan't to reach out about is the Passport program! Bring feedback to the meeting in Berlin... We need and we will do a little "restart" of that....focus of quality of the endusers so important that participating clouds follow the guideline that we decide upon | 07:55 |
| tobberydberg | Great place to work at! | 07:55 |
| adriant | Yes | 07:56 |
| tobberydberg | You let me know if you end up here! ;-) | 07:56 |
| adriant | will try to be at the forum session as well :) | 07:56 |
| tobberydberg | Perfect! We have plenty this time... | 07:57 |
| tobberydberg | Anything else folks? | 07:58 |
| adriant | I think we're good! | 08:00 |
| adriant | gonna be a busy summit, but hopefully very productive! | 08:00 |
| tobberydberg | Definitely! Looking forward to it! :-) | 08:00 |
| tobberydberg | Thats it for today then! :) Thanks for joining! | 08:01 |
| tobberydberg | See you in 2 weeks in Berlin! | 08:01 |
| adriant | oh and tobberydberg: one suggestion may be to eventually move the public cloud working group to Storyboard, although I know we've just gotten launchpad nice :) | 08:01 |
| adriant | but most of openstack is moving there slowly, and it 'mostly' works nicer | 08:01 |
| tobberydberg | Thanks for the feedback! Can agree, but personally don't like it much ... BUT ... haven't spend time with it so it's probably ok when you do =) | 08:02 |
| tobberydberg | But agree, we should | 08:02 |
| * adriant is literally in the process of moving adjutant blueprints and bugs over | 08:02 | |
| tobberydberg | The you can show as all the good stuff with SB in Berlin ;-) | 08:03 |
| tobberydberg | #endmeeting | 08:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New meeting time!! Thursday odd weeks at 1400 UTC in this channel!!" | 08:04 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 31 08:04:02 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-10-31-07.08.html | 08:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-10-31-07.08.txt | 08:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-10-31-07.08.log.html | 08:04 |
| tobberydberg | Take care folks! Off to another meeting here =) | 08:04 |
| adriant | see ya! | 08:05 |
| zhipeng | c ya ! | 08:16 |
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