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| tobberydberg | o/ | 14:00 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 14:01 |
| tobberydberg | welcome mriedem | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | :) | 14:02 |
| pilgrimstack | o/ | 14:02 |
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| tobberydberg | welcome pilgrimstack | 14:02 |
| tobberydberg | #startmeeting publiccloud_wg | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 19 14:03:23 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tobberydberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: publiccloud_wg)" | 14:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'publiccloud_wg' | 14:03 |
| zaneb | tobberydberg: I was hoping to chat about adjutant a bit. but also on another call simultaneously, so maybe towards the end of the agenda :) | 14:03 |
| aprice | o/ | 14:03 |
| tobberydberg | sounds good zaneb | 14:03 |
| tobberydberg | welcome aprice | 14:03 |
| tobberydberg | Agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/publiccloud-wg as usual | 14:04 |
| tobberydberg | Please put your name there as well | 14:05 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 1. Additional meeting slot | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "1. Additional meeting slot (Meeting topic: publiccloud_wg)" | 14:05 | |
| tobberydberg | danny and allison ... you just added yourself to last meeting =) | 14:06 |
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| tobberydberg | so, talked to a few people in Vancouver that wasn't really happy with the afternoon UTC time | 14:07 |
| danny | whoops | 14:07 |
| danny | thanks : ) | 14:07 |
| tobberydberg | My proposal here will be that we try to have a meeting on even weeks as well, at 0700 UTC ... which works better for APAC | 14:08 |
| tobberydberg | Also, we start doing this as more of test slot and see how many people will be there and what action we can get there | 14:10 |
| tobberydberg | Any questions or thoughts around that? | 14:10 |
| mriedem | that's how we try to run the nova meeting, | 14:11 |
| mriedem | alternating times to cover EU/APAC | 14:11 |
| mriedem | still not great for APAC for the nova meeting, but one is better than the other | 14:12 |
| tobberydberg | yes, I know ... time chosen in communication with a Catalyst cloud so that it is okay for them, but at the same time ok for europe so we can cover that as well | 14:13 |
| tobberydberg | ButOk ... not much questions, so I'll go ahead and add that and give it a try | 14:14 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 2. Passport program - spec approval | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "2. Passport program - spec approval (Meeting topic: publiccloud_wg)" | 14:14 | |
| tobberydberg | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583529/ | 14:15 |
| tobberydberg | Made a patch with the v2 content as we worked out together in the last meetings | 14:15 |
| pilgrimstack | it's an additionnal meeting or it's to replace that one ? | 14:16 |
| tobberydberg | would be good if we get thoughts, +1 and -1 on that, together with comments appreciated or inline comments | 14:16 |
| tobberydberg | not replace, additional ... so we have one every week | 14:17 |
| aprice | danny reached out to the existing passport program members so hopefully we see more participation in there | 14:17 |
| tobberydberg | saw that, thanks danny and aprice | 14:18 |
| tobberydberg | Please reach out to me if you get any feedback in that channel | 14:18 |
| danny | i also reached out to 6 prospects that have showed interest | 14:18 |
| tobberydberg | perfect danny | 14:18 |
| aprice | of course - is there a time when you are hoping to have all feedback in? | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | yesterday? ;-) | 14:19 |
| tobberydberg | well ... would be good to have the voting done by the meeting in 2 weeks | 14:19 |
| aprice | haha | 14:20 |
| aprice | yes, i think that's doable | 14:20 |
| tobberydberg | for my self its no hurry, leaving for vacation .. .well try to do the meetings, but will not be much else done during the upcoming 4 weeks from my side | 14:20 |
| tobberydberg | So, pilgrimstack rmart04 adriant (and others that represent members of the PP ... please take your time to read the spec and comment. | 14:21 |
| tobberydberg | As I said, whats in that spec have been worked out during the last couple of metings and what was said during the meetings in Vancouver | 14:22 |
| tobberydberg | questions, thoughts, something else about that? | 14:23 |
| tobberydberg | then we proceed | 14:25 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 3. Global loadbalancer feedback | 14:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "3. Global loadbalancer feedback (Meeting topic: publiccloud_wg)" | 14:25 | |
| tobberydberg | Last meeting we were introduced to a proposal from Memset | 14:25 |
| tobberydberg | not sure how many that have seen the drafted document that they wrote after last meeting | 14:26 |
| tobberydberg | is anyone from memset here? (ping rmart04) | 14:27 |
| rmart04 | Howdy Howdy! | 14:27 |
| rmart04 | Sorry, let me catch up | 14:27 |
| tobberydberg | not sure that document was shared at the mailing list... | 14:28 |
| tobberydberg | not sure how much you are involved in that initiative rmart04 - but at this stage I think that we need to make it publicly available (mailing list) and ask the community for feedback | 14:31 |
| aprice | +1 | 14:31 |
| rmart04 | Cool, Just quickly grabbed Nick, he sais the document is still in draft and they hope to have somthing to share soon. I’m not too involved at this stage, but I mentioned the mailing list could be a good place to share it. | 14:32 |
| tobberydberg | ok, lets postpone then | 14:32 |
| rmart04 | Sorry! | 14:32 |
| tobberydberg | no problem | 14:33 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 4. Draft spec for Missing features | 14:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "4. Draft spec for Missing features (Meeting topic: publiccloud_wg)" | 14:33 | |
| pilgrimstack | tobberydberg: added in my todo to review the specs | 14:33 |
| tobberydberg | thanks pilgrimstack | 14:33 |
| rmart04 | as for 0700 UTC thats a bit early for me to be honest! I’m not sure there are enough of us to warrent 2 different time zones bi-weekly! | 14:33 |
| tobberydberg | no need rmart04 - this time slot will still be here | 14:34 |
| rmart04 | Ah OK :) | 14:34 |
| tobberydberg | So, spec for missing features - suggestion from my side is to draft a spec for the "missing features" project, like we did for Passport | 14:35 |
| mriedem | it's going to be a project? | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | should have had that between " | 14:36 |
| mriedem | right now the progress was moving the items from the mega spreadsheet into LP bugs right? | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | "project" | 14:36 |
| tobberydberg | not sure what to call it | 14:36 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-publiccloud-wg | 14:37 |
| tobberydberg | More of a definition spec how we work with "missing features list" etc etc | 14:37 |
| tobberydberg | yes | 14:37 |
| mriedem | oh | 14:37 |
| mriedem | like a project guide? | 14:37 |
| tobberydberg | will be kept like that | 14:37 |
| tobberydberg | a more structured definition of what that list is about and how we work with it, so that is clear for everyone that will help out in some way | 14:39 |
| mriedem | maybe a tangent, | 14:39 |
| mriedem | but is it ok to mark some of these as incomplete, like https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-publiccloud-wg/+bug/1771591 ? | 14:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1771591 in OpenStack Public Cloud WG "Nova resize filter" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Paweł Suder (sudix) | 14:39 |
| mriedem | where it needs investigation | 14:39 |
| tobberydberg | absolutely | 14:40 |
| tobberydberg | and exactly that question should be super clear in some documentation for the workflow of this list | 14:41 |
| tobberydberg | I will make etherpad draft for this as we did with PP and we can have more discussions around it, but the content of that will be based upon the discussions we had in Vancouver | 14:42 |
| tobberydberg | mriedem: hopefully pasuder will get a ping about that and confirm from his side as well! | 14:43 |
| tobberydberg | regarding 1771591 | 14:44 |
| mriedem | ack | 14:45 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 5. Upcoming meetings | 14:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "5. Upcoming meetings (Meeting topic: publiccloud_wg)" | 14:46 | |
| tobberydberg | How does it look with vacations and stuff? Will people be away or working the upcoming 4 weeks? | 14:47 |
| tobberydberg | everyone have already left for vacation... ;-) | 14:49 |
| aprice | I will be around if there are things that need to move forward :) | 14:49 |
| tobberydberg | Good to know! | 14:50 |
| tobberydberg | We will probably have some PP discussion at least | 14:50 |
| danny | so will I : ) | 14:50 |
| tobberydberg | #topic 6. Other topics | 14:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "6. Other topics (Meeting topic: publiccloud_wg)" | 14:51 | |
| * zaneb is off the phone now | 14:51 | |
| tobberydberg | See that you mriedem have added som stuff there and would like to get some feedback as well | 14:52 |
| mriedem | yeah first just an fyi on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1469179+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 14:52 |
| mriedem | a series of changes to fix the long known issue where nova reports and filters hosts on root_gb even if doing boot from volume | 14:52 |
| mriedem | only applies to the FilterScheduler (not CachingScheduler) | 14:53 |
| mriedem | but CachingScheduler should be gone in Stein anyway | 14:53 |
| tobberydberg | ++ | 14:53 |
| mriedem | we have data migration tools in rocky for people using CachingScheduler to get over to FilterScheduler | 14:53 |
| mriedem | mgagne has helped test those out | 14:53 |
| pilgrimstack | a bad news from OVH: we disabled (temporary) the passport program because of too many frauders | 14:53 |
| mriedem | i'm talking about the heal_allocations CLI https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/cli/nova-manage.html#placement | 14:53 |
| mriedem | the other thing i posted was a couple of previously approved specs in nova which huawei might be picking up again in stein, so was trying to gauge interest on those since they aren't in the 'missing features' LP bug list | 14:54 |
| mriedem | doesn't have to be done during this meeting though, the links are in the etherpad | 14:54 |
| tobberydberg | Thanks for that | 14:55 |
| mriedem | that's it from me | 14:55 |
| tobberydberg | will look into them | 14:55 |
| zaneb | so, good news, Adjutant will be an official project starting with the Stein release | 14:56 |
| zaneb | #link https://review.openstack.org/553643 | 14:56 |
| tobberydberg | whoop whoop | 14:56 |
| zaneb | there was some discussion in there about adoption or lack of it | 14:56 |
| zaneb | it seems like people are holding off until it is finished | 14:56 |
| zaneb | but also they're not getting much feedback on the design because people are holding back until they've adopted it | 14:57 |
| mriedem | catch 22 | 14:57 |
| tobberydberg | exactly | 14:57 |
| rmart04 | pilgrimstack: Do you do any fraud checking with a card provider before enabling the OpenStack project for the user? | 14:57 |
| zaneb | my concern is that because only one team in involved, we could end up in a situation where it doesn't meet other companies' needs due to lack of feedback | 14:58 |
| zaneb | so anything we can do to try to bootstrap that feedback loop would be helpful | 14:58 |
| tobberydberg | zaneb: I personally can't help out much in the testing since we are not using horizon | 14:58 |
| tobberydberg | But, I assume that there is plenty in here that does ? | 14:59 |
| zaneb | like if we could encourage people to take a look at the APIs and point out any holes or whatever, that would be great | 14:59 |
| tobberydberg | We can if nothing else do a shout out in the mailing list and potentially other places for feedback | 15:00 |
| zaneb | anyway, I just wanted to publicise that a little bit within this group | 15:00 |
| zaneb | +1 | 15:00 |
| zaneb | I'm sure adriant would like to be here to do that but it's currently 3am for him so I am filling in :) | 15:00 |
| tobberydberg | Looking at the apis and feature design spec is probably something that I can help out with since I've build our own system for this =) | 15:00 |
| zaneb | tobberydberg: that would be fantastic :) | 15:01 |
| tobberydberg | what is why wednesdays even weeks at 0700 UTC will be better for him =) | 15:01 |
| tobberydberg | do you know if he will be in Denver? | 15:01 |
| zaneb | not sure actually | 15:02 |
| tobberydberg | I can probably ask him myself in an email though =) | 15:02 |
| tobberydberg | ok ok | 15:02 |
| tobberydberg | Lets try to do some kind out shout out within the group and publiccloud-wg tag in mailing list for a start (know adriant already done that though) | 15:03 |
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| tobberydberg | Anything else? | 15:03 |
| tobberydberg | know we are out of time | 15:03 |
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| tobberydberg | then thanks for today everyone - and stay tuned for new meetings in the upcoming weeks! | 15:05 |
| tobberydberg | #endmeeting | 15:06 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 19 15:06:18 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:06 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-07-19-14.03.html | 15:06 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-07-19-14.03.txt | 15:06 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/publiccloud_wg/2018/publiccloud_wg.2018-07-19-14.03.log.html | 15:06 |
| zaneb | tobberydberg: thanks! | 15:06 |
| aprice | thanks everyone! | 15:07 |
| pilgrimstack | rmart04 we have 3DS | 15:07 |
| pilgrimstack | what do you have as check on your side ? | 15:08 |
| danny | thanks : ) | 15:08 |
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