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| openstackgerrit | Alexandr Nevenchannyy proposed openstack/performance-docs: [WIP]Add test results for zookeeper service https://review.openstack.org/300029 | 11:35 |
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| rook | boris-42 yeah, I saw you guys have a export feature, but I didn't think it had a elastic connector yet | 14:22 |
| rook | "yet" :D | 14:22 |
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| rook | DinaBelova are my clocks off (maybe DST) but is it not 1600? | 15:01 |
| DinaBelova | nope, it's 1500 now | 15:02 |
| DinaBelova | we'll have a meeting in an hour | 15:02 |
| rook | damn DST! | 15:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexandr Nevenchannyy proposed openstack/performance-docs: [WIP]Add test results for zookeeper service https://review.openstack.org/300029 | 15:03 |
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| DinaBelova | #startmeeting Performance Team | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 5 16:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is DinaBelova. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'performance_team' | 16:00 |
| DinaBelova | o/ | 16:00 |
| DinaBelova | hey folks! | 16:00 |
| rohanion | ะพ/ | 16:00 |
| rohanion | hi | 16:00 |
| lezbar__ | hi | 16:00 |
| rook | o/ | 16:00 |
| rook | howdy | 16:00 |
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| DinaBelova | ok, let's wait for a few moments | 16:01 |
| DinaBelova | and let others join as well | 16:01 |
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| bsilverman | Hi Dina | 16:01 |
| DinaBelova | bsilverman o/ | 16:01 |
| ilyashakhat | o/ | 16:01 |
| bsilverman | :) | 16:01 |
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| DinaBelova | we have standard agenda for today | 16:01 |
| DinaBelova | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Performance#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:01 |
| DinaBelova | due to the fact I was sick last time and klindgren was replacing me, there are no much to discuss in the action items, but still | 16:02 |
| DinaBelova | :) | 16:02 |
| DinaBelova | #topic Action Items | 16:02 |
| klindgren | DinaBelova, you going to be in Austin? | 16:03 |
| DinaBelova | klindgren yes sir :) | 16:03 |
| DinaBelova | hope to see you there as well :) | 16:03 |
| klindgren | I will be there | 16:04 |
| bsilverman | DinaBelova: Let me know if you want to talk about new items after the action items. | 16:04 |
| rook | will there be a performance meetup @ Austin? | 16:04 |
| DinaBelova | btw, about action items: the only one left was on myself regarding keystone profiling results sharing | 16:04 |
| DinaBelova | rook we'll have OpenStack summit @Austin, and some our session will be there | 16:04 |
| DinaBelova | so for Keystone: here are my changes | 16:05 |
| DinaBelova | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:openstack/performance-docs+branch:master+topic:keystone-res | 16:05 |
| DinaBelova | some of them were merged to give comfortable possibility to go through the results, one change still on review | 16:05 |
| DinaBelova | with raw results - mostly because it'll ruin all openstack contribution stats | 16:06 |
| DinaBelova | :D | 16:06 |
| DinaBelova | we're trying to understand what to do with them | 16:06 |
| DinaBelova | dims ^^ | 16:06 |
| DinaBelova | so in short on upstream OpenStack with Mitaka keystone on my env I've observed very strange caching behaviour | 16:07 |
| rook | DinaBelova: are you tuning the wsgi workers? | 16:07 |
| rook | DinaBelova: Processes/Threads wrt to your keystone work? | 16:07 |
| DinaBelova | rook - my idea was to profile DB/memcached usage for caching of keystone and keystone auth middleware | 16:07 |
| DinaBelova | and compare liberty vs mitaka | 16:07 |
| DinaBelova | as Keystone was observing huge changes during Mitaka timeframe | 16:08 |
| dims | DinaBelova : liberty env was eventlet or Apache? | 16:08 |
| DinaBelova | dims both apache | 16:08 |
| dims | both with same apache configuration? | 16:08 |
| DinaBelova | dims when I was looking on it - yes, but I'll recheck | 16:09 |
| DinaBelova | good idea sir | 16:09 |
| DinaBelova | #action DinaBelova ensure Apache server had the same config for both Liberty and Mitaka envs keystone profiling was done on | 16:09 |
| dims | Dina, which stats to compare? "SELECT Keystone DB queries count" in "User list request stats"? | 16:09 |
| DinaBelova | dims - for human readability please take a look on this change | 16:10 |
| DinaBelova | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299514/ | 16:10 |
| DinaBelova | you can see OSprofiler html reports there | 16:10 |
| DinaBelova | for all 8 topologies I was looking on | 16:10 |
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| dims | DinaBelova : there's a lot in there, which one should we look at first as an example to see difference in behavior between liberty and mitaka | 16:11 |
| DinaBelova | Liberty+Fernet+CacheOff/user_list.html and Mitaka+Fernet+CacheOff/user_list.html | 16:11 |
| DinaBelova | for instance | 16:11 |
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| DinaBelova | behaviour will be common if you'll take a look on any pure keystone operations with different Liberty/Mitaka prefix | 16:12 |
| DinaBelova | so you'll observe the following: on Liberty htmls all cache points are leaved in the requests tree | 16:13 |
| DinaBelova | as I'm doing two identical API calls to keystone one after another | 16:13 |
| DinaBelova | and the second one I'm profiling | 16:13 |
| DinaBelova | and on Mitaka cache point as rarely leaves - in most of the cases taking from cach was not successful | 16:14 |
| dims | DinaBelova : k let's take that. "User list request stats" shows "SELECT Keystone DB queries count" as 56 vs 95 in liberty vs Mitaka. right? | 16:14 |
| DinaBelova | and we're going to the DB | 16:14 |
| DinaBelova | oh, dims I'm sorry | 16:14 |
| DinaBelova | please use CacheOn htmls | 16:15 |
| rook | Was this only with Fernet? | 16:15 |
| DinaBelova | rook - nope, UUID as well | 16:15 |
| DinaBelova | Liberty+Fernet+CacheOn and Mitaka+Fernet+CacheOn for instance << dims | 16:15 |
| dims | ok "SELECT Keystone DB queries count" 26 vs 80 | 16:15 |
| dims | so 56 went down to 26 and 95 went down only to 80 | 16:16 |
| dims | am i reading this right Dina? | 16:16 |
| DinaBelova | yes sir | 16:16 |
| DinaBelova | I was rechecking the numbers | 16:17 |
| DinaBelova | yes | 16:17 |
| DinaBelova | and the htmls in the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299514/1 will show where exactly | 16:17 |
| DinaBelova | I'll add links to them once we'll merge it without making stackalytics crazy | 16:17 |
| dims | DinaBelova : where is the osprofiler output? for say Mitaka+Fernet+CacheOn/user_list.html | 16:18 |
| DinaBelova | dims right now here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299514/1 | 16:18 |
| DinaBelova | you'll need to cherry-pick it locally | 16:18 |
| DinaBelova | and take a look for now | 16:18 |
| DinaBelova | as said, too crazy change to merge it now | 16:18 |
| DinaBelova | dims sorry for inconvinience | 16:19 |
| dims | DinaBelova : no worries, just trying to understand | 16:19 |
| DinaBelova | dims yeah, sure | 16:19 |
| DinaBelova | I may upload them now quickly to the github.io | 16:20 |
| dims | so i can pull down user_list.html to see the calls | 16:20 |
| DinaBelova | yes, sure | 16:20 |
| dims | it's ok no worries will do it in a little bit | 16:20 |
| dims | thanks for the details | 16:20 |
| DinaBelova | with info like what function was chached with what args for instance | 16:20 |
| DinaBelova | dims thank you for the effort anyway | 16:20 |
| rook | based on the output they are both in wsgi (Apache) DinaBelova dims ( my guess they share the same config as well ) | 16:21 |
| dims | DinaBelova : only other thing to ask for would be the logs for each run | 16:21 |
| DinaBelova | my later plan will be to take closer look on this and on the keystone authtoken middleware chaching as well | 16:21 |
| DinaBelova | rook yes, they are under apache | 16:21 |
| DinaBelova | both | 16:21 |
| DinaBelova | dims ack | 16:21 |
| DinaBelova | when I'll be rerunning it, I'll collect the logs | 16:21 |
| dims | perfect | 16:21 |
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| dims | thanks Dina | 16:22 |
| DinaBelova | np | 16:22 |
| DinaBelova | ok, so it looks like we're done with action items :D | 16:22 |
| DinaBelova | #action DinaBelova continue Keystone caching research | 16:22 |
| DinaBelova | going forward if no objections | 16:22 |
| DinaBelova | ok | 16:23 |
| DinaBelova | #topic Test plans statuses | 16:23 |
| DinaBelova | in fact my Keystone stuff was not the only one landed in performance-docs repo this week | 16:23 |
| DinaBelova | ilyashakhat, listomin - please share your progress as well | 16:23 |
| listomin | Hello! | 16:23 |
| listomin | Here you can find results of Cobler: | 16:24 |
| listomin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299516/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299510/ | 16:24 |
| DinaBelova | #info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299516/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299510/ | 16:24 |
| listomin | human readable link http://docs-draft.openstack.org/16/299516/3/check/gate-performance-docs-docs/b3b7d2a//doc/build/html/test_results/provisioning/cobbler/index.html | 16:25 |
| DinaBelova | ok, so that's the results of the provisioning performance - in case if we're using Cobbler | 16:25 |
| DinaBelova | listomin - is that correct? | 16:25 |
| listomin | Right | 16:25 |
| DinaBelova | listomin ack | 16:25 |
| rook | might i suggest adding that detail to the commit? | 16:25 |
| DinaBelova | rook - sure, please review | 16:26 |
| DinaBelova | we have Gerrit exactly for this purpose :) | 16:26 |
| rook | roger, done. | 16:26 |
| DinaBelova | rook ack - listomin please modify a bit commit message, I believe rook 's comments are valid | 16:27 |
| DinaBelova | ok, cool | 16:27 |
| DinaBelova | listomin I'll review you commits, thank you sir | 16:27 |
| DinaBelova | ilyashakhat - are you around? | 16:27 |
| DinaBelova | hm :) | 16:29 |
| ilyashakhat | DinaBelova, what's up? | 16:29 |
| DinaBelova | ilyashakhat any news about test plans results merged after last IRC meeting? | 16:29 |
| ilyashakhat | hm, all RabbitMQ results are merged | 16:29 |
| DinaBelova | ok, cool | 16:30 |
| DinaBelova | am I wrong something was done for the DB as well? | 16:30 |
| ilyashakhat | ZeroMQ are pending, need to re-run them with reduced message generation rate to avoid losses on server | 16:30 |
| DinaBelova | or probably I just mess things up :) | 16:30 |
| ilyashakhat | yes, there are also sysbench results for MySQL + Galera | 16:31 |
| bsilverman | DinaBelova: We've done some scale testing, was wondering if we should bring the results to this group or if it would be better somewhere else? | 16:31 |
| DinaBelova | bsilverman I believe this one :) | 16:31 |
| DinaBelova | please share details about what testing you were doing, what env against and what were the results | 16:32 |
| DinaBelova | this can be done as a first estimation as you'd like, but ideally I think we can use the same pattern performance WG is using | 16:32 |
| DinaBelova | that will be | 16:32 |
| DinaBelova | - publish test plan | 16:32 |
| DinaBelova | - publish env details | 16:32 |
| DinaBelova | - publish the results | 16:32 |
| DinaBelova | all to the https://github.com/openstack/performance-docs | 16:33 |
| DinaBelova | bsilverman - if you feel uncomfortable with this right now, let's create an etherpad as a first approximation | 16:33 |
| bsilverman | DinaBelova: Great, I will get with you offline with any questions. Is there any specific test plan template we have to follow? | 16:33 |
| DinaBelova | bsilverman ack | 16:34 |
| DinaBelova | yes, it is | 16:34 |
| DinaBelova | one moment sir | 16:34 |
| bsilverman | DinaBelova: Sure, the goal of our project is to see how far we can push a single control plane RA. | 16:34 |
| DinaBelova | bsilverman : https://github.com/openstack/performance-docs/blob/master/doc/source/test_plans/template.rst | 16:34 |
| bsilverman | DinaBelova: Thanks. | 16:34 |
| DinaBelova | bsilverman - perfect, thank you sir | 16:35 |
| lezbar__ | DinaBelova: hi, I'm also doing some scale tests with MidoNet, Neutron and OpenStack, and we'll also use the Intel lab for scalability Mirantis is using | 16:35 |
| bsilverman | We'd like to use the scale lab too :) | 16:35 |
| DinaBelova | ahaha :D | 16:35 |
| DinaBelova | all needs to be discussed with gosha :) | 16:35 |
| lezbar__ | we've had a couple of chats with Gosha already, he suggested me to assist to this meeting :-) | 16:35 |
| DinaBelova | lezbar__ sure | 16:36 |
| DinaBelova | in short lezbar__ I'll propose to have the same flow for you sir | 16:36 |
| DinaBelova | publish test plan - publish env details - publish the results | 16:36 |
| lezbar__ | sounds good to me | 16:36 |
| bsilverman | We are working with Gosha, it's early but Jim is on-board. | 16:36 |
| DinaBelova | let's share our experienca and collect feedback | 16:36 |
| DinaBelova | bsilverman ack | 16:37 |
| bsilverman | However, I want to include the results in this group and get feedback/share results so we don't re-invent the wheel. | 16:37 |
| DinaBelova | bsilverman, lezbar__ - thank you guys for pushing your tests against this community effort | 16:37 |
| DinaBelova | bsilverman + | 16:37 |
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| DinaBelova | ok, cool | 16:38 |
| lezbar__ | I have the same question as rook had, is there going to be any performance team meetup at the summit? | 16:38 |
| DinaBelova | lezbar__, rook in short we're going to have working group session | 16:38 |
| DinaBelova | as well as probably some time in oslo space - harlowja ? | 16:38 |
| lezbar__ | sorry DinaBelova, when is the working group session scheduled? | 16:39 |
| rook | DinaBelova where will this working group session be held? | 16:39 |
| DinaBelova | lezbar__ rook - and, sure, we can conquer some table and have free form discussion ther anyway :) | 16:39 |
| rook | ok | 16:39 |
| DinaBelova | moment, folks | 16:39 |
| bsilverman | Make sure it doesn't conflict with any of my talks :) | 16:40 |
| harlowja | DinaBelova i'm working through the schedules but possibly :) | 16:40 |
| DinaBelova | harlowja ack | 16:40 |
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| harlowja | if not a direct oslo space/time, we can all get dinner together or something :-P | 16:40 |
| DinaBelova | rook lezbar__ https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/7399?goback=1 | 16:40 |
| DinaBelova | #info summit WG session https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/7399?goback=1 | 16:40 |
| rook | DinaBelova++ | 16:40 |
| rook | thanks | 16:40 |
| DinaBelova | harlowja - that's always a solution :) | 16:40 |
| DinaBelova | rook you're welcome | 16:41 |
| lezbar__ | DinaBelova: thanks! | 16:41 |
| bsilverman | DinaBelova: Nice! | 16:41 |
| rook | harlowja yup, dinner and drinks also sounds good | 16:41 |
| harlowja | ya, meetings after the meetings :-P | 16:41 |
| DinaBelova | :D | 16:41 |
| harlowja | summit-dinner-and-drinks-meeting(s) (not on the schedules), lol | 16:41 |
| DinaBelova | in case of summits in general and Austin summit in particular that is going to be part after party after party :) | 16:41 |
| harlowja | after after party? | 16:42 |
| harlowja | woah | 16:42 |
| harlowja | lol | 16:42 |
| DinaBelova | indeed sir :) | 16:42 |
| * rook prepares liver now. | 16:42 | |
| harlowja | lol | 16:42 |
| DinaBelova | anyway, it looks like we may jump into the next section | 16:42 |
| rohanion | ehehe | 16:42 |
| DinaBelova | a-haha | 16:42 |
| DinaBelova | #topic OSProfiler weekly update | 16:42 |
| DinaBelova | rohanion a-ha! | 16:42 |
| DinaBelova | I see you sir :) | 16:42 |
| rohanion | oops | 16:42 |
| DinaBelova | :D | 16:42 |
| bsilverman | Ain't no party like a performance party cause a performance party don't stop! | 16:42 |
| rohanion | caught in the middle | 16:42 |
| DinaBelova | rohanion - updates about drivers? | 16:43 |
| rohanion | sure | 16:43 |
| rohanion | I've deprecated the Notifier class from osprofiler | 16:43 |
| DinaBelova | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247005/ | 16:44 |
| rohanion | osprofiler notifiers are switched to our new architecture | 16:44 |
| rohanion | they use Driver class instead | 16:44 |
| DinaBelova | any chance you checked them already? | 16:44 |
| rohanion | yes, I've run cinder --profile with my changes | 16:44 |
| rohanion | it's working | 16:44 |
| DinaBelova | ack, cool | 16:44 |
| DinaBelova | #action DinaBelova harlowja boris-42 review latest rohanion's changes to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247005/ | 16:45 |
| DinaBelova | rohanion thank you sir | 16:45 |
| DinaBelova | also i have small update from the OPW | 16:45 |
| rohanion | thank you | 16:45 |
| DinaBelova | mentors began to vote for the candidates | 16:45 |
| DinaBelova | one of them - buttercup - is wishing to work on OSprofiler next round | 16:46 |
| rohanion | I've talked to her - she's cool | 16:46 |
| DinaBelova | let's see if she'll gain the slot, but I'm pushing her :) | 16:46 |
| DinaBelova | rohanion indeed | 16:46 |
| DinaBelova | very nice possible contributor for sure :) | 16:46 |
| DinaBelova | so let's hope she'll be able to join us | 16:46 |
| rohanion | she'll probably work with elastic and json files if she succeeds | 16:47 |
| DinaBelova | rohanion ack | 16:47 |
| DinaBelova | it looks like that's all updates about profiler for now | 16:47 |
| DinaBelova | #topic Open Discussion | 16:47 |
| harlowja | woot, put on my todo lists | 16:47 |
| rohanion | I've seen her patches in Ironic and she's familiar with json | 16:47 |
| harlowja | i got to many todo(s) | 16:47 |
| DinaBelova | harlowja you're not the only one :D | 16:48 |
| harlowja | :) | 16:48 |
| DinaBelova | I wanted to discuss briefly summit stuff, but we did it during the meeting | 16:48 |
| DinaBelova | so let's sum up | 16:48 |
| rohanion | therefore she doesn't need to know how actually does elasticsearch work, she'll have to dump all our output to json | 16:48 |
| rohanion | a perfect job for an intern afaik | 16:48 |
| rook | I did not add my item, however, my team is working on a project called Browbeat to combine best of breed performance and scale tools. | 16:48 |
| DinaBelova | #info [Summit][Austin] we're going to have WG session https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/7399?goback=1 + possible some oslo space if harlowja will be kind :) | 16:49 |
| DinaBelova | rook - it's very interesting, btw | 16:49 |
| rook | rohanion what I have found is we have to manipulate the data a bit to have elasticsearch work -- well.... if you want to use Kibana to viz it. | 16:49 |
| DinaBelova | I saw you had a brief conversation with boris-42 | 16:49 |
| DinaBelova | rook - that's true | 16:49 |
| rook | yeah, i can't seem to get on the same time as him... he is still in Ru time? | 16:49 |
| rohanion | what about plain graphite? | 16:50 |
| DinaBelova | rook he's in PST, but lots of stuff to do this week | 16:50 |
| rook | Elastic -> Graphite? | 16:50 |
| rohanion | Kibana -> Graphite | 16:50 |
| DinaBelova | rook - possibly that's the reason | 16:50 |
| rook | DinaBelova: ah, ok did he move to SJ? | 16:50 |
| rohanion | Kibana cannot use logarithmic scales | 16:50 |
| DinaBelova | rook afair yes | 16:50 |
| rook | rohanion I havent tried to viz elastic data w/ Graphite... Just timeseries. | 16:51 |
| rook | and for the most part we found that Grafana works better with timeseries viz. | 16:51 |
| rohanion | yes | 16:51 |
| rohanion | indeed it does | 16:51 |
| * bsilverman needs to run to another meeting, DinaBelova , I will ping you a little later to work on getting setup with the test plans and sharing. | 16:51 | |
| DinaBelova | rook rohanion - that's all discussible, although I have a probably crazy dream to have all needed stuff encapsulated in one tool - for now the best candidate for this is rally and what I see from their roadmap they are moving the the right direction | 16:52 |
| DinaBelova | bsilverman ack | 16:52 |
| rook | anyhoo... for people interested in browbeat : https://github.com/jtaleric/browbeat | 16:52 |
| DinaBelova | #link https://github.com/jtaleric/browbeat | 16:52 |
| rook | it stands up the infra to capture data -- it also runs Rally / Shaker / PerfKit benchmarks | 16:52 |
| rohanion | yes, that's probably a topic for next discussions | 16:52 |
| rook | DinaBelova yeah agreed one tool to rule them all :) | 16:53 |
| DinaBelova | rook - thanks, I'll try to have a deep dive asap | 16:53 |
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| DinaBelova | rook - because in case if we want to reach this one-tool-perferct-future we need to start thinking now :) | 16:53 |
| DinaBelova | anyway, that's all from my side | 16:53 |
| DinaBelova | anything specific, folks? | 16:53 |
| rook | Agreed... That is what we are trying to build with Browbeat :) | 16:53 |
| rohanion | one tool to parse them all and in Kibana bind them | 16:53 |
| rook | yup push all the metrics! | 16:53 |
| DinaBelova | :D | 16:54 |
| DinaBelova | ok, if nothing specific -thank you folks for taking part in meeting :) | 16:54 |
| DinaBelova | special thanks to first-time attendees :) | 16:54 |
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| harlowja | browbeat, intersting | 16:54 |
| harlowja | beat your brow? | 16:54 |
| harlowja | eyebrow? | 16:54 |
| rohanion | loooool | 16:54 |
| DinaBelova | harlowja - you always make nice jokes close to the meeting end :) | 16:54 |
| rohanion | nice band name btw | 16:54 |
| harlowja | (do not try at home) | 16:54 |
| harlowja | ;) | 16:55 |
| lezbar__ | bye o/ | 16:55 |
| DinaBelova | bye \o | 16:55 |
| DinaBelova | #endmeeting | 16:55 |
| rohanion | cya o/ | 16:55 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 5 16:55:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/performance_team/2016/performance_team.2016-04-05-16.00.html | 16:55 |
| harlowja | \o/ | 16:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/performance_team/2016/performance_team.2016-04-05-16.00.txt | 16:55 |
| harlowja | lol | 16:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/performance_team/2016/performance_team.2016-04-05-16.00.log.html | 16:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Leontii Istomin proposed openstack/performance-docs: Add raw results for Cobbler results. https://review.openstack.org/299516 | 17:46 |
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| boris-42 | harlowja: ping | 23:59 |
| harlowja | boris-42 whats up | 23:59 |
| harlowja | u alive? | 23:59 |
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