Wednesday, 2018-07-04

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vkmco/13:01
lxkong:-)13:01
vkmc!start-meeting Outreachy midterm13:01
openstackvkmc: Error: "start-meeting" is not a valid command.13:01
vkmchmm13:02
vkmc#startmeeting Outreachy midterm13:02
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul  4 13:02:16 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is vkmc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:02
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Outreachy midterm)"13:02
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'outreachy_midterm'13:02
vkmctroubles of being user of several meeting bots13:02
vkmc#topic roll call13:02
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vkmcwho is here for the outreachy meeting? :)13:02
vkmco/13:02
ajya\o13:02
sasha_jitsuHi!13:02
lxkonghi13:03
vkmc#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-outreachy-midterm-may-aug-201813:03
vkmcI created a short agenda to guide this meeting13:03
vkmcconsidering that not everybody will be able to join today, hopefully we can share updates in that etherpad and then catch up with the ones that couldn't make it today13:04
vkmcand... in order to give you some more time for work on your presentation, I'll move the organizers introduction on the top13:05
vkmcwe can do interns and mentors then13:05
vkmc#link outreachy openstack organizers introduction13:05
vkmc#topic outreachy openstack organizers introduction13:05
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vkmcthere13:05
vkmchey everybody13:05
Ne_Hello Everybody! I am Neerja interning for OpenStack -Qinling with the guidance of my mentor Lingxian13:06
vkmcI'm Victoria, I'm a software engineer at Red Hat currently focused on the Manila project13:06
vkmcI've joined Outreachy (former Outreach Program for Women) in 2013 and that's how I started working at OpenStack13:06
vkmcI'm currently one of the coordinators for Outreachy OpenStack13:07
vkmcmahatic, are you around for any chance=?13:07
vkmcseems not13:08
vkmcok, mahatic is also coordinator for Outreachy13:08
vkmcand hopefully she will introduce herself next time around13:08
vkmcnow...13:09
vkmc#topic outreachy openstack interns introduction13:09
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vkmcNe_, do you want to start? already shared something about you :)13:09
Ne_Sure!13:10
vkmcNe_, ?13:12
lxkongmaybe she is typing...13:12
vkmcyes13:12
Ne_I am currently a student at UT, Arlington and I am focused on giving back to the Open source community! Currently I am working on the Qinling project which is a serverless computer service for OpenStack . I am now focused on creating a python guide for Qinling! It's been great and exciting so far due to my mentor who has always supported me and clarified all the small doubts which I had.13:13
Ne_They say it's very important to get a good mentor in your career to kick start your career and I'm very happy to say I have got one :)13:13
Ne_Yes, I was indeed typing!13:13
Ne_:)13:13
vkmcawesome!13:14
lxkong:-)13:14
vkmcI agree is very important to get a good mentor13:14
vkmchappy to hear you have one!13:14
lxkongI agree i am not a bad mentor13:14
vkmchaha13:15
vkmcNe_, how things have be gone so far?13:15
Ne_Yes, a great one infact!13:15
vkmccould you get in touch with the rest of the Qinling community?13:16
Ne_So far its going good! I have to provide a patch reviewed by the other Qinling members other than my mentor. Qinling is a growing community and I would take time to interact with them.13:18
vkmcNe_, all right13:18
vkmcdoes qinling have a irc channel?13:18
vkmcperhaps #openstack-qinling?13:18
lxkongsure, #openstack-qinling13:18
vkmcsuper13:19
vkmcwell, it's great to start in a project like this... gives more space to learn new things and to make better contributions13:19
Ne_I started my Internship a lil late than other members due to my school's policy's but I am definitely catching up! Yes, its openstack-qinling13:19
vkmcI started contributing to marconi (nowadays the zaqar project) and certainly there was a lot of room for changes13:20
vkmc(and therefore, learning)13:20
vkmcwell, thanks Ne_!13:20
vkmcit's good to hear from you13:20
vkmcnext in the etherpad we have Aleksandra13:21
vkmcnot sure about her irc handle :)13:21
vkmcis she around?13:21
sasha_jitsuyep13:22
vkmcsasha_jitsu, o/13:22
sasha_jitsuHi! My name is Sasha, I live in Moscow. I graduated from Saratov University with a degree in Information Security Specialist in 2014 but I have never worked in IT. In the past, I am a professional coach in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Now I'm practicing combat sport at the amateur level. In my hometown of Saratov, I created a Brazilian Jiu club, which exists and is still developing. I am also an LGBT and a femme activist,13:23
sasha_jitsuhelping my friend develop a combat sports club for LGBT and women in Moscow.Now I decided to return to IT, because I was always interested in this industry, after the university, I learned a python myself, studied machine learning.13:23
sasha_jitsuMy mentor is Dmitry Tantsur and Ilya Etingof. I'm working on redfish project. I do unit tests and  virtual media API for sushy.13:23
vkmcwow, that's so awesome!13:24
sasha_jitsuI got sick half of June and a little behind the schedule, but I hope that everything will be fine13:24
vkmcoh, hope you are doing better13:24
vkmccould you tell us a bit more about redfish and sushy?13:24
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sasha_jitsuall I typed did not go, i have any problem with internet13:29
vkmcsasha_jitsu, no worries13:29
vkmcwhile you type, next in the agenda is Aija13:31
vkmcajya, around?13:31
ajyahi, I'm here13:31
vkmchey :)13:31
vkmcwant to introduce yourself?13:32
ajyaI'm working on the same project with the same mentors as sasha_jitsu, so I will skip the part about the project13:32
ajyamyself I'm a software engineer for a while, mainly worked on enterprise software in c#, java. Got myself between countries and jobs and decided to apply for Outreachy, I always wanted to do this, but leaving job for this did not seem a good idea :)13:33
ajyaso far I like this, learning a lot of new things as Redfish and Ironic is in domain I have never worked before, usually I was working on information systems in education, HR etc.13:34
vkmcthat's a big change13:34
vkmchow is that you got interested in the redfish project?13:35
vkmcsame for sasha_jitsu ^13:35
vkmcand... have you met with the rest of the community for your project?13:36
vkmcdo you use the #openstack-ironic channel or is there another one?13:36
ajyawanted something completely new, I was looking at linux kernel project but that would be too much for now to learn as it was in C instead of Python13:36
ajyayeah, I'm hanging around in #openstack-ironic channel, mostly in read-only mode but I got help when I needed13:37
vkmcok super13:37
vkmcit's always a great idea to ask for help when you hit a blocker... make sure to ask good questions and to share context (using tools like paste.openstack.org for long logs, or etherpad.openstack.org for collaborating docs)13:38
vkmcalso it's very cool (and you can learn a lot) by helping other people if you see you can13:39
vkmcand helping with smaller tasks (such as fixing a wiki, doing small reviews)13:39
sasha_jitsuRedfish is a new protocol that replaces the  IPMI. It allows you to administer virtual resources using JSON schemes13:39
vkmcnice13:41
vkmcthanks for the explanation :D13:41
vkmcok, it's very nice to meet you too!13:41
vkmce-meet*13:41
vkmchopefully we will meet someday13:41
vkmcok... next in the etherpad we have Fatema13:42
vkmcbut I'm not sure if she is around13:42
vkmchmm, I don't see any irc handle that seems related13:43
vkmcah well13:43
vkmcmoving along then13:43
vkmc#topic outreachy openstack mentors introduction13:43
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vkmcwe only have two mentors today in this room13:43
vkmclxkong, o/13:43
vkmcwant to introduce yourself first?13:44
lxkongaha ok13:44
lxkongHi, My name is Lingxian Kong, my inern is Neerja.13:44
lxkongI'm currently I am working at Catalyst Cloud in New Zealand as a senior cloud computing engineer13:44
* dtantsur will ping etingof meanwhile13:44
lxkongI have been contributing to OpenStack for almost 5 years. Now I'm serving as the PTL of Qinling, which is a function-as-a-service project in OpenStack13:44
sasha_jitsuSorry, not Redfish. Sushy and sushy tools which is an adapter for Redfish, as far as I understand13:45
lxkongBesides OpenStack, I'm also an active contributor to cloud-provider-openstack for Kubernetes, my focus area in Kubernetes community is the integration with OpenStack, making it easily to consume OpenStack resources for the application running inside k8s.13:45
lxkongFor the people who are new to open source projects, my suggestion is to try to be the user of the project before actually looking into the implementation details,13:46
lxkong install it, use it, debug it, fix it, and have fun with it13:46
lxkongi think that's all i want to share with you :-)13:46
lxkongvkmc: ^^13:46
vkmclxkong, thanks!13:47
vkmcit's good to finally chat with you13:47
lxkongvkmc: me too13:47
vkmcI know a few people from Catalyst :)13:47
lxkongyeah, Feilong I guess13:48
vkmcyes, Zaqar PTL nowadays13:48
lxkongyeah, we work together13:48
vkmcawesome!13:48
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vkmcand I was trying to learn a bit about the cloud-provider-openstack for k8s13:49
vkmcgood to know you are involved in that project... I might ping you later heh13:49
lxkongsure, any time13:49
* dtantsur waves at etingof13:49
lxkongi think manila integration is also a part of it13:49
vkmclxkong, exactly!13:49
etingofo/13:50
vkmcall right13:50
vkmcmoving along, so maybe we can freely chat later13:50
vkmcwe have etingof as well in the room now13:50
vkmcthanks dtantsur for the pings!13:50
dtantsur:)13:50
vkmcdtantsur, want to introduce yourself?13:50
dtantsursure13:50
dtantsurhi all! I'm Dmitry, I've been working on OpenStack Ironic for 4+ years (I think).13:51
dtantsurI was born in Russia (near Moscow), moved to Czech Republic in 2014 to work for Red Hat, moved to Berlin last year13:51
dtantsuralso involved in TripleO and API SIG13:52
dtantsuralso writing an openstack SDK in Rust in my spare time. and playing bass :)13:52
dtantsurtogether with Ilya we're helping sasha_jitsu and ajya work on redfish13:53
dtantsuror rather, it's python implementation - sushy (yes, with Y in the end :)13:53
dtantsurcome to the openstack summit in Berlin this autumn ;)13:53
dtantsurI guess that's me. questions? :)13:53
vkmcniceeee13:54
dtantsursome folks may remember me as a PTL for ironic in Pike and Queens13:54
vkmcyes, I'm one of those folks13:54
dtantsur:)13:55
vkmcI don't know many people in Ironic but certainly I knew about you13:55
vkmcthat's awesome, it's good to meet you too!13:55
dtantsuryeah, great to meet you too13:55
vkmcetingof, want to say a few words about you?13:55
etingofHi all! I am Ilya, I work on OpenStack Ironic for 1 year. Prior to that I worked at RedHat security team herding hackers.13:57
etingofOther than that I maintain a handful of open source projects (at GitHub) just for fun. An I play piano ;)13:57
* dtantsur did not know about the piano bit, nice!13:58
etingoftogether with dtantsur we're helping sasha_jitsu and ajya work on sushy13:58
vkmceverybody is so talented here :)13:58
etingofI think that's it for me ;)13:58
vkmcall right, thanks for the intro13:58
vkmcfinally we have diablo_rojo_phon, but she is either sleeping (very early for her!) or celebrating 4th of July13:59
vkmcso we might get her updates on email later13:59
vkmcso, I'll start a very brief open discussion13:59
vkmc#topic outreachy openstack open discussion13:59
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vkmcso... I wanted to have this meeting so we could know a few things about each other and encourage participation for everybody in this internships round14:00
vkmcirc is always the best way to communicate in openstack14:00
vkmcand I want you to know that anything you need, you can reach everybody in this channel14:01
vkmcon other comments, as dtantsur mentioned, there is a community event (you can apply for a travel support grant to participate) happening in November in Berlin14:01
vkmcit's called the OpenStack Summit14:01
vkmc#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/14:01
vkmcthe call for papers is open, so if you think you can participate with a talk, you are encouraged to do it14:02
vkmcping me or your mentors and we can brainstorm a bit14:02
dtantsur++14:02
vkmcand/or*14:02
vkmcwe are overtime but... comments? questions?14:03
vkmcsorry for all the changes at very last minute with this meeting14:03
etingofdo we have a whiteboard or a wiki may be?14:03
etingofwhere all the news and important links are maintained14:03
vkmcfor this meeting in particular we have this etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-outreachy-midterm-may-aug-201814:03
etingoffor instance I did not know about this channel14:04
vkmcand we have this weeky for the internship in particular14:04
* dtantsur proposes a face-to-face meetup in Berlin :D14:04
vkmcetingof, that's bad to hear... we probably need to be more clear about this in the future14:04
vkmcdtantsur++14:04
ajyayeah, I did not know about this channel too14:04
vkmcetingof, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Outreachy14:04
vkmc#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Outreachy14:05
etingofis it 404?14:05
Ne_Thank you vkmc for arranging this meeting! It would be great for us interns to know from the mentors and yourself --" What do you see as your best skill, and how did you learn it?" It would be help for newbies like us in the industry14:05
etingofor is it just empty?14:05
lxkongno i can access14:05
vkmcetingof, works for me...?14:05
dtantsurthe channel is only mentioned once in the wiki14:05
dtantsursomewhere in the middle. we should probably make it more prominent indeed14:05
* dtantsur is also in the "did not know" camp14:06
vkmcdtantsur, maybe we can make a landing page as we have for projects14:06
* vkmc takes notes 14:06
dtantsurNe_: the best skill is listening to people (it may be harder than it seems). especially in open source, there are a lot of inputs, you have to balance all them.14:06
etingofvkmc I am thinking it would be awesome if the participants would have a shared *editable* space for organizational matters like this IRC channel14:07
vkmcNe_, good to hear that this was a good meeting for you! and... in response to your query, my best skill is communication, and I think I learned it by seeing how the openstack community works... it was kinda hard at first, but I'm quite comfortable now14:08
etingofdtantsur, +114:08
vkmcmy mentor, jpich, pointed me to http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#uselists14:09
vkmc#link http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#uselists14:09
vkmcgood reading :)14:09
Ne_Thank you dtantsur, vkmc and etingof, these are indeed true :)14:09
vkmcetingof, great idea!14:09
vkmcall right14:09
vkmcfeel free to use this channel to bring up subjects... if people is not responsive, ping them14:10
vkmc(always with some context, it is worth mentioning the concept of naked ping in https://blogs.gnome.org/markmc/2014/02/20/naked-pings/)14:10
vkmcwe are here for you14:10
etingofvkmc, ping! I've invited you to participate in the summit talk ;-)14:11
vkmcif we don't get right away, is because timezones... always blame timezones14:11
vkmcetingof, yes, I'm get back to that after this meeting :D14:11
dtantsurwe should have mentioned our timezones..14:11
etingofthank you!14:11
vkmcs/I'm get back/I'll get back/g14:11
dtantsurmine is UTC+1/+214:11
vkmcthanks for the invite btw14:11
vkmcmine is UTC-314:11
vkmcdarn timezones14:12
lxkongUTC+12 here, so it's very early morning14:12
dtantsuroh yeah14:12
dtantsurlxkong: does it even count as morning? :)14:12
lxkonghah, 02:13AM14:12
* dtantsur considers it night before 7am14:12
vkmclxkong, whaaat14:12
* lxkong really needs some sleep14:13
vkmcomg14:13
vkmcgo to sleep14:13
vkmchaha14:13
Ne_omg14:13
* etingof is guessing that vkmc probably resides in Greenland ;)14:13
vkmcall right, let's call this a meeting, but feel free to stay here chatting a bit more14:13
vkmc#endmeeting14:13
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lxkongvkmc: thanks14:13
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vkmcetingof, no, I'm based in Buenos Aires, Argentina14:13
vkmc:D14:13
dtantsurwork-from-greenland, nice :D14:13
vkmcgreenland sounds so nice14:14
etingofit just sounds so14:14
dtantsurI should totally try it. do they have good internet?14:14
vkmcI think so14:14
dtantsurthough in Greenland a BEAR metal may deploy YOU...14:15
vkmcwe need to organize a PTG up there14:15
etingofthey definitely do not have traffic jams14:15
vkmclol14:15
etingofwith total population around 50000 people14:15
vkmcdtantsur, the coat of arms of greenland is a really angry bear14:16
vkmclxkong, thanks for joining :)14:16
dtantsurafter the success of Dublin we certainly need to pick a more remote island with more snow :D14:16
dtantsurSnowpenstack 2.014:17
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vkmcdtantsur, some place that is actually *ready* for snow14:17
dtantsurI can suggest a few *amazing* cities in Russia that are well prepared for snow :D14:18
vkmcI don't think we can survive beer outage again14:18
vkmcI want to go to Russia so badly14:18
dtantsurvkmc: do you need a visa? if not, it's just a looooong flight (and be prepared for anything)14:19
* dtantsur -> tea14:19
vkmcdtantsur, not sure about the visa... I'm used to long flights though14:19
vkmcajya, sasha_jitsu, Ne_, ping me if you need anything, happy to finally meet you on IRC!14:21
vkmcfeel free to lurk in this channel14:21
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ajyavkmc, thanks for organizing this14:22
ajyamy time zone is UTC+2/+314:22
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