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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cookiecutter master: Update the minversion parameter. https://review.opendev.org/707397 | 09:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/oslo.serialization master: Drop use of six https://review.opendev.org/710300 | 10:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.vmware master: Drop use of six https://review.opendev.org/710741 | 11:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.vmware master: Ensure lease polling raises proper exception https://review.opendev.org/706150 | 11:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tooz master: Avoid redis lock's expire_time exceeding timeout. https://review.opendev.org/649629 | 11:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.vmware master: Add ability to change read chunk size https://review.opendev.org/705828 | 11:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/debtcollector master: Update the minversion parameter. https://review.opendev.org/707852 | 11:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.utils stable/train: Fix regex to correctly recognize scientific notation with QemuImgInfo https://review.opendev.org/710016 | 11:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ann Taraday proposed openstack/taskflow master: Parse ssl config options passed to Kazoo client https://review.opendev.org/710764 | 13:03 |
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| hberaud | smcginnis: o/ here is a fix backport on stable/stein, please can you take a look, thanks => https://review.opendev.org/#/c/710017/ | 13:39 |
| hberaud | smcginnis: (already merged on master and stable/train) | 13:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.vmware master: Drop use of six https://review.opendev.org/710741 | 13:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.vmware master: Drop use of six https://review.opendev.org/710741 | 13:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.limit master: drop use of six https://review.opendev.org/710775 | 13:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.limit master: ignore reno generated artifacts https://review.opendev.org/710777 | 14:01 |
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| smcginnis | hberaud: Looking... | 14:24 |
| hberaud | smcginnis: thx | 14:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.log master: drop use of six https://review.opendev.org/710791 | 14:54 |
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| bnemec | #startmeeting oslo | 15:00 |
| bnemec | Courtesy ping for bnemec, jungleboyj, moguimar, hberaud, stephenfin, kgiusti, johnsom, e0ne, redrobot, bcafarel | 15:00 |
| bnemec | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 2 15:00:49 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 15:00 |
| hberaud | o/ | 15:00 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 15:01 |
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| bcafarel | o/ | 15:01 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:01 |
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| ansmith | o/ | 15:02 |
| johnsom | o/ | 15:03 |
| moguimar | o/ | 15:04 |
| bnemec | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:05 | |
| bnemec | The only thing I can think of from our side is a new version of oslotest that drops the stestr requirement. | 15:06 |
| bnemec | I think everyone was already explicitly depending on it anyway, but if you suddenly have test jobs failing due to missing stestr that could be why. | 15:07 |
| moguimar | no flags from Barbican | 15:07 |
| bnemec | It also drops support for py2 and some mox stuff that is no longer used. | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | \o/ | 15:08 |
| johnsom | Nothing from the Octavia team | 15:09 |
| jungleboyj | Nothing from Cinder. Sorry. Got distracted. | 15:09 |
| bnemec | No worries. I got pinged right after I started the meeting too. :-) | 15:10 |
| bnemec | #topic Releases | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:10 | |
| bnemec | Business as usual. I'm probably overdue to look at the stable branches too. Hopefully I'll get to that this week. | 15:11 |
| bnemec | #topic Action items from last meeting | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:12 | |
| bnemec | "bnemec send email about Oslo meeting time" | 15:12 |
| bnemec | Done | 15:12 |
| bnemec | "moguimar send email about moving oslo.cache to a different memcached library" | 15:12 |
| moguimar | done | 15:12 |
| bnemec | I believe I saw that one too. | 15:12 |
| moguimar | but no answers so far | 15:12 |
| bnemec | moguimar: Cool, thanks. | 15:12 |
| bnemec | :-/ | 15:12 |
| moguimar | people don't like security? | 15:12 |
| moguimar | xD | 15:12 |
| bnemec | Not usually. :-) | 15:13 |
| bnemec | That was all our action items. | 15:14 |
| bnemec | #topic Cycle highlights | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cycle highlights (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:14 | |
| bnemec | We are rapidly approaching the end of the cycle, so that means it's cycle highlights time. | 15:14 |
| bnemec | This is basically a marketing exercise, so if there's anything we did this cycle that OpenStack users/operators might be interested in please send it to me. | 15:15 |
| moguimar | drop of python27? | 15:15 |
| bnemec | I haven't really thought about it yet, so I'm not sure if I'll come up with anything. | 15:15 |
| bnemec | I'm thinking that one will probably be an overall highlight? I'm not sure every project needs to call it out explicitly. | 15:16 |
| hberaud | I think too | 15:16 |
| bnemec | Although I guess it may have been a bit more of a task for us due to the number of projects in Oslo. | 15:17 |
| bnemec | FWIW, we don't _need_ to have cycle highlights. We frequently don't because so much of Oslo is developer-facing and not that marketable. :-) | 15:17 |
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| hberaud | could be redundante to speak about the drop in oslo highlight... | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | Remember that highlights are by team, not by deliverable. | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | So only need to mention dropping py2 support once. | 15:18 |
| bnemec | I think the only time we've done cycle highlights during my tenure was this: https://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/master/deliverables/stein/oslo.config.yaml#L9 | 15:19 |
| bnemec | #topic Weekly Wayward Review | 15:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Weekly Wayward Review (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:22 | |
| bnemec | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689482/ | 15:22 |
| bnemec | I see that one has feedback from us, but no votes. Maybe we should just -1 it if we're don't want to merge it as-is so it's clear something needs to be done? | 15:23 |
| hberaud | why not | 15:25 |
| hberaud | I could drop my +1 for now | 15:25 |
| hberaud | I leave a comment and -1 | 15:26 |
| bnemec | I think I might be with stephenfin on just dropping the log. If a user asks us to remove a file and at the end of execution the file does not exist then our job is done. | 15:26 |
| bnemec | I guess we could leave it at debug in case someone is trying to track down an issue, but info level is probably too high for this anyway. | 15:27 |
| hberaud | I agree | 15:30 |
| bnemec | Oh, I have another thought about that one. I'll chase it more after the meeting though. Will comment on the review if it pans out. | 15:30 |
| bnemec | #action bnemec to follow up on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689482/ | 15:30 |
| hberaud | ack | 15:30 |
| bnemec | Okay, we've made some progress on that one. Thanks, hberaud. | 15:31 |
| bnemec | #topic Open discussion | 15:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:31 | |
| bnemec | Anything else this week? | 15:31 |
| hberaud | nothing for me | 15:32 |
| moguimar | none on my end | 15:33 |
| bnemec | Okay, let's call it a meeting then. Thanks for joining, everyone! | 15:34 |
| bnemec | #endmeeting | 15:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Common Libraries | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo" | 15:34 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 2 15:34:18 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2020/oslo.2020-03-02-15.00.html | 15:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2020/oslo.2020-03-02-15.00.txt | 15:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2020/oslo.2020-03-02-15.00.log.html | 15:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Bengtsson proposed openstack/oslo.service master: Update eventlet. https://review.opendev.org/710798 | 15:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack/tooz master: Remove protocol option from etcd3gw docs https://review.opendev.org/710801 | 15:41 |
| hberaud | bnemec: do you think it could be an issue to have 2 requirements not aligned for eventlet between oslo.utils and oslo.service? => https://github.com/openstack/oslo.utils/blob/master/test-requirements.txt#L7 https://github.com/openstack/oslo.service/blob/master/requirements.txt#L7 | 15:42 |
| hberaud | bnemec: one for testing and the other for execution | 15:43 |
| bnemec | Without even looking that sounds bad. | 15:43 |
| hberaud | bnemec: where oslo.utils is in use in oslo.service | 15:43 |
| hberaud | bnemec: not fan too... | 15:44 |
| bnemec | Oh, but that's across repos. That's probably fine. One project may require newer eventlet than another. | 15:44 |
| hberaud | bnemec: yep it's across repo | 15:44 |
| bnemec | Also, those actually have the same minimum. The order is different though so it's a little confusing. | 15:46 |
| bnemec | oslo.service is missing some blacklisted versions though. :-/ | 15:47 |
| hberaud | however oslo.utils's eventutils is a generalist module around eventlet whitout special treatments or specific things, so I think it's not so bad on oslo.utils side | 15:49 |
| hberaud | bnemec: ah right, good point | 15:49 |
| hberaud | bnemec: anyway I think it could be worth to align them to avoid confusing and ignore blacklisted versions | 15:50 |
| hberaud | bnemec: thx | 15:50 |
| bnemec | hberaud: It does seem prudent to pull in all the eventlet blacklists: https://opendev.org/openstack/requirements/src/branch/master/global-requirements.txt#L66 | 15:51 |
| bnemec | Looks like neither library has all of them. | 15:51 |
| bnemec | So much broken-ness in eventlet...:-/ | 15:52 |
| hberaud | bnemec: eventlet is an hot topic... | 15:54 |
| bnemec | Hot as in kill-it-with-fire. :-D | 15:54 |
| hberaud | bnemec: lol right | 15:55 |
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| hberaud | now that we are full py3 what do you think about moving to asyncio? | 15:56 |
| hberaud | bnemec: it could be a way to move away from eventlet and reintroduce native python in place | 15:57 |
| hberaud | bnemec: with more support from the cpython community | 15:57 |
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| hberaud | bnemec: I miss history on that topic | 15:59 |
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| bnemec | We've discussed moving to asyncio in the past. The problem is it would be an enormous effort that would involve almost every project and would likely introduce lots of concurrency bugs due to eventlet assumptions in our existing code. | 16:00 |
| bnemec | There are projects that have removed eventlet though. I think Keystone is eventlet-free now. I'm pretty sure there are others too. | 16:01 |
| hberaud | ah right I missed the "side effect" effect | 16:01 |
| hberaud | yep it could be a huge amount of work to done this task... | 16:03 |
| hberaud | I also seen some efforts on the nova side to reduce eventlet usages, but it's still there... | 16:04 |
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| bnemec | Yeah, I think one of the concerns was also having some projects not get migrated and having to learn multiple async libraries, but since that kind of happened anyway I'm not sure it's as big a concern now. | 16:07 |
| hberaud | also we could try to support the both in parallel by introducing a new asyncio module in oslo.service, allow services to migrate smoothly, observe side effects and fix them, and then drop the eventlet part | 16:07 |
| bnemec | I think cotyledon was a non-eventlet replacement for oslo.service: https://github.com/sileht/cotyledon | 16:08 |
| hberaud | Yep I think you are right, I discussed a little but about cotyledon with vstinner in the past but I don't have a deep knowledge of this one | 16:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alan Bishop proposed openstack/tooz master: Add TLS support in etcd3 and etcd3gw drivers https://review.opendev.org/710539 | 21:15 |
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