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| openstackgerrit | Nick Maludy proposed openstack/tooz master: Adds heartbeating to the consul driver. https://review.opendev.org/707681 | 14:34 |
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| bnemec | Meeting running long again. Will start the Oslo meeting ASAP. | 15:04 |
| bnemec | #startmeeting oslo | 15:10 |
| bnemec | Courtesy ping for bnemec, jungleboyj, moguimar, hberaud, stephenfin, kgiusti, johnsom, e0ne, redrobot, bcafarel | 15:10 |
| bnemec | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 15:10 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 24 15:10:44 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:10 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 15:10 |
| hberaud | o/ | 15:10 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 15:10 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:11 |
| johnsom | o/ | 15:11 |
| moguimar | o/ (partialy) | 15:11 |
| stephenfin | o/ | 15:11 |
| ansmith | o/ | 15:12 |
| kgiusti | kgiusti: o/ (must leave early for call) | 15:13 |
| bnemec | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:13 | |
| johnsom | Nothing from Octavia | 15:13 |
| jungleboyj | Nothing from Cinder. | 15:13 |
| bnemec | The thing we were discussing a bunch last week was the oslo.limit 1.0 release. It's not actually a 1.0 release. :-) | 15:13 |
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| bcafarel | nothing from neutron (I think Rodolfo already asked last week about a question he had) | 15:14 |
| bnemec | So unless you want to get involved with designing the oslo.limit API (which would be great!), don't use it. | 15:14 |
| moguimar | nothing from Barbican | 15:14 |
| bnemec | Should maybe just merge this with the releases topic since most of the red flags from our side are around new releases. ;-) | 15:15 |
| bnemec | #topic Releases | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:16 | |
| bnemec | As noted above, assume oslo.limit is actually pre-1.0 despite the version number until we say otherwise. | 15:17 |
| bnemec | FWIW, it seems the consensus is to not try to "fix" this by unpublishing the release. | 15:17 |
| bnemec | I probably need to take a look at what needs to be released again this week. I'd been holding off because of all the py2-removal releases, but it seems like those have slowed down and there may be stuff that needs to be released. | 15:19 |
| bnemec | Will try to get that done today. | 15:19 |
| bnemec | #topic Action items from last meeting | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:19 | |
| bnemec | "bnemec to send mail about oslo.limit 1.0" | 15:20 |
| bnemec | Done | 15:20 |
| bnemec | "hberaud to write release note for oslo.limit" | 15:20 |
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| hberaud | done | 15:20 |
| bnemec | Sorry I haven't reviewed it. :-/ | 15:20 |
| bnemec | "hberaud to investigate whether to fix or remove oslobot from oslo.tools" | 15:20 |
| hberaud | https://review.opendev.org/708326 | 15:20 |
| hberaud | not done | 15:20 |
| bnemec | I approved the release note. | 15:23 |
| bnemec | And that was all the action items. | 15:23 |
| bnemec | #topic Vancouver PTG | 15:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vancouver PTG (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:23 | |
| bnemec | Still haven't heard from anyone who is going to be there, so at this point I don't expect to ask for a room. | 15:24 |
| bnemec | We can maybe do a virtual PTG if the next PTL wants to organize one. | 15:24 |
| bnemec | But I'll leave that up to that person. :-) | 15:25 |
| jungleboyj | Cinder team is planning to be there. | 15:25 |
| bnemec | We already covered oslo.limit so we can skip that one. | 15:25 |
| jungleboyj | Just FYI. | 15:25 |
| johnsom | I am planning to be there, but will be focused in the Octavia room. | 15:26 |
| bnemec | Cool, maybe the Oslo refugees can hang out there. :-) | 15:26 |
| bnemec | #topic Meeting time poll | 15:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Meeting time poll (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:26 | |
| bnemec | #link https://doodle.com/poll/zmyhrhewtes6x9ty | 15:27 |
| bnemec | So there are only two times that work for moguimar. | 15:28 |
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| moguimar | yeah, but checking on my callendar the meeting will stop to overlap | 15:28 |
| moguimar | in about two weeks | 15:28 |
| bnemec | One of them doesn't work for me at all because I have a 1-1 at that time that I can't really multitask. | 15:28 |
| bnemec | Oh, is this only a daylight savings time conflict? | 15:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Nick Maludy proposed openstack/tooz master: Adds heartbeating to the consul driver. https://review.opendev.org/707681 | 15:29 |
| moguimar | yeah | 15:29 |
| moguimar | it is an issue during nov-feb | 15:29 |
| bnemec | It occurs to me that I hadn't even considered the DST change when I filled out the survey... | 15:30 |
| moguimar | but my meeting was also migrated to monday during nov | 15:30 |
| moguimar | so I didn't catch that until now | 15:30 |
| bnemec | Yeah | 15:30 |
| * bnemec shakes fist at DST | 15:30 | |
| moguimar | so I guess we can keep this time | 15:30 |
| moguimar | and my other meeting might move around before next November | 15:31 |
| bnemec | Yeah, and actually the next hour on Monday is the one with the highest number of people available. | 15:31 |
| bnemec | So if DST will take care of moving it to then in a few weeks anyway, that seems like the way to go. | 15:32 |
| bnemec | That should also reduce the meeting overrun problems I've had lately as my previous meeting shouldn't move. | 15:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.limit master: oslo.limit mistakenly released as 1.0.0 (release note) https://review.opendev.org/708326 | 15:33 |
| bnemec | Okay, if no one has any objections then let's let DST solve the conflict for us and leave the meeting where it is UTC-wise. | 15:33 |
| moguimar | +1 | 15:34 |
| bnemec | I don't expect any objections since almost everyone was green on that time. :-) | 15:34 |
| bnemec | I'll send a followup email to the list with this result. | 15:34 |
| bnemec | #action bnemec send email about Oslo meeting time | 15:34 |
| bnemec | Thanks to everyone who filled out the survey! | 15:34 |
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| bnemec | That's the one-off topics for this week. | 15:35 |
| bnemec | #topic Weekly Wayward Review | 15:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Weekly Wayward Review (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:35 | |
| bnemec | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/699694 | 15:36 |
| bnemec | I just approved it. :-) | 15:36 |
| bnemec | I could swear I had looked at that before, but maybe it was before the py2 drop had happened or something. | 15:36 |
| bnemec | If anyone else is looking for something to review, it would be nice to make some progress on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/691820/ | 15:38 |
| bnemec | This is part of Line's changes to reduce messaging bottlenecks in their deployment. | 15:38 |
| bnemec | Would be nice if we could get it available upstream. | 15:38 |
| bnemec | Anyway, that's it for the regular agenda. | 15:39 |
| bnemec | #topic Open discussion | 15:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:39 | |
| bnemec | Anything else this week? | 15:39 |
| moguimar | yep | 15:40 |
| moguimar | o/ | 15:40 |
| moguimar | who are our oslo.cache experts? | 15:40 |
| moguimar | I'm trying to push TLS support for memcached | 15:40 |
| bnemec | With the departure of kmalloc I think that would be hberaud. | 15:40 |
| hberaud | bnemec: (or other core) can you validate this one => https://review.opendev.org/#/c/704508/ (backport) | 15:40 |
| bnemec | Maybe someone else from the Keystone team too. | 15:40 |
| moguimar | got that merged into python-binary-memcached so far | 15:40 |
| hberaud | moguimar: I seen your dogpile.cache discussion | 15:41 |
| moguimar | I was reading oslo.cache docs last week | 15:42 |
| moguimar | and found out that mongodb has TLS support | 15:42 |
| moguimar | gotta try it | 15:42 |
| moguimar | support already in oslo.config | 15:42 |
| moguimar | oslo.cache* | 15:42 |
| moguimar | but I also couldn't find many oslo.cache examples | 15:43 |
| moguimar | there is only one in the docs and not that straightforward | 15:43 |
| moguimar | not just copy-paste and watch it burn | 15:43 |
| hberaud | moguimar: what do you thing to start by initialize some etherpad and start centralize things on it and collect our needs etc...? | 15:44 |
| moguimar | I'll be synching up with Lance Bragstad later today on this topic | 15:45 |
| moguimar | hberaud, we have one already right? | 15:45 |
| moguimar | let me find the link | 15:45 |
| hberaud | moguimar: ah right I remember now | 15:45 |
| moguimar | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-cache-tls-support-worksheet | 15:46 |
| bnemec | A mailing list thread might be good too. I wouldn't be surprised if there are other people interested in this. | 15:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslotest master: tools: Default to Python 3 https://review.opendev.org/699694 | 15:47 |
| moguimar | good idea bnemec | 15:48 |
| moguimar | I'll prepare something | 15:48 |
| bnemec | Which one of the options from the etherpad are you planning to pursue? | 15:48 |
| moguimar | python-binary-memcached | 15:49 |
| bnemec | Last I heard on the pymemcache change was that we needed to verify it didn't break in the migration from python-memcache. | 15:49 |
| moguimar | already got TLS support on it | 15:49 |
| moguimar | now moving up to dogpile.cache | 15:49 |
| moguimar | and then oslo.cache | 15:49 |
| bnemec | Okay, so that's a third memcache client lib? | 15:49 |
| moguimar | python-binary-memcached also supports SASL, so we picked it for being "feature-rich" | 15:49 |
| bnemec | Is it in global-requirements? | 15:50 |
| moguimar | can't find it here | 15:51 |
| moguimar | https://opendev.org/openstack/requirements/src/branch/master/global-requirements.txt | 15:51 |
| moguimar | am I looking in the right place? | 15:51 |
| bnemec | And I guess this assumes we'll move all of oslo.cache to use pbm? I wouldn't think we'd want to use different libs for SSL and non-SSL. | 15:52 |
| bnemec | Yeah, that's it. | 15:52 |
| bnemec | It was kind of a leading question because I suspected it wouldn't be there. ;-) | 15:52 |
| bnemec | If we're not still planning to pursue pymemcache we might want to remove that. | 15:53 |
| bnemec | The requirements team doesn't generally like having a bunch of libs that do the same thing. | 15:53 |
| moguimar | there are 4 different python clients to memcached | 15:54 |
| moguimar | that we have documented | 15:54 |
| smcginnis | If we can narrow it down to a couple officially tested in the community, that is preferred. | 15:55 |
| moguimar | bnemec, what is pbm/ | 15:55 |
| moguimar | ? | 15:55 |
| bnemec | python-binary-memcached | 15:55 |
| moguimar | ah | 15:56 |
| moguimar | this is mainly driven by the fact that TLS-Everywhere forgot memcached | 15:57 |
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| bnemec | Oh, maybe pymemcache isn't only used by oslo.cache. | 15:58 |
| bnemec | Apparently it broke the tooz gate at one point: https://opendev.org/openstack/requirements/commit/0297b9936788ac100db6787d048c6d378da377b0 | 15:58 |
| bnemec | At least if we migrate off python-memcached maybe we can remove that. | 15:59 |
| moguimar | both python-memcached and pylibmc rely on libmemcached | 15:59 |
| moguimar | a client library to memcached written in C | 16:00 |
| moguimar | and it is unmaintained for now | 16:00 |
| moguimar | according to folks at #memcached | 16:00 |
| bnemec | Yeah, moving away from that is definitely a win. | 16:00 |
| moguimar | ok, we are past the top of the hour | 16:01 |
| bnemec | If we can do a 1 for 1 swap with memcached libraries then that should be okay with the requirements team. | 16:01 |
| moguimar | I'll send the email tomorrow, I'm running out of time today | 16:01 |
| bnemec | Sounds good. | 16:01 |
| bnemec | Speaking of running out of time, we're past the end of the meeting now. | 16:02 |
| bnemec | Anything else we need to talk about quickly? | 16:02 |
| bnemec | #action moguimar send email about moving oslo.cache to a different memcached library | 16:02 |
| bnemec | Okay, thanks for joining everyone! | 16:04 |
| bnemec | #endmeeting | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Common Libraries | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo" | 16:04 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 24 16:04:37 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2020/oslo.2020-02-24-15.10.html | 16:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2020/oslo.2020-02-24-15.10.txt | 16:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2020/oslo.2020-02-24-15.10.log.html | 16:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.cache master: Switch from python-memcached to pymemcache. https://review.opendev.org/634457 | 16:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.cache stable/queens: Pass `flush_on_reconnect` to memcache pooled backend https://review.opendev.org/704508 | 17:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.utils master: Fix regex to correctly recognize scientific notation with imageutils https://review.opendev.org/709588 | 19:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.utils master: Fix regex to correctly recognize scientific notation with imageutils https://review.opendev.org/709588 | 19:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.utils master: Fix regex to correctly recognize scientific notation with QemuImgInfo https://review.opendev.org/709588 | 19:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/cookiecutter master: Minimise info in CONTRIBUTING.rst https://review.opendev.org/708672 | 20:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/cookiecutter master: Autofill bug tracker link in contributor docs https://review.opendev.org/708703 | 20:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.rootwrap master: Implement "realpath" to retrieve the real absolute path https://review.opendev.org/708936 | 21:42 |
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