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| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.cache master: Ignore reno artifacts https://review.opendev.org/701973 | 08:21 |
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| bnemec | #startmeeting oslo | 15:01 |
| bnemec | Courtesy ping for bnemec, jungleboyj, moguimar, hberaud, stephenfin, kgiusti, johnsom, e0ne, redrobot, bcafarel | 15:01 |
| bnemec | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 13 15:01:10 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 15:01 |
| hberaud | o/ | 15:01 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 15:01 |
| johnsom | o/ | 15:01 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 15:01 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:02 |
| moguimar | o/ also in another meeting | 15:02 |
| bnemec | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:03 | |
| johnsom | Nothing on the Octavia sid | 15:03 |
| johnsom | side | 15:03 |
| jungleboyj | Nothing from Cinder. | 15:03 |
| moguimar | nothing from Barbican | 15:03 |
| bnemec | The main thing from Oslo is that we're probably going to start merging patches to remove py2 support soon. | 15:03 |
| bnemec | So if you're still running any py2 jobs it's possible we'll break them. | 15:04 |
| jungleboyj | That is good. | 15:04 |
| bnemec | But you should stop running py2 jobs anyway. :-P | 15:04 |
| johnsom | Yep, we are long down that path already, so remove away! | 15:05 |
| bnemec | Oh, and also we did some releases last week that proved problematic. | 15:05 |
| bnemec | Specifically oslo.config is breaking some of Glance's unit tests. | 15:05 |
| bcafarel | nothing from Neutron either (and we have good progress on py2 jobs cleanup :) ) | 15:05 |
| bnemec | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701580/ | 15:06 |
| bnemec | ^the debug patch that is related to the Glance breakage. | 15:06 |
| bnemec | Alright, I think that's it for red flags. If you run into any issues related to the above let us know of course. | 15:07 |
| bnemec | #topic Releases | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:07 | |
| bnemec | As I mentioned, there were some issues with the releases last week. | 15:08 |
| bnemec | I also did get stable releases proposed for all of the active branches. | 15:08 |
| bnemec | I think they've all merged now so we should be up to date. | 15:08 |
| hberaud | double checked | 15:08 |
| hberaud | yep | 15:08 |
| bnemec | I see there's a release request for oslo.vmware too: https://review.opendev.org/702233 | 15:09 |
| bnemec | Will take a look at that later. | 15:09 |
| hberaud | I will check too | 15:10 |
| hberaud | oslo.vmware have received new features last week | 15:10 |
| bnemec | Otherwise just expect master releases. I may hold off on oslo.config until we resolve the issues there. | 15:10 |
| bnemec | Yeah, I'm guessing this is related to some work going on in Glance. | 15:11 |
| bnemec | #topic Action items from last meeting | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:12 | |
| bnemec | "bnemec to set up doodle poll for meeting time" | 15:12 |
| bnemec | Not done, so... | 15:12 |
| bnemec | #action bnemec to set up doodle poll for meeting time | 15:12 |
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| bnemec | Got distracted by some last-minute travel planning last week. | 15:12 |
| bnemec | That was it for action items. | 15:13 |
| bnemec | And speaking of travel... | 15:13 |
| bnemec | #topic bnemec travelling next week | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bnemec travelling next week (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:13 | |
| bnemec | Monday I'm going to be travelling so I won't be able to run the meeting. | 15:13 |
| bnemec | If anyone else wants to do it then great, but otherwise we can cancel. | 15:14 |
| bnemec | Ping me if you want to run the meeting, and if no one does then I'll send an email later this week to let everyone know it's not happening. | 15:15 |
| bnemec | I'll be out Friday too, FWIW. | 15:16 |
| johnsom | I will be out Monday too, so not volunteering | 15:16 |
| bnemec | And in f2f meetings Tue-Thur so availability will be dependent on that. | 15:16 |
| bnemec | So next week would be an excellent time for py2 removals to break stuff. ;-) | 15:17 |
| hberaud | :) | 15:17 |
| johnsom | It will all be fixed by the time you are back.... lol | 15:17 |
| bnemec | That's the idea. :-) | 15:17 |
| bnemec | And another natural segue... | 15:18 |
| bnemec | #topic Dropping py27 support | 15:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Dropping py27 support (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:18 | |
| bnemec | There are some patches up already to drop py2 support from Oslo libs. I had previously asked people to hold off on that because we hadn't reached the phase where libraries could do the removal yet. | 15:18 |
| bnemec | We have now though. | 15:19 |
| bnemec | I'm good with starting to push those along. | 15:19 |
| bnemec | There was a suggestion that we wait and give people more time, but the longer we wait the closer we get to the end of the cycle. | 15:19 |
| hberaud | +1 | 15:20 |
| bnemec | Plus I think it's going to take us a while to get this done for all of the Oslo libs, so I'd rather not wait. | 15:20 |
| bnemec | If we break stuff at least we've got time to get it fixed. | 15:20 |
| hberaud | I think we need to ask for reno on each dropping, and we will provide a major release for each project, I'm right? | 15:21 |
| bnemec | Last week we agreed to bring it up here so our liaisons would have a heads up, and I will also send something to the mailing list. | 15:21 |
| bnemec | #action bnemec to send py2 removal email to openstack-discuss | 15:21 |
| bnemec | hberaud: Yeah, I think these will need to all be major releases. | 15:21 |
| johnsom | We did a major version bump for python-octaviaclient to signal the removal of py27 support | 15:22 |
| hberaud | other projects have bumped to major release and reno "update" have been provided too | 15:22 |
| hberaud | as far as I seen... | 15:23 |
| hberaud | drop py27 side topic: I plan to remove "six" support after the dropping but I think we should wait the end of the milestone 2 before to avoid side effects and possible rushs during this period, thoughts? | 15:23 |
| bnemec | A reno is probably good too. | 15:23 |
| bnemec | Once py2 support is gone I think removing six is fair game. | 15:24 |
| bnemec | It might be good to focus on the py2 removal first and try to get those all done before moving on to six, but both things probably need to happen eventually. | 15:24 |
| hberaud | as you want, I just want to avoid side effects related to six during a short sprint | 15:25 |
| bnemec | I wouldn't expect six removals to be very high risk. | 15:26 |
| bnemec | I guess it will be a lot of code churn in some projects that make heavy use of six. | 15:26 |
| hberaud | I already propose to remove six from heat, it's more than 29 patches with 15 files and like 150 changes for each patch... | 15:27 |
| bnemec | My stance would be that py2 removal is the top priority, but I'm not concerned enough about six to block people from working on that too if it makes them happy. :-) | 15:28 |
| hberaud | example => https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:drop-six-and-py27-support | 15:28 |
| johnsom | We are also moving forward with pulling six out | 15:28 |
| hberaud | ok | 15:28 |
| johnsom | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701290/ | 15:29 |
| bnemec | Obviously if it turns out six is a big issue or something we can revisit this. | 15:29 |
| bnemec | Okay, to wrap up this topic: | 15:31 |
| bnemec | #agreed Proceed with py2 removal from Oslo libraries | 15:31 |
| bnemec | #agreed Remove six from Oslo libraries as a secondary priority | 15:31 |
| bnemec | #topic Weekly Wayward Review | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Weekly Wayward Review (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:32 | |
| bnemec | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/688251/ | 15:32 |
| bnemec | hberaud: Do you want to do the honors on that one? | 15:32 |
| hberaud | go wild | 15:33 |
| hberaud | FYI I started to design a tool to help us to remove six based on python parser and based on python symbol and token => https://github.com/4383/sixectomy/tree/devel if some of you are interested to help me move further, the main idea is to avoid regex, update the needed import, use the native python parser tp detect things to update to avoid errors and check if code is valid too | 15:33 |
| bnemec | Ah, nice. I was just wondering if such a thing existed. :-) | 15:34 |
| hberaud | during my heat patches I used regex and sed but it's a little bit an annoying so I prefered spend time to implement this project to reuse and secure the things | 15:35 |
| bnemec | Yeah, sounds useful. | 15:35 |
| bnemec | #topic Open discussion | 15:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:36 | |
| bnemec | Seems like we've reached this point in the meeting. | 15:36 |
| bnemec | Anything else before we go about our week? | 15:37 |
| hberaud | not on my hands | 15:38 |
| bnemec | Okay, good discussions again today. Thanks for joining everyone! | 15:39 |
| bnemec | #endmeeting | 15:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Common Libraries | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo" | 15:39 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 13 15:39:16 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2020/oslo.2020-01-13-15.01.html | 15:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2020/oslo.2020-01-13-15.01.txt | 15:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2020/oslo.2020-01-13-15.01.log.html | 15:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/sphinx-feature-classification master: Add support for feature.api https://review.opendev.org/702258 | 16:51 |
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