Monday, 2019-11-18

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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/oslo.utils stable/train: Make mask_dict_password case insensitive and add new patterns  https://review.opendev.org/69457309:13
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/oslo.utils stable/stein: Make mask_dict_password case insensitive and add new patterns  https://review.opendev.org/69457409:13
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/oslo.utils stable/rocky: Make mask_dict_password case insensitive and add new patterns  https://review.opendev.org/69457509:13
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bnemec#startmeeting oslo15:02
bnemecCourtesy ping for bnemec, jungleboyj, moguimar, hberaud, stephenfin, kgiusti, johnsom, e0ne, redrobot, bcafarel15:02
bnemec#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting15:02
openstackMeeting started Mon Nov 18 15:02:41 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:02
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)"15:02
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'oslo'15:02
johnsomo/15:02
hberaudo/15:02
kgiustio/15:03
jungleboyjKind of here.15:03
redrobot\o15:03
Akira72o/15:03
ansmith_o/15:03
bcafarelo/15:03
bnemecjungleboyj: I'm impressed you're awake. :-)15:03
jungleboyj:-)  Check with me in 4 hours.  :-)15:03
bnemecOkay, good turnout today. Welcome everyone!15:05
bnemec#topic Red flags for/from liaisons15:05
*** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)"15:05
openstackgerritEyal proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: Make sure minimum amqp is 2.5.2  https://review.opendev.org/69468615:05
johnsomNothing to report from Octavia15:05
jungleboyjNothing from Cinder.15:06
moguimaro/15:06
bnemecNothing much from the Oslo side. The major thing was the mask password changes in oslo.utils, but I don't think that affects anyone here.15:07
bnemecAlthough I guess it's worth noting that those changers are making the mask_password functions in strutils case insensitive.15:08
moguimarNothing from Barbican15:08
hberaudthe tripleo guys seems to facing some related leak of password15:08
bnemecI don't expect that to cause any problems, but if it does let use know, of course.15:08
bnemechberaud: Yeah, that's what the mask password stuff is intended to fix.15:09
hberaudI suppose this is why they fixed that...15:09
bnemecI need to look at the new patches for that too.15:09
hberaudack15:09
bnemecLots of very tripleo-specific keys in there, but I guess it's unavoidable.15:10
hberaudand if someone can take a look to the stein and rocky backport too15:10
hberaudthey are welcome15:10
hberaudthanks15:10
bnemecI really wish Mistral didn't just log giant dicts all the time.15:10
bnemecYeah, I'll try to keep on top of the backports too.15:11
hberaudty15:11
bnemec#topic Releases15:11
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bnemecI didn't get them done again last week. :-(15:12
bnemecThere were individual releases for oslo.utils proposed, but I need to make sure everything that has merged in other projects gets released too.15:12
bnemecWill try to get that done today.15:12
bnemec#topic Action items from last meeting15:13
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bnemec"hberaud to approve https://review.opendev.org/689611"15:13
bnemecDone, thanks!15:13
bnemec"bnemec to send email about virtual PTG"15:13
bnemecAlso done. More on that in a bit.15:14
bnemecThat was it for action items. Always like it when they're all done. :-)15:14
bnemec#topic Virtual PTG15:14
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bnemec#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-shanghai-topics15:14
bnemecI've tentatively scheduled this for next week at this time.15:15
bnemecWe'll be meeting virtually on the link in the etherpad.15:15
moguimarsounds good15:15
moguimarwe might have more people attending that today due to the short notice15:16
bnemecI'm not sure exactly how long it will take. Probably depends on how much discussion is needed.15:16
bnemecYeah, that was my thought as well. I just got one more notification from the Doodle poll this morning.15:16
bnemecSpeaking of which:15:17
bnemec#link https://doodle.com/poll/8bqiv865ucyt849915:17
openstackgerritEyal proposed openstack/oslo.messaging stable/train: Make sure minimum amqp is 2.5.2  https://review.opendev.org/69479215:17
bnemecSo far next week is the winner, but if that doesn't work for you let me know.15:17
bnemecI also recommend trying out jitsi ahead of time. It's a less common video conferencing service, but it's open source so it's a better fit for this.15:20
bcafarelI will probably lurk in the background, if some liaison stuff is needed for neutron15:21
bnemecIf we have problems I have a bluejeans meeting we can fall back to as well.15:21
bnemecbcafarel: Sounds good, thanks.15:21
bnemecOkay, that's all I had about the PTG.15:23
bnemec#topic Shanghai PTG Summary15:23
*** openstack changes topic to "Shanghai PTG Summary (Meeting topic: oslo)"15:23
bnemecActually, one more thing just in case anyone missed it on the mailing list.15:23
bnemec#link http://blog.nemebean.com/content/oslo-shanghai15:23
bnemecI wrote up some thoughts about the event in Shanghai.15:24
bnemecThe good news is that there seems to be a fair amount of interest in Oslo.15:24
bnemecWhether that translates into people actually contributing I don't know. :-)15:24
bnemec#topic Weekly Wayward Review15:27
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bnemec#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/650915/15:27
bnemecMy reviewstats instance is down for some reason, but I had that one open and I know it was on the list.15:28
bnemecI had left a question back in July, but it wasn't anything critical so I'm inclined to just go ahead and merge it.15:28
bnemecAny objections?15:28
bnemecOkay, it should be headed to the gate.15:30
bnemec#topic Open discussion15:30
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bnemecAnything else this week?15:30
Akira72As you know, I wrote a spec for nats driver of oslo.messaging.15:31
Akira72https://review.opendev.org/#/c/692784/15:32
bnemecYep, I really need to review that this week.15:33
hberaudAkira72: I will take look soon15:33
kgiustiMe also15:33
Akira72Thank you all.15:33
bnemecI did a bit of investigation last week as I was writing up my PTG summary since the NATS driver came up at the event.15:33
Akira72I see.15:34
Akira72I found it.15:34
Akira72I'll check it tomorrow.15:34
bnemecI will try to get my thoughts recorded on the spec review too.15:35
Akira72Yes, please.15:35
bnemecThanks for proposing it. It sounds very interesting based on what I've seen so far.15:36
Akira72:D15:37
Akira72Do I have to write another spec for msgpack_(de)serialize_msg()?15:38
Akira72https://review.opendev.org/68062815:38
bnemec#action bnemec, hberaud, and kgiusti to review NATS driver spec15:38
Akira72NATS driver is using them.15:39
bnemecThen I would say we don't need a separate spec. Maybe note in the commit message that the msgpack change is related to the NATS driver.15:40
bnemecIt doesn't look like that big of a change by itself.15:40
Akira72I see. I'll add it.15:41
bnemecI wonder if we should consider moving all the drivers to msgpack. If it's that much faster it could have a meaningful impact on OpenStack performance.15:42
bnemecWould have to be done over multiple cycles with some compatibility code for rolling upgrades, but I think we could make it work.15:42
bnemecI suppose the first thing  would be to do some performance testing with msgpack swapped in for JSON.15:43
bnemecAnyway, that's hypothetical future work.15:43
hberaudgood idea15:43
Akira72In the case, we have to consider backward compatibility for migration.15:44
bnemecYeah, but I think we could do it since we have the versioned envelope for oslo.messaging.15:45
bnemecWe'd have to indicate whether a message is JSON or msgpack and do the right thing during the transition.15:45
bnemecHowever, that's completely separate from the NATS stuff.15:45
Akira72Right.15:46
bnemec#idea consider replacing JSON serialization with msgpack15:46
Akira72I'm also interested in using msgpack for (de)serialize_msg.15:47
bnemecI'm also curious how msgpack will handle some of the types we special-cased in jsonutils.15:47
bnemecBut now I'm getting pretty far down the rabbit hole. :-)15:47
bnemecWe should discuss this all further on the reviews themselves.15:48
bnemecSo, anything else before we end the meeting for this week?15:48
bnemecSounds like we're done. Thanks for joining everyone!15:51
bnemec#endmeeting15:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/osprofiler master: Handle driver initialization errors to avoid service crash  https://review.opendev.org/65091517:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging master: Make sure minimum amqp is 2.5.2  https://review.opendev.org/69468619:53
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/oslo.policy stable/train: Fix reference cycle caused by deprecated sample override  https://review.opendev.org/69484120:23
bnemecUgh, somehow I didn't release that before train shipped. :-(20:23
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/oslo.policy stable/train: Suppress deprecation warnings in oslopolicy-list-redundant  https://review.opendev.org/69484220:26
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/oslo.policy stable/train: Modernize policy checker  https://review.opendev.org/69484320:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.utils master: Make mask_dict_password case insensitive and add new patterns  https://review.opendev.org/69451522:50
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