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| asettle | beekneemech, do you know how long it took me to realise you're still on your Friday nick? Ugh :p couldn't find you for 20 minutes | 12:38 |
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| asettle | Need your help with navigating the o/slo.messaging/messaging/_drivers/ stuff | 12:39 |
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| bnemec | asettle: :-) | 14:07 |
| bnemec | What are you looking at for the messaging drivers? | 14:07 |
| asettle | Morning! | 14:07 |
| asettle | So | 14:07 |
| asettle | It's a pretty trivial thing, buuhhtttt I've got some broken links in Sahara I need to fix and it's relative to the oslo suches | 14:09 |
| asettle | Basically, in https://docs.openstack.org/sahara/rocky/admin/advanced-configuration-guide.html#distributed-mode-configuration | 14:09 |
| asettle | See the "For an expanded view of all the options provided by each message broker driver in oslo.messaging please refer to the options available in the respective source trees:" | 14:09 |
| asettle | There's a list for RabbitMQ and Zmq | 14:09 |
| asettle | They're all broken due to the move to opendev | 14:09 |
| asettle | Although some, such as zmq_opts variable in impl_zmq.py - no longer appear to exist in that same location anymore | 14:10 |
| asettle | So I haven't been able to match them up | 14:10 |
| asettle | Hoping you can help me navigate the new structure, really, and find these files. | 14:10 |
| bnemec | They should remove the zmq bits. We dropped that driver a couple of cycles ago. | 14:10 |
| bnemec | The rabbit opts moved to https://opendev.org/openstack/oslo.messaging/src/branch/master/oslo_messaging/_drivers/impl_rabbit.py#L65 | 14:12 |
| bnemec | amqp is https://opendev.org/openstack/oslo.messaging/src/branch/master/oslo_messaging/_drivers/amqp.py#L33 | 14:12 |
| bnemec | It might be better to link to the docs though: https://docs.openstack.org/oslo.messaging/stein/configuration/opts.html#oslo-messaging-amqp | 14:13 |
| bnemec | Although weirdly stuff like amqp_durable_queues only shows up under the rabbit section: https://docs.openstack.org/oslo.messaging/stein/configuration/opts.html#oslo-messaging-rabbit | 14:15 |
| asettle | bnemec, so, I'd like to backport some of this stuff to Rocky as I have use for it downstream. What can I for that? Are you suggesting the zmq was removed pre-Rocky? | 14:16 |
| bnemec | asettle: Looks like the zmq driver was deprecated in rocky, so I think it's reasonable to not document use of it in another project. | 14:19 |
| bnemec | It hasn't worked in longer than that either because no one was maintaining it. | 14:19 |
| asettle | Okay. So. Thanks for the link to rabbit and amqp, I should remove everyting to zmq since that's been deprecated *since* Rocky. | 14:20 |
| bnemec | I would say so, yes. | 14:20 |
| asettle | bnemec, whyyyy thank you :D this has been most helpful | 14:22 |
| bnemec | asettle: Glad I could help | 14:23 |
| asettle | \o/ | 14:23 |
| bnemec | I'm still a little confused why the amqp_opts are in the rabbit group, but it appears that was intentional: https://opendev.org/openstack/oslo.messaging/src/branch/master/oslo_messaging/opts.py#L42 | 14:24 |
| bnemec | Unfortunately no kgiusti online right now. :-/ | 14:24 |
| asettle | bnemec, https://review.opendev.org/677214 please correct me if I have misunderstood you | 14:27 |
| asettle | I'm on a bit of a link fixing bonaza at the moment | 14:27 |
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| bnemec | asettle: A couple of comments. The nit is probably not a big deal on a stable branch, but I think you want to change the group for the doc link. | 14:34 |
| asettle | I'll update nit 2, but I'll leave nit 1 for others to determine :) as long as the link ain't broken, I'm G | 14:34 |
| bnemec | asettle: Sorry, got distracted. One more little thing, but otherwise I'm good with that. | 14:51 |
| asettle | HAhA oh | 14:51 |
| asettle | Thanks Ben :) | 14:51 |
| asettle | I'm rushing too much | 14:52 |
| bnemec | Been there, done that. :-) | 14:53 |
| asettle | Heh yeah | 14:53 |
| bnemec | Looks like sahara's pep8 job might be broken on that branch. :-/ | 14:54 |
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| moguimar | bnemec: meeting? | 15:02 |
| bnemec | #startmeeting oslo | 15:02 |
| bnemec | Courtesy ping for bnemec, jungleboyj, moguimar, hberaud, kgiusti, redrobot, stephenfin, johnsom | 15:02 |
| bnemec | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 19 15:02:34 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 15:02 |
| njohnston_ | o/ | 15:02 |
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| bnemec | Dang, I am missing all of my meeting notifications today. | 15:02 |
| moguimar | o/ | 15:02 |
| bnemec | moguimar: Thanks for the reminder. | 15:02 |
| moguimar | no biggie | 15:02 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 15:02 |
| ansmith_ | o/ | 15:03 |
| johnsom | o/ | 15:03 |
| bnemec | Hey kgiusti, while I've got you here, any idea why the amqp opts are in the rabbit group instead of the amqp one? https://opendev.org/openstack/oslo.messaging/src/branch/master/oslo_messaging/opts.py#L45 | 15:03 |
| * kgiusti looks... | 15:04 | |
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| kgiusti | bnemec: legacy | 15:05 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: those options are queue lifetime configuration options - used to apply to qpid and rabbitmq | 15:05 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: since they're no longer universal to all drivers they can be moved into imp_rabbit | 15:06 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: Okay, thanks. I was looking at them for a discussion earlier and was surprised by that. | 15:06 |
| bnemec | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:06 | |
| bnemec | Back to your regularly scheduled meeting agenda... | 15:07 |
| johnsom | Nothing from the Octavia team | 15:07 |
| njohnston | nothing I am aware of in Neutron land | 15:07 |
| moguimar | nothing from Oslo | 15:07 |
| moguimar | oops | 15:07 |
| moguimar | Barbican xD | 15:07 |
| johnsom | lol | 15:07 |
| moguimar | that's what happens when you're the middle man xD | 15:07 |
| bnemec | :-) | 15:08 |
| bnemec | I don't see anything from the Oslo side either, so you were right both times. :-) | 15:08 |
| bnemec | #topic Releases | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:08 | |
| bnemec | I think the only one last week was oslo.messaging. That review hasn't merged yet though. | 15:09 |
| bnemec | When it does, this will be the first release with the heartbeat native thread option. | 15:09 |
| bnemec | Which I think is mostly interesting to Nova, but if you're having trouble with messaging heartbeats in an environment that combines eventlet and wsgi, that may help you. | 15:10 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: is it waiting on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/661314/ ? | 15:10 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: No, although we should probably update the spec to reflect what we did. | 15:11 |
| bnemec | Unfortunately Herve is out for a couple of weeks here so it may be a while. | 15:11 |
| bnemec | Just waiting on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/676425/ to merge. | 15:11 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: ack - gotcha | 15:12 |
| gsantomaggio | Hi all, | 15:12 |
| gsantomaggio | This week I should have time to work on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/672073/ | 15:12 |
| kgiusti | yay gsantomaggio in 'da room! | 15:13 |
| gsantomaggio | 😀 | 15:14 |
| bnemec | Okay, sounds good. I've only been vaguely following that review. | 15:14 |
| bnemec | #topic Action items from last meeting | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:15 | |
| bnemec | "Get py37 tests passing on oslo.log and castellan repos" | 15:15 |
| bnemec | Done | 15:15 |
| bnemec | oslo.log in particular was rather "fun" to figure out. | 15:15 |
| bnemec | "bnemec to open bugs for py37 test failures" | 15:16 |
| bnemec | Also done, although one of them already had a bug open for it. | 15:16 |
| bnemec | That was it for action items last week. | 15:16 |
| bnemec | #topic Feature freeze | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Feature freeze (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:16 | |
| bnemec | This is just a heads up, Oslo feature freeze is coming up in a couple of weeks. | 15:17 |
| bnemec | After the 30th any feature work will require an exception. | 15:17 |
| bnemec | #link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html | 15:18 |
| bnemec | The Oslo schedule is always available on ^ | 15:18 |
| bnemec | #topic PTG | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:19 | |
| bnemec | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-shanghai-topics | 15:19 |
| bnemec | Also another reminder about the PTG etherpad. | 15:19 |
| bnemec | I also wanted to note that I had a talk accepted for the summit to demonstrate some of the operator-facing tools in Oslo. | 15:19 |
| bnemec | moguimar: I was planning to include the castellan config driver, FYI. | 15:20 |
| bnemec | I might be pinging you for help setting up a demo environment for that. | 15:20 |
| bnemec | Also planning to cover the config validator and various policy tools since those are relatively recent additions. | 15:21 |
| bnemec | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/summit-schedule/events/23978/demo-of-oslo-tools-that-make-life-easier-for-operators | 15:22 |
| bnemec | If you have anything else that you think I should cover there let me know ASAP. | 15:22 |
| bnemec | I'm not sure how long it will take to get through all of those, so we'll see how in-depth I can go. | 15:23 |
| bnemec | #topic oslo.config - rst to plaintext | 15:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "oslo.config - rst to plaintext (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:23 | |
| bnemec | moguimar: Was this you? | 15:24 |
| moguimar | yep | 15:25 |
| moguimar | I was poked about this patch | 15:25 |
| moguimar | do we still need it | 15:26 |
| moguimar | ? | 15:26 |
| bnemec | I guess the question is whether stephenfin is going to pursue the rst config opt descriptions change. | 15:27 |
| moguimar | I was poked here | 15:27 |
| moguimar | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/650935 | 15:27 |
| moguimar | is stephenfin around? | 15:27 |
| stephenfin | ENOTIME | 15:27 |
| stephenfin | I can do it, but not until M3 | 15:27 |
| stephenfin | i.e. not for Train | 15:27 |
| bnemec | So it's probably safe to abandon that for now. It can be revived if/when that work goes forward. | 15:28 |
| * stephenfin needs to do some reading up on docutils internal | 15:28 | |
| stephenfin | Yeah, that would be best | 15:28 |
| moguimar | ok | 15:28 |
| bnemec | And the requirements change doesn't block someone working on the feature, it just can't merge until the requirements are in. | 15:28 |
| stephenfin | indeed | 15:28 |
| moguimar | so we abandon the oslo patch and do what with the requirements one? | 15:29 |
| bnemec | #agreed abandon the rst2txt requirements review pending further progress on the feature | 15:29 |
| bnemec | moguimar: I would abandon the requirements patch and maybe WIP the oslo one. | 15:29 |
| moguimar | ok | 15:29 |
| moguimar | I'll abandon it then | 15:29 |
| bnemec | Sounds good, thanks. | 15:29 |
| bnemec | Okay, that was it for the agenda. | 15:30 |
| bnemec | #topic Weekly Wayward Review | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Weekly Wayward Review (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:30 | |
| bnemec | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/658675/ | 15:32 |
| bnemec | That's the oldest one, and I think maybe it should be WIP based on the latest discussion. | 15:32 |
| bnemec | I'm not sure how much desire there is to pursue that one either. There was some interest around it at one point, but it kind of tapered off as we looked into it further. | 15:33 |
| bnemec | Okay, that's done. | 15:34 |
| bnemec | It might still be nice to get that in though, if anyone wants to take it over. | 15:34 |
| bnemec | I'm not sure if Doug will have time to revisit it at this point. | 15:34 |
| bnemec | #topic Open discussion | 15:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:35 | |
| bnemec | Anything else this week? | 15:35 |
| johnsom | I want to raise awareness to this patch proposed by the Octavia team for Taskflow: | 15:35 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675388/ | 15:35 |
| johnsom | We are starting to heavily use the retry mechanisms of Taskflow and have found that one of the "status history" tables quickly overflows on mysql. It's a pretty simple fix. | 15:36 |
| bnemec | Heh, I looked at that and went "wait, we have db migrations in taskflow?!" | 15:37 |
| johnsom | Yeah, for certain usage paterns. | 15:37 |
| bnemec | johnsom: Okay, approved. | 15:40 |
| johnsom | Cool, thanks! | 15:40 |
| bnemec | Anything else? | 15:41 |
| bnemec | Looks like we're done. Thanks for joining, everyone! | 15:44 |
| bnemec | #endmeeting | 15:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Common Libraries | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo" | 15:44 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 19 15:44:11 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2019/oslo.2019-08-19-15.02.html | 15:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2019/oslo.2019-08-19-15.02.txt | 15:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2019/oslo.2019-08-19-15.02.log.html | 15:44 |
| bnemec | Bleh, that kombu thread was broken in my client so I made a sort of redundant reply to it. :-/ | 16:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/taskflow master: Use mysql LONGTEXT for atomdetails results https://review.opendev.org/675388 | 17:23 |
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