Monday, 2019-05-20

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.service stable/ocata: Fix oslo.service ProcessLauncher fails to call stop  https://review.opendev.org/64521409:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack/osprofiler master: Automatic configuration of SQLAlchemy driver in DevStack  https://review.opendev.org/65930509:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.policy master: Replace git.openstack.org URLs with opendev.org URLs  https://review.opendev.org/65472709:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/osprofiler master: Optimize storage schema for Redis driver  https://review.opendev.org/62519809:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.db stable/pike: exc_filters: fix deadlock detection for MariaDB/Galera cluster  https://review.opendev.org/65917009:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.vmware master: Dropping the py35 testing  https://review.opendev.org/65246409:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.log stable/pike: Use upper constraints from opendev.org  https://review.opendev.org/65565009:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.cache stable/queens: Use upper constraints from opendev.org  https://review.opendev.org/65563810:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.cache stable/pike: Use upper constraints from opendev.org  https://review.opendev.org/65563910:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.cache stable/stein: Use upper constraints from opendev.org  https://review.opendev.org/65563610:53
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openstackgerritNatal Ngétal proposed openstack/oslo.cache stable/stein: Avoid tox_install.sh for constraints support  https://review.opendev.org/65917413:54
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bnemec#startmeeting oslo15:01
openstackMeeting started Mon May 20 15:01:02 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)"15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'oslo'15:01
bnemeccourtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, ansmith, bnemec, dims, dougwig, e0ne15:01
bnemeccourtesy ping for electrocucaracha, garyk, gcb, haypo, hberaud, jd__, johnsom15:01
bnemeccourtesy ping for jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lhx_, moguimar, njohnston, raildo15:01
bnemeccourtesy ping for redrobot, sileht, sreshetnyak, stephenfin, stevemar, therve, thinrichs15:01
bnemeccourtesy ping for toabctl, zhiyan, zxy, zzzeek15:01
hberaudo/15:01
jungleboyjYay Courtesy ping.15:01
bnemec#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting15:01
stephenfino/15:01
jungleboyjThough this now conflicts with the Ironic meeting that I am also supposed to be in.15:01
bnemec:-(15:02
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jungleboyj:-)15:02
jungleboyjI am just too popular.  ;-)15:02
ansmitho/15:03
kgiustio/15:03
bnemecjungleboyj: There are worse problems to have. :-)15:03
jungleboyjIndeed.15:03
bnemec#topic Red flags for/from liaisons15:03
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jungleboyjNothing from Cinder.15:03
moguimaro/15:04
moguimarnothing from Barbican15:04
bnemecOslo spent most of last week dealing with the fallout of bandit/sphinx, so we didn't have much opportunity to break things (more). :-)15:05
bnemecThat's probably it for this topic based on the attendees.15:06
bnemec#topic Releases15:06
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jungleboyj:-)15:06
bnemecI didn't end up doing master releases last week because I was waiting on a Stein release that needed to bump the minor version.15:06
bnemecThat merged now, so I'll get the master release change updated with anything new.15:07
bnemecThere was a one-off release of oslo.serialization to deal with something that broke in PyYAML 5.1.15:07
bnemecOn a release-related note, I let the releases team know that hberaud is now our release liaison, so if there are releases needed and I'm not available he's your man.15:09
hberaudI'll take a look15:09
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hberaud(on the pyyaml stuff)15:09
bnemechberaud: It's fixed. I just released it separately because it was blocking packaging of the library for Train.15:09
hberaudoh ok15:10
bnemec#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/656813/15:10
bnemecI think that's it for releases.15:10
bnemec#topic Action items from last meeting15:10
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bnemec"bnemec to contact release team about new Oslo liaison"15:11
bnemecDone15:11
bnemec"bnemec to send email to list about courtesy pings"15:11
bnemecDone, and we'll discuss that in a moment.15:11
jungleboyjHe he he.15:11
bnemec"push cap, uncap patches to projects blocked by bandit"15:11
bnemecDone, huge thanks to everyone who helped out!15:11
bnemec"bnemec to send email about bandit plans"15:11
bnemecDone15:11
bnemec"bnemec and hberaud to sort out sphinx requirements"15:12
bnemecDone15:12
bnemec"hberaud to investigate pbr unit test flakiness"15:12
bnemecI think this is still WIP.15:12
bnemecThere's actually a new problem with the pbr tests that I hadn't noticed yet last week.15:12
bnemecThe pbr-installation-devstack jobs are failing consistently now. We'll need to fix that before we can unblock pbr.15:12
hberaudyeah, have you seen my latest comments about? https://review.opendev.org/65954615:13
bnemecSo that's actually a higher priority than the flaky unit tests.15:13
bnemechberaud: No, I hadn't.15:13
bnemecAh, fun.15:13
bnemechberaud: So do we need to make sure everyone has their networkx dependency updated then?15:14
hberaudhttps://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+topic:cap-networkx15:14
hberaudI've sent a bunch of fix for networkx15:14
hberaudbut the project in error in pbr devstack seem to ok with networkx...15:15
gsantomaggioI hope to work on this https://review.opendev.org/#/c/659078/ this week( if I won't have other problems ), I'd like to have the feature for the next release15:16
bnemecOkay, thanks for looking into it.15:16
bnemecWe'll keep plugging away to unblock pbr.15:16
bnemecTo wrap up this topic:15:16
bnemec"hberaud to review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/618569/"15:16
bnemecDone, thanks.15:16
bnemecgsantomaggio: Okay, I see kgiusti has been looking at that too. I'm sure we can get it ready soon.15:18
bnemec#topic Courtesy pings15:18
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moguimarlove them15:18
bnemecSo there was definite resistance to getting rid of these completely.15:18
bnemecWe had a discussion about this in the Cinder meeting last week too, and I think we came up with a plan that should be acceptable.15:19
jungleboyjmoguimar:  ++15:19
bnemecMy current thought is that we clear the ping list at the start of each cycle and require everyone to re-subscribe.15:19
jungleboyjbnemec:  ++15:20
bnemecThat way nobody ends up getting pinged just because they hadn't remembered to remove their name.15:20
jungleboyjOpt-In15:20
bnemecI'm also thinking I may do away with the oslo.tools ping script and just move the list to the meeting agenda directly.15:20
moguimarmaybe save those who 'o/' last meeting15:20
bnemecWe really don't need Oslo core approval for someone to add or remove themselves from the list.15:20
moguimarthat's true15:21
moguimar++ to the agenda15:21
bnemecmoguimar: One of the basic tenets of the ping list was that it needs to be explicitly opt-in though.15:21
bnemecI don't want to add anyone who didn't specifically ask for it.15:21
moguimarI see15:22
bnemecMaybe with the exception of the active Oslo cores. I'm probably going to seed the list with all of you. :-)15:22
bnemecAlthough maybe not. I'll have to think about that some more.15:22
moguimarI couldn't be more happy about that15:22
jungleboyjbnemec:  I think that approach is good.  I know I will never remember this meeting on a Monday morning otherwise.15:23
moguimaror maybe I could xD15:23
bnemecIn the meantime, I'll continue to use the existing ping list for the next week or two so people have a chance to get subscribed to the agenda list.15:23
moguimarok15:23
bnemecAnd I'll send an email to the list to let everyone know about our plan.15:23
bnemecIt'll probably be a new thread so it doesn't get lost in the existing discussion.15:23
bnemec#action bnemec to email openstack-discuss about ping list15:24
bnemecFor context, the existing discussion is here:15:24
bnemec#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006235.html15:24
jungleboyjSounds like a good plan.15:25
gsantomaggiofor who is interested I am publishing a set of commands I usually use to filter/sort data in RMQ using command line:15:25
gsantomaggiohttps://github.com/Gsantomaggio/rabbitmq-utils/blob/master/command_line_tools/command_line_tools15:25
bnemecOkay, keep an eye out for that email and respond if there's anything that concerns you.15:25
kgiusti+1 - indeed helpful15:25
bnemecgsantomaggio: Cool, thanks. Maybe we should include a link to that from the oslo.messaging docs somewhere?15:26
bnemecOkay, next topic...15:27
bnemec#topic Bandit cap15:27
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gsantomaggioI will15:27
bnemecgsantomaggio: Sounds good, thanks.15:27
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bnemecSo last week we agreed to push a two patch series to each repo, one to cap bandit, and one to uncap.15:27
bnemecHowever, it was pointed out that usually we leave linters capped so new releases don't break us.15:27
bnemecWhen we want a newer version of the linter we just bump the cap appropriately and fix any new issues.15:28
bnemecWhich raises the question of whether we even want to keep the uncap patches.15:28
bnemecI'm kind of leaning toward no, myself.15:29
bnemecI'm not sure why we didn't cap bandit in the first place, but I suspect it was an oversight.15:29
bnemecBut if anyone has more context on that I'd love to hear it.15:29
bnemecUnless someone objects, I'm going to propose that we abandon the uncap patches and just leave bandit capped for the time being.15:31
hberaud+115:31
bnemecOnce again, I'll email the list before doing anything.15:31
bnemec#action bnemec to email list about abandoning bandit uncap patches15:32
bnemecThat's it for topics.15:32
bnemec#topic Weekly Wayward Review15:32
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bnemec#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/647492/15:33
bnemecI'm not sure I fully understand what's going on there, but based on my googling it seems like this is a good fix for the problem.15:33
bnemecI realize we can't merge pbr patches right now, but it would be nice to get a second +2 on it so it's ready to go when ci is unblocked.15:34
moguimarwhat about that single company approval thread?15:35
bnemecThe good news is it's a simple patch too.15:35
moguimarand how many cores per company do we have right now?15:35
bnemecmoguimar: It's not really relevant to us. We have exactly one active core who's not from Red Hat right now.15:35
bnemecAnd he's only around to periodically clear out the needs approval list, AFAICT.15:36
bnemecBasically we don't have enough company diversity to have a meaningful policy on this.15:36
moguimarack15:36
bnemecWhich is pretty much what I said in http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006054.html :-)15:37
bnemecDo we have anyone who can take a look at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/647492/ ?15:37
bnemecIf it helps, maybe I can provide a link to the discussion of the problem that I was looking at.15:38
moguimar+215:40
bnemecmoguimar: Awesome, thanks!15:40
bnemechberaud: Feel free to approve that once pbr ci is working again.15:40
bnemecIf someone else doesn't get to it first, of course.15:41
bnemec#topic Open discussion15:41
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hberaudbnemec: ack15:41
moguimarI got a poster approved for EuroPython on Oslo.Config, Castellan and HashiCorp Vault. So I'm feeling positive about finding some time to fix/polish the docs and examples.15:41
bnemecAnything else this week?15:41
bnemecmoguimar: Nice15:41
moguimara talk on the same topic in in the waiting list15:41
bnemecDefinitely good to socialize that feature since people have been asking about it for so long.15:41
moguimarquite hard to get a slot for EuroPython15:41
moguimaras a talk15:42
bnemecI imagine.15:42
bnemecmoguimar: You had assigned yourself the bug about the docs for the driver being in a private module, right?15:42
moguimarinternal jokes say that it was because I couldn't attend to it in 2017 and had to cancel my talk xD15:42
moguimarI think I have it in my plate15:43
bnemecI'm sure that happens semi-regularly, which is why they have a waiting list.15:43
bnemecOkay, cool.15:43
bnemecOther topics before I give you 15 minutes back?15:44
moguimarnot on my end15:44
bnemecOkay, good meeting. Thanks everyone!15:46
bnemec#endmeeting15:46
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openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/taskflow master: Remove debtcollector requirement  https://review.opendev.org/66016116:23
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bnemecOops, I forgot to actually save the wiki page where I added the ping list. Should be there now.16:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging master: Fix switch connection destination when a rabbitmq cluster node disappear  https://review.opendev.org/65690221:05
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