Monday, 2018-12-17

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openstackgerritSam Wan proposed openstack/oslo.privsep master: Ignore unicode_errors in msgpack  https://review.openstack.org/62288905:54
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openstackgerritJavier Peña proposed openstack/oslo.privsep master: Add futures as a requirement for Python 2  https://review.openstack.org/62550707:58
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openstackgerritSam Wan proposed openstack/oslo.privsep master: Ignore unicode_errors in msgpack  https://review.openstack.org/62288908:37
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yan0sHi I have a question about policies08:45
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yan0sI need a rule for certain users to have write access on stuff only if the owner of the stuff is not role:admin08:46
yan0sis this possible?08:46
yan0sstuff being a specific flavor for example08:48
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openstackgerritJames Page proposed openstack/taskflow master: Move test requirements out of runtime requirements  https://review.openstack.org/61900709:47
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openstackgerritMoisés Guimarães de Medeiros proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Add ability for policy-checker to read configuration  https://review.openstack.org/61665913:13
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yan0scan someone explain variables in policy.json files?14:30
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bnemec#startmeeting oslo15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Dec 17 15:00:30 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'oslo'15:00
bnemeccourtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, ansmith, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims15:00
bnemeccourtesy ping for dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb, haypo15:00
bnemeccourtesy ping for hberaud, jd__, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lhx_15:00
bnemeccourtesy ping for moguimar, njohnston, raildo, redrobot, sileht, sreshetnyak, stephenfin15:00
bnemeccourtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, zhiyan, zxy, zzzeek15:00
bnemec#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting15:00
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moguimarbnemec: how do I feed the agenda?15:03
moguimarif I want to put someting there15:03
bnemecmoguimar: Just edit the wiki page I linked above.15:03
bnemecYou should have access with your launchpad credentials.15:03
bnemecThe same ones as for gerrit.15:03
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bnemec#topic Red flags for/from liaisons15:04
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bnemecThe tooz test jobs are broken with recent versions of grpcio.15:04
bnemecI imagine that means there are problems in production use as well.15:05
bnemecThis is for the etcd3 driver only.15:05
bnemec#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tooz/+bug/180804615:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1808046 in tooz "etcd3 driver failing with "Deadline Exceeded"" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Ben Nemec (bnemec)15:05
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bnemecWe're working on capping the version in g-r and an issue has been opened with the grpc folks.15:06
bnemecI think that's it from the oslo side.15:07
bnemecAny other issues we should know about?15:08
hberaudI also want to speak about the migrator topics https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo.config+branch:master+topic:migrator15:08
bnemecYeah, that's on the agenda. We'll get there.15:08
hberaudto raise the priority if possible, I've made some review on it and submit changes, do someone can take a look?15:09
hberaudbnemec: ack15:09
bnemec#topic Releases15:10
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bnemecBusiness as usual last week and this week.15:10
bnemecThere likely won't be any releases over the holidays however.15:10
bnemecWhich shouldn't be an enormous problem since I doubt there will be a lot of changes merging during that time either. :-)15:11
bnemec#topic Action items from last meeting15:11
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bnemec"dhellmann to re-review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/593556/"15:12
bnemecHe did. Thanks Doug.15:12
bnemecAnd that was it for action items.15:12
bnemec#topic [RFE] Configuration mapping tool for upgrade15:12
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bnemec#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo.config+branch:master+topic:migrator15:12
bnemecSo the problem with this is that all of the folks that were working on it seem to have disappeared.15:13
bnemecWhich concerns me from a long-term maintenance perspective.15:13
bnemecIn addition, this feature requires some coordination with other projects to adopt fully.15:14
hberaudbnemec: which projects we need to coordinate?15:14
bnemecPeople need to use the mapping when changing values from release to release, and someone needs to drive that cross-project work.15:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslosphinx master: Replacing the HTTP protocal with HTTPS in layout.html  https://review.openstack.org/62521815:14
hberaudbnemec: I can start a ML thread to manage this15:14
bnemechberaud: That would be good.15:15
hberaudbnemec: ack15:15
bnemecTo be honest, I'm a little dubious of the value of the tool. I'm not sure how many people are manually writing OpenStack configs in the first place.15:15
bnemecAnd if you're using puppet/ansible/chef/etc. to manage your config then they handle upgrades.15:15
bnemecBut I guess we can discuss this further on the list.15:16
hberaudok15:16
bnemecThanks for bringing it up.15:16
hberaudbnemec: yeah I think it's can be a good approach to choose if we move forward on it15:17
hberaudbnemec: my pleasure15:17
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bnemec#action hberaud to send email to openstack-discuss about oslo.config migrator15:17
* bnemec give jungleboyj the stink-eye :-P15:17
* jungleboyj looks sheepish15:17
bnemecAs if I'd ever be on time for a Monday morning meeting that I wasn't chairing. :-)15:18
bnemec#topic Reviews: oslo.policy: Add ability for policy-checker to read configuration15:18
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bnemec#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/625038/315:18
bnemec#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/616659/715:18
moguimarjust wanted to bring those reviews up15:18
moguimarjaosorior was working on it and I suggested using oslo.config instead of argparse+configparser15:19
moguimarthen he asked me to take it over as he is in PTO15:19
bnemecI know I'm subscribed to those. I saw some discussion around the design of the code.15:19
bnemecAre you just looking for more input?15:19
moguimaryep15:19
moguimarinput/validation15:20
bnemecOkay, I'll try to take a closer look this week.15:20
bnemecYou might also ping some of the keystone folks as they have interest in oslo.policy as well.15:20
moguimarok, thanks Ben15:21
bnemec#action bnemec to look at oslo policy checker reviews15:21
bnemecI really need to take a closer look at the pluggable policy spec too. :-/15:22
bnemecI'm guessing that won't get in until 2019 at this point though.15:22
moguimar#action moguimar to ping keystone folks for the oslo.policy change15:22
moguimarI think jaosorior won't be back til 2019 too15:22
bnemecAnd that leads us neatly into our next topic:15:23
bnemec#topic No meetings next two weeks15:23
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bnemecIt's that time of year when everyone is out for holiday breaks.15:23
* dhellmann slinks in later15:23
jungleboyjWow, how did I beat dhellmann  :-)15:23
bnemecI'm around for the rest of this week, but then I'll be out for the year too.15:24
bnemecI think many of our Oslo cores are in the same boat.15:24
bnemecSo, to sum up, no meetings the next two weeks, mostly likely no releases after this week, and also likely much reduced review activity until 2019.15:25
bnemecI'll send an email to the list just for completeness.15:26
moguimarthis is my last week too15:26
bnemec#action bnemec to send mail to openstack-discuss about EOY plans.15:26
bnemecOkay, that was it for topics.15:27
bnemec#topic Weekly Wayward Review15:27
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bnemecI'm going to skip a couple of feature reviews because we probably can't resolve those here.15:29
bnemec#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/616605/15:29
bnemecThat one's had some discussion already and I think it's ready to go.15:29
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bnemecdhellmann: This one's probably you too since you were -1 before.15:32
dhellmannI'll put that on my queue for this week15:32
dhellmanntoday is going to be busy15:33
dhellmannif someone else looks at it and thinks it's ok, that's fine with me15:33
bnemecOkay, thanks.15:33
bnemec#topic Open discussion15:33
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bnemecAnything else this week?15:34
hberauddo someone can take a look to the workflow validation of this one please? => https://review.openstack.org/#/c/618482/15:34
moguimarIll put that one in my review list hberaud15:36
hberaudmoguimar: thx :)15:36
hberauddhellmann: I put this one on my review list => https://review.openstack.org/#/c/616605/15:37
bnemecThanks guys.15:37
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bnemecOkay, sounds like we're done.15:41
bnemecThanks for joining everyone and see you in 2019!15:41
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hberaudsee you!15:41
bnemec#endmeeting15:41
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hberaudenjoy your PTO15:41
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/tooz master: Unblock tooz gate  https://review.openstack.org/62450822:38
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/tooz master: More explicitly document driver connection strings  https://review.openstack.org/62424722:38
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/tooz master: Wait for etcd3 to complete version negotiation  https://review.openstack.org/62450922:38
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