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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.policy master: generator: Reimplement wrapping of 'description' https://review.openstack.org/485646 | 00:49 |
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| dulek | Hey, is there a way in oslo.config to deprecate a default value of the option? We want to drop what was initially the default value. | 09:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Theodoros Tsioutsias proposed openstack/taskflow master: Create KazooClient with taskflow logger https://review.openstack.org/588200 | 10:17 |
| stephenfin | dulek: You can kind of hack it | 10:45 |
| stephenfin | dulek: Remove the default and then check if it's set in code. If it's not set, set it to the old default but emit a warning that the behavior has changed and the default setting will no longer occur in the future | 10:46 |
| stephenfin | dulek: There might be a better way to do it, especially with dhellmann's work around identifying where a value is actually configured, but that's how we've done it in nova in the past | 10:47 |
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| dulek | stephenfin: I thought of that, but hoped for automated solution. Thanks! :) | 11:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andras Kovi proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: Call listener stop only if listener is initialized https://review.openstack.org/588217 | 11:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack/oslo.reports master: Update unit test to reflect latest oslo.config https://review.openstack.org/588088 | 15:31 |
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| cfriesen | kgiusti: sileht: mriedem suggested you folks were the ones to ask....just wanted to confirm that with rabbitmq we default to non-durable queues and non-persistent messages. (And just for interest, is there even a way to ask for persistent messages with the rabbitmq driver?) | 15:37 |
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| kgiusti | cfriesen: yes by default non-durable queues and exchanges are used. This can be overridden by the setting the amqp_durable_queues config item to True (it's in the [oslo_messaging_rabbit] config group) | 16:13 |
| kgiusti | cfriesen: as far as message persistence: by default all messages should be marked as persistent | 16:13 |
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| kgiusti | cfriesen: whether or not this results in storing to disk depends on how rabbit is configured AFAIKT | 16:14 |
| cfriesen | kgiusti: where is the message persistence set? I only saw mention of it for pika. | 16:14 |
| cfriesen | kgiusti: also, the help text for amqp_durable_queues seems to say it's no longer applicable for RAbbitMQ 3.0 | 16:16 |
| kgiusti | cfriesen: amqp_durable_queues no longer applicable? I see a note for rabbit_ha_queues but not for amqp_durable_queues (master) - what release are you using? | 16:20 |
| cfriesen | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/oslo_messaging/_drivers/impl_rabbit.py#L170 | 16:21 |
| cfriesen | ah, right. that's rabbit_ha_queues | 16:22 |
| kgiusti | cfriesen: the amqp_durable_queues value is passed to all exchange and queues created by the rabbit driver | 16:22 |
| kgiusti | cfriesen: the rabbit driver does not set the "delivery-mode" when publishing - according to the kombu docs it defaults to persistent: http://docs.celeryproject.org/projects/kombu/en/latest/reference/kombu.html?highlight=persistent#kombu.Exchange.delivery_mode | 16:24 |
| cfriesen | kgiusti: ah, okay. much appreciated. | 16:25 |
| cfriesen | so if you have a persistent message on a non-durable queue, does the queue (and all the messages) gets deleted if the server dies/restarts? | 16:26 |
| kgiusti | cfriesen: honestly I'm not sure what happens in that case :( | 16:28 |
| kgiusti | cfriesen: this https://asafdav2.github.io/2017/rabbit-mq-persistentcy-vs-durability/ implies persistence requires durable queues and exchanges. | 16:29 |
| cfriesen | makes sense, thanks | 16:35 |
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| rm_work | Hey, I think maybe I have bad settings for oslo_messaging for my RMQ connection -- I am getting a ton of errors about missing heartbeats, though stuff seems to "work" still | 23:30 |
| rm_work | http://paste.openstack.org/show/727191/ | 23:30 |
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