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| openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/oslo.limit master: Fix CI https://review.openstack.org/586768 | 01:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/futurist master: Update reno for stable/rocky https://review.openstack.org/586077 | 02:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/oslo.limit master: ADD i18n file https://review.openstack.org/586759 | 08:15 |
| openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/oslo.limit master: Add opts file https://review.openstack.org/586760 | 08:15 |
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| cdent | Is oslotest a reasonable place for common fixtures? I'm thinking of things like nova's StandardLogging https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/fixtures.py#L111 and OutputStreamCapture: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/fixtures.py#L182 | 13:16 |
| cdent | I want to reuse those in the eventually extracted placement, so putting them somewhere common would be nice | 13:18 |
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| sileht | cdent, OutputStreamCapture is already part of oslotest I think https://github.com/openstack/oslotest/blob/master/oslotest/output.py#L20 | 13:20 |
| cdent | sileht: it's mosty there, but lacks the details handling | 13:21 |
| cdent | I didn't find it intially as the docs didn't really make it clear | 13:21 |
| sileht | cdent, same for the Logging fixture https://github.com/openstack/oslotest/blob/master/oslotest/log.py | 13:21 |
| sileht | cdent, there are "almost" the same :p | 13:22 |
| * cdent nods | 13:22 | |
| cdent | they're not very obvious from the docs | 13:22 |
| cdent | I was expected to see a "fixtures" section | 13:22 |
| cdent | In "Using oslotest" | 13:22 |
| cdent | but happy to see them anyway, thanks | 13:23 |
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| cdent | hrmmm, nova's StandardLogging is much different from ConfigureLogging. Trying to figure out a way to subclass intelligently | 14:56 |
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| redrobot_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| bnemec | #startmeeting oslo | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 30 15:01:23 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 15:01 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, ansmith, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims | 15:01 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb, haypo | 15:01 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for jd__, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lhx_, njohnston | 15:01 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for raildo, redrobot, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, stephenfin, stevemar | 15:01 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for therve, thinrichs, toabctl, zhiyan, zxy, zzzeek | 15:01 |
| redrobot_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 15:01 |
| njohnston | o/ | 15:01 |
| ansmith | o/ | 15:01 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | .o. | 15:02 |
| bnemec | smcginnis: t-rex wave? ;-) | 15:02 |
| njohnston | ~o~ | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | bnemec: Just peeking over the wall. ;) | 15:02 |
| bnemec | Gotcha :-) | 15:02 |
| bnemec | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:03 | |
| jungleboyj | Nothing from me. | 15:04 |
| bnemec | We're in the library freeze, so not much going on right now for Oslo. | 15:04 |
| bnemec | We did release pbr and oslo.service last week. | 15:04 |
| bnemec | pbr just deprecated some things so it shouldn't affect anyone in openstack, and oslo.service fixed a bug stopping services. | 15:04 |
| bnemec | I guess that's kind of for the next section. :-) | 15:05 |
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| e0ne | hi | 15:05 |
| bnemec | o/ | 15:06 |
| bnemec | #topic Releases | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:06 | |
| bnemec | As I mentioned, releases have been pretty quiet. | 15:06 |
| bnemec | I do need to go through our stable branches because I believe some fixes have merged to them recently. | 15:06 |
| bnemec | I don't anticipate any master releases this week, but if you know of something critical that we need to get out let me know. | 15:07 |
| bnemec | #topic Action items from last meeting | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:08 | |
| bnemec | Apparently there were none, so moving right along... | 15:08 |
| bnemec | #topic PTG planning etherpad | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG planning etherpad (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:08 | |
| bnemec | No new topics this week either, but here's a reminder that the etherpad exists. | 15:09 |
| bnemec | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-stein-ptg-planning | 15:09 |
| bnemec | #topic Weekly Wayward Review | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Weekly Wayward Review (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:10 | |
| bnemec | Still in feature freeze, so we can't do much with most of these. | 15:10 |
| bnemec | I did notice that https://review.openstack.org/581417 | 15:10 |
| bnemec | ...merged. | 15:11 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: ansmith: Is that something we need to get out this cycle yet? | 15:11 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: no - it's not a regression | 15:11 |
| bnemec | (I should say it was approved, not merged yet) | 15:12 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: can it be moved to stein? | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | Seems like a good thing to have at the start of stein just in case there's any kind of side effects. | 15:12 |
| kgiusti | smcginnis: +1 | 15:12 |
| bnemec | I think as long as we don't release oslo.messaging again this cycle it should end up in stein? | 15:13 |
| kgiusti | my bad - I should've marked it WIP once we froze | 15:13 |
| ansmith | actually my bad | 15:13 |
| bnemec | The issue would be if we had a critical bug that needed to be fixed, but I guess we could always revert. | 15:13 |
| bnemec | Or we could -2 it and block it from merging now. | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | bnemec: Did we create stable/rocky for oslo.messaging? If so, we should be safe. | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | Yep, looks like we did. | 15:14 |
| bnemec | smcginnis: I'm not aware of any branches being cut yet. | 15:14 |
| bnemec | TIL | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | So master is stein at this point. | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, all non-client libs should have been branched with that deadline a couple weeks ago. | 15:14 |
| bnemec | Okay, perfect. | 15:14 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: sooo... is master actually stein now? | 15:15 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: Yep | 15:15 |
| bnemec | Which I guess means we can go ahead and start merging stuff again. | 15:16 |
| kgiusti | huzzah! - time for deprecation cleanups! :) | 15:16 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: That is just a statement for Oslo. Right? | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | Anything needed for rocky will need to be backported to stable/rocky to get released. | 15:16 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: os-brick should be branched too. | 15:16 |
| bnemec | Although probably best not to go too crazy. If we make a bunch of changes and need to backport something from the same area of code it could be a headache. | 15:16 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. That makes sense. We already released that. | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: And if you didn't include that for the client libs, I'll be running a script to catch all the missed ones this week. | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | bnemec: ++ | 15:17 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: party pooper ;) | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | :) | 15:17 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: Although if the code is being removed completely then we don't need to backport. We'd just fix it on the rocky branch. | 15:17 |
| bnemec | So if you want to kill the zmq driver with fire that's probably okay. ;-) | 15:18 |
| * kgiusti re-lights his flamethrower... | 15:18 | |
| bnemec | Okay, sounds like we're in good shape here then. | 15:18 |
| bnemec | #topic Open discussion | 15:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:19 | |
| bnemec | Anything else? | 15:19 |
| smcginnis | Anything on the PTL election? :) | 15:19 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: there's a couple of mass changes related to rocky branch: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:create-rocky+(status:open+OR+status:merged),75 | 15:19 |
| kgiusti | and https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:reno-rocky+(status:open+OR+status:merged),25 | 15:20 |
| * jungleboyj needs to get my candidacy out there. | 15:20 | |
| bnemec | smcginnis: I was working on my nomination right before the meeting. | 15:20 |
| jungleboyj | for Cinder of course. | 15:20 |
| bnemec | I expect it to be up shortly. | 15:20 |
| * bnemec submits jungleboyj for Oslo too. ;-) | 15:20 | |
| smcginnis | bnemec: Excellent | 15:20 |
| * jungleboyj cries out 'Noooo!!!!' | 15:21 | |
| bnemec | IRC logs are forever. I can take that quote out of context and most people will never bother to verify. ;-) | 15:22 |
| jungleboyj | Well, this has taken a left hand turn. | 15:23 |
| bnemec | Alright, since this has devolved into trolling jungleboyj I think we're done. :-) | 15:23 |
| bnemec | #endmeeting | 15:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Common Libraries | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo" | 15:24 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 30 15:24:04 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-07-30-15.01.html | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-07-30-15.01.txt | 15:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-07-30-15.01.log.html | 15:24 |
| jungleboyj | Bye. | 15:24 |
| bnemec | Thanks for coming everyone! | 15:24 |
| * bnemec forgot that | 15:24 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/debtcollector master: Add release note link in README https://review.openstack.org/580437 | 15:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging master: Issue blocking ACK for RPC requests from the consumer thread https://review.openstack.org/581417 | 15:48 |
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| mordred | bnemec: responded about pbr and tarballs to the ML and on the bug | 17:47 |
| mordred | bnemec: but happy to chat about it in the IRCs if that would be helpful | 17:48 |
| bnemec | mordred: Yeah, I saw that. Thanks. | 17:49 |
| bnemec | mordred: I guess my major concern is that a lot of people use github (hence why we bother to mirror our repos there) and it's not at all obvious that those tarballs aren't expected to work. | 17:50 |
| bnemec | If we can't fix it, we can't fix it, but if we can I think we should. | 17:50 |
| mordred | yeah- I'm not really sure what to do about that- other than just getting rid of our mirrring | 17:50 |
| mordred | because it causes a ton of confusion from people who think we actually use github | 17:51 |
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| * bnemec would be a little sad if that happened | 17:53 | |
| bnemec | I understand the objections, but I just find the github ui easier to deal with in many cases. | 17:53 |
| mordred | totally understand | 17:53 |
| mordred | so it seems it is possible to delete releases via the github api | 17:53 |
| bnemec | rm * | 17:54 |
| bnemec | :-) | 17:54 |
| mordred | unfortunately, I think it would be a surprising amount of work to get even that working- as we'd run in to API instability as well as rate limits | 17:55 |
| bnemec | Yeah, I don't imagine that their API gets hit with a lot of requests to delete hundreds of releases across hundreds of projects very often. | 17:55 |
| mordred | I can't see any way to disable the autocreation of them | 17:55 |
| * mordred has to run get a sandwich - biab | 17:56 | |
| bnemec | Yeah, I didn't see anything in one of the projects I have admin on. | 17:57 |
| bnemec | Maybe it would be worth an RFE with them though. | 17:58 |
| * mordred will ping jlk and see what he thinks | 18:02 | |
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| bnemec | mordred: Looks like it's already been requested: https://github.community/t5/How-to-use-Git-and-GitHub/Tag-without-release/m-p/7906 | 18:04 |
| bnemec | But currently it's not possible. | 18:04 |
| mordred | bnemec: awesome | 18:04 |
| bnemec | The good news is it's only been open for a couple of months and they seem open to the idea, so maybe it will happen at some point. | 18:06 |
| mordred | bnemec: " each tag creates a release point but does not actually create a release. Releases themselves are created when you add release notes to a tag." | 18:06 |
| mordred | that is not consistent with the behavior I see | 18:06 |
| bnemec | Yeah, the subsequent discussion suggests it's a UI issue. | 18:06 |
| mordred | oh - that's what message #4 says | 18:06 |
| bnemec | Even though there's no "release" created, it still shows up in the releases tab. | 18:06 |
| mordred | yeah. seems like a ui issue | 18:06 |
| mordred | bnemec: maybe the right choice is for us to just continue doing nothing and maybe the problem will resolve itself :) | 18:08 |
| bnemec | mordred: Sounds like it. I don't think we want to spend a ton of time on this and then have github fix it the next day. :-) | 18:09 |
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| mordred | ++ | 18:10 |
| bnemec | mordred: Thanks for following up on this. | 18:10 |
| mordred | bnemec: if you ever want some fun, go browse out the closed PRs for things, such as: https://github.com/openstack/nova/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Apr | 18:10 |
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| clarkb | mordred: timburke: re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587208/1 it looks like the zuul account might be zuul@openstack.org ? | 22:44 |
| clarkb | the regex won't match ^ bu tsomeone else should double check the email addr for me | 22:45 |
| mordred | clarkb: Author: Zuul <zuul@review.openstack.org> | 22:49 |
| clarkb | ah ok, I think the git commit doesn't line up with the gerrit account then | 22:50 |
| clarkb | (not a huge deal) | 22:50 |
| clarkb | I guess when gerrit merges stuff it adds users@gerrit-server and ignores their email addrs | 22:50 |
| mordred | clarkb: how nice of it | 22:51 |
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