Monday, 2018-06-04

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.policy master: Remove erroneous newline in sample generation  https://review.openstack.org/57183007:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging master: Add ConfFixture.transport_url  https://review.openstack.org/57008207:30
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bnemec#startmeeting oslo15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun  4 15:00:34 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'oslo'15:00
bnemeccourtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, ansmith, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims15:00
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bnemec#topic Red flags for/from liaisons15:02
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bnemecNothing that immediately comes to mind from the Oslo side.15:02
bnemecOkay, sounds like everything is quiet.15:05
bnemecWhich is good. :-)15:05
bnemec#topic Releases15:05
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bnemecI think the major thing of note here was the oslo.messaging release last week.  It added the heartbeating functionality, so projects can start consuming that.15:05
bnemecI was a bit late with the releases because of the Monday holiday in the US, so there may be a smaller list of them for this week.15:06
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bnemeckgiusti: Would you and/or dansmith maybe like to send something to the mailing list to announce this new feature?15:07
bnemecI don't know how many people outside of nova and oslo know about it.15:07
bnemecAnd it sounded like something that might be useful to other teams as well.15:07
kgiustibnemec: I certainly will, but I'd like to get the amqp1 driver working with the feature first.15:08
dansmithbnemec: I can, but I was kinda hoping to get the support landed in nova and proven in the gate before I go asking other people to use it15:08
kgiustibnemec: that's the only other driver that supports RPC15:08
bnemecOkay, that makes sense.15:08
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kgiustibnemec: which I should be working on right now if I wasn't in oslo.messaging stable branch hell.15:08
bnemeckgiusti: Anything you need help on?15:09
kgiustibnemec: yep - let's talk at the end of the meeting15:09
bnemeckgiusti: Ack, added to the agenda.15:10
kgiustity15:10
bnemec#topic Action items from last meeting15:11
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bnemec"jungleboyj to send bnemec Cinder onboarding agenda" <- Done, and thanks.15:11
jungleboyjbnemec:  Welcome.15:11
bnemec"bnemec to send email about Oslo meeting cancellations" <- Also done15:11
bnemec"Oslo cores to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450956/"15:12
bnemecWe actually kind of wrapped that one up in the meeting.15:12
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bnemec"bnemec to respond to mox removal goal"15:12
bnemecI think I at least assigned myself to that one, so done-ish.15:13
bnemecI know we've had some patches landing that are related to it as well.15:13
bnemecAnd that was it for action items.15:13
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bnemec#topic pbr gate broken15:14
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bnemecThis is kind of an Oslo-internal red flag, but the pbr gate is currently blocked.15:14
bnemecAll of the integration test jobs are failing due to cmd2.15:14
bnemecI think I have a patch ready to go that will use upper-constraints to protect us against that though, so hopefully it will be unblocked by EOD.15:14
bnemecAnd on a similar note...15:15
bnemec#topic oslo.messaging stable branches15:15
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bnemeckgiusti: You're up!15:15
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kgiustithanks - there are two patches that are not able to merge to stable/queens and stable/ocata15:16
kgiustithe failures appear to not be related.  First queens:15:16
kgiustihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/567124/115:16
kgiustitelemetry failure for rabbit: http://logs.openstack.org/24/567124/1/check/oslo.messaging-telemetry-dsvm-integration-rabbit/e7fdc7d/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-05-16_05_20_05_62688215:16
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kgiustiI think the cause is due to the latest version of heat-tempest-plugin is being used for the test - right off of HEAD - but an incompatible gabbi from u.c.txt15:17
kgiustiIf that is the case, we need to use an older version of heat-tempest-plugin, but AFAIKT that project has no queens branch...15:18
bnemecHmm, we probably need to bring that up with the Heat team.  I would think this affects their stable branches too, right?15:18
kgiustibnemec: one would think, but the way we define the zuul job may be incorrect:15:19
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kgiustihttps://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.messaging/tree/.zuul.yaml#n19515:19
kgiustiIIRC require-projects are always checked out from the head of the 'correct' branch15:20
kgiustibut in any case I'll start with the heat folks and see where I get.15:20
bnemecYeah, but if it's a branchless project then it needs to maintain compatibility with stable branch requirements.15:20
kgiustiOK, I'll reach out to heat on that one.15:21
bnemecTalking to the Heat team seems like a sane first step in any case.15:21
kgiusti+1 will do.15:21
bnemec#action kgiusti to sync up with Heat team on heat-tempest-plugin incompatibility with stable gabbi15:21
kgiustiThe ocata issue appears to be related to sphinx + oslo.config:15:22
kgiustihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/567121/15:22
kgiustihttp://logs.openstack.org/21/567121/1/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/cc3d7d6/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-05-16_12_08_03_18200315:22
kgiustiNot sure how to tell which version of oslo.config is being used from the zuul output.15:23
kgiustisphinx is v 1.3.615:23
bnemecHmm, we are somewhat lacking in useful logs there, aren't we?15:24
kgiustibnemec: welcome to my nightmare.15:24
bnemecDoes this reproduce locally?15:24
kgiustiI've only run it via zuul but yes every time.15:25
bnemecI'm just thinking it might be easier to debug locally than in the gate, although the gate doesn't run things exactly the same as tox necessarily. :-/15:27
bnemecInteresting.  I get a different error locally.15:28
bnemecsphinx.errors.ExtensionError: Could not import extension oslo_config.sphinxext (exception: cannot import name logging)15:28
bnemecWell, let's take a look at this after the meeting.15:28
kgiustiyep I see that too15:28
kgiusti+115:28
bnemec#topic Weekly Wayward Review15:29
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bnemec#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511971/15:29
bnemecI'm wondering if cliff is even supposed to be in Oslo or if it's part of the sdk now.15:30
bnemecAlthough I do have +2 on the repo, which suggests Oslo.15:30
bnemecLooks like dhellmann might be the person to talk to about that.15:32
bnemecMaybe just WIP it since no one seems sure if this is the right approach?15:33
dhellmannit should have been moved under sdk, but I think we left the oslo team as part of the core team15:33
dhellmannhmm, apparently we never moved cliff over: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/projects/openstacksdk.html15:33
dhellmannah, there it is: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/projects/openstackclient.html15:34
dhellmannnot SDK, CLI15:34
bnemecdhellmann: Okay, so I should just remove this from the Oslo review list.15:35
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dhellmannit would be nice to get some reviews there, but you don't need to track it as part of the oslo team15:35
bnemec#action bnemec to remove cliff from Oslo review list15:36
bnemecYeah, the review has been open a long time so it would be nice to do something with it, whether it's technically Oslo or not.15:36
dhellmannI imagine dtroyer has been pretty busy with StarlingX lately15:38
bnemecYeah15:38
bnemecI guess this is another partial success for this topic.  We identified an action to be taken, but didn't actually close out the review. :-/15:39
bnemecI suppose there's a reason these reviews have been open so long.15:40
bnemec#topic Open discussion15:40
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dhellmannyeah15:40
bnemecAnything else before we close?15:40
bnemecOkay, thanks for joining everyone.  Talk to you next week.15:43
bnemec#endmeeting15:43
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: Move pbr-installation jobs in-tree  https://review.openstack.org/57157115:45
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: Use upper-constraints in integration tests  https://review.openstack.org/57215015:45
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bnemec"Microsoft is acquiring GitHub!"15:46
bnemec:-(15:46
kgiustiwhere are we going, and why are we all in this hand-basket?15:46
bnemeckgiusti: So the logging import was added in https://github.com/openstack/oslo.config/commit/03ff144f0bf386982d379d18aeb9183146a05fd515:48
bnemecWhich is just a few months ago.  That shouldn't have ended up on an ocata version.15:48
bnemecExcept we use released versions.  Hmm.15:49
kgiustihuh15:49
kgiustipoint to consider - tox -edocs in oslo.mess is using oslo.config 6.2.1, which is way past ocata15:50
kgiustibnemec: looking at the tox.ini - there is no constraint on the docs build15:50
kgiustibnemec: adding the constraint doesn't appear to hold oslo.config back, either :P15:51
bnemecDid we have u-c in ocata?15:51
kgiustibnemec: not in the tox.ini entry for "docs" - probably should be, no?15:51
bnemecI'm wondering if we even had that functionality though.15:51
bnemecOh, yeah: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/tree/upper-constraints.txt?h=stable/ocata15:51
kgiustibnemec: but adding that to the docs's deps didn't work15:51
kgiustibnemec: when I re-installed oslo.config by hand to the proper 3.22.2 version, _then_ I got the 'TypeError: '<' not supported between instances of 'str' and 'NoneType' issue we're seeing in zuul15:52
bnemecu-c for oslo.config is still 3.22.0 http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/tree/upper-constraints.txt?h=stable/ocata#n23715:52
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kgiustibnemec: right, but even if we use 3.22.0, that TypeError is showing up when I run tox -edocs locally (in oslo.mess)15:55
bnemecOh, I bet setup.py build_sphinx isn't respect u-c.15:56
bnemecOkay, manual installation it is.15:57
bnemecGah, tox insists on updating oslo.config no matter what I do.16:01
bnemecThis is starting to piss me off.16:01
kgiustiRIght - I manually activated .tox/docs/bin/activate16:02
kgiustimanually installed oslo.config, then ran the build_sphinx command directly16:02
kgiustiyes - I feel like punching a kitten.  A really, really adorable one...16:02
bnemecI had a really adorable bunny at my house last week.16:03
bnemecIt got relocated though, so it's safe from requirements-related violence.16:04
kgiustiluckily I'm not *that* pissed off... yet.16:04
bnemecOkay, I completely removed the docs deps override and now "docs: commands succeeded"16:07
bnemecWTF?16:07
kgiustihuh?16:07
bnemecI wonder if we're missing a requirement in the docs venv that gets pulled in if we install everything.16:07
bnemecI removed the "deps = -r{toxinidir}/doc/requirements.txt" from the docs venv so it will just get the regular testenv requirements.16:08
kgiustiI just removed the same, but I get the TypeError issue!16:10
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bnemeckgiusti: Did you completely rebuild the venv afterward?16:12
kgiustibnemec: git clean -fdx; tox -edocs ---> TypeError16:13
kgiustibnemec: diff show tox.ini with deps = .... commented out for docs testenv16:13
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bnemechttp://paste.openstack.org/show/722664/16:16
bnemecMaybe git clean doesn't remove hidden dirs?16:17
bnemecNot that this is a useful result anyway.  It just means I've failed to reproduce the problem locally.16:17
kgiustiyeah my .tox is gone after git clean -fdx16:18
bnemecOh, this is running under py3 now in the gate.16:23
kgiustibnemec: yes, as am I (3.6)16:24
bnemecI wish that change hadn't applied to stable branches.16:24
bnemecWe're liable to be chasing these kinds of problems a bunch. :-(16:25
kgiusti"commands succeeded" - python 2.7!16:25
bnemecYeah, and now I see the problem in py3.16:25
bnemecTypeError: unorderable types: str() < NoneType()16:25
kgiustibingo!16:25
kgiustishould I add "basepython" to the test?16:26
bnemecIt won't help.  The gate doesn't use the tox config for running docs jobs.16:26
kgiusti:(16:27
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kgiustibnemec: this is a bug in oslo.config in the sphinxext.py from what I can tell - I'll see if I can fix it there.16:31
bnemeckgiusti: I think it was this: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.config/commit/d7931f25738a435574cd2d7740c650c78d71fdc2#diff-8e8e59e217b3e697f815c754e0acd12516:32
kgiustibingo again!16:32
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kgiustiI can backport that patch16:33
bnemecIt feels weird to backport that to oslo.config in ocata though for something that we didn't support in that release.16:33
kgiustiI'm beyond feelings at this point - think I need to grab lunch....16:33
bnemecdhellmann: Do you have any thoughts on this?  We broke some docs jobs in ocata by moving everything to python3 in the gate.16:34
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bnemecThe simplest option is probably just to backport the config change.16:35
bnemecI guess since we claim python 3 support for oslo.config it is valid to backport a python 3 support patch.16:35
clarkbyou can run the python2 job on ocata if you need to16:38
bnemecYeah, I was kind of hoping to avoid having to go through and conditionalize all of the oslo projects that way.16:39
clarkbfixing it is another option too :)16:39
bnemecAlthough we may very well run into other problems like this.16:40
dhellmannbnemec , kgiusti : do you have a log for the failed job? I'm lost in scrollback...16:40
bnemecdhellmann: http://logs.openstack.org/21/567121/1/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/cc3d7d6/job-output.txt.gz16:40
bnemecIt only shows up on python 3.16:40
dhellmannah16:41
dhellmannyeah16:41
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dhellmannclarkb's suggestion is probably the right approach. I just switched us over to py3 completely, but I should have left py2 for the older branches16:41
dhellmannI'm not sure if there's a convenient way to say that in the zuul config16:41
dhellmannif we have a simple fix we could just back port it, too16:41
bnemecI see some16:42
bnemec- octavia-v1-dsvm-py3x-scenario:16:42
bnemec            voting: false16:42
bnemec            branches: ^(?!stable)16:42
bnemectype jobs16:42
clarkbthe config would be branches: stable/(ocata|pike/queens) on the python2 job then the inverse of that on the py3 job16:42
dhellmannwe will want the py3 job to stay on stable/rocky and later, which is going to make it more complicated16:42
dhellmannah, yeah, thanks clarkb16:42
bnemecThe oslo.config fix for the bug is pretty simple though: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.config/commit/d7931f25738a435574cd2d7740c650c78d71fdc2#diff-8e8e59e217b3e697f815c754e0acd12516:42
dhellmannlet's just backport it16:42
dhellmannbnemec : it was just in the sphinxext code, right? so  no side-effects elsewhere?16:43
bnemecdhellmann: Looks like it.16:44
bnemecIt's just because we were trying to sort on group name in sphinxext.16:44
dhellmannyeah16:46
bnemeckgiusti: Okay, let's go ahead with the backport.16:46
dhellmannI can help with reviews of the backports16:46
bnemecIf this becomes a recurring problem we can always revisit project-config.16:46
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dhellmann++16:46
kgiusti+116:46
dhellmannbackporting will let us release the fix for other projects who will be switching their doc jobs, too16:46
dhellmannand that may make switching simpler for them16:47
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bnemecIt looks like this was already backported to pike, so it just needs to get to ocata.16:48
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bnemecLooks like it cherry-picked cleanly: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572167/16:49
bnemecThat might be the first thing that has worked as expected for me today.16:50
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kgiustibnemec: don't celebrate just yet16:53
* bnemec sticks his fingers in his ears16:53
kgiustibnemec: running that patched oslo.config against oslo.messaging (in py3) fails for an entirely new issue:16:54
kgiustiTypeError: strftime() argument 1 must be str, not bytes16:54
kgiustiYep, str/bytes conflict16:54
bnemecBah16:55
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kgiustibnemec: perhaps sticking to py2 on ocata is the safer approach?16:56
kgiustibnemec: 'cause this smells like "rathole" to me....16:56
bnemecYeah. :-(16:56
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dhellmannoh, bother17:25
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prometheanfiredoes oslo control the taskflow project?17:49
clarkbopenstack/governance says yes17:49
dhellmannit is an oslo project. I'm not sure "control" is the right word. ;-)17:49
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prometheanfire:P17:53
prometheanfirewas going to ask about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568908/17:53
dhellmannprometheanfire : maybe bnemec can add that to the priority list17:53
dhellmannI don't know why it was capped in the first place or what protection we might want to put in place17:54
prometheanfirethat'd be nice, there are a couple of others that need it, (watcher/vitrage/dib) but that's it17:54
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bnemecAs I recall, there were some legitimate incompatibilities in 2.0 that required changes in some projects.17:55
bnemecSince it's passing ci, I assume those were either fixed or didn't exist in taskflow.17:56
prometheanfirewell, it's passing CI because constranits are used17:56
dhellmannwell, CI is constrained17:56
dhellmannmaybe we want to move the < setting to the g-r list?17:56
dhellmannalthough that would move it further from the thing that's going to break if the cap is removed17:56
prometheanfiregr was capped17:56
prometheanfirewe are working on updating networkx17:56
dhellmannah17:57
prometheanfirethat bag of fun...17:57
dhellmannit sounds like someone may need to do some work in taskflow then. we might have to ask for volunteers17:57
bnemecI added Josh to the review.  He might not have time to make the changes, but at least he might have any idea of what needs to be touched.17:58
prometheanfireya, diskimage-builder is having problems supporting 1.x and 2.x at the same time17:59
prometheanfireso they don't want to uncap17:59
prometheanfirebut uncapping is part of moving to 2.x17:59
prometheanfireso, chicken and egg17:59
dhellmannit seems like as long as we don't have a project being used from source, and we have fixes for the update, we should be able to work out a way to switch from 1 to 218:02
dhellmannit's simpler if we can support both at once, but it's not impossible to skip that phase18:02
dhellmannmeeting time, bbiab18:02
prometheanfireyep18:02
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mtreinishbnemec, mordred: https://review.openstack.org/571503 passes now with the octaviaclient release today20:25
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bnemecBleh, now I have no way to test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57215020:53
mtreinishbnemec: push a DNM patch on top that sets an octavia client cap?20:54
bnemecmtreinish: Yeah, except that job doesn't use the pbr requirements.  I'd have to have the test check out a capped version of the other project it's testing.20:56
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr master: Revert "Remove win32/nt checks for wrapper script gen"  https://review.openstack.org/57150323:19
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