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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: Don't poke in pip for requests https://review.openstack.org/565089 | 01:30 |
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| pooja_jadhav | dhellmann: Hi | 04:56 |
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| pooja_jadhav | dhellmann: Actually, monty has proposed patch[1] and that got merged. He has added split_loggers functionality in keystoneauth. Now I am trying to use that split_loggers parameter in core projects for enabling split logging. So instead of adding split_loggers parameter in individual projects, can we add one config option in oslo.log for split_loggers so that, all core projects can use that config option for enabling the split logging. Please | 05:10 |
| pooja_jadhav | give me your suggestions on the same. [1]https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505764 | 05:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: Special case long_description_content_type https://review.openstack.org/565177 | 09:33 |
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| dhellmann | pooja_jadhav : if this is a configuration option for keystoneauth, it seems like it should live in that library not in the logging library | 13:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: make the sphinxpolicygen extension handle multiple input/output files https://review.openstack.org/564627 | 14:11 |
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| bnemec | #startmeeting oslo | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 30 15:00:42 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 15:00 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, ansmith, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims | 15:01 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb, haypo | 15:01 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for jd__, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lhx_, raildo | 15:01 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for redrobot, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, stephenfin, stevemar, therve | 15:01 |
| bnemec | courtesy ping for thinrichs, toabctl, zhiyan, zxy, zzzeek | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:01 |
| stephenfin | o/ | 15:01 |
| ansmith | o/ | 15:01 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 15:01 |
| bnemec | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 15:03 |
| jungleboyj | O/ | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:03 | |
| jungleboyj | Peripherally here. | 15:03 |
| jungleboyj | No red flag. | 15:03 |
| bnemec | I don't recall anything going on from the Oslo side. | 15:03 |
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| bnemec | #topic Releases for Rocky | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases for Rocky (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:04 | |
| bnemec | Still business as usual here too. | 15:04 |
| bnemec | I think all the eventlet uncapping releases have happened at this point. | 15:05 |
| bnemec | And I do still need to make releases for the stable Oslo branches. | 15:05 |
| bnemec | #action bnemec to release Oslo stable branches | 15:05 |
| jungleboyj | Smcginnis is working on resolving the table Henderson issues for continuing options. | 15:05 |
| bnemec | jungleboyj: Cool | 15:06 |
| * bnemec guesses Henderson is autocorrect at work ;-) | 15:07 | |
| bnemec | It would be good to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561928/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543498/ in on the stable branches first. | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | that second one sounds weird | 15:08 |
| jungleboyj | *generation | 15:08 |
| jungleboyj | Sorry, was on my phone for a little bit there. | 15:09 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Basically the initial implementation was backward, so it doesn't do what it says it does. | 15:09 |
| bnemec | jungleboyj: np | 15:09 |
| kgiusti | heh | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | ok, I've approved both of those patches | 15:10 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Great, thanks! | 15:10 |
| bnemec | I think that's it for release-related stuff. | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | jungleboyj : and here I thought that was some sort of slang | 15:10 |
| bnemec | #topic Action items from last meeting | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:10 | |
| dhellmann | bnemec : it would be good if we could get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/564627/ into an oslo.policy release this week | 15:11 |
| bnemec | "Investigate why pika is in so many lower-constraints files" | 15:11 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Yeah, sorry I didn't get back to that Friday. | 15:11 |
| bnemec | It's still on my list. | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | np, mriedem added tests today so it was worth waiting | 15:11 |
| bnemec | I think we actually resolved the pika question during the meeting. | 15:12 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Yeah, but this just reinforces my procrastination habit. :-) | 15:12 |
| bnemec | "Send email about pip-check-reqs to gauge interest in keeping it" | 15:12 |
| kgiusti | crickets | 15:12 |
| bnemec | I haven't seen any responses to that yet, although I haven't gotten through my email yet this morning. | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | it's easy to restore if we want it again later | 15:13 |
| kgiusti | no response to either my message on -dev nor the upstream project on git. | 15:13 |
| kgiusti | "He's dead, Jim" | 15:13 |
| kgiusti | dhellmann: +1 | 15:13 |
| bnemec | Yeah | 15:13 |
| bnemec | So do we want to rip out all those tox checks then? | 15:14 |
| bnemec | Or just leave them since nobody is using them anyway? | 15:14 |
| bnemec | Theoretically it would be possible to run them using an older version of pip. | 15:15 |
| kgiusti | that's a fair point | 15:15 |
| dhellmann | if we can make the tox configuration work, we should. otherwise, we should remove it. | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | if someone wants to resurrect it, they can look at the git history and restore it then fix it | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | but if we leave it there, it will always be a question of "does this work? should it? why is it here?" | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | let's keep the tox file tidy | 15:17 |
| kgiusti | even if we made it work with old pip, the tool is essentially abandoned | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | yeah, so we are going to just have more things breaking it over time it sounds like | 15:17 |
| bnemec | Okay, sounds like we want to remove it. Any volunteers? | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | the best way to find missing dependencies is to be strict about what we install in test jobs and have good test coverage | 15:18 |
| kgiusti | +1 to pulling it from the tox files. I'll take a crack at patching it | 15:18 |
| bnemec | I think we're getting better at that now. The test VMs have a lot less installed by default. | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | yep | 15:18 |
| kgiusti | for oslo projects that is | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | kgiusti : is it used elsewhere? | 15:18 |
| bnemec | #action kgiusti remove pip-check-reqs from tox.ini | 15:19 |
| kgiusti | dhellmann: http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=pip_check_reqs&i=nope&files=&repos= | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | a few other projects do seem to use it | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | http://paste.openstack.org/show/720146/ | 15:19 |
| kgiusti | dhellmann: not much work - I'll take them all. | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | sounds good, thanks | 15:20 |
| bnemec | Oh good, we were inconsistent about how we named this: http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=pip-missing-reqs&i=nope&files=&repos= | 15:20 |
| kgiusti | ugh | 15:21 |
| bnemec | Hmm, or is that a different project altogether? | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | is pip_missing_reqs a different thing from pip_check_reqs? | 15:21 |
| bnemec | No, it links to https://github.com/r1chardj0n3s/pip-check-reqs from pypi. | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | there are 2 tools | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | https://pypi.org/project/pip_check_reqs/#history | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | https://pypi.org/project/pip_missing_reqs/#history | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | yay | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | uses of the other one: http://paste.openstack.org/show/720147/ | 15:23 |
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| bnemec | "2.0 renamed package to pip_check_reqs" | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | ah | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | so we just have some that are really old | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | combined uses: http://paste.openstack.org/show/720150/ | 15:24 |
| dhellmann | way more oslo libraries there | 15:24 |
| bnemec | Yeah | 15:24 |
| kgiusti | kk - I'll start with the oslo ones first. | 15:25 |
| bnemec | Maybe we can start an etherpad to track which have been done. | 15:25 |
| kgiusti | epad +1 | 15:25 |
| dhellmann | this would be a great use of storyboard, if we were migrated :-) | 15:25 |
| dhellmann | but yeah, an etherpad works for now | 15:25 |
| dhellmann | kgiusti : are you interested in us trying to recruit some help for authoring those? | 15:26 |
| kgiusti | dhellmann: sure | 15:26 |
| kgiusti | but to be honest it looks like a small job | 15:26 |
| kgiusti | let's see what I can get done today | 15:26 |
| dhellmann | ok. I'm interested in exploring ways to recruit some of the folks who regularly +1 lots of patches to help with tasks like this, so if you want we can brainstorm on that we can | 15:27 |
| kgiusti | if you've got folks in mind I'm good with that | 15:28 |
| bnemec | +1 | 15:28 |
| bnemec | Wait, did I just volunteer? | 15:28 |
| bnemec | :-) | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | names I've seen lately are melissaml and pippo but I don't know them other than by their gerrit user names | 15:28 |
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| kgiusti | I'll reach out to them. | 15:29 |
| dhellmann | and nguyen hai responded to a bunch of the lower-constraints job patches, even taking over a few of them iirc | 15:29 |
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| kgiusti | dhellmann: I'll set up the epad and we can track who's doing what from there | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | kgiusti : that would be great, thanks. and let me know how it goes | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:30 |
| kgiusti | will do | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | I'll be ready to help with +2s | 15:30 |
| bnemec | Likewise | 15:30 |
| kgiusti | great! | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | maybe if we have good turn-around on reviews from our end that will encourage folks to do more of these | 15:31 |
| kgiusti | one could only hope! | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | kgiusti : it would also be a good idea to follow up to that ML thread to let folks know the plan. that would also give us something to point to in commit messages for more details about why we're doing the cleanup | 15:31 |
| kgiusti | good idea | 15:31 |
| kgiusti | will do that today. | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | we still have lots of people not reading the ML, but if we at least get into a habit of posting messages about these sorts of things there maybe we can train them to skim it | 15:32 |
| dhellmann | the tc is also looking into other ways to highlight some of these sorts of threads, so if you have ideas about that let me know | 15:32 |
| bnemec | #action kgiusti to do a recruiting drive | 15:32 |
| * bnemec is getting the hang of this delegation thing ;-) | 15:33 | |
| dhellmann | it's especially important for these multi-repo cleanup initiatives | 15:33 |
| * dhellmann gives bnemec a thumbs-up | 15:33 | |
| bnemec | Somebody else did a bunch of those last week for the tox_install.sh stuff. | 15:33 |
| dhellmann | oh, nice | 15:33 |
| bnemec | There were a bunch of these from Elod: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/564840/ | 15:34 |
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| dhellmann | maybe include Elod in the recruiting for this one | 15:34 |
| dhellmann | although having them work on stable branches might be a better use of their time | 15:35 |
| bnemec | Oh, there are a few of those patches that haven't merged yet too. | 15:36 |
| dhellmann | I approved 2 more | 15:36 |
| bnemec | One is failing ci though. | 15:36 |
| bnemec | Okay, that's probably all of them then. | 15:36 |
| dhellmann | the taskflow one has an error | 15:37 |
| dhellmann | https://review.openstack.org/564133 | 15:37 |
| dhellmann | that looks like all of the oslo ones | 15:37 |
| bnemec | Okay, we can follow up on the taskflow one after the meeting. | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Erik Olof Gunnar Andersson proposed openstack/oslo.db master: Deprecate min_pool_size https://review.openstack.org/565090 | 15:39 |
| bnemec | The last two action items from last time were: | 15:39 |
| bnemec | bnemec to request room at Denver PTG | 15:39 |
| bnemec | bnemec to start attending oslo.config drivers meeting | 15:39 |
| bnemec | Both of those are done. | 15:39 |
| bnemec | We should have a room in Denver and the driver meeting is on my calendar. | 15:40 |
| bnemec | #topic oslo-config-migrator command (namnh) | 15:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "oslo-config-migrator command (namnh) (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:40 | |
| bnemec | I didn't get back to this one last week either. :-/ | 15:40 |
| dhellmann | it looks like raildo cancelled the oslo.config drivers meeting for tomorrow | 15:40 |
| bnemec | Ah, good to know. | 15:40 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I haven't had the time to review that work this cycle either :-( | 15:41 |
| raildo | dhellmann, just because tomorrow will be a holiday in a bunch of places | 15:41 |
| dhellmann | raildo : I figured that's what it was, but thanks for confirming | 15:41 |
| raildo | #link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Day | 15:41 |
| raildo | dhellmann, sure, np, we will be back on it next week :) | 15:42 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:42 |
| bnemec | Haven't seen namnh this meeting so I'm guessing this was just a review request. | 15:43 |
| * dhellmann wishes the US celebrated Labor Day on 1 May like most of the rest of the world | 15:43 | |
| namnh | hi ben and dhellman | 15:44 |
| namnh | i am here, sorry, today is public holiday in my country | 15:45 |
| namnh | :) | 15:45 |
| bnemec | namnh: No problem. | 15:45 |
| bnemec | I'm generally not available on public holidays so I don't expect anyone else to be. :-) | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | wait, yes, that's a problem -- no working on holidays on this team! | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | :-) | 15:46 |
| namnh | i updated a new patch last week, and waiting your review | 15:46 |
| bnemec | Good point | 15:46 |
| bnemec | Yeah, I spent a lot of last week distracted by TripleO problems so I didn't get to everything. | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | I apologize. Between TC tasks and preparing for the summit I'm not likely to have a lot of time over the next few weeks. :-/ | 15:47 |
| namnh | understood, when you are free, please help me to review the patch. | 15:47 |
| bnemec | Ooh, right. Summit is coming up. | 15:47 |
| bnemec | I need to get together with gcb and come up with slides for the project update. | 15:48 |
| dhellmann | 3 weeks, right? | 15:48 |
| bnemec | Yeah | 15:48 |
| namnh | dhellmann: no problem, i know all of you are so busy for now. | 15:48 |
| * jungleboyj Needs to start thinking about presentations. | 15:48 | |
| jungleboyj | First need to figure out which ones were accepted. :-) | 15:49 |
| bnemec | Okay, so we'll try to review as much as we can but this month is likely to be a bit slower due to Summit prep and Summit itself. | 15:50 |
| bnemec | #topic oslo.service python 3 work | 15:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "oslo.service python 3 work (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:50 | |
| kgiusti | fyi: pip-check-reqs epad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pip_(missing|check)_reqs | 15:51 |
| bnemec | oslo.service has some issues in python 3, which is problematic since we need to start fully supporting it. | 15:51 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: Thanks | 15:51 |
| bnemec | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pip_(missing|check)_reqs | 15:51 |
| bnemec | Should be interesting to see how that shows up in the meeting notes since my IRC client isn't linking it right. | 15:52 |
| dhellmann | urlencoding ftw | 15:53 |
| bnemec | Anyway, there are a bunch of tests being skipped on py3 in oslo.service because they don't work: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.service/blob/master/oslo_service/tests/test_wsgi.py#L282 | 15:53 |
| bnemec | It seems likely we need to resolve those soon. | 15:53 |
| bnemec | It's been on my todo list since I found out we were skipping tests, but I haven't had a chance to dig into this either. | 15:54 |
| bnemec | My fear is it will be a whole can of worms, but hopefully I'm wrong. | 15:54 |
| dhellmann | wait, that's for our home-grown wsgi server? | 15:55 |
| bnemec | Not sure | 15:55 |
| dhellmann | it sure looks like it | 15:55 |
| dhellmann | if that's the case, we should see if anyone is using it | 15:55 |
| dhellmann | because we should have everyone using real wsgi servers by now, we had that as a goal a while back | 15:56 |
| dhellmann | and so we could deprecate the whole thing and drop support | 15:56 |
| bnemec | That would be nice. | 15:56 |
| bnemec | The whole test file is full of conditional skips. | 15:56 |
| dhellmann | we should look into who is using the thing being tested | 15:56 |
| bnemec | Okay, that's probably our first step then. | 15:57 |
| bnemec | #action investigate if anyone is using oslo.service wsgi module | 15:57 |
| dhellmann | the bug was filed against manila & neutron originally | 15:58 |
| bnemec | I'm not sure if there was anything else blocking the py3 tests from voting in that repo. | 15:58 |
| dhellmann | in 2015, so wow | 15:58 |
| dhellmann | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1482633 | 15:59 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1482633 in oslo.service "requests to SSL wrapped sockets hang while reading using py3" [High,Triaged] | 15:59 |
| bnemec | Yeah, it would be good to finally put this one to bed. | 16:00 |
| * dhellmann has to drop offline to make a lunch appointment | 16:00 | |
| bnemec | Yeah, I guess that's it for our meeting time. | 16:00 |
| bnemec | Thanks for joining everyone! | 16:00 |
| bnemec | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Common Libraries | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 30 16:00:57 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-04-30-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-04-30-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-04-30-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken Giusti proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: Remove stale pip-missing-reqs tox test. https://review.openstack.org/565247 | 16:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack/taskflow master: Fix doc build https://review.openstack.org/565252 | 16:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Ben Nemec proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: Read description file as utf-8 https://review.openstack.org/564874 | 16:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken Giusti proposed openstack/oslo.cache master: Remove stale pip-missing-reqs tox test https://review.openstack.org/565257 | 16:59 |
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| bnemec | I think the pbr gate is blocked on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565089/ | 17:54 |
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| kgiusti | bnemec: +2A | 18:25 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: Thanks | 18:25 |
| kgiusti | np | 18:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.db master: Deprecate min_pool_size https://review.openstack.org/565090 | 19:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/pbr master: Don't poke in pip for requests https://review.openstack.org/565089 | 19:47 |
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