Monday, 2018-04-09

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openstackgerritYikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/oslo.db master: Improve exponential backoff for wrap_db_retry  https://review.openstack.org/52736204:13
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openstackgerritYikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/oslo.db master: Improve exponential backoff for wrap_db_retry  https://review.openstack.org/52736208:18
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.service master: Revert "Revert "Permit aborting loopingcall while sleeping""  https://review.openstack.org/55820613:05
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dhellmanno/13:17
dhellmanndikonoor: I think you have to set up the service to run the task. https://docs.openstack.org/oslo.service/latest/user/usage.html#launching-and-controlling-services13:19
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bnemec#startmeeting oslo15:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr  9 15:01:31 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)"15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'oslo'15:01
bnemeccourtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, ansmith, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims15:01
bnemeccourtesy ping for dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb, haypo15:01
bnemeccourtesy ping for jd__, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lhx_, raildo15:01
bnemeccourtesy ping for redrobot, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs15:01
bnemeccourtesy ping for toabctl, zhiyan, zxy, zzzeek15:01
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bnemec#topic Red flags for/from liaisons15:04
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bnemecNothing is coming to mind immediately for me.15:04
jungleboyjNothing that I am aware of from Cinder but I have been a little out of touch the last week.15:04
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bnemecWe did some major releases last week, but I haven't heard of any trouble with them.15:04
jungleboyj\o/15:05
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bnemec#topic Releases for Rocky15:06
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bnemecLast week was a little quieter.  Mostly just bugfix releases.15:06
bnemecSo when I say we did major releases I actually mean we got major releases into u-c.15:07
bnemecPlanning to do the regular set of releases again this week.15:07
kgiustibnemec: hey just fyi - this landed in o.m since last week  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557591/15:08
kgiustibnemec: assuming this will be released this week, right?15:08
bnemeckgiusti: That's the plan.15:08
kgiustibnemec: thanks15:09
bnemec#topic Action items from last meeting15:10
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bnemecThe only one we had was reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52004315:10
bnemecWhich I did, so I'm calling that one completed. :-)15:11
bnemecWe will eventually need other reviews on that spec, but I think we're getting close.15:11
dhellmannbnemec : do you have the agenda link handy?15:12
bnemecdhellmann: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo15:12
dhellmannthank you15:12
bnemecnp15:12
bnemec#topic Configuration change handling over releases (namnh) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520043 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52631415:12
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namnhbnemec, dhellmann: here is the patch set for testing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549672/15:13
namnhbnemec: i appended this item several weeks ago, so do i need to remove this one for next weekly meeting15:14
bnemecnamnh: Yeah, I can do that too.  I've mostly been leaving it as a reminder to myself to review it. :-)15:14
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namnhbnemec: :))15:14
bnemecI suppose I shouldn't use the meeting agenda as my personal review list though. ;-)15:14
dhellmannI had some personal stuff come up last week so I wasn't able to review it either. It's still on my list.15:14
bnemecdhellmann: Sounds good, thanks15:15
bnemec#topic Move pep8 to python3 - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129025.html15:15
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bnemecThere was some discussion on the list last week about running pep8 in python 3.15:15
bnemecSeems like the consensus was that we should switch to doing that since it's more strict.15:16
bnemecIt'll probably be a fair bit of work in Oslo since we have so many projects to switch, and there may be fixes needed.15:16
bnemecAny objections to doing that?15:17
dhellmannwe should go ahead and do it15:18
kgiustiagreed15:18
dhellmannwhen I finish the lower-constraints work I'm going to start pushing for all projects to update the docs and pep8 builds to py315:18
bnemec#action Switch Oslo pep8 test jobs to python 315:18
bnemecSounds good15:19
bnemec#topic Split oslo.messaging requirements into extra15:19
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* bnemec looks for the link15:20
kgiustihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/525319/615:20
bnemecThanks15:20
kgiustinp - this latest patch will always install the rabbit deps,15:20
bnemecWe're looking to make use of the extra requirements functionality for oslo.messaging so everyone doesn't have to install all the deps for everything.15:20
bnemecApparently this is particularly useful for kafka, which pulls in a lot of other stuff.15:21
bnemecThe one issue we've run into is that removing anything from the default deps list could break existing users unless they update their requirements to list the correct extra.15:21
bnemecAs kgiusti notes, the current approach is just to leave the rabbit deps in the main list.15:22
bnemeczmq is also removed, but since we think that's broken anyway it's not as much of a concern.15:22
bnemecI _think_ that should work, but I was wondering if anyone had any alternate strategies for this.15:22
bnemecIt would be nice to get to a place where non-rabbit users could avoid installing kombu and friends.15:23
bnemecWe don't really have a deprecation method for requirements changes though. :-/15:23
kgiustiluckily rabbitmq's deps are pretty lightweight (when compared to the other drivers)15:24
kgiustiansmith: I'd esp. like you're input - you've done lots with triple-o and other deployment tooling15:26
bnemecTripleO is largely unimpacted by this since they install from RPM.15:27
bnemecTheir requirements are mostly tracked in spec files, which are based on requirements.txt but don't track it exactly.15:28
bnemecI think the current approach is low-risk and gets us most of the benefits of optional deps, so maybe we just leave this as an open question and deal with it if/when it becomes a problem.15:29
kgiustiI'm good with that.15:30
bnemec#action Split all optional oslo.messaging requirements except rabbit into extras15:30
bnemecIt's an action item now so we have to do it. ;-)15:30
bnemecI'll take another look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525319/ but I think it's probably good to go now.15:31
kgiustithanks15:31
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bnemec#topic oslo.service uncapping eventlet15:32
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bnemecThe requirements team is looking to uncap eventlet, but apparently there are some issues in oslo.service preventing that.15:32
bnemecI haven't had a chance to dig into this yet so I don't have a lot more detail.15:33
bnemecThere's an openstack-dev thread on it.15:33
bnemec#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129096.html15:33
bnemecIt sounds like we need some changes in oslo.service to allow it.15:34
bnemecAnyway, help is welcome on that front too.15:36
bnemecWill probably have to revisit this next week when hopefully more progress has been made.15:37
bnemec#topic Open discussion15:37
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bnemecThat was it for the agenda.  Anything else?15:37
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bnemecOkay, that's it for this week then.15:40
bnemecThanks for joining everyone.15:40
bnemec#endmeeting15:40
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* bnemec notes that stephenfin is not on the ping list15:41
* bnemec corrects that oversight15:41
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/oslo.tools master: Add stephenfin to the ping list  https://review.openstack.org/55977215:43
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kgiustibnemec: hey - got a couple of minutes?  I've got a question related to gerrit and CI....15:45
bnemeckgiusti: Sure15:47
kgiustibnemec: thanks - backstory: around early feb the telemetry integration test started to fail for non-rabbitmq backends15:47
kgiustibnemec: I'm having problems identifying the issue - been hacking in log statements and such: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554658/15:48
kgiustibnemec: same test - autoscaling alarms.15:48
kgiustibnemec: my Q: is there any way to do something like git bisect, but across multiple projects?15:48
kgiustibnemec: the test pulls in things like heat, aodh, ceilometer, gnocchi etc.15:49
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kgiustiI'd like to roll them all back to the point where it used to pass15:49
bnemeckgiusti: I think what I would do is pip install -e the projects you want to bisect into the tox venv.15:50
kgiustibnemec: then roll forward until I identify what broke (pretty sure it isn't oslo.messaging at this point)15:50
bnemecThen you can git bisect on the git repos and re-run the tests with whatever the bisect commit is.15:50
bnemecThe easiest way is probably to do ". .tox/py27-func-amqp1/bin/activate"15:51
bnemecThen go into each related git repo and do "pip install -e ."15:51
bnemecFrom then on the tox tests should use whatever is in the git repos instead of released versions.15:52
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kgiustibnemec: ah - but the test is a dsvm test, not tox (forgive me if that's a stupid statement, I'm a bit out of my range here)15:53
kgiustibnemec: to reproduce locally I use the reproduce.sh script and modify it to point it to my github versions of the repos15:54
kgiustibnemec: doing all that by hand at this point.15:54
kgiustibnemec: I thought there might be some deep hidden tribal knowledge on a simple way of doing this, but my assumption is probably wrong :)15:55
bnemeckgiusti: The func tests are also failing.  It might be easier to debug those since they do use a venv.15:55
bnemecI have to admit I'm a little rusty on devstack tests.  I've been working with tripleo tests too long.15:55
bnemecGenerally speaking with devstack it should be possible to git bisect on the repos in /opt/stack and just make sure RECLONE=0 so it doesn't mess with what you've got locally.15:56
bnemecI'm not sure how that plays with the reproduce.sh script though.15:56
kgiustibnemec: now that's what I'm talking about!  RECLONE=015:56
kgiustibnemec: I'll give that a go, thanks15:58
bnemecCool :-)15:58
kgiustibnemec: stay tuned.... ;)15:58
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: zuul was restarted to update to the latest code; please recheck any changes uploaded within the past 10 minutes16:52
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/oslo.service master: Remove eventlet cap  https://review.openstack.org/55980017:32
bnemecmugsie: Hopefully ^ will let us make progress on eventlet.  We'll see how ci does with that.17:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/devstack-plugin-kafka master: Update qdrouterd config and kafka server  https://review.openstack.org/55792518:22
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.service master: [WIP] Fixup certificates  https://review.openstack.org/55983120:30
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.service master: Revert "Revert "Permit aborting loopingcall while sleeping""  https://review.openstack.org/55820620:30
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.service master: Revert "Revert "Permit aborting loopingcall while sleeping""  https://review.openstack.org/55820620:47
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SamYaplehello. have an olso.log+fluentd question related to this code https://github.com/openstack/oslo.log/blob/master/oslo_log/formatters.py#L233-L25322:00
SamYaplei get this log as a return ` {"hostname":"epc061.xlb","extra":{"project":"unknown","version":"unknown"},"process_name":"MainProcess","module":"wsgi","message":"OPTIONS https://epc061.xlb:5000/","filename":"wsgi.py","name":"keystone.common.wsgi","level":"INFO","traceback":null,"funcname":"__call__","time":"2018-04-09 22:00:48,927"} `22:01
SamYapleim curious about the extra key there, its always set to those values22:01
SamYaplei dont really know where that is coming from22:01
SamYaplei should say, the "extra" key22:02
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dhellmannSamYaple : it looks like the service isn't using oslo.context to set up the identity information (or perhaps the API call doesn't require auth, so has an empty context)22:06
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SamYapleapi call there defienetely doesnt have auth. i believe that is haproxy healthcheck (which isnt currently checking healthcheck filter)22:10
SamYaplesince info like 'unknown' is not useful, would additional filtering/checking in that code useful?22:11
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