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| kgiusti | bnemec: ping - got a moment? I have a Q regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525319/5 | 18:21 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: Sure | 18:21 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: thanks - I'm being dense, what exactly is different between the proposed patch and what was done in oslo.db? I used oslo.db as the basis for that patch. | 18:22 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: in other words - what changes does that patch need? I'm a bit lost :) | 18:26 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: What I would like to see for oslo.messaging requirements is to have all of the driver-specific packages moved to an extras entry. | 18:27 |
| bnemec | So instead of everyone getting kombu no matter what, you could do "pip install oslo.messaging[rabbit]" or "pip install oslo.messaging[zmq]" | 18:28 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: aaah! The light dawns on Marblehead! Yes I understand now. | 18:28 |
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| bnemec | I'm particularly concerned about the idea of tracking dependencies in documentation only. That makes it hard to automate. | 18:30 |
| bnemec | I guess you could just install test-requirements too, but that will pull in a bunch of other stuff you don't want. | 18:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed openstack/oslo.service master: DNM: Testing eventlet-0.22.1 https://review.openstack.org/559144 | 18:30 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: I'm curious how this worked in oslo.db though. Removing deps like this seems like a backwards-incompatible change. | 18:31 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: yes we need to avoid installing everything - some of the drivers pull in lots of dependencies (hrm... I'm looking at you kafka) | 18:31 |
| bnemec | Insofar as hypthothetical users of zmq used to be able to do "pip install oslo.messaging" and get what they needed, and now will need to do "pip install oslo.messaging[zmq]". | 18:32 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: Yeah, that was the main motivation for the extras functionality. There are even some people running OpenStack on platforms where certain deps just aren't available, so they can't be installed even if they wanted. | 18:33 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: I originally tried what dhellmann suggested - moving all the deps into setup.cfg, but that patch re-introduced tools/tox_install.sh, which infra no longer supports | 18:33 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: Yeah, it looks like the trick is to add the extras into test-requirements.txt too, at least if I understand Monty's oslo.db patch. | 18:34 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: gotcha. | 18:34 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: one concern: 99.999999998% of existing projects expect oslo.messaging to pull in the rabbit related packages (kombu) - won't this change break them? | 18:35 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: people will want my head on a platter (or given freely), no? | 18:35 |
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| bnemec | kgiusti: Yeah, that's what I mentioned regarding backwards compatibility. | 18:36 |
| bnemec | I don't know if there's a way to include an extra by default, but allow people to specify others if they want. | 18:36 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: that would be ideal. | 18:37 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: stephenfin: ^Maybe you know more about splitting out extras in a package? | 18:37 |
| bnemec | Hmm, nova just depends on oslo.db: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/requirements.txt#L44 | 18:39 |
| bnemec | So the actual driver installation must be handled elsewhere? | 18:39 |
| kgiusti | or magic, perhaps. | 18:40 |
| bnemec | Hmm, only one external reference: http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=oslo.db%5C%5Bmysql%5C%5D&i=nope&files=&repos= | 18:41 |
| bnemec | A few more hits for http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=oslo.db%5C%5B.*mysql&i=nope&files=&repos= | 18:42 |
| bnemec | Hmm, maybe oslo.db never included drivers: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.db/commit/01359ef1671bf2b7ecd22c210b35c9987c3a0550 | 18:45 |
| bnemec | That only added the ability to install drivers. | 18:45 |
| bnemec | kgiusti: This might require some more discussion. I've added it to the meeting agenda for next week. | 18:47 |
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| bnemec | I think we definitely want to do this, but I'm not sure how without inciting torches and pitchforks. | 18:48 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: +1 thanks. I know ansmith has done lots of O^3 work for non-rabbit drivers. And he owns a particularly pointy pitchfork. | 18:48 |
| bnemec | Maybe we just leave rabbit in there and add extras for the other drivers that weren't there to begin with. | 18:49 |
| bnemec | zmq is kind of a non-issue since we plan to remove it anyway. | 18:49 |
| kgiusti | bnemec: seems reasonable to me. | 18:49 |
| kgiusti | ansmith: ^^^ I imagine that for non-rabbitmq deployments triple-o must be smart enough to explicitly install the proper dependencies for the driver (e.g. pyngus for amqp1) | 18:52 |
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| kgiusti | ansmith: rather than let pip handle it (since pyngus is not in requirements.txt, only test-requirements.txt) | 18:53 |
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| bnemec | kgiusti: ansmith: TripleO doesn't use pip to install deps though. Historically the strategy has just been to install all the drivers we support up front. | 19:07 |
| bnemec | Since containers and images are built once and deployed many times it's more efficient than installing drivers on-demand at deploy time. | 19:08 |
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| kgiusti | bnemec: that make sense. | 19:23 |
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