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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.service master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/55160808:22
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/55642408:22
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.vmware master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/55642508:22
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openstackgerritQuan Tian proposed openstack/oslo.config master: Support trailing commas in values of list type  https://review.openstack.org/55647310:05
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: builddoc: Treat '[pbr] autodoc_tree_excludes' as a multi-line opt  https://review.openstack.org/55210010:47
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: tests: Change order of parsing  https://review.openstack.org/55648110:47
stephenfinfungi, dhellmann: Hopefully this is the last of it https://review.openstack.org/55648110:47
stephenfinMINOR release my hat :grumble grumble:10:48
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stephenfindhellmann: Should I tag this with the bug I created? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555808/12:38
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: update parse test to use reliable comparison  https://review.openstack.org/55580812:39
openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack-dev/pbr master: builddoc: Treat '[pbr] autodoc_tree_excludes' as a multi-line opt  https://review.openstack.org/55210012:40
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dhellmannstephenfin : it looks like you did, so yes :-)12:51
* stephenfin took the initiative12:51
stephenfin:)12:51
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dhellmannkgiusti , beekneemech, gcb : I'm seeing a surprising number of failures in jobs unrelated to the change in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556066/ for oslo.messaging. Are those things you've seen before?14:01
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kgiustidhellmann: hey - the kafka failures are expected (correct ansmith?)14:03
ansmithkgiusti, dhellmann: yes, those are expected14:04
dhellmannhow about those timeouts in the py27 job?14:04
kgiustidhellmann: the telemetry failures are under investigation.  but the zmq failures in tox-py27 seem new14:04
kgiustino doug14:04
dhellmannok14:05
dhellmannwe're dropping zmq, right?14:06
kgiustithose are new - I'll need to dig in a bit (tho personally zmq should be removed IMHO)14:06
kgiustidhellmann: I would like to yest14:06
dhellmannI forget what we said about the schedule for that. Early or late?14:06
kgiustiyes14:06
dhellmannearly is probably better?14:06
dhellmannI'd be happy to just remove the zmq stuff and not worry about debugging them14:06
bnemecDid we deprecate it previously?14:06
kgiustiI'll reach out on the operator's list today14:06
kgiustibnemec: we haven't taken a public stand.14:06
kgiustiI was hoping someone would claim support (and we could remove it from in tree)14:07
bnemecFWIW, I haven't heard anyone come out of the shadows asking us to keep it this time.14:07
kgiustiYeah, but I haven't been explicit about ditching it - let me email operators and see if anyone grumbles14:07
kgiustidhellmann: in the meantime just disable the tests +114:08
bnemecI guess if it's broken we can justify removing it right away.14:08
kgiustibnemec: agreed14:08
dhellmannok, I'll look into that after this errand14:08
dhellmanndid we announce that change on the ML already? I feel like it showed up in a summary14:09
bnemecYeah, I believe I touched on it in my PTG wrapup.14:09
kgiustidhellmann: bnemec: I fire off a stand alone email in any case, cc'd the dev list14:10
dhellmannkgiusti, thanks14:10
bnemec+114:10
bnemecA brief mention in the middle of a wall of text email is definitely not enough notification. :-)14:10
bnemecI'll mention it in the meeting today too.14:11
kgiustibnemec: the louder the better IMHO.14:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.config master: Support trailing commas in values of list type  https://review.openstack.org/55647314:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr master: Make docs on env vars a little clearer  https://review.openstack.org/55471214:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.utils master: Clean old output before new doc builds  https://review.openstack.org/55505714:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.utils master: Remove sphinx settings from setup.cfg  https://review.openstack.org/55505514:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.vmware master: pypy is not checked at gate  https://review.openstack.org/55497614:37
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bnemec#startmeeting oslo15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar 26 15:00:10 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bnemec. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'oslo'15:00
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bnemec#topic Red flags for/from liaisons15:02
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jungleboyjDon't think Cinder has anything.15:03
bnemecI'm not aware of anything from the Oslo side either.15:03
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bnemecWe can probably move on then.15:04
bnemec#topic Releases for Rocky15:04
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bnemecI didn't do the full weekly release last week.  Will start that again this week.15:04
bnemecI guess oslo.db was released last week to fix the requirements issue.15:05
bnemecI'm planning to include oslo.config in the next release set too as the remained of dhellmann's config location changes have merged.15:06
bnemecAnd while we're talking releases, fungi had mentioned last week that pbr hasn't been released in a long time.15:06
bnemecI think since last summer.15:06
bnemecThere was some discussion with stephenfin about how the sphinx changes factor into that.15:07
stephenfinbnemec: pbr is good to go as soon as those two fixes land15:08
gcbyeah, we didn't release pbr  recently ,then we can pick up more features15:08
fungiyeah, tat would be awesome15:08
fungiand thanks stephenfin for jumping on the fire drill there with sphinx integration15:08
bnemecstephenfin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552100 is the last thing then?15:08
stephenfinfungi: np :)15:09
stephenfinbnemec: Correct15:09
stephenfinAt least, until Sphinx 1.8 is released, heh15:09
bnemecCool, those will hopefully merge shortly.15:09
bnemecOnce those are in I will release pbr.15:09
bnemec#action bnemec to release pbr after https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552100 merges15:10
stephenfinSpot on. I've removed stuff so it should be a MAJOR version (4.0?)15:10
bnemecI'll have to look at the git history, but that seems likely.15:10
bnemecThat's all I had for releases.  Anything else?15:11
bnemec#topic Action items from last meeting15:12
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bnemecI approved the oslo.limit spec and that's been working its way through governance.15:13
bnemecI think it merged last week?15:13
bnemecIf not it should be soon.15:13
bnemecI did not update the new library process docs though. :-/15:14
bnemecWill keep that on my todo list.15:14
gcbhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/552907/15:14
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bnemecYeah, I was thinking of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550496/ which has merged.15:15
bnemecSo we should be good proceed with oslo.limit.15:15
gcbyeah, I saw the update in TC report :-)15:16
bnemecI still haven't gotten to the config migration spec either.15:16
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bnemec#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520043/15:17
bnemecDon't see namnh so not sure if the testing doc for that got updated.15:18
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bnemecAnd finally, the MultiConfigParser is no more, at least as far as Oslo is concerned.15:18
bnemecI have a patch open with networking-cisco to move it there, but they plan to remove their use of it in Rocky anyway so they haven't accepted it yet.15:19
bnemec#link https://review.openstack.org/55461715:19
bnemecThat's it for the action items from last week.15:20
bnemec#topic Remove zmq driver from oslo.messaging15:20
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kgiustiyep.15:21
bnemecWe discussed this at the PTG, but because the zmq unit tests are now starting to fail in oslo.messaging we're bumping the priority on this.15:21
kgiustiThe driver hasn't had a contribution for over a year now.15:21
bnemecAnd is broken as far as we can tell. :-)15:22
kgiustiI'm writing an email to the operator's and dev's mailing list about this.15:22
kgiustiIf anyone is willing to take ownership, please step forward. :)15:22
kgiustibut be aware: it clocks in at over 5,000 lines of code15:22
kgiustiwhich is more than double the rabbit driver size15:22
bnemecYeah, I don't anticipate that anyone is in this meeting who cares about it, but this way it will be in the meeting notes in case anyone happens to look through them.15:23
kgiustiIf anyone comes forward we should still move it out-of-tree15:23
dhellmanno/15:23
bnemecI think the TLDR is that we're going to remove the zeromq driver from oslo.messaging and if anyone still needs it they should let us know ASAP.15:24
kgiustibnemec: don't we have to announce it as being deprecated first?15:24
bnemec#action Anyone still using the zeromq oslo.messaging driver contact kgiusti or bnemec15:24
kgiustibnemec: this hasn't been done yet to my knowledge15:25
bnemeckgiusti: It's broken and we're shutting off the tests.15:25
bnemecAt least that was my understanding of the discussion this morning.15:25
kgiustibnemec: agreed - we def need to shut off the tests now15:25
dhellmannI can do either today (delete or just disable the tests) so let me know which you prefer.15:25
kgiustibnemec: but I thought libraries had a formal feature deprecation process?15:26
kgiustibnemec: not saying that it's a good idea to keep the driver around if it can't pass tests BTW15:26
bnemecI'm a little uncomfortable removing something without deprecation, but in this case I'm not sure anyone benefits from having it there.15:26
dhellmannif we know it doesn't work, we can't really be breaking anyone's production deployment, right?15:26
bnemecI would think not.15:27
kgiustidhellmann: we know it doesn't pass tests, whether there's some restricted use case in the wild is unknown15:27
dhellmannI suppose that's true15:27
dhellmannok, so just marking the tests with skips for today then?15:27
dhellmannand announcing the impending deletion?15:27
kgiustidhellmann: +1 let's start there.15:27
bnemecI'm good with that plan.15:27
dhellmannok15:27
dhellmannshould I mark them as skips or just delete them?15:28
dhellmannthe tests that is15:28
kgiustidhellmann: nuke em from orbit15:28
dhellmannwfm15:28
kgiustiansmith: ?15:28
ansmith+115:28
* bnemec prefers to take off first15:28
bnemecNo sense nuking yourself in the process. ;-)15:29
bnemec#action dhellmann to delete zeromq tests from oslo.messaging15:29
kgiusti#action kgiusti announce on operator's and dev ml15:30
dhellmannare there separate zmq test jobs?15:30
kgiustidhellmann: yeah15:31
dhellmannok, I can remove those, too15:31
kgiustidhellmann: well - sorry there are none outside of oslo's if that's what you mean15:31
kgiustiansmith: we'll want to remove devstack support too, I can take that15:32
dhellmannkgiusti : I meant any at all, and found the ones in repo, so it's to know I don't need to look elsewhere15:32
kgiustidhellmann: I don't know of any other projects using zmq in their gates15:33
kgiustidhellmann: there's just the devstack plugin, which we'll remove once the driver itself goes15:33
dhellmannthere are some legacy jobs defiined in the openstack-zuul-jobs repo15:34
bnemecSo our standard deprecation policy would say that this needs to stick around until T.15:34
dhellmannlegacy-tempest-dsvm-full-zmq15:34
dhellmannthat's used by devstack-plugin-zmq15:35
dhellmannin project-config15:35
dhellmannif you're going to handle the devstack parts, I can leave that to you15:35
kgiustidhellmann: +115:35
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: add lower-constraints job  https://review.openstack.org/55606615:36
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: remove zmq tests  https://review.openstack.org/55656115:36
kgiustibnemec: bleh15:36
dhellmann#link patch to remove zmq tests https://review.openstack.org/55656115:36
bnemecI'm feeling like we should make an exception since we believe this is broken anyway.15:36
kgiustibnemec: yeah, it's not like we're going to fix anything between now and then.15:37
dhellmannI agree. That means we need to make more noise about it, but I think we can move ahead.15:37
dhellmannthat does make me feel better about starting by just removing the tests15:37
bnemecWhat about a one cycle deprecation and remove in S?15:38
kgiustibnemec: deprecated and unsupported, remove in S - I can live with that.15:38
dhellmannhmm15:38
dhellmannyeah, I can support that15:38
dhellmannplan, that is, not driver :-)15:39
kgiustidhellmann: you got my hopes up ;)15:39
bnemecHeh15:39
bnemeckgiusti: Can you communicate that in your email then?15:39
kgiustibnemec: most certainly15:39
bnemecBasically I think it looks just as bad for us to carry known-broken code that we don't plan to fix as to short-circuit the deprecation period.15:40
bnemecSo let's tear off the band-aid and get it over with.15:40
kgiustibnemec: +115:40
ansmithbnemec: agree15:41
bnemec#action deprecate the zeromq driver in Rocky, remove it in S15:42
bnemecOkay, sounds like we've got a plan and I think people have ample warning that this broken thing is going away.15:43
bnemecThat's it for topics.15:43
bnemec#topic Open discussion15:43
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dhellmannI have a bunch of patches up to add jobs to run py3 unit test jobs against all of the libraries using the lower bounds of their requirements15:44
dhellmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:requirements-stop-syncing+status:open15:44
dhellmannI'm hoping those are not controversial and that we can get them approved relatively quickly15:45
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bnemecYeah, I saw those patch bombs from over the weekend. :-)15:45
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bnemecDo we want to apply a single approver policy to those?15:45
dhellmannwfm15:45
dhellmannI think all of them are passing except oslo.messaging15:46
dhellmannoh, and oslo.service15:46
dhellmannthere's something odd there15:46
bnemecYeah, and the regular unit tests are failing there too, IIRC.15:46
bnemec#action Oslo cores to single approve lower-bounds tests where they are passing15:49
bnemecI guess I should note that there are quite a few untriaged bugs in Oslo too.15:50
bnemec#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New15:50
bnemecI started working through that on Friday and will continue this week.15:50
bnemecAny help is welcome. :-)15:51
bnemecA number of them can probably be closed or marked incomplete if they're very old, to request that the reporter confirm the bug is still present.15:52
bnemecWe discussed that at the PTG for oslo.messaging too.15:52
dhellmann#info proposing kgiusti for oslo-core15:53
dhellmann#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128736.html15:53
bnemec+1!15:53
dhellmannwe should discuss that on the ML15:53
kgiustithanks15:53
gcb+115:53
* bnemec will respond on the list too15:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr master: update parse test to use reliable comparison  https://review.openstack.org/55580815:54
openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/pbr master: builddoc: Treat '[pbr] autodoc_tree_excludes' as a multi-line opt  https://review.openstack.org/55210015:54
bnemec\o/ Ship it!15:54
bnemecActually, on that note I noticed pbr wasn't in the oslo deliverables list in the releases repo.15:54
bnemecI'm planning to add it since that is something that falls under our purview.15:55
bnemec#action bnemec add pbr to oslo release deliverables15:55
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dhellmannis it not on the separate list you keep? or is the team value in the deliverable file not set correctly?15:55
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bnemecdhellmann: It's actually not present in https://github.com/openstack/releases/tree/master/deliverables/rocky at all.15:56
dhellmannbnemec : it's under _independent15:56
dhellmannhttps://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/master/deliverables/_independent/pbr.yaml15:57
bnemecdhellmann: Huh.  It didn't show up when I listed all the oslo changes.15:57
dhellmannoh, the series defaults to the current value so it is probably being filtered out15:57
dhellmannyou might want to run "list-deliverables --series independent" and see what you get15:57
dhellmannthere may be multiple15:57
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bnemecYeah, will try that.15:58
bnemec#undo15:58
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #link https://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/master/deliverables/_independent/pbr.yaml15:58
bnemecOops, that's not what I wanted to do.15:58
bnemecOh well, I'll add it to my offline todo list. :-)15:58
bnemecOkay, time's just about up.  Anything else?15:59
dhellmannnothing here16:00
bnemecOkay, thanks for joining everyone!16:00
bnemec#endmeeting16:00
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bnemecdhellmann: --series independent did the trick.  Thanks.16:03
* bnemec crosses that off the todo list16:03
dhellmannbnemec : I *think* you can use multiple --series args in one call but I don't remember16:03
dhellmannif not we can make that work16:03
dhellmannor add a special wildcard or something16:03
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bnemecdhellmann: It looks like last --series wins right now.16:05
dhellmannbnemec : if you file a story in storyboard against the openstack/releases repo that will help me remember to fix that for you (unless you want to take a stab at it yourself, of course)16:06
bnemecdhellmann: I'll open a story either way.  I should get familiar with storyboard.16:07
dhellmann++16:07
* bnemec logged in and is stuck on rotating arrows :-/16:08
dhellmannhmm16:09
dhellmannyou may find some folks in #storyboard who can help with that16:09
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dhellmannthe login stuff seems especially fragile. sometimes just force reloading the page fixes it.16:09
bnemecA refresh fixed it.16:09
bnemecYeah16:09
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bnemechttps://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200173816:11
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dhellmannthese oslo.service tests are weird16:14
dhellmannthey fork and manage processes and the child prcesses run the service launcher with workers set16:14
dhellmannit's not clear why that step isn't just in a separate script that the tests run16:14
dhellmannthe tests are timing out trying to clean up those extra processes16:17
openstackgerritMerged openstack/futurist master: add lower-constraints job  https://review.openstack.org/55544716:18
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kgiustibnemec: ping - there are a couple of openstack project associated with zmq and pika that we should probably clean up17:00
kgiustibnemec: see https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/devstack-plugin-pika/ and https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/devstack-plugin-zmq/17:00
bnemeckgiusti: +117:01
kgiustibnemec: they're used by the oslo.messaging devstack-based gate jobs17:01
bnemecYep, makes sense17:01
kgiustibnemec: problem:  it appears as if they've never been branched!17:01
kgiustibnemec: which means - as best as I know - there are no stable branches for them17:02
kgiustibnemec: so the stable branches must be using master for those plugins17:02
bnemecIndeed17:03
bnemecThat probably wasn't intentional.17:03
kgiustibnemec: looks like the amqp1.0 plugin suffers the same non-branch issue: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/devstack-plugin-amqp117:04
kgiustibnemec: I'm assuming I missed something when these projects were created.17:04
bnemeckgiusti: They may be missing from the releases repo.17:05
* bnemec looks17:05
bnemecYeah, I find no references to them in releases.17:06
kgiustibnemec: bummah.  The amqp1 one is still supported it really needs to be in releases.17:06
bnemecFor the amqp1 repo, we definitely want to get it in there so it is branched in the future.17:06
bnemecFor the others, maybe we just leave them alone until the stable releases go away?17:07
bnemecI guess we could ask about retroactively branching them.17:07
bnemecBut that seems like more work for something we plan to delete anyway.17:07
kgiustibnemec: I agree - I'll create a couple of launchpad bugs to remind me to remove them when the time comes17:08
bnemecCool17:08
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bnemeckgiusti: I'm guessing the kafka plugin is in the same boat?17:11
kgiustibnemec: that's supported so we'll need to branch it as well - ansmith ^^^17:12
ansmithkgiusti, bnemec: yes, will need to branch kafka plugin as well17:13
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bnemeckgiusti: ansmith: https://review.openstack.org/55659617:18
bnemecI asked in openstack-release if that's the correct way to handle this.17:19
bnemecI based it on the existing devstack-plugin in the releases repo.17:19
kgiustibnemec: ha!  Thanks - I was trying to figure out how it's done17:19
bnemeckgiusti: We'll see what the release folks say. :-)17:20
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* bnemec notes with concern the number of bugs open against pylockfile17:33
* bnemec hopes all those people moved on to other libraries.17:33
dhellmannbnemec, kgiusti : I think the oslo.service failures under python 2 are tied to a change in behavior in openssl (or pyopenssl) and that we need to generate some new certificates for the wsgi tests17:34
dhellmannI don't know how to do that off the top of my head, do either of you?17:34
dhellmannoslo_service/tests/ssl_cert/*17:35
bnemecdhellmann: At one point I knew how to generate ssl certs.17:35
kgiustidhellmann: yeah - I'll take a look.17:35
bnemecAre they self-signed?17:35
dhellmannyeah, and I think the issue is they use an IP address not a host name17:35
dhellmannI saw something about that on another ML thread somewhere else in the last week17:35
dhellmannI'm still not sure what's going on for the py3 failures. It's like the signals aren't being received by the child process so they aren't dying17:36
bnemecOh, I wonder if they finally got serious about removing the deprecated Common Name functionality.17:36
dhellmannthat sounds familiar, yeah17:36
dhellmannI'll keep working on the py3 failures17:37
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dhellmannman, I wish we could get rid of this library, though17:39
kgiustidhellmann: fwiw: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.messaging/tree/oslo_messaging/tests/drivers/test_amqp_driver.py#n146717:39
kgiustidhellmann: that test generates self signed CA and server/client certs for use with the amqp1 functional tests17:40
dhellmanndoes it work?17:40
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kgiustidhellmann: heh that's a good point - it did.17:40
dhellmannif so, I'll see if I can port it to oslo.service17:40
kgiustidhellmann: let me run in locally (there are some openssl tools that need to be installed - that may be a problem for CI now that I think of it17:41
dhellmannwe can add those to bindep.txt to ensure they are present for ci17:41
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kgiustidhellmann: bingo17:41
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kgiustidhellmann: well I'll be damned - it works!17:45
dhellmannnice17:45
dhellmanneventually it would be nice to get that into a fixture in oslotest17:45
dhellmannfor now I'll start by making a fixture in oslo.service and then we can move it17:45
kgiustidhellmann: I turned it off for upstream gate a while back for some reason that I've long forgotten about.  Getting old sucks.17:46
dhellmanntell me about it17:47
bnemeckgiusti: Do we need to branch the devstack plugins for queens?  Or will it be okay if we just start branching going forward?17:50
kgiustibnemec: I don't trust my luck - if they can be branched easily for queens then do so.17:51
kgiustibnemec: the alternative is to "be careful", and I don't know how many times I've screwed that up before17:51
bnemeckgiusti: Okay, sounds like we can.  Do we want to branch off the latest commit or something earlier?17:52
* kgiusti looks17:52
bnemeckafka hasn't changed since last year, so that should be fine.17:53
bnemecamqp1 has a more recent commit.17:53
bnemechttps://github.com/openstack/devstack-plugin-amqp1/commit/70e18b5738d7c1a77adc41217d96ea3e2830ab6717:53
kgiustibnemec: ah, yes - that fix is appropriate for queens so you can branch from master17:54
kgiustiansmith: re: kafka ^^^17:55
ansmithkgiusti, bnemec: branch from master works for kafka plugin as well17:55
ansmithbnemec: thanks!17:55
bnemeckgiusti: ansmith: Okay, and just queens is okay?17:56
ansmiththat works for kafka17:56
kgiustibnemec: yep17:58
ansmithkgiusti: do you recall which release supported separate om transports? was it mitaka?17:58
bnemecOkay, will get that proposed too.  The rocky placeholder patch has already merged so hopefully we won't forget going forward.17:58
kgiustiansmith: seriously?  I can hardly remember what I had for breakfast this morning.  ;)  I seem to recall newton, actually.17:59
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ansmithclose enough, thanks18:00
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bnemecdevstack-plugin branch review: https://review.openstack.org/55660218:05
* bnemec breaks for lunch to give his fingers a break18:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/debtcollector master: add lower-constraints job  https://review.openstack.org/55540918:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.config master: add a job to run unit tests against the lower bounds of our dependencies  https://review.openstack.org/55060318:11
kgiustidhellmann: hrm... I think those oslo_server certs may be ok.  At least I can use them with openssl s_server and s_client and the negotiation succeeds18:18
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kgiustidhellmann: i.e.: openssl s_server -cert certificate.crt -key privatekey.key & sleep 1; openssl s_client -CAfile ca.crt18:21
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dhellmannkgiusti : ok, maybe the error I'm seeing is different. idna.core.IDNAError: The label ::1 is not a valid A-label19:55
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dhellmannbnemec : would you make sure stevedore is on your list of things to release, please?20:15
bnemecdhellmann: It is.  There don't appear to have been any changes that require a new release though.20:17
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dhellmannhmm, ok. the docs show an old version20:37
openstackgerritKen Giusti proposed openstack/oslo.messaging master: DO NOT MERGE - debugging a gate failure  https://review.openstack.org/55465820:37
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dhellmannoh, yeah, just a few doc and requirements updates20:37
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bnemecdhellmann: Is it possible the last release for stevedore would have gotten hit with a zuul outage or something?  Maybe we just need to trigger another one?21:11
dhellmannbnemec : the version listed is 1.28.1.dev7 and there are about 7 patches so I think it's actually fine21:12
dhellmannI should have looked at what those patches were21:12
dhellmann7 seemed like a lot for that library :-)21:12
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