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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: we've been able to restart zuul, and re-enqueue changes for gate. Please hold off on recheck or approves, we are still recovering. More info shortly. | 14:30 | |
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| gcb | weekly meeting in 5 minutes | 14:54 |
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| gcb | #startmeeting oslo | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 29 15:00:27 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gcb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 15:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, crushil, dansmith, dhellmann | 15:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for dims, dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb | 15:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for GheRivero, haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti | 15:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for kragniz, lhx_, lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor | 15:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 15:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak | 15:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek,zxy,stephenfin | 15:00 |
| ansmith | hello gcb | 15:01 |
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| gcb | hi e0ne ansmith | 15:01 |
| kgiusti | hi! | 15:01 |
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| jungleboyj | Howdy. | 15:02 |
| gcb | hi jungleboyj | 15:02 |
| gcb | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 15:02 |
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| jungleboyj | Don't think Cinder has any red flags. | 15:02 |
| bnemec | o/ | 15:03 |
| * gcb wave to bnemec | 15:03 | |
| gcb | jungleboyj: thanks | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: We will need to get in the iso8601 change to be able to raise the g-r for oslo.versionedutils. That's all I'm aware of. | 15:03 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Is there a patch for that? | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536182/ | 15:04 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Thank you. | 15:05 |
| gcb | smcginnis: should we issue release for oslo.versionedobjects and other libraries this week ? | 15:06 |
| gcb | I think we passed the date we can do that | 15:06 |
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| smcginnis | gcb: oslo.versionedobjects was released, but now there is a failure on the patch to raise the global requirements. | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | So worse case we will have to keep it capped for queens, but I think the requirements team is hoping the affected projects get updated and we can raise that. | 15:08 |
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| crushil | Hi. Sorry I'm late | 15:08 |
| gcb | hi crushil | 15:10 |
| gcb | smcginnis: do you mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538521/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531788/ | 15:10 |
| gcb | just https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538521/ | 15:11 |
| gcb | hope we can bump that ASAP | 15:11 |
| gcb | #topic Releases | 15:12 |
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| smcginnis | gcb: Oh, thanks. I was just looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538549/1, but it appears 538521 will be needed first. | 15:12 |
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| gcb | yeah, we need update upper-constraint first | 15:13 |
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| gcb | there is no new release for oslo this week | 15:14 |
| gcb | #topic PTG | 15:15 |
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| gcb | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-ptg-rocky | 15:15 |
| gcb | still need more topics to discuss, please feel free to add more :-) | 15:16 |
| gcb | #topic Stuck Reviews | 15:17 |
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| gcb | any stuck reviews ? | 15:17 |
| gcb | as we discussed in the last weekly meeting , we have been triaging bugs and record ownership at the bottom of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-queens-tasks | 15:19 |
| gcb | Some projects' bugs need to be triaged, please feel free to take over if you have time :-) | 15:20 |
| gcb | #topic Open discussion | 15:20 |
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| kgiusti | Q: would anyone object if I enabled "expire incomplete bugs" setting in launchpad for oslo.messaging? | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | we should have that set for all repos | 15:21 |
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| dhellmann | I mean, it might not but, but it should be | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | ugh, "might not be" | 15:21 |
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| dhellmann | so yes, please turn it on :-) | 15:22 |
| kgiusti | will do, thanks. | 15:22 |
| gcb | ++ | 15:22 |
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| kgiusti | other news: our friend msimonin from INRIA and the Fog/Edge/Massively Distributed Cloud WG has been testing oslo.messaging's behavior in various large scale tests... | 15:23 |
| kgiusti | time permitting he'd be able to talk about this at PTG (see line 66 in the ptg planning epad) | 15:24 |
| gcb | kgiusti: go to know that | 15:24 |
| msimonin | hi all :) | 15:25 |
| gcb | hi msimonin | 15:25 |
| kgiusti | It's a great opportunity to get some feedback from large scale testing. thanks msimonin! | 15:27 |
| msimonin | My pleasure kgiusti :) | 15:27 |
| msimonin | how much time do we have per slots ? | 15:27 |
| kgiusti | I suspect that depends on how many slots we use up :) gcb? | 15:28 |
| gcb | it's depends on specific team, maybe 45 minutes or longer than that | 15:28 |
| gcb | yeah, depends on the volumes of how many topics we have, we have one day | 15:29 |
| dhellmann | would this be a presentation of performance data, or proposals for improvements based on that performance data? | 15:30 |
| msimonin | There will be data definetely | 15:31 |
| msimonin | Regarding possible improvements, there might be some discussions indeed | 15:32 |
| dhellmann | ok, good | 15:32 |
| msimonin | I even know that kgiusti has some new APIs in mind :) | 15:34 |
| kgiusti | msimonin: now don't give away all the surprises! :D | 15:34 |
| msimonin | I'm just teasing a bit :) | 15:35 |
| gcb | :-), looking forward to surprises | 15:36 |
| gcb | Just a reminder of PTL elections : http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126230.html | 15:37 |
| gcb | https://governance.openstack.org/election/ | 15:37 |
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| gcb | any other topic ? | 15:41 |
| gcb | okay, we can end the meeting now, have a nice day everyone | 15:42 |
| gcb | #endmeeting | 15:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 29 15:43:12 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-01-29-15.00.html | 15:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-01-29-15.00.txt | 15:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-01-29-15.00.log.html | 15:43 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 15:43 |
| kgiusti | bye! | 15:43 |
| msimonin | Bye ! | 15:44 |
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| jroll | hey y'all, these docs: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.db/blob/0260f0e/oslo_db/sqlalchemy/enginefacade.py#L268 seem to be the opposite of what the code does: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.db/blob/0260f0e/oslo_db/sqlalchemy/enginefacade.py#L396 | 21:07 |
| jroll | is that intentional, or am I missing something? seems to me like the code is right and the docs are wrong | 21:08 |
| zer0c00l | harlowja: ^^ | 21:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Bayer proposed openstack/oslo.db master: Allow connection query string to be passed separately. https://review.openstack.org/539035 | 22:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Bayer proposed openstack/oslo.db master: Allow connection query string to be passed separately. https://review.openstack.org/539035 | 22:51 |
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| zer0c00l | zzzeek: ping | 23:06 |
| zzzeek | zer0c00l: hi | 23:06 |
| zer0c00l | Could you clarify jroll's comment above please. I have been told that you are the best person to talk about this issue | 23:07 |
| zer0c00l | i also opened up a bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.db/+bug/1746116 | 23:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1746116 in oslo.db "synchronous_reader: Either the code or documentation is wrong" [Undecided,New] | 23:07 |
| zer0c00l | My question is does 'synchronous_reader' means do we assume the db is replicated synchronously? | 23:07 |
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| melwitt | zzzeek: heh, yes I recommended you. they're using async replication and running into races with db reads of stale/slave fixed_ips table, yet none of the fixed_ips methods are decorated to use async reader | 23:09 |
| melwitt | or allow_async | 23:10 |
| zzzeek | melwitt: i am reading the code and re-familiarizing | 23:10 |
| melwitt | cool. I dug into it several weeks ago and remained stumped as to how the slave connection was being read if no allow_async indicated | 23:12 |
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| zzzeek | melwitt zer0c00l jroll it would appear that synchronous_reader's behavior is reversed all the way through, there's plenty of tests also and they seem to explciitly assoicate "synchronous_reader" with the async_reader_engine | 23:15 |
| zzzeek | melwitt zer0c00l jroll so this needs to all be reversed | 23:15 |
| zer0c00l | i see | 23:16 |
| zer0c00l | This essentially breaks anyone who runs asynchronous replication between master db and slave :| | 23:17 |
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| melwitt | zzzeek: interesting, I wonder when it regressed. and somehow I missed that it was all backward :\ | 23:20 |
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| zzzeek | melwitt: was wrong from day one | 23:20 |
| zzzeek | do a git blame | 23:20 |
| melwitt | well, I know that async replication used to work. so maybe it happened when the session transaction manager stuff was added | 23:21 |
| melwitt | (which was a long time ago, I know) | 23:22 |
| zzzeek | melwitt: if you used the @async_reader decorator then everything was fine | 23:23 |
| zzzeek | also, replication lag is hard to actually hit w/ galera | 23:24 |
| zzzeek | its slight | 23:24 |
| melwitt | zzzeek: what do you mean? in nova we have only had the async decorator on a couple of things (which we use to mean, safe to read from slave db) | 23:25 |
| zzzeek | melwitt: it means if you had @reader decorator, and you had slave DB configured, it was reading from the slave DB. when actually, since you set synchronized_reader to True (we assume), it should have been reading from the writer DB | 23:27 |
| zzzeek | melwitt: you would only see a problem if you had a web method that used only @reader from beginning to end, and this @reader relied upon reading data just committed by a @writer, and then you got replication lag that caused that data to not be present yet in the slave DB | 23:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Bayer proposed openstack/oslo.db master: Reverse role of synchronous_reader https://review.openstack.org/539046 | 23:28 |
| melwitt | zzzeek: I see | 23:28 |
| melwitt | zer0c00l, jroll ^ patch is up | 23:30 |
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| melwitt | then hopefully we can backport it to stable/pike and stable/ocata and release .z releases for them | 23:31 |
| zer0c00l | Thank you | 23:31 |
| melwitt | and test it out if you can, make sure it solves all the issues you were seeing | 23:32 |
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