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| tonyb | gcb: ping? | 06:08 |
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| gcb | tonyb: pong | 06:09 |
| tonyb | gcb: at the oslo meeting you discussed the mitaka releases with dhellmann ... It seemed that there was somethign additional you wanted to check with me | 06:09 |
| tonyb | gcb: I didn't get what exactly from the context .... so how can I help? | 06:10 |
| gcb | yeah, http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-06-26-14.00.log.html | 06:10 |
| gcb | the question is　: <bknudson> just wondering if the tag should be current stable/mitaka or the released commit | 06:11 |
| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects master: Add unit test for unicode in object __repr__ https://review.openstack.org/462288 | 06:12 |
| tonyb | Oh right yeah I see now. Well historically it's been the HEAD of the stable branch so that *if* we need to un-EOL somethign we have all the histroy, also some projects have lots of unreleased changes | 06:12 |
| tonyb | gcb: so at least for mitaka it should stay that way but I'd be happy to disucss it at the PTG / on the mailing list to see if that's still the right thing to do | 06:13 |
| tonyb | also that explains why I I felt like I needed to talk to bknudson :D | 06:15 |
| tonyb | gcb: does that clear anythign up? | 06:15 |
| gcb | tonyb, agree. Maybe we need decide the date of last release commit for each branch and post it in the email or write down in some place. that will help PTL or release liaisons take actions before the deadline | 06:17 |
| tonyb | gcb: the EOL date for each release is on https://releases.openstack.org/ isn't that enough? | 06:18 |
| gcb | tonyb: I checked the link, That's the last date of merging code to stable/branch, what's the last date of accepting a release commit for stable/branch | 06:21 |
| gcb | tonyb: If we keep the branch stable/mitaka, that means we still accept the patch, right ? | 06:22 |
| tonyb | gcb: Oh I see what you're asking. | 06:22 |
| tonyb | gcb: Until that date, at that point we start unraveling the machinery that lets the older branches work | 06:22 |
| tonyb | gcb: It's taken a longer time that usual for mitaka :( | 06:22 |
| tonyb | but going back to the last release date vs last merge/EOL date. I don't have agood answer for you | 06:23 |
| tonyb | gcb: I'd say that EOL - 2 weeks would ba my first pass, with an appropriate exception process | 06:24 |
| gcb | tonyb: Maybe we need find a proposal process to write down them. would like to discuss this at the PTG | 06:25 |
| gcb | or post it in the dev ML now ? | 06:25 |
| tonyb | gcb: I shoudl note that you're free to keep the stable/mitakak branch around for as long as you like (EOL'ing is at some level optionsal) but once we get to a certain point even running unit tests on thos branches is just too hard | 06:26 |
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| tonyb | gcb: Sure I'll send a quick email to the list | 06:26 |
| gcb | tonyb: thanks, do you mean we don't run unit/integration tests at a certain point ? | 06:27 |
| gcb | for stable/mitaka | 06:28 |
| tonyb | gcb: well the tests you run need other parts of OpenStack for example devstack, requirements keystone nova etc | 06:28 |
| tonyb | so as the EOL those parts of OpenStack you can't *easily* run those tests | 06:28 |
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| tonyb | gcb: even if you say "we just want tox -epy35,py27", *they* need a corresponding branch of requiremenst (or an update to tox.ini) to work | 06:29 |
| tonyb | and then lastly at some point we want to remove trusty from nodepool if you're still running py34 jibs they'll break at that point | 06:30 |
| tonyb | so the longer you stay open for harder it is to justify the development costs | 06:30 |
| tonyb | gcb: So yeah at some point you have to EOL or admit that it's basically untested | 06:31 |
| gcb | tonyb: I can understand the situation, I aslo agree we need stop the tests at certain point. | 06:31 |
| gcb | My concern is what' the date of that happening , maybe I missed something | 06:31 |
| tonyb | gcb: So just before the EOL date I send a list of the repos I think shoudl be EOL'd based on the criteria | 06:31 |
| tonyb | at that point you can opt out but for a project like oslo you'd need to have very good reasons. | 06:32 |
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| tonyb | gcb: it *should* have happend by now, but things got delayed (due to me entering the job market) and right now infra is very busy with other things. | 06:33 |
| tonyb | so the date we "pull the plug" isn't easy to define ahead of time. | 06:33 |
| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects master: Add unit test for unicode in object __repr__ https://review.openstack.org/462288 | 06:33 |
| gcb | tonyb: agree, things didn't go well as planned :-) | 06:34 |
| tonyb | gcb: and we're looking forward to the point this can all be handled just like adding a release .. via the openstack/reeleases repo :) | 06:35 |
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| gcb | tonyb: also looking forward to find the easy way to share the date to stopping tests for specific stable branch. That will involve project PTLs, release team and infra team. | 06:42 |
| tonyb | gcb: well normally tests stop the date we tag $branch-eol :) | 06:42 |
| gcb | PTLs will prepare the last release commit before that date | 06:43 |
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| gcb | I'm a little confusing https://github.com/openstack/oslo.log/tree/stable/mitaka still exist, but we stop the tests ? | 06:44 |
| tonyb | gcb: It's confusing! | 06:45 |
| tonyb | gcb: We continue to test oslo.log's mitaka branch until we EOL it (and we EOL devstack/requiremnets last) | 06:46 |
| tonyb | gcb: What I was tallking about befoer is if a project decides to *NOT* eol. At that point there is an informal set of steps that needs to happen | 06:47 |
| tonyb | gcb: and that needs to be driver by that PTL in conjunction with infar and stable PTL | 06:47 |
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| tonyb | gcb: so there isn't a formal "we no longer test" date. The closest we have is the EOL date which is when we're supposed to start tagging those branches | 06:48 |
| gcb | tonyb: sorry, just back, got it thanks | 06:53 |
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| gcb | tonyb: what I leaned from the case is we should release stable branch frequently like master branch, that will avoid the case can't release stable branch nearby the date of EOL. | 07:00 |
| tonyb | gcb: Yup. It is in fact one of the things you agree to when you apply for stable:follows-policy | 07:02 |
| tonyb | gcb: You probably don't want weekly releases on stable/* but monthly? that could work | 07:03 |
| gcb | tonyb: ++ | 07:04 |
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| rm_work | 2017-06-27 18:35:17.766 12 DEBUG oslo_policy._cache_handler [req-cedfdfef-ffc0-4b9c-b2f7-eb10d8a2ee0b user 1be95d2dfcae4ab281004e22553c0d92 - default default] Reloading cached file /etc/octavia/policy.json read_cached_file /var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python2.7/site-packages/oslo_policy/_cache_handler.py:40 | 18:35 |
| rm_work | 2017-06-27 18:35:17.767 12 DEBUG oslo_policy.policy [req-cedfdfef-ffc0-4b9c-b2f7-eb10d8a2ee0b user 1be95d2dfcae4ab281004e22553c0d92 - default default] Reloaded policy file: /etc/octavia/policy.json _load_policy_file /var/lib/kolla/venv/lib/python2.7/site-packages/oslo_policy/policy.py:681 | 18:36 |
| rm_work | is that normal? | 18:36 |
| rm_work | I can't actually tell if that means it's hitting the cache or not | 18:36 |
| rm_work | it seems like *not*? | 18:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslosphinx master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/478065 | 18:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.log master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/478053 | 19:43 |
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| therve | rm_work, No it's not. Looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1658083 | 19:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1658083 in heat "Heat API services re-read policy.json on each request" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Thomas Herve (therve) | 19:56 |
| therve | There is an easy fix in progress | 19:57 |
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| rm_work | therve: k thanks, yeah we figured out why that was happening, and are looking and fixing it now | 20:25 |
| rm_work | it is in fact the exact same issue | 20:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.log master: only show error_summary for warning and error messages https://review.openstack.org/478285 | 21:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.config master: import content from the configuration reference guide https://review.openstack.org/473560 | 21:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.config master: rearrange docs based on new standard layout https://review.openstack.org/473559 | 21:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.config master: switch from oslosphinx to openstackdocstheme https://review.openstack.org/477664 | 21:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.config master: update the documentation URL in the readme https://review.openstack.org/476528 | 21:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.log master: rearrange content to fit the new standard layout https://review.openstack.org/476976 | 21:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.log master: switch from oslosphinx to openstackdocstheme https://review.openstack.org/476977 | 21:18 |
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| harlowja | hmmmm, ya, rm_work https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1658083 seems to do the same global stuff i think u are trying | 21:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1658083 in heat "Heat API services re-read policy.json on each request" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Thomas Herve (therve) | 21:40 |
| rm_work | yeah harlowja | 21:41 |
| harlowja | doesn't feel like the right fix | 21:41 |
| harlowja | not exactly how i would do it i guess, lol | 21:42 |
| harlowja | but might be the way that works for now | 21:43 |
| harlowja | better way is to truely seperate loading from enforcing | 21:43 |
| harlowja | for some reason they seem strongly connected | 21:43 |
| harlowja | ie, something like | 21:50 |
| harlowja | compiled_policy = policy.load(policy_file) | 21:50 |
| harlowja | compiled_rules = rules.load(rules) | 21:51 |
| harlowja | e = enforcer.combine(compiled_policy, compiled_rules) | 21:51 |
| harlowja | then re-load the compiled policy or rules as often as u want (or never) | 21:51 |
| harlowja | and keep `enforcer.combine` simple/small/fast | 21:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dong Ma proposed openstack/oslo.middleware master: switch from oslosphinx to openstackdocstheme https://review.openstack.org/477842 | 22:08 |
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