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| dulek | Hi! Is there a way to set StrOpt in nova.conf to yield a None, and not "None"? | 08:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gevorg Davoian proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: Avoid busy loop on epoll_wait with heartbeat+eventlet https://review.openstack.org/386656 | 10:02 |
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| sileht | /1/1 | 10:14 |
| sileht | dulek, I'm guessing "my_config_var = " <-- with no value | 10:15 |
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| dulek | sileht: Well, not really, it will evaluate to empty string. I guess it's impossible. | 10:22 |
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| sileht | dulek, if the application have a different meaning for empty string and None the application is buggy | 10:38 |
| sileht | StrOpt will always return string, so catch None is useless | 10:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.db: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/392806 | 14:23 |
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| trevormc | Can someone help me understand why the Range type can not be found in the oslo.config package in my patch ? I've been confused about this for a while, thanks :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337914/ | 14:26 |
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| sileht | trevormc, change your requirement to oslo.config>=3.19 | 14:33 |
| trevormc | sileht: thanks, the documentation said 3.16 so that's why I was confused. I will try 3.19 now :) | 14:34 |
| sileht | trevormc, Range is supported only since 3.18 | 14:34 |
| sileht | trevormc, I will fix the doc | 14:35 |
| sileht | trevormc, your are banning 3.18 | 14:35 |
| sileht | trevormc, 3.19 have been release yesterday | 14:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.config: doc: Fix Range type version https://review.openstack.org/393803 | 14:37 |
| sileht | trevormc, ^ the doc fix | 14:37 |
| trevormc | sileht: Great I will review it once I can confirm the Range type works in 3.19 | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/oslo.config: doc: Fix Range type version https://review.openstack.org/393803 | 14:37 |
| sileht | trevormc, that doesn't need any test: | 14:39 |
| sileht | git tag --contains a3c590e806b49cd15a9556dbc71f059e2c2d3962 | 14:39 |
| sileht | 3.18.0 | 14:39 |
| sileht | 3.19.0 | 14:39 |
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| amrith | harlowja, have some time to chat about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205330/? | 19:28 |
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| harlowja | amrith ah that one | 20:18 |
| harlowja | havne't opened that in a while, ha | 20:18 |
| harlowja | *haven't | 20:18 |
| harlowja | @amrith do u want to take that over? | 20:18 |
| harlowja | i'm ok with that | 20:18 |
| amrith | harlowja, I wanted to chat with you about it | 20:18 |
| harlowja | or i can abandon and u can make a better one | 20:18 |
| harlowja | k | 20:18 |
| amrith | and the history of this | 20:18 |
| amrith | you recall the conversation in the summit about this | 20:18 |
| amrith | (I hope) | 20:19 |
| harlowja | we had a summit????!??? | 20:19 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:19 |
| amrith | well, I think we did. or at least I went to barcelona for some reason :) | 20:19 |
| harlowja | yes, i remember (mostly) | 20:19 |
| amrith | I'm looking at the code there and it seems like a nice place to do things | 20:19 |
| harlowja | right | 20:19 |
| harlowja | it was meant to be some really basic stuff that would skip the prior attempts at it | 20:20 |
| amrith | but the approach there seems to be that the computation of the checksum is in oslo | 20:20 |
| amrith | I had been contemplating having a callback to the caller for the computation and verification of the checksum | 20:20 |
| amrith | not sure if that's the right thing to do or not | 20:20 |
| amrith | 6 of one, half dozen of the other kind of thing | 20:20 |
| harlowja | right | 20:21 |
| amrith | I'm fine doing it this way but then there needs to be some mechanism to safely get the secret down to the serialize_msg method | 20:21 |
| harlowja | right, how hard is a callback to pull off | 20:21 |
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| amrith | if I want to do the checksum at the place you have it, it makes it identically hard | 20:22 |
| harlowja | :) | 20:22 |
| harlowja | right | 20:22 |
| amrith | whether you have to pass a callback or a secret, it is a parameter that has to make its way down | 20:22 |
| harlowja | agreed | 20:22 |
| amrith | but it is much more attractive for me to be able to do the computation of checksum in oslo messaging than doing it all in the project (trove in my case) | 20:23 |
| amrith | however I am also wondering about upgrade implications | 20:23 |
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| harlowja | ya, its hard to start enforcing that across versions | 20:24 |
| amrith | i'd hoped I could have a flag in trove that indicated that for one release (co-existance) there would be no enforcement of signatures | 20:24 |
| amrith | that would be hard to if I bury the logic in oslo. | 20:24 |
| amrith | so I was hoping to put my thoughts together on this and maybe have a chat with you and or the right folks. I'm not so much concerned about your patch or the abandonment or taking it over. more the issue now is what is the approach and why did past attempts fail? | 20:24 |
| harlowja | if its a callback though u at least could have a callback named oslo.messaging.validation.warn_but_not_enforce | 20:24 |
| harlowja | for example | 20:24 |
| harlowja | or oslo.messaging.validation.enforce | 20:25 |
| amrith | yes, that's correct; and it would be more customizable. | 20:25 |
| amrith | so to figure out history, I've reached out to some of the names in old reviews that were merged and abandoned | 20:25 |
| harlowja | kk | 20:25 |
| amrith | and the links that dims provided | 20:25 |
| harlowja | ya, i don't even remember all the history :-P | 20:25 |
| harlowja | it goes back quite far, ha | 20:25 |
| amrith | Now, if I want this all to happen for ocata; what's the deadline? | 20:25 |
| harlowja | before even that review | 20:25 |
| amrith | or should I not even bother | 20:25 |
| amrith | is this where you start laughing hysterically :) | 20:26 |
| harlowja | i'm ok with doing it, as long as its backwards-compat it doesn't seem harmful | 20:26 |
| harlowja | so imho do it | 20:26 |
| harlowja | though as u can see https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/trusted-messaging | 20:27 |
| harlowja | i don't even remember some of that history, lol | 20:27 |
| harlowja | goes back to 2013, woah | 20:27 |
| amrith | ok, it is easier to deal with backward compat down in oslo; i.e if the code doesn't know what to do with the signature, it'll drop it. in trove, that would be harder; the receiver would puke on the unknown argument if the version of code didn't have something to take it out before calling the actual RPC | 20:27 |
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| amrith | in my decorator method, the decorator is the one which would remove the signature from the parameters before calling the actual RPC method. | 20:28 |
| harlowja | ya, i feel like a validation callback (and one that signs also?) seems ok, one that can be a no_op by default | 20:28 |
| amrith | yes, the no-op would mean that the app is ignoring the validation mechanism; which is fine. up to the app to do. | 20:29 |
| harlowja | ya | 20:29 |
| amrith | sounds good, I'll chug along on this path and see where it takes me. | 20:29 |
| amrith | thanks harlowja | 20:29 |
| harlowja | np | 20:29 |
| harlowja | amrith let me know what history u find out | 20:29 |
| harlowja | maybe just burned to many people out trying that, idk | 20:30 |
| harlowja | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128926 is another one to | 20:30 |
| harlowja | seems like really complex, idk | 20:31 |
| amrith | here's the list of links I've made so far | 20:31 |
| amrith | https://gist.github.com/amrith/44f1527037e5fd68e4daec13401aa050 | 20:31 |
| amrith | added your latest one at the end | 20:31 |
| harlowja | kk | 20:32 |
| harlowja | seeing how http://www.grpc.io/docs/guides/auth.html does this is also interesing to think about | 20:32 |
| amrith | yes, and there were also some attempts to implement the standard rpc auth mechanism (ala rfc5531) along the way. | 20:34 |
| harlowja | ya, write a mini-book about this when u are done | 20:34 |
| amrith | recognized those and recall some old scars with that ;) | 20:34 |
| harlowja | or a kids book | 20:34 |
| harlowja | maybe a mini-kids-book | 20:34 |
| harlowja | with nice pictures | 20:34 |
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| amrith | have you noticed, on the kids-book theme, that most childrens books are actually nightmarish? mary had a little lamb and someone took it away, little miss muffet was attacked by a spider, humpty dumpty broke his head. Do you know of a nursery rhyme that ends happily? | 20:35 |
| harlowja | the auth+oslo.messaging one | 20:35 |
| harlowja | obviously will end happy | 20:35 |
| amrith | :) | 20:35 |
| amrith | nice pictures for sure; I see that some of the blog posts that dims referenced had some serious graphics :) | 20:36 |
| harlowja | :) | 20:36 |
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| harlowja | amrith maybe on oslo meeting on monday we can talk about your findings? | 21:38 |
| harlowja | or maybe to early? | 21:39 |
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| amrith | harlowja, sure. I'll try and get something down for then | 21:57 |
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| harlowja | jd__ what does pifpaf mean btw? | 23:00 |
| harlowja | is it french for something? | 23:00 |
| harlowja | lol | 23:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslotest: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/393961 | 23:56 |
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