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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/debtcollector: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/377429 | 02:16 |
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| gcb | oslo guys , please help review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353197/ a useful patch to make us detect DeprecationWarning in test | 03:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.utils: doc: Fix docstring of method bool_from_string https://review.openstack.org/380284 | 13:17 |
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| dulek | rpodolyaka: Hi! Can you take a look at http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/104331.html ? | 13:43 |
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| dulek | rpodolyaka: Any pointers where should I look to try debugging these issues? | 13:43 |
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| rpodolyaka | dulek: hey! looking | 14:04 |
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| rpodolyaka | dulek: will respond to the ML thread | 14:11 |
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| dulek | rpodolyaka: Awesome. I don't even know where to start looking, so any help is greatly appreciated. :) | 14:12 |
| rpodolyaka | dulek: np! I don't think I can give you any revelations, but still | 14:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Routing table refactoring, dynamic direct connections https://review.openstack.org/372001 | 14:47 |
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| rpodolyaka | dulek: done | 14:55 |
| rpodolyaka | zzzeek: maybe you will have something to add to [openstack-dev] [cinder][db] lazy loading of an attribute impossible | 14:55 |
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| dulek | rpodolyaka: Awesome, I'll take a look and ask further questions on the ML. :) Thanks! | 14:57 |
| rpodolyaka | dulek: no problem! | 14:57 |
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| zzzeek | rpodolyaka: what, cinder just detaches everything? yeah, well pretend they didnt have an orm. what would they expect to see ? | 15:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/tooz: file: move _read_{group,member}_id to staticmethod-s https://review.openstack.org/347841 | 15:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/tooz: file: move _load_and_validate to a method https://review.openstack.org/347842 | 15:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/tooz: file: return converted voluptuous data https://review.openstack.org/347843 | 15:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/tooz: file: update .metadata atomically https://review.openstack.org/347844 | 15:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kirill Bespalov proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [simulator] Automatic stopping of rpc-servers https://review.openstack.org/380380 | 15:31 |
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| gsilvis | I have two oslo.cache changes that have been awaiting review for a month now: https://review.openstack.org/357412 and https://review.openstack.org/357460 | 15:51 |
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| rpodolyaka | zzzeek: yeah... it's not entirely cinder's fault, though. I think they copied the approach when they originally forked from Nova. This idea of "simple" DB API layer just kills all the benefits one gets from libraries like SQLAlchemy | 16:10 |
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| rpodolyaka | anyway, I pointed them to the new enginefacade | 16:10 |
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| zzzeek | crap. lost my log | 16:10 |
| rpodolyaka | that's the very least they should do | 16:10 |
| * zzzeek goes to the server to see what rpodolyaka just said... | 16:11 | |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tooz: etcd: run tests in clustering mode too https://review.openstack.org/345315 | 16:11 |
| rpodolyaka | zzzeek: yeah... it's not entirely cinder's fault, though. I think they copied the approach when they originally forked from Nova. This idea of "simple" DB API layer just kills all the benefits one gets from libraries like SQLAlchemy | 16:11 |
| rpodolyaka | :) | 16:11 |
| zzzeek | rpodolyaka: right | 16:11 |
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| zzzeek | i dont get why they want to use lazyloading then. if they had "simple" db layer, they have to query the DB when they want the data | 16:12 |
| zzzeek | it's like, pick a side | 16:12 |
| rpodolyaka | zzzeek: I think they do it unintentionally :) | 16:13 |
| zzzeek | yeah | 16:13 |
| rpodolyaka | just due to the fact that relationships are lazy be default | 16:13 |
| rpodolyaka | *by | 16:13 |
| zzzeek | so they can set them to "immediate" | 16:13 |
| rpodolyaka | sure | 16:13 |
| zzzeek | which means crap-ton of SELECT for every object if you have lots of relationships | 16:13 |
| zzzeek | again i ask, OK nova didn't like ORMs. suppose this wasnt an ORM, no lazy loading. how would it work ? | 16:13 |
| zzzeek | theyd have to say, "load this thing also" | 16:14 |
| zzzeek | they can do that now | 16:14 |
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| rpodolyaka | sure. I guess it's just they don't know that laziness is by default | 16:15 |
| zzzeek | they can put "immediate" on all their relationships but i doubt they want that either | 16:16 |
| rpodolyaka | or relationships were added after corresponding "DB API" functions were introduced | 16:16 |
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| rpodolyaka | yeah, in nova these functions usually accept arguments "joinload_X", etc | 16:16 |
| rpodolyaka | anyway, I hope Cinder folks will at least consider using of the new enginefacade | 16:17 |
| rpodolyaka | so that they can easily change the session scope | 16:17 |
| rpodolyaka | and then deal with lazy vs eager load | 16:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/automaton: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/380555 | 19:57 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/futurist: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/380561 | 19:58 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/373775 | 20:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/tooz: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/346782 | 20:07 |
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| harlowja | damn, just merged all of those :-P | 22:41 |
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| amrith | harlowja, ping ... I'll bring this up in the monday meeting if I don't hear from you before that but, trevormc pushed up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339787/ and he's looking for an oslo.config release with this change so he can do the corresponding trove stuff. Any ETA's on an oslo.config version going to pypi? | 23:35 |
| harlowja | need to ensure all newton releases are done :) | 23:38 |
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| amrith | they aren't? | 23:41 |
| amrith | I thought requirements were frozen | 23:41 |
| amrith | so for all intents and purposes, oslo was done with newton, no? | 23:41 |
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