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| amrith | harlowja, enough for today; will try and make sense of imperfection tomorrow .... ARGH! | 00:05 |
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| stevemar | dims: have time to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328899/ ? | 03:11 |
| patchbot | stevemar: patch 328899 - requirements - Bump dogpile.cache to 0.6.1 | 03:11 |
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| AJaeger | oslo cores, could you import translations again, please? See https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:zanata/translations,n,z for all open changes | 09:59 |
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| amrith | ^^ harlowja, dhellmann, bknudson, dims ^^ | 11:34 |
| amrith | ^^ jd__ ^^ | 11:34 |
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| bknudson | amrith: for keystone we need a function that generates timestamps like 2013-02-27T18:30:59.999999Z -- per the spec http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/api/v3/identity-api-v3.html#tokens | 12:51 |
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| harlowja | amrith i'm sure jd__ will love all of this :-P | 16:38 |
| harlowja | ;) | 16:38 |
| amrith | harlowja, yes. I copied him on it and added him to the review after I noticed that he is one of the maintainers of the iso8601 library that we use :) | 16:39 |
| harlowja | ;) | 16:39 |
| amrith | bknudson, the code I proposed DOES do just what you want | 16:39 |
| amrith | isotime() the legacy one DOES NOT. it produces 2013-02-27T18:30:59.999999 | 16:40 |
| amrith | no Z at the end | 16:40 |
| amrith | I have highlighted this difference specifically in my review | 16:40 |
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| amrith | bknudson ^^ | 16:40 |
| bknudson | amrith: great, so we could use that code now and continue to use it going forward. We would not use isoformat. | 16:42 |
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| amrith | ++ | 16:45 |
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| amrith | rbradfor, yt? | 16:57 |
| amrith | will you be pushing up a new change set for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296667/? | 16:57 |
| patchbot | amrith: patch 296667 - python-troveclient - [WIP] Replace Oslo Incubator apiclient usage | 16:57 |
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| AJaeger | oslo cores, could you import translations again, please? See https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:zanata/translations,n,z for all open changes | 17:02 |
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| harlowja | will do | 17:15 |
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| AJaeger | thanks, harlowja ! | 17:20 |
| harlowja | np | 17:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.privsep: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/328596 | 18:01 |
| amrith | harlowja, got a second to discuss your comment (line 99, timeutils.py) | 18:02 |
| openstackgerrit | amrith proposed openstack/oslo.utils: un-deprecate (resurrect) timeutils.isotime https://review.openstack.org/329384 | 18:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.reports: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/328594 | 18:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.utils: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/328606 | 18:17 |
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| harlowja | amrith in a few, gotta do a phone call | 18:30 |
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| jamielennox | hey oslos, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326782/ is a fairly simple patch adding oslo.config support where it was missed - i'm pushing this middleware to a couple of services and would really like to get it in before we get too far along | 18:33 |
| patchbot | jamielennox: patch 326782 - oslo.middleware - Expose sample config opts for http-proxy-to-wsgi | 18:33 |
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| amrith | ok harlowja | 18:43 |
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| harlowja_ | amrith ok i'm around if u got time | 20:00 |
| amrith | i have time, the tc meeting will be starting shortly and I'd like to listen in on that; happy to multitask if that's ok with you. | 20:01 |
| harlowja_ | ah, tc meeting, wonder if anything interesting happening there? | 20:01 |
| amrith | there usually is an informative discussion | 20:01 |
| harlowja_ | *sometimes* | 20:02 |
| harlowja_ | lol | 20:02 |
| amrith | well, the bar on what I consider informative is likely different from yours :) | 20:02 |
| harlowja_ | :-P | 20:02 |
| harlowja_ | fair enough | 20:02 |
| amrith | so I posted a response to your comment re: force utc | 20:02 |
| harlowja_ | ya, i'm just wondering if that's peoples resistance to the adding this back | 20:03 |
| harlowja_ | in that it makes those kinds of assumptions (by default) | 20:03 |
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| * harlowja_ just was a thought | 20:03 | |
| amrith | it may be, but these assumptions are the same ones that isoformat() makes | 20:03 |
| harlowja_ | fair point | 20:04 |
| harlowja_ | dims can u expand more on your thought about that review? | 20:05 |
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| harlowja_ | just to much pain for this? something else? | 20:05 |
| amrith | dims is at the tc meeting | 20:05 |
| harlowja_ | oh | 20:05 |
| harlowja_ | welllll | 20:05 |
| amrith | he and I talked about this a while ago | 20:06 |
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| amrith | I won't attempt to represent his point of view, but I understand it (though I don't agree with it). | 20:06 |
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| harlowja_ | i honestly (imho) don't see the big problem with having it, doesn't seem like it violates any standard, it does make an assumption about things that lack timezones but thats about it :-P | 20:06 |
| amrith | I understood it to be that having this in oslo added little value given that it can be done fairly painlessly with isoformat(). | 20:07 |
| amrith | In an ideal world, I think that would be meaningful. just like it does not make sense for oslo to have a wrapper on very unix system call. | 20:07 |
| harlowja_ | ya, meh, alot of the oslo_utils code u could say the same thing :-P | 20:07 |
| amrith | but in this case, I believe that the issue is a bit more convoluted. | 20:07 |
| harlowja_ | ya | 20:08 |
| amrith | there is a matter of standardization at issue here, and an uninteded consequence of the apparently obvious path of just telling people to use UTC and isoformat(). | 20:08 |
| amrith | setting aside the (IMHO infeasible) complications arising out of being prescriptive about the use of UTC, I think there's also the real issue of a change in behavior that people don't want. | 20:09 |
| amrith | the replacement of "Z" with +00:00. | 20:09 |
| harlowja_ | right the isoformat() change forced that | 20:09 |
| harlowja_ | (which even though it doesn't seem like it should matter i guess it does for folks) | 20:09 |
| amrith | not speaking for bknudson but I think that was the thing that may have driven the decision(s) he made. | 20:09 |
| harlowja_ | i'm a little unclear why it mattered though | 20:10 |
| harlowja_ | it seems like "Z" or +00:00 is == so not sure it matters? | 20:10 |
| harlowja_ | or maybe i don't know something :-P | 20:10 |
| amrith | downstream parsers which expected the Z and didn't expect the timezone | 20:10 |
| amrith | there would always be a Z | 20:10 |
| amrith | and never a +/-NN:NN | 20:10 |
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| harlowja_ | iso8601 lib that jd__ maintains :-P? | 20:10 |
| bknudson | identity never documented that we'd ever present +00:00. Only Z | 20:11 |
| harlowja_ | did u say u'd present a iso8601 string? | 20:11 |
| bknudson | No, we didn't say it was iso8601 | 20:11 |
| amrith | well, iso8601 is another issue ... see: http://pyiso8601.readthedocs.io/en/latest/#where-it-differs-from-iso-8601 | 20:11 |
| harlowja_ | k | 20:11 |
| harlowja_ | bknudson okie, thats interesting | 20:11 |
| amrith | Z is iso8601 and rfc 3339 compliant | 20:12 |
| harlowja_ | if the docs just said "iso8601" compliant string here, then it wouldn't i guess have mattered Z or 00:00 or ... (both seem compliant) | 20:12 |
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| harlowja_ | amrith ya, i'm unsure why that lib differs from the spec (weird) | 20:12 |
| amrith | yes, I don't know for sure either. | 20:13 |
| amrith | I looked through the code and commit histories for the project to see if there was an indication of why | 20:13 |
| amrith | but I could find none. | 20:13 |
| harlowja_ | probably jd__ fault, lol | 20:13 |
| harlowja_ | ha | 20:14 |
| harlowja_ | sneaky guy | 20:14 |
| harlowja_ | bknudson did the docs ever get updated to say 'iso8601 formatted string <here>' | 20:14 |
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| amrith | I did want to ask jd__ about the comment he made that he'd rather not maintain isotime() when isoformat() is available. I wondered whether he felt the same way about the iso8601 library and whether it'd change his mind if I volunteered to manage it. | 20:15 |
| bknudson | harlowja_: the docs don't actually define the format. The only place is in examples. | 20:15 |
| harlowja_ | bknudson k | 20:15 |
| bknudson | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/api/v3/identity-api-v3.html is the spec | 20:15 |
| bknudson | harlowja_: actually, there's one mention: updated: A string with the time when the specification status last changed in ISO8601 format. For example, “2013-03-06T00:00:00Z”. | 20:16 |
| harlowja_ | right most of those say 'A string with the time when the specification status last changed in ISO8601 format.' | 20:16 |
| harlowja_ | ah, ya, same one, ha | 20:16 |
| bknudson | so apparently one field is iso8601 | 20:16 |
| bknudson | the important ones are the ones in the token. | 20:17 |
| harlowja_ | expires_at (string, ISO 8601 extended format date time with microseconds) | 20:17 |
| harlowja_ | i guess those | 20:17 |
| harlowja_ | which also says ISO8601 format | 20:17 |
| bknudson | hmm, ok, maybe then we can just change it. | 20:17 |
| bknudson | we'd have to fix all the tests, and probably tempest | 20:17 |
| amrith | bknudson, there are changes all over the place if I have to change that | 20:18 |
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| amrith | all of our API tests (for example) | 20:18 |
| harlowja_ | perhaps, anything doing that strict of validation to not be able to use "Z" or "00:00" | 20:18 |
| bknudson | anyways, we're not going to change our code to switch from Z to 00:00 | 20:18 |
| harlowja_ | right, but then something seems iffy in those api tests (i guess its just doing raw string == or something?) | 20:18 |
| harlowja_ | bknudson fair, just thinking that in i guess an ideal world it wouldn't matter (cause both appear to be valid and equivalent) | 20:19 |
| bknudson | yes, since we've doc'd it's iso8601 then anything in iso8601 would work. | 20:20 |
| bknudson | could just put "1" there. | 20:20 |
| harlowja_ | so then jd__ amrith would people be more 'happy' if say we did a upstream python patch to put this in https://hg.python.org/cpython/file/tip/Lib/datetime.py#l1211 and then maintained the oslo_utils code (until said python change arrived/we cna use it, whenever openstack can use py3.6++++) | 20:21 |
| harlowja_ | that code we can use in about 25 years if its in 3.6 (but thats a different problem, lol) | 20:22 |
| amrith | 1s, timesliced by conversation on smaug | 20:23 |
| harlowja_ | k | 20:23 |
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| dims | harlowja_ : hosting isotime will repeat behavior of API's being busted as folks use it without thinking through. i'd rather they take the blame of their APIs being busted on their own accord | 20:27 |
| bknudson | anyways I don't know what the iso8601 format is since I don't want to pay ISO to read their docs. | 20:27 |
| harlowja_ | bknudson :) | 20:27 |
| amrith | am back | 20:28 |
| harlowja_ | dims ok, so the only busted case is the assumption that no_timezone == 'UTC' (for some definition of busted)? | 20:28 |
| amrith | for what definition of busted? that's an assumption ... :) | 20:29 |
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| harlowja_ | i need to know defintion first :-P | 20:30 |
| amrith | harlowja_, I don't think this is as much a matter of people liking or not but rather of OpenStack providing a common representation of timestamps. delegating everything down to projects is challenging in two situations; one for clients who are using openstack and second for projects that rely on other projects. | 20:31 |
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| amrith | if keystone for example changed its timestamp representation, the ripple could affect other projects as well. | 20:32 |
| amrith | especially if they followed the path of cloning isotime() with its existing warts. | 20:32 |
| amrith | actually, not just isotime(). there are other methods/functions being deprecated as well. | 20:32 |
| harlowja_ | likely | 20:32 |
| amrith | I think bknudson has a very good point when he says that we need a standard timestamp stringizing format for openstack | 20:33 |
| harlowja_ | iso8601 ? | 20:33 |
| amrith | well iso8601 is a specification | 20:33 |
| amrith | not a format | 20:33 |
| harlowja_ | k | 20:33 |
| amrith | it provides many formats that are all valid | 20:33 |
| harlowja_ | ya, pick the least crappy one of those | 20:33 |
| amrith | and is permissive to a fault. | 20:33 |
| harlowja_ | agreed | 20:33 |
| bknudson | iso8601 actually allows lots of formats, for example "1" is a valid iso8601 string. | 20:33 |
| harlowja_ | ya, thats a weird spec, lol | 20:34 |
| bknudson | it also supports durations | 20:34 |
| amrith | QED | 20:34 |
| bknudson | which is cool but way too lenient | 20:34 |
| harlowja_ | def | 20:34 |
| bknudson | something like https://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-datetime would be better | 20:34 |
| harlowja_ | def | 20:35 |
| harlowja_ | pick one of the 6 'levels' and that should do it | 20:35 |
| harlowja_ | or even 3 levels | 20:35 |
| harlowja_ | which i guess amrith why u are thinking the TC should perhaps take this topic up? | 20:36 |
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| harlowja_ | (or that's why i think u thought that) | 20:36 |
| harlowja_ | brb | 20:36 |
| bknudson | maybe the API working group. | 20:36 |
| bknudson | (if they don't have a recommendation already) | 20:36 |
| amrith | harlowja_, not really. I think someone else suggested it, maybe bknudson. but I think it makes sense that this is a formal decision, not an oslo/trove/keystone choice | 20:37 |
| bknudson | so I would prefer if the identity API spec referenced https://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-datetime rather than saying iso 8601. | 20:37 |
| bknudson | and that could probably be done anyways | 20:37 |
| bknudson | to take a wider view -- all of openstack should use the same format for timestamps. | 20:38 |
| amrith | that would make sense | 20:38 |
| amrith | and given that today there are few who use isoformat() we should stick to the current isotime() :> | 20:39 |
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| bknudson | saves a few bytes to use Z rather than 00:00 | 20:49 |
| harlowja_ | :-/ | 20:50 |
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| zancas | Hiya channel! | 20:58 |
| zancas | I'm wondering if it makes more sense to correct the docs here: | 20:58 |
| zancas | quired Option | 20:58 |
| zancas | 22 │ with 'min/max'. │* | bb0f7e3 (tag: 3.11.0) Merge "generator: format string default value for L | 20:58 |
| zancas | 23 from oslo_config import cfg │ │ist type properly" | 20:58 |
| zancas | :( Oooppsss... | 20:58 |
| zancas | Sorry the docs here: | 20:59 |
| zancas | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.config/blob/master/oslo_config/cfg.py#L42 | 20:59 |
| zancas | To assert that the value of the type parameter can be other-than-a-string? | 20:59 |
| zancas | Since e.g. types.Integer can accept ints? | 21:00 |
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| zancas | or would it be better to make the "types" more strict to match the implication of the doc... | 21:01 |
| zancas | i.e. make it so that non-string arguments raise an exception? | 21:01 |
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| zancas | The current behavior is that e.g. x = types.Integer(1,4) | 21:02 |
| zancas | y = x(3) | 21:02 |
| zancas | Works... which is inconsistent with the (poorly) linked doc... :( | 21:02 |
| zancas | Again sorry for the paste dump! | 21:03 |
| zancas | I could see reasonable arguments for either behavior... on the one hand... | 21:04 |
| zancas | It's pretty obvious what was intended when a user passed 3 as an option to a types.Integer | 21:04 |
| zancas | validated parameter... | 21:04 |
| zancas | On the other hand, when would we expect non-strings to be passed to an option parser? | 21:05 |
| zancas | Perhaps after options are parsed from config files? <-- In answer to my own question. | 21:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.config: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/322570 | 21:09 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/324848 | 21:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | zancas proposed openstack/oslo.config: Correct doc to include arbitrary inputs to `types` https://review.openstack.org/329684 | 21:25 |
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| elarson | does anyone here have any insight into who is responsible for the openstack dev list server? | 21:29 |
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| elarson | I've been getting disconnected from the list due to bounces and the folks managing my email could use some help figuring out why it is happening. | 21:30 |
| bknudson | elarson: I suggest taking that question to the #openstack-infra channel | 21:34 |
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| elarson | bknudson: thanks! will do! | 21:34 |
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| harlowja_ | lxsli just a quick question on the spooling stuff, when does log msg <-> value interpolation happen? | 22:19 |
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| harlowja_ | is it when added to the spool, or when the spool flushes? | 22:20 |
| harlowja_ | because it looks like 'The record sits in the spool until the context manager exits,' would be weird | 22:20 |
| harlowja_ | for example | 22:20 |
| harlowja_ | since python is by reference :-/ | 22:20 |
| harlowja_ | (except for value types) | 22:20 |
| harlowja_ | so if i was doing something like | 22:21 |
| harlowja_ | initial_users = ['a'] | 22:21 |
| harlowja_ | LOG.debug(my initial users, initial_users) | 22:21 |
| harlowja_ | then the_new_uers = initial_users | 22:22 |
| harlowja_ | the_new_uers .append("b") | 22:22 |
| harlowja_ | LOG.debug(my after modification users, the_new_uers) | 22:22 |
| harlowja_ | but if interpolation is delayed, both would have the same list :-/ | 22:22 |
| harlowja_ | (which would make for a weird log message) | 22:23 |
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