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| coolno1 | hello | 12:33 |
| coolno1 | a newbie here | 12:33 |
| coolno1 | trying to use oslo config | 12:33 |
| coolno1 | a que | 12:34 |
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| coolno1 | does oslo provide capability to read all the attributes in a section without registering them? | 12:34 |
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| * gcb will attend weekly meeting | 15:38 | |
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| harlowja_at_home | lifeless, i should be able to do a little in funcsigs this week i think :) | 15:47 |
| harlowja_at_home | but let's see, no promises yet :-P | 15:47 |
| harlowja_at_home | i also need to do a little in cloud-init, anvil and a few others, lol | 15:47 |
| harlowja_at_home | and all that oslo stuff :-P | 15:48 |
| harlowja_at_home | rbradfor, should i start drafting a blog post for the 'pre - harlowja - Oslo PTL goals for Newton ' blog | 15:49 |
| * harlowja_at_home is hoping i get my access to the godaddy services to get a shared-wordpress soon (they seem to have provided me a blank username) | 15:49 | |
| harlowja_at_home | this username gets me 'free' access to the paid godaddy services (such as hosted wordpress, domains...) | 15:50 |
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| harlowja_at_home | so ya, getting that fixed, lol | 15:54 |
| harlowja_at_home | 3 minutes to oslo meeting! | 15:57 |
| harlowja_at_home | get ready! | 15:57 |
| harlowja_at_home | ha | 15:57 |
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| harlowja_at_home | (probably will be a short meeting today imho) | 15:57 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Reminder, Gerrit will be offline from 20:00 to 21:00 UTC for a server replacement http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091274.html | 16:19 | |
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| amrith | and there you have it, I missed the entire meeting. What a doofus ... | 16:53 |
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| hoonetorg | ozamiatin: dims from openstack-ha told me to ask you regarding the usage of zmq instead of rabbitmq in openstack | 17:09 |
| hoonetorg | the official docs still use rabbitmq. | 17:09 |
| hoonetorg | what is the current state? | 17:11 |
| hoonetorg | how stable is it? | 17:11 |
| dims | hoonetorg : fyi, last summary from oleksii to the mailing list - http://markmail.org/message/owimiyhpe6aj4v3v | 17:13 |
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| hoonetorg | dims: thx | 17:15 |
| hoonetorg | i wondered how to get openstack with ha running. | 17:16 |
| hoonetorg | is it enough to install zmq and set messaging backend in config files to zmq ? | 17:16 |
| ozamiatin | hoonetorg: hi | 17:17 |
| hoonetorg | hi | 17:17 |
| ozamiatin | hoonetorg: please check http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.messaging/zmq_driver.html it's a deployment guide. I update it time after time | 17:18 |
| ozamiatin | hoonetorg: regarding to the previous question, it's not yet stable enough, we keep working on it | 17:19 |
| hoonetorg | ozamiatin: anyway, i will try out in my test cluster | 17:20 |
| ozamiatin | hoonetorg: sure, feel free to ping me if you need some help | 17:21 |
| ozamiatin | hoonetorg: you can also ping rohanion about deployment questions | 17:21 |
| hoonetorg | is it possible to switch an existing test cluster from rabbitmq over to zmq by changing the settings in config file and restart the daemons? | 17:24 |
| hoonetorg | it's not all-in-one. does it mean i need a redis server? | 17:24 |
| ozamiatin | yes, you need also to deploy redis server and specify it's address in configs | 17:25 |
| ozamiatin | you also need to run oslo-messaging-zmq-proxy on at least 3 nodes (for just testing 1 node may be enough) | 17:26 |
| ozamiatin | and restart daemons after that | 17:26 |
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| hoonetorg | ozamiatin: | 17:28 |
| hoonetorg | for high availibilty 3 oslo-messaging-zmq-proxies? | 17:29 |
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| hoonetorg | and for HA also redis should be clustered (sentinel maybe) to have no SPOF? | 17:30 |
| ozamiatin | hoonetorg: yes, redis HA is done with sentinel | 17:31 |
| ozamiatin | unfortunately I didn't put it to deployment guide yet | 17:31 |
| ozamiatin | there is 'sentinel_hosts' option in [matchmaker_redis] you can specify a list of redis hosts there | 17:32 |
| hoonetorg | cool, now i could imagine the path | 17:33 |
| hoonetorg | will report here, when questions occur or setup is ready :) | 17:34 |
| ozamiatin | hoonetorg: ok ) | 17:34 |
| Rockyg | harlowja, you around? I need some info from you for the roadmap | 17:35 |
| hoonetorg | ozamiatin: my test cluster is on centos 7.2 and centos/rdo packages. is there everything compiled in which is required | 17:36 |
| ozamiatin | hoonetorg: not sure about that, i'm testing on ubuntu :) | 17:37 |
| harlowja | Rockyg whats up | 17:37 |
| hoonetorg | will see :) | 17:37 |
| Rockyg | Hey! harlowja I promised some prodwg folks I'd get a few lines on what oslo did and plans to do for m,n,o | 17:41 |
| Rockyg | Can I give you the link to the template? | 17:41 |
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| harlowja | sure | 17:41 |
| harlowja | Rockyg when is that due? | 17:42 |
| Rockyg | https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_yCSDGnhIbzZmxoa1NkUVpMZ3M/view | 17:42 |
| Rockyg | harlowja, hahahahah. Today. But, it's really all stuff mostly known. like oslo.config improvements, reno, etc for mitaka. Then already planned improvements for the new | 17:43 |
| harlowja | so we have a etherpad of mitaka work | 17:44 |
| harlowja | but i can't seem to find it, dims do u have a link to that | 17:44 |
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| Rockyg | Great. so, I've gotta run to a dentist appt and will be back on line after. OK if I ping you both then (around 1900utc)? | 17:45 |
| dims | harlowja : what's up? | 17:45 |
| harlowja | dims there was an etherpad with mitaka 'oslo' overview kind of stuff, do u remember where that is at | 17:45 |
| Rockyg | otherwise email me the link if you've got my email. or rockyg yat gmail.... | 17:45 |
| dims | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-oslo-achievements | 17:46 |
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| Rockyg | excellent. Got that. Will use and ask any more questions later. | 17:47 |
| harlowja | thx dims | 17:47 |
| Rockyg | ttfn | 17:47 |
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| ski2 | hey dhellmann, based on spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295543 which is pretty close to being complete, i've proposed these changes to oslo.config https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~brian-stajkowski | 18:02 |
| ski2 | dhellmann: wondering our next steps, i've assigned them to myself for implementation | 18:02 |
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| lifeless | harlowja: wicked cool | 19:43 |
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| hoonetorg | ozamiatin: can i now due to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167308/1 use a VIP and haproxy for rabbitmq in mitaka? | 21:08 |
| patchbot | hoonetorg: patch 167308 - oslo.messaging (stable/kilo) - rabbit: heartbeat implementation (MERGED) | 21:08 |
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| hoonetorg | is it backported to kilo? | 21:09 |
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| hoonetorg | */kilo/liberty k-l-m | 21:40 |
| hoonetorg | this patch is already old, seems i missed something | 21:41 |
| hoonetorg | kernel seems to be patched in el7.2 too | 21:41 |
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| hoonetorg | and haproxy in el7.2 also supports TCP_USER_TIMEOUT/tpc_ut | 21:42 |
| hoonetorg | afair this were all things which prevented using haproxy and a vip for rabbitmq | 21:42 |
| hoonetorg | but i see nowhere in the docs that it's recommended to use a vip for rabbitmq rather than specifying all hosts | 21:43 |
| dims | http://docs.openstack.org/ha-guide/controller-ha-rabbitmq.html has language that we favor specifying all the hosts hoonetorg | 21:45 |
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| hoonetorg | dims: heartbeat_timeout_threshold still considered experimental in mitaka | 21:51 |
| hoonetorg | seems there is still a reason for specifying hosts | 21:51 |
| hoonetorg | *specifying all hosts | 21:52 |
| hoonetorg | dims: thx | 21:52 |
| dims | hoonetorg : this one? (http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.messaging/tree/oslo_messaging/_drivers/impl_rabbit.py#n174) - we should remove the EXPERIMENTAL tag, somehow missed that | 21:53 |
| hoonetorg | dims: maybe, if it's working correctly now? | 21:58 |
| hoonetorg | ah found it: | 21:59 |
| hoonetorg | http://john.eckersberg.com/improving-ha-failures-with-tcp-timeouts.html | 21:59 |
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| hoonetorg | if all things described here are fixed, openstack->vip->haproxy->rabbitmq-nodes !should! work | 22:00 |
| hoonetorg | escpecially the failover | 22:00 |
| hoonetorg | of a vip | 22:00 |
| hoonetorg | maybe there is still another issue, maybe it's fine | 22:01 |
| hoonetorg | i don't know | 22:01 |
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| hoonetorg | on el7.2 kernel and haproxy is fixed, openstack since ?kilo? contains the patch with heartbeat | 22:02 |
| hoonetorg | dims: maybe i'll try and report | 22:03 |
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| nikhil | who do I talk to regarding a oslo.sphinx/sphinx related bug in glance store? https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance-store/+bug/1569062 | 22:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1569062 in glance_store "tox -e releasenotes command fails" [Medium,Confirmed] | 22:12 |
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| rockyg | ping dims harlowja | 22:38 |
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| rockyg | lifeless, you around? | 22:47 |
| vilobhmm11 | harlowja : https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/#day=2016-04-26&event_types=8 | 22:48 |
| rockyg | rbradfor, you still on by any chance? | 22:50 |
| lifeless | rockyg: aye | 22:52 |
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| rockyg | Hey, lifeless ! I'm trying to put together a slide on Oslo for the roadmap session. I've got some stuff, and I know I'll have to vet it through harlowja, but since it's *real* quiet today, I was kinda hoping I might get some help from others that have a cllue? | 22:56 |
| rockyg | That's you. | 22:56 |
| harlowja | rockyg hey | 22:56 |
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| harlowja | rockyg hey i put https://gist.github.com/harlowja/57778b06b32b1dc61b40f601ff5bde52 up as well | 22:57 |
| harlowja | with some ideas | 22:57 |
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| rockyg | oh, cool. got two! So, the secon slide: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1IUckeDW2b-EmhgqQGsfXFHXGEL_-cmgFezjyObdYkg8/edit#slide=id.g110215792f_3_5 | 22:57 |
| harlowja | access requested :-P | 22:57 |
| lifeless | rockyg: :) | 22:58 |
| rockyg | I pulled contri numbers off stackalytics. Used committer counts. Pulled Mitaka and Newton stuff off the etherpad. But, for thegeneral summit (non-developer), you might want to highlight something else | 22:58 |
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| lifeless | rockyg: access is locked on thar deck | 22:59 |
| rockyg | https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1IUckeDW2b-EmhgqQGsfXFHXGEL_-cmgFezjyObdYkg8/edit?usp=sharing | 22:59 |
| rockyg | They changed the share interface on me. Grumble. So it took longer. | 23:00 |
| harlowja | rockyg feel free to take any from that gist | 23:01 |
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| harlowja | octa stuff i'm not sure about :) | 23:01 |
| rockyg | Yeah. Just more improvements. Any new libraries on the horizon? Will incubator go away then? | 23:02 |
| rockyg | How's that? | 23:04 |
| lifeless | privsep isn't a rootwrap alternative | 23:04 |
| lifeless | its a replacement | 23:04 |
| lifeless | or successor | 23:04 |
| lifeless | (fundamentally different programming model, may still need rootwrap for some things, but we're trying to move everything to privsep) | 23:04 |
| rockyg | I knew it was supposed to replace, but wasn't sure about the political correctness of being that blunt | 23:05 |
| lifeless | I'd rather deal with a bunch of folk worried about details, than the apathy if folk don't realise the direction | 23:06 |
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| rockyg | Yup. So, does the slide look ok for the general public? If so, I'm declaring it done ;-) | 23:10 |
| lifeless | the Mutable configuration options now changeable line is a bit opaque | 23:12 |
| lifeless | are you referring to runtime reconfiguration? | 23:12 |
| rockyg | yeah | 23:13 |
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| harlowja | rockyg new libraries, maybe 1 or 2, but nothing just yet i think | 23:13 |
| rockyg | Yeah. always more libraries. On the mutable, I can leave the dynamically, or say runtime reconfigurable | 23:15 |
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| rockyg | I think I like the second | 23:17 |
| rockyg | So, I changed it. | 23:17 |
| harlowja | cool | 23:17 |
| rockyg | Close enough for jazz? | 23:18 |
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| harlowja | seems ok to me | 23:23 |
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| rockyg | Cool. I'm adding some talking points at the bottom, that are taken from the etherpad. Mom and apple pie. | 23:27 |
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| rockyg | Thanks, guys! | 23:34 |
| harlowja | :) | 23:34 |
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| nikhil | dims: thanks for the quick fix on the formatting error for glance store! guess we need it for master too? | 23:51 |
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