Wednesday, 2016-03-30

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guslifeless/cores: Ping again for core reviews on (privsep) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295083/03:30
patchbotgus: patch 295083 - oslo.privsep - Switch to msgpack for serialization03:30
gus(thanks, don't want to nag but lack a better process)03:30
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openstackgerritKomei Shimamura proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Update kafka-python version  https://review.openstack.org/29799403:59
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lifelessgus: ack, thanks04:09
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openstackgerritKomei Shimamura proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Update kafka-python version  https://review.openstack.org/29799404:23
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openstackgerritJuan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Make transport_url config option secret  https://review.openstack.org/29914006:09
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lifelessgus: done06:26
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openstackgerritDinesh Bhor proposed openstack/oslo.db: Raise DbMigrationError for invalid version  https://review.openstack.org/29917007:15
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openstackgerritDmitriy Ukhlov proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Move server related logic from dispatchers  https://review.openstack.org/29798808:06
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openstackgerritDmitriy Ukhlov proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Move server related logic from dispatchers  https://review.openstack.org/29798809:15
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dims_go flaper87 !10:47
dims_oops go jd__ !10:48
dims_well, go flaper was delayed! :)10:48
jd__lol10:49
jd__go us!10:49
jd__:)10:49
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dims_indeed jd__ :)10:57
dims_jd__ : for me, it mainly shows that we care and i want to see how many of us care enough :)11:00
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openstackgerritDmitriy Ukhlov proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Move server related logic from dispatchers  https://review.openstack.org/29798811:07
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gate on project-config is currently broken due to IRC tests. The problem has been detected and we are working to fix the issue as soon as possible.11:14
jd__therve: I'll fix your pbr patch11:17
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Fix wsgiref script use with oslo.config  https://review.openstack.org/29606111:28
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thervejd__, Thanks11:29
jd__dims_: yeah I think it's cool we have a few folks from Oslo :)11:29
dims_jd__ ++11:33
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openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: base: don't compare list of changed fields during equality  https://review.openstack.org/29931411:34
openstackgerritDaniel Berrange proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: base: ensure list of changes is sorted for stability  https://review.openstack.org/29931511:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.utils: Add excutils.exception_filter  https://review.openstack.org/29893514:09
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openstackgerritGevorg Davoian proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Replace expriration_time by timer  https://review.openstack.org/29866915:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: Move server related logic from dispatchers  https://review.openstack.org/29798815:36
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harlowjajd__ u and cdent got my vote17:13
harlowjai'll run next time i think, got enough on my plate right now :)17:13
harlowjaafter u guys get in and save us all17:13
harlowjalol17:13
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harlowjadims_ u running to right?17:17
harlowjais all of oslo-core running?17:17
harlowjalol17:18
dims_haha17:18
harlowjawell u all got my vote :-P17:18
dims_harlowja : this is a severe test for you :)17:18
* harlowja lives dangerously17:19
harlowjalol17:19
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harlowjadims_ i was talking with vilobh last night about the wonderful cp meeting yesterday, ha17:23
harlowjawhich was ummm interesting17:23
harlowjai guess the feeling is that oslo wants this library to evolve outside of it before perhaps moving it to oslo (if that would help)17:23
dims_harlowja : given it's history, it was not bad i can tell you17:23
harlowjadims_ agreed17:24
harlowjanot bad at all17:24
dims_harlowja : let's make sure it has some legs, if we take it on too early it's hard to shake it off later17:24
harlowjaits come a long way ;)17:24
harlowjaya, agreed17:24
dims_especially want to see folks from various teams pour sweat and blood in it :)17:25
harlowjajust vilobh was concerned that the side-effects of the not-oslo might also make it die a early death17:25
harlowjachicken-egg situation17:25
harlowjabut yes, i also want to 'see folks from various teams pour sweat and blood in it'17:25
harlowjaaka the lack of said blood is the defintion of the cp problem17:25
harlowja*imho17:25
dims_right17:26
harlowjawhich is why jd__ and cdent and the rest of oslo-core running for TC will fix (obviuosly)17:26
harlowja:)17:26
dims_enough people feel the pain then it will happen17:26
harlowjaya, and u sacrifice a few lambs17:26
harlowjaand pray to openstack god17:26
dims_:)17:26
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harlowjadhellmann an octiva guy was thinking/hoping for a taskflow release for newton, just wanting to confirm that not-yet is the right answer (afaik it is), only critical bugs...18:04
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dims_harlowja : definitely not before Apr 8th18:24
harlowjathx18:24
dims_harlowja : Release week (Apr 4-8)18:25
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harlowja:)18:28
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jd__harlowja: sad you don't run this time :(19:45
jd__harlowja: which lib were you talking about>19:45
jd__?19:45
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harlowjajd__  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284454/20:14
patchbotharlowja: patch 284454 - openstack-specs - Delimiter - Cross Project Quota Enforcement and Ma...20:14
harlowjapotential lib20:14
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jd__harlowja: ok20:14
jd__I'm not moving my new work under Oslo nowadays because of global-req crap anywya20:15
harlowja:-P20:15
harlowjajd__  http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cross_project/2016/cross_project.2016-03-29-21.02.log.html#l-21720:16
dims_jd__ : where are you doing your new work?20:17
harlowjaJdOslo20:17
harlowjalol20:17
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jd__dims_: GitHub20:21
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dims_jd__ : under an org or just by yourself?20:21
jd__dims_: not that I do a lot of new work20:21
jd__dims_: no so far just by myself20:21
jd__but the way the lib are managed/released is a show stopper now for me20:22
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jd__at least for the thing I am highly invested in :)20:22
dims_jd__ : you can start a new library, NOT subscribe to g-r and be unmanaged as well.20:22
jd__dims_: you think I could do that in Oslo without being force upon?20:23
jd__that would be great but it was not my feeling in general20:23
dims_jd__ : i don't think we have a policy that mandates all of those for Oslo20:23
jd__cool cool20:23
dims_as long as someone is there to do it20:23
jd__I should try that at some point20:23
jd__harlowja: good thing to say to vilob I guess :) ^^^^20:24
dims_only reason for standardization is so fewer people take care of stuff if needed20:24
* jd__ nods20:24
dims_jd__ : for the vilobhmm11 question that's a preference from me that it be started outside. it's a large piece of work and i'd like to see a lot of people from different projects do it. If it gets started here in Oslo then there's an expectation that the "oslo team" would do all the hard lifting which is not feasible20:26
dims_i'd really want to see a PoC with a sizeable number of people20:27
jd__I agree20:31
jd__I tend to think people wants for for some OpenStack-corporate-way-of-thinking everywhere where it should not20:31
jd__I'm for the bazaar20:31
jd__so let them build whatever they need together20:31
jd__:)20:31
dims_right20:31
harlowjaagreed, hopefully that works out20:32
vilobhmm11dims_ : agree…but PoC without a plan of adoption by any project is not motivating enough for people working on it imho…since "Delimiter" the cross project quota is still in its design phase..we can talk more about adoption at the summit..till summit i will get the spec in an approvable state if that sounds ok…but for Poc would prefer some  project ready to adopt it and then dive in20:32
harlowjathe CP involvement problem20:33
harlowjanP complete20:33
harlowjalol20:33
dims_vilobhmm11 : which is the project most likely to adopt given what you know?20:33
dims_getting it under oslo does not guarantee adoption (see taskflow)20:34
harlowjawhattttt20:34
harlowjalol20:34
harlowja:)20:34
harlowjait takes time no matter, agreed20:34
dims_harlowja : being honest20:34
harlowja;)20:34
harlowjanah, its true20:34
harlowjaadoption is hard20:34
dims_right20:34
vilobhmm11dims_ : intially in one of the cp meeting dated 02/11 or o2/10 glance had shown interest to try it out (or be early adopter)20:34
dims_ack. who specifically?20:35
vilobhmm11since they were looking for invested in quota20:35
vilobhmm11dims_ : let me dig through the logs and get back to you20:35
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vilobhmm11dims_, jd__, harlowja : http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2016/crossproject.2016-02-09-21.01.log.html20:37
harlowjataskflow will adopt quota20:37
harlowjalol20:37
harlowjathx vilobhmm11 looking through20:38
vilobhmm11harlowja : np20:38
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vilobhmm11harlowja, dims_ : Just to conclude; so IMHO the best effort at this moment would be to get the spec in the best possible state (considering and addressing feedback from interested people) till the summit and if some project is willing to adopt it proceed with the POC.20:43
vilobhmm11please suggest if you think otherwise20:43
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harlowjai think that'd be ok vilobh22:01
harlowjaif u get time to do some code, that'd help also i think22:01
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harlowjavilobhmm11 if u didn't get earlier messages i think ya, getting the spec as far as u can, and if u can POC some code that's cool to23:01
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vilobhmm11harlowja :  I missed the earlier messages; sorry was away23:02
harlowjanp23:02
vilobhmm11harlowja : sure will do23:02
vilobhmm11thanks harlowja, dims_ for keeping an eye on it and for your valueable feedback !23:03
harlowjanp23:03
harlowjait will be a fun-road-ahead23:03
harlowja*fun*23:03
harlowjalol23:03
vilobhmm11ha i guess so :)23:04
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harlowjanothing worth doing is ever easy though23:12
harlowjathat's life, ha23:12
vilobhmm11harlowja : second that !23:13
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openstackgerritAlberto Murillo proposed openstack/oslo.service: _sd_nofity() is called with a string as argument which then is send through a socket socket.sendall expect a byte-string as an argument, causing an exception on python3 Closes-Bug: #1564150  https://review.openstack.org/29967423:40
openstackbug 1564150 in oslo.service "systemd .service files fail to start openstack services running on python3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1564150 - Assigned to Alberto Murillo (powerbsd-o)23:40
openstackgerritAlberto Murillo proposed openstack/oslo.service: _sd_nofity() is called with a string as argument which then is send through a socket  https://review.openstack.org/29967423:42
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openstackgerritAlberto Murillo proposed openstack/oslo.service: Fix argument type for _sd_notify() on python3  https://review.openstack.org/29967423:50
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