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| gus | I gather I need to wait for a release of oslo.privsep before $other_project (os-brick) can test against it? In particular Depends-On seems to be doing nothing - it's still pulling the latest pypi release afaics. | 01:14 |
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| dims | gus : see the huge chat on -infra :) | 01:14 |
| gus | oh look at that ;) | 01:14 |
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| gus | dims: thanks. My other problem is that I need some revews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265695/ | 01:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Atom initiated suspension https://review.openstack.org/266626 | 01:29 |
| gus | (and more generally, a short list of people happy to be bugged for privsep +2 reviews) | 01:29 |
| dims | gus : ack, starred it, hope to get to it in the morning | 01:29 |
| gus | thanks. | 01:29 |
| dims | gus : me or harlowja or dhellmann or gcb are usually active | 01:30 |
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| fhermeni | hello | 12:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: (WIP) [zmq] Heartbeat implementation https://review.openstack.org/257346 | 12:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: (WIP) [zmq] Heartbeat implementation https://review.openstack.org/257346 | 12:49 |
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| amrith | dims, I added you to a review. 266528 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266528/1. Would you take a look at that and the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1511623. Thanks, goot do see you last evening. | 12:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1511623 in Trove "Why does it take so long for the prepare() message to make it from the task manager to the guest?" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Amrith (amrith) | 12:53 |
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| ozamiatin | dims: amqp gate became broken a bit later, so those patches got merged luckily :) | 13:51 |
| ozamiatin | dims: now amqp gate is broken | 13:51 |
| dims | ah :) | 13:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Split changelog on nulls instead of ( https://review.openstack.org/263748 | 14:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Explicitly add pika dependencies https://review.openstack.org/266556 | 14:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: fix .gitreview - bad merge from pika branch https://review.openstack.org/265932 | 14:53 |
| dims | ozamiatin : easy one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265932/ | 14:54 |
| ozamiatin | dims: +2 | 14:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Mescheryakov (dmitryme) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Kombu: make reply and fanout queues expire instead of auto-delete https://review.openstack.org/243845 | 15:14 |
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| dmitryme | jeckersb: hello, your change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243845/ was stuck for a while, so I took liberty in changing it. Though different it should cover both bug you were concerned with as well as another bug I am interested in. | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | ting wang proposed openstack/oslo.config: Replace deprecated library function os.popen() with subprocess https://review.openstack.org/266984 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | ting wang proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Replace deprecated library function os.popen() with subprocess https://review.openstack.org/266985 | 15:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | ting wang proposed openstack/taskflow: Replace deprecated library function os.popen() with subprocess https://review.openstack.org/266988 | 15:39 |
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| jeckersb | dmitryme: oh awesome, i've been meaning to go back and look at that. thanks for fixing it up, i'll go give it a review. | 16:09 |
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| ozamiatin | dims, gcb: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265912/ | 16:18 |
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| dtardivel | Hello, I have a question about messaging notification. Can we set a TTL for a dedicated notification message ? If not, is it a feature on which you already debated in the past, or could we propose to you a blueprint ? | 16:27 |
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| dmitryme | jeckersb: yes, I wanted to hear your opinion on that | 16:35 |
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| mhickey | Hey. Anyone up for +2 reviews for: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263800/ ? | 16:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/oslo.db: Don't log non-db error in retry wrapper https://review.openstack.org/265950 | 16:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/oslo.db: Don't log non-db error in retry wrapper https://review.openstack.org/265950 | 17:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: Explicitly add pika dependencies https://review.openstack.org/266556 | 17:10 |
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| mriedem | haypo: question on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264652/ | 17:16 |
| mriedem | what is the value in this for py3? | 17:16 |
| mriedem | sdague: was asking in -nova | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Some additional engine logging https://review.openstack.org/258746 | 17:17 |
| haypo | mriedem: i don't see xrange() in the original code. so the change seems useless | 17:18 |
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| harlowja_at_home | haypo, is FATpython done? | 17:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | :) | 17:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | haypo will single-handly make python-super-duper again | 17:19 |
| haypo | harlowja_at_home: no | 17:19 |
| haypo | mriedem: oh, wait | 17:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | (next up LLVM integration, lol) | 17:19 |
| haypo | mriedem: i think that i already worked on this file. the problem is in test_common.py where items[:3] is used | 17:20 |
| haypo | mriedem: the code expects a list, whereas range(n)[:4] creates a new range object in python 3 | 17:20 |
| haypo | harlowja_at_home: what do you mean by python-super-duper? | 17:22 |
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| haypo | harlowja_at_home: Numba & Pyston already integrate LLVM with Python | 17:22 |
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| haypo | harlowja_at_home: (there was also Unladen Swallow before) | 17:22 |
| harlowja_at_home | harlowja, super-duper == make it awesome | 17:25 |
| haypo | haypo: ok | 17:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | ah, didn't know numba and pyston were doing that (knew about unladen swallow doing it) | 17:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | i'll have to look into those | 17:26 |
| haypo | harlowja_at_home: there are at least 4 actively developed JIT compilers for Python: PyPy, Numba, Pyston and Pyjion -- https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0510/#why-not-a-jit-compiler | 17:26 |
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| harlowja_at_home | lol | 17:28 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool, will read | 17:28 |
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| harlowja_at_home | good ole PyPy | 17:28 |
| harlowja_at_home | pypy was started before LLVM existed right | 17:29 |
| harlowja_at_home | LLVM (if its mature enough to do JIT right) always seemed like a good iear | 17:29 |
| harlowja_at_home | *idea | 17:29 |
| harlowja_at_home | anyways haypo let me know if u have any tiny work for FATpython ; i could try to help out a little | 17:31 |
| harlowja_at_home | *seems interesting | 17:31 |
| harlowja_at_home | the guard stuff seems like it will help enable more things later | 17:32 |
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| haypo | harlowja_at_home: "let me know if u have any tiny work for FATpython" cool. right now i don't know, i have to think about that | 17:35 |
| harlowja_at_home | np | 17:35 |
| haypo | harlowja_at_home: i'm making large changes for my work on PEPs, because i got a lot of feedback | 17:36 |
| harlowja_at_home | kk | 17:36 |
| haypo | harlowja_at_home: but interesting stuff is to implement new optimizations in astoptimzer, this part is outside the python stdlib and so it's not going to be modified by PEPs | 17:36 |
| haypo | harlowja_at_home: it's pure Python, code matching AST nodes and replacing with other AST nodes... in short | 17:37 |
| harlowja_at_home | right | 17:37 |
| haypo | harlowja_at_home: https://hg.python.org/sandbox/fatpython/file/tip/Lib/astoptimizer/const_fold.py | 17:37 |
| harlowja_at_home | cools | 17:37 |
| haypo | harlowja_at_home: https://hg.python.org/sandbox/fatpython/file/tip/Lib/astoptimizer/const_propagate.py | 17:37 |
| haypo | harlowja_at_home: ^^ examples | 17:37 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool, good stuff | 17:38 |
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| haypo | harlowja_at_home: the tricky part is to emit "correct code": the optimizer must not change the behviour of the code | 17:38 |
| harlowja_at_home | how do u verify these optimizations don't break things :) | 17:38 |
| haypo | harlowja_at_home: i'm running the full python test suite | 17:38 |
| harlowja_at_home | kk | 17:38 |
| haypo | harlowja_at_home: which contains crazy corner cases. i ensure that *all* tests pass | 17:38 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool | 17:38 |
| haypo | i should explain that somewhere | 17:38 |
| haypo | harlowja_at_home: i have to go. bye ;) | 17:39 |
| harlowja_at_home | lata | 17:39 |
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| ashishjain | hello I am facing following problem when trying to use oslo-messaging | 17:42 |
| ashishjain | ImportError: No module named netifaces | 17:43 |
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| fhermeni | hi there | 19:59 |
| harlowja | hi there! | 20:00 |
| harlowja | hi hi | 20:00 |
| harlowja | fhermeni did u talk to the watcher folks, how'd that go? | 20:00 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: I did a bit. I listened first to try to understand | 20:00 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: :D | 20:00 |
| harlowja | :) | 20:00 |
| harlowja | that's always good thing to do :) | 20:00 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: so they are aware of our spec | 20:01 |
| harlowja | cools | 20:01 |
| harlowja | vilobhmm11 ^ | 20:01 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: this review mentionned they want to avoid to redefine a spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260552/ | 20:01 |
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| harlowja | interseting | 20:02 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: the meeting log http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/watcher/2016/watcher.2016-01-13-14.00.log.html | 20:03 |
| harlowja | cool, reaidng | 20:04 |
| harlowja | *reading | 20:04 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: so currently they seem they are still relying on nova and don’t support any constraints. So it might be too early to go deep into the spec with them. Just following the discussions | 20:04 |
| harlowja | ya, that's where the hard part becomes | 20:04 |
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| harlowja | *the integration piece | 20:05 |
| vilobhmm11 | can't wait that long…since it might be too long IMHO | 20:05 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: the comment of chris dent inside our spec is correct about the need to discuss with nova & co | 20:05 |
| harlowja | ah, that's a new comment, reading | 20:05 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: I will augment the Interoperability section to discuss about Heat | 20:08 |
| harlowja | fhermeni ya, so its interesting to try to reason about the various efforts going on | 20:08 |
| harlowja | there seems to be alot of ground-up efforts trying to solve this | 20:09 |
| harlowja | it'd be nice if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210549/ could the thing that unifies all those efforts | 20:09 |
| harlowja | *could be the thing | 20:09 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: to me, we are a frontend of nova & others, but a back-end for the infrastructure aspects of Heat | 20:09 |
| harlowja | cause u have like some pieces in nova-specs happening, some pieces in watcher, some pieces who knows where (the nova scheduler refactor stuffs) and probably other things happening | 20:10 |
| harlowja | heat though is a front-end on nova & others, lol | 20:10 |
| harlowja | i see a cycle here :-P | 20:10 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: heat is _currently_ a front-end for nova & others. But with the abstraction layer provided by the spec, we might end in the middle to decouple heat from the project-specific schedulers | 20:12 |
| harlowja | possibly | 20:12 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: the point is by the end, you should be able to keep heat, but with watcher for example as a backend for every infrastructure aspects | 20:12 |
| harlowja | sounds nice | 20:13 |
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| harlowja | fhermeni vilobhmm11 and i just talking, trying to wrap head around how our spec and the watcher stuff, and this whole bigger picture meshes together | 20:19 |
| harlowja | especially in a way that could maybe actually work out :-P | 20:20 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: \o/ | 20:20 |
| harlowja | its a tough one, lol | 20:20 |
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| harlowja | many things happening in somewhat non-coordinated manner (or that's what i feel) | 20:20 |
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| fhermeni | I don’t get the comment of Chris Dent for line 130 however :D | 20:21 |
| harlowja | nova trying to do more resources than just compute? | 20:22 |
| harlowja | with resource classes ? | 20:22 |
| harlowja | which seems odd knowing that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256440/ might happen (which reduces, not increases the scope of nova) | 20:22 |
| vilobhmm11 | fhermeni : what part exactly you didn't get may be i can help here ? | 20:22 |
| harlowja | maybe i should go all zen, and go up to the mountains and come back down from the mountains with a plan, lol | 20:23 |
| fhermeni | vilobhmm11: yes resource class, and its vision about associating global state with the spec against its message driven approach | 20:24 |
| vilobhmm11 | its just saying that having a global view is good but global view also have problems (as it has push /p ull model) and evernt/message driven thing is the way to go | 20:24 |
| vilobhmm11 | fhermeni : ^^ | 20:24 |
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| fhermeni | a tendency for very-large scale scheduling is to move to decentralised approaches. Usually a hierarchical one. Some extremists moving to a P2P model | 20:25 |
| fhermeni | but the notion of global spec stays to maintain a view that provide to the scheduler the global picture of the user exceptations rather than a twisted one | 20:26 |
| harlowja | makes me think of the tendency of developers to try to design perfect solutions, fully distributed, when well in reality u don't quite need to go there (yet) | 20:27 |
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| harlowja | hard to really predict such a long-term | 20:28 |
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| fhermeni | harlowja: so to conclude, I will update the interoperability section to better describe the puzzle and how the existing materiel fit. However, it is still ok to contact nova & co to check if the spec is suitable to express their features | 20:36 |
| harlowja | sounds good to me :) | 20:36 |
| harlowja | will be interesting to see how this works out | 20:36 |
| fhermeni | harlowja: like might be worthy or « too big, won’t work » ? | 20:38 |
| harlowja | never know :) | 20:39 |
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| harlowja | i'm gonna say it will work out, cause it will :-P | 20:39 |
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| fhermeni | harlowja: do you have in mind the name of the different project scheduler. I am always saying « nova & co » but people will start to understand I am faking to knowledge :D | 20:42 |
| harlowja | hmmm, dansmith is there a name for it? | 20:43 |
| harlowja | or is it just called nova-scheduler-extraction-stuffs | 20:43 |
| harlowja | *or something like ^ | 20:43 |
| harlowja | *not gantt | 20:44 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:44 |
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| dansmith | harlowja: yeah, it's called nevergunnhappen-aas | 20:44 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:44 |
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| harlowja | fhermeni dansmith works in nova and does a lot of stuff there (fyi) | 20:45 |
| harlowja | aka 'nova & co' | 20:45 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:45 |
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| mriedem | http://logstash.openstack.org/#dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=message%3A%5C%22actual%20%20%20%20%3D%20'INSERT%20INTO%20resource_entity%20(id%2C%20foo_id)%20VALUES%20(%25s%2C%20%25s)'%5C%22%20AND%20tags%3A%5C%22console%5C%22%20AND%20project%3A%5C%22openstack%2Foslo.db%5C%22&from=7d | 21:41 |
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