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| openstackgerrit | sonu proposed openstack/oslo.privsep: Remove python 2.6 and tox.ini cleanup https://review.openstack.org/255750 | 09:04 |
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| jd__ | remind me, why did we start oslo again? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253517/5/glance/common/timeutils.py | 09:46 |
| jd__ | cc flaper87 | 09:48 |
| jd__ | cc dims_ | 09:48 |
| jd__ | you guys might need to talk. | 09:48 |
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| mhickey | Hey. When you install oslo.config, Does anybody know if this should also add oslo-config-generator python script? I have a dependency in a functional test where I added the generator. | 10:18 |
| dims_ | jd__ : i hear you :) | 10:18 |
| jd__ | dims_: :) | 10:19 |
| dims_ | jd__ i have been asking the same question for some time now. see my email on projects lagging behind on deprecated stuff | 10:19 |
| jd__ | yeah I think it's an orthogonal issue | 10:20 |
| dims_ | jd__ : i wrote 3 different drafts of emails this morning and deleted them all as too harsh | 10:20 |
| jd__ | there's 1. not seeing deprecation 2. copying code rather than doing the right fixes | 10:20 |
| jd__ | dims_: lol | 10:20 |
| jd__ | I feel you bro | 10:20 |
| dims_ | :) in another 3 years there will be no oslo libs haha | 10:21 |
| mhickey | dims_: Do you ever sleep?! :) | 10:21 |
| dims_ | mhickey : i travelling this week, hence the odd hours. (Russia/Ukraine) | 10:22 |
| dims_ | s/i/i am/ | 10:22 |
| jd__ | dims_: I wish we would have 0 oslo lib – not because people copy/paste the code again, but because we manage to put code in existing libs :) | 10:22 |
| jd__ | or stdlib or whatever | 10:23 |
| mhickey | dims_: deadly; welcome this sidish of the world | 10:23 |
| jd__ | with Python 3.7! | 10:23 |
| dims_ | jd__ : ++ | 10:23 |
| dims_ | mhickey : where abouts are you? | 10:23 |
| mhickey | dims_:Ireland | 10:23 |
| dims_ | ah cool. | 10:23 |
| mhickey | dims_ nah, actually very wet at the moment! :) | 10:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | sonu proposed openstack/oslo.privsep: Removes MANIFEST.in as it is not needed explicitely by PBR https://review.openstack.org/255781 | 10:26 |
| mhickey | dims_: Do you have time for a question? | 10:26 |
| dims_ | mhickey : just ask, response may be slow | 10:27 |
| mhickey | dims_: Thats ok. I have tried installing oslo.config but it does not seem to provide the oslo-config-generator python script. Any ideas whwew I am going wrong? | 10:29 |
| dims_ | mhickey : "pip freeze" shows oslo.config version? | 10:30 |
| dims_ | mhickey : should see it under ./.tox/py27/bin/oslo-config-generator in a tox environment | 10:31 |
| mhickey | dims_: ok, let me check.. | 10:31 |
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| mhickey | dims_: oslo.config==3.0.0 | 10:33 |
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| mhickey | dims_: the LBaaS func config script is looking for it as follows "/usr/local/bin/oslo-config-generator" | 10:36 |
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| dims_ | mhickey : i bet you are installing in a tox environment and the script is looking as though it was pip installed directly | 10:37 |
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| mhickey | dims_ not sure; trying to work it out | 10:40 |
| dims_ | are you running pip freeze in a tox environment? | 10:40 |
| jokke_ | jd__: if those changed wouldn't have broken our API it would have been fine ... just looks like what oslo is deprecating is the cleanest way for us to do it ... I doubt oslo will take them back :P | 10:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] PUB-SUB pipeline https://review.openstack.org/249326 | 10:41 |
| mhickey | dims_: no; tox environment currently not under the project; i may have removed it when doing tests for this. | 10:42 |
| dims_ | mhickey : run "pip install --force oslo-config===3.0.0" again | 10:42 |
| dims_ | mhickey then you should see it in /usr/local/bin/ | 10:43 |
| mhickey | dims_: ok, I was using the ubuntu installer instead: sudo apt-get install oslo.config | 10:44 |
| mhickey | dims_: pip install error: No matching distribution found for oslo-config===3.0.0 | 10:46 |
| gcb | dims, jd__, do you think we should clean more obsolete things after cleaning up oslo-incubator code? | 10:49 |
| gcb | like file update.py , MAINTAINERS in oslo-incubator, or just keep them there | 10:51 |
| dims_ | gcb : we can cleanup | 10:52 |
| dims_ | mhickey : sorry oslo.config | 10:53 |
| dims_ | s/-/./ | 10:53 |
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| gcb | dim, will do that later :-) | 10:56 |
| dims_ | thanks gcb | 10:58 |
| gcb | np, have a nice time in Russia/Ukraine :-) | 11:02 |
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| mhickey | dims_: sorry was away; ah, I should have seen the '-'. trying it now | 11:08 |
| mhickey | dims_: ok, works from cli. however the install function being used in the config script thinks oslo.config is already there and uptodate. | 11:13 |
| mhickey | dims_: when I do a pip freeze it is not there. maybe it is using a different repository. | 11:14 |
| mhickey | dims_: here we go, it is checking for "python-oslo.config is already the newest version." | 11:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: creates a dispatcher abstraction https://review.openstack.org/251736 | 11:15 |
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| lxsli | morning | 11:23 |
| lxsli | can anyone discuss https://review.openstack.org/253125 with me please? | 11:24 |
| lxsli | harlowja is suggesting I add another (mutable) object that namespace + parser + ConfigOpts can all sit on top of | 11:24 |
| mhickey | dims_:I am using install_package in the scripts | 11:24 |
| lxsli | my question is... why do we need so many stacked things? Is there any design doc please? | 11:25 |
| lxsli | it definitely seems weird to me that a parser holds values instead of just producing them but I'm a bit loathe to launch into a full rewrite! | 11:26 |
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| mhickey | dims_: thanks for the help. it was that I was using install_package instead of pip | 11:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/oslo-cookiecutter: Remove MANIFEST.in https://review.openstack.org/255701 | 12:43 |
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| dims_ | sdague : will adding grenade jobs to oslo.messaging be useful? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255782/ | 13:58 |
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| sdague | dims_: possibly | 14:10 |
| sdague | it might have caught this, though it is a race | 14:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Add UUID Validation https://review.openstack.org/250493 | 14:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Add UUID Validation https://review.openstack.org/250493 | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | dims_: oslo.messaging 3.1.0 is blocked in master, since it clearly breaks ironic in stable/liberty, i think we should be consistent with the block in liberty https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254919/ | 14:21 |
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| dukhlov | sileht: hello. Are you around? | 14:24 |
| dims_ | mriedem : ack switched it | 14:24 |
| sileht | dukhlov, yes | 14:24 |
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| dukhlov | sileht: I saw hot discussion about ack_before_process patch and have a few question | 14:25 |
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| sileht | dukhlov, I have planned to answer to this | 14:26 |
| dukhlov | sileht: You said that RPC works according to "at-most-once" model. Is it true only if we send message with retry=0? | 14:27 |
| sileht | dukhlov, yes, I would to remove this retry=... | 14:27 |
| sileht | dukhlov, that was used by ceilometer a while a go to allow it to switch to oslo.messaging, but now it doesn't use that anymore | 14:28 |
| dukhlov | but it is None by default, it means that whole service works with infinite retrying now | 14:30 |
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| dukhlov | and at-most-one doesnt work actually | 14:30 |
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| dukhlov | sileht, do you plan to remove retry and leave infinite retrying (in scope of timeout sure), or remove it and don't use retrying? | 14:32 |
| sileht | dukhlov, I would like if nobody use it | 14:32 |
| dukhlov | sileht, hm when I say remove retry I mean remove retry parameter from send method. | 14:35 |
| sileht | dukhlov, yes | 14:35 |
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| dukhlov | sileht, but after that what behavior we have? with retrying durin rpc_timeout, or without retrying at all? | 14:36 |
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| sileht | dukhlov, retring during rpc_timeout | 14:37 |
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| sileht | as before the retry parameter was introduced | 14:37 |
| dukhlov | so we will not use at-most-one? | 14:37 |
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| dukhlov | sileht ^^ | 14:38 |
| dukhlov | sileht: I think it would be more safe to use retry=0 by default, but if you know that your request is idempotent - enable reply explicitly | 14:41 |
| sileht | dukhlov, this is just not possible to change this. | 14:42 |
| sileht | dukhlov, this will break everybody | 14:42 |
| sileht | dukhlov, I have misreading | 14:43 |
| sileht | dukhlov, 0 is already the default | 14:43 |
| sileht | dukhlov, None means driver default and it's 0 for all drivers | 14:44 |
| sileht | (except zmq I think) | 14:44 |
| * sileht should get a nap | 14:45 | |
| sileht | default is -1 in drivers | 14:45 |
| sileht | so changing this will break application | 14:45 |
| dukhlov | sileht, hm, situation is still not clear to me, but probably I will better ask more tomorrow:) | 14:47 |
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| fhermeni | hi there | 14:49 |
| dukhlov | sileht: yes default is -1 and this means infinite retry and it means that we don't have at-most-one actually and if we change it it will break the world | 14:50 |
| dukhlov | fhermeni: hi | 14:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Re-Add oslo.middleware namespace for backward compat https://review.openstack.org/255952 | 16:00 |
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| jokke_ | Hello, anyone here who would understand the config generator code? | 16:18 |
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| jokke_ | looks like we're doing something wrong | 16:18 |
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| d0ugal | Is there something I can add to tox to have it check the config sample is up to date? | 16:25 |
| d0ugal | I think I seen it somewhere before, but I can't find it now | 16:25 |
| d0ugal | (in the process of adding oslo-config to a repo) | 16:25 |
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| amrith | dims_, yt? | 17:02 |
| amrith | had a question yesterday ~16:30 | 17:03 |
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| amrith | sorry, 1603 | 17:03 |
| amrith | any chance you could take a look | 17:03 |
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| fhermeni | hi | 17:25 |
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| fhermeni | harlowja: ping ? | 17:29 |
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| lxsli | damn, was just about to ping him too... | 17:42 |
| lxsli | dims dhellmann: either of you got a few mins please? | 17:42 |
| lxsli | to talk about oslo.config class design | 17:42 |
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| fhermeni | damn. Will be back later | 18:04 |
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| lifeless | lxsli: 'sup ? | 18:07 |
| dims | jd__ : gordc : please take a look for that grenade problem fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255952/ | 18:08 |
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| jdandrea | Is there a "Hello, world" style example of using oslo.service? It's not clear to me (from the developer docs) how to get started with it. Also teasing apart other OS projects to see if I can figure it out that way. | 20:49 |
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