Tuesday, 2015-11-24

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openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Use oslo_config new type PortOpt for port options  https://review.openstack.org/23839501:31
openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: ignore .eggs directory  https://review.openstack.org/24897301:39
gusApparently oslo.privsep needs to ~work on windows - first I heard that openstack supported something other than Linux :/01:49
gusI assume other oslo projects hit this too - how can I test my code against this other platform?01:50
harlowja_:-/01:51
* harlowja_ hasn't hit that, wonder what windows stuff is used where01:51
harlowja_gus rootwrap works on windows?01:51
harlowja_*if u know01:51
harlowja_seems odd to require oslo.privsep to if rootwrap doesn't01:52
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Add Warning when we cannot notify  https://review.openstack.org/24836302:08
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openstackgerritVilobh Meshram proposed openstack/tooz: Add Consul Driver  https://review.openstack.org/24536202:33
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Instead of a multiprocessing queue use sockets via asyncore (WIP)  https://review.openstack.org/24437603:13
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Drop python 2.6 support  https://review.openstack.org/24867503:17
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openstackgerritayoung proposed openstack/oslo.policy: Convert Exceptions to failures.  https://review.openstack.org/16590803:33
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gusharlowja_: rootwrap-the-idea should work fine on windows (I guess), although obviously the commands you can execute might be different (and perhaps no "sudo").03:47
gcbgus, interesting things , you mean powershell in windows ?03:51
gusgcb: presumably.03:51
gcbrunas /noprofile /user:Administrator cmd   #linke http://superuser.com/questions/42537/is-there-any-sudo-command-for-windows03:52
gusAll I know is that (apparently!) some people use nova/hyperv on windows - someone suggested it might be in a cygwin environment (so there's already a unix compat layer there)03:52
gusI'm using lots of unix features in oslo.privsep (separate processes, setuid, unix sockets, etc) and now Linux-only capabilities.03:53
gcbgus, nova/hyperv  use somethings like WMI python interface,  we can check how the guys did .03:54
gusI'm also wondering how I can test anything - since I'm not going to know if I have some hidden unix-assumption without actually trying it out.03:56
gcbmaybe  you need talk with  Hyper-V  virt driver maintainer from cloudbase . Let met find their nic name03:56
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gcb "Claudiu Belu"03:59
gcbhis nick name in IRC is  'claudiub'03:59
gcbMaybe he will give some good suggestions :-)03:59
gusLet's try an easier question - what predicate should I use to guard linux-specific or windows-specific code branches?04:00
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gus(escalated my questions to openstack-dev@)04:20
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gcbyes, we can get feedback from openstack-dev05:00
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo-specs: Fix broken document link in README.rst  https://review.openstack.org/24903006:36
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Instead of a multiprocessing queue use sockets via asyncore (WIP)  https://review.openstack.org/24437607:23
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Instead of a multiprocessing queue use sockets via asyncore (WIP)  https://review.openstack.org/24437608:43
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Move imageutils from oslo-incubator to oslo.utils  https://review.openstack.org/24910710:07
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dimsflaper87 : any idea why this is amqp1-f21 failing? (http://logs.openstack.org/56/248656/1/check/gate-oslo.messaging-dsvm-functional-amqp1-f21/e1f4b13/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz)11:10
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flaper87dims: looking11:12
flaper87dims: FWIW, kgiusti has a patch to move the f21 job to CentOS11:12
flaper87it's possible that it's failing because of an incompatibility w/ f2111:12
flaper87(hence the change to CentOS)11:12
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dimsflaper87 : ah i see it merged 2 hours ago (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248806/) let me try a recheck then. thanks!11:13
flaper87dims: np :)11:13
* flaper87 crosses his fingers11:14
dimspast rechecks had not helped in other reviews yesterday11:14
dims:)11:14
flaper87dims: btw, did you see qpidd is now gone?11:14
flaper87just want to make sure you're aware of that11:14
dimsy i saw the review float by, thanks for the heads up11:14
dimsflaper87 : may be worth a quick email to the -ops ML?11:15
flaper87dims: yeah, I'll be sending one out today11:17
dimsperfect thanks11:17
lxslidims: please would you +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246404/ again? I had a pep8 error11:21
dimslxsli ack getting this in now, it's been through churn already11:23
lxslidims: woohoo, thank you :D11:24
openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/oslo.config: Add hostname config type  https://review.openstack.org/23851711:30
openstackgerritOleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [zmq] Random failure with ZmqPortRangeExceededException  https://review.openstack.org/24914711:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/taskflow: Convert executor proxied engine options into their correct type  https://review.openstack.org/19579611:44
openstackgerritVladimir Eremin proposed openstack/oslo-specs: Pluggable CMDB for oslo.config  https://review.openstack.org/24311411:44
yottatsadims could you please look at https://review.openstack.org/24311411:45
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dimsyottatsa : does it have inputs from aevenchannyy? let's please ask him for a review11:49
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yottatsadims I'll ask him11:56
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openstackgerritAlexey Lebedev proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Provide missing parts of error messages  https://review.openstack.org/24916211:58
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.middleware: Drop python 2.6 support  https://review.openstack.org/24867511:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.serialization: msgpackutils: drop Python 2.6 support  https://review.openstack.org/24578312:07
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.config: Add 'mutable' param to Opt  https://review.openstack.org/24640412:30
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/oslo.config: Drop python 2.6 support  https://review.openstack.org/24918112:45
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openstackgerritTahio Avila proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Remove dependency on oslo_log  https://review.openstack.org/24919013:02
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/tooz: lock: allow locks to be manipulated solely on their name  https://review.openstack.org/24920013:18
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openstackgerritTahio Avila proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Remove dependency on oslo_log  https://review.openstack.org/24919013:37
* krotscheck peers at the new oslo_middleware version. 13:40
* krotscheck missed a policy discussion somewhere, didn't he.13:40
krotscheckI'm guessing the "dropping python 26 support" bit warranted the version upgrade?13:41
openstackgerritYulia Portnova proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: [WIP] Implement message compression  https://review.openstack.org/24921513:42
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ozamiatinSpamapS: hi, dims_ told you wanted to discuss something about zmq14:01
ozamiatinSpamapS: sorry I wasn't on IRC that time and didn't see your messages14:01
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openstackgerritPavel Kholkin proposed openstack/oslo.db: Added reader_allows_async decorator  https://review.openstack.org/24923514:19
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openstackgerritPavel Kholkin proposed openstack/oslo.db: Added reader_allows_async decorator  https://review.openstack.org/24923514:25
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/24837214:45
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openstackgerritPavel Kholkin proposed openstack/oslo.db: Added reader_allows_async decorator  https://review.openstack.org/24923514:56
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openstackgerritOleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: WIP: [zmq] PUB-SUB pipeline.  https://review.openstack.org/24932617:00
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.config: add reno for release notes  https://review.openstack.org/24932917:02
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dhellmanndims, harlowja_, jd__ , & other cores: I'd like some feedback on this reno patch before I propose it as an example for other libraries ^^17:03
mriedemdims: could use your ack on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247199/ - it's the thing to fix neutron notifications in stable/liberty with o.m 3.0 and that new alias to the messaging drivers17:04
dimsmriedem : done17:05
mriedemthanks17:05
mriedemoh thought you had stable power on reqs17:05
dimsmriedem : nope17:05
mriedemmtreinish: do you want to make sure https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247199/ is sane?17:06
dhellmannmriedem : +2a17:06
mriedemcool, thanks17:06
mriedemadam_g: ping me when https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247199/ syncs to neutron stable/liberty and we'll get it in17:07
mriedemadam_g: and we could probably give a heads up to armax for a stable liberty release17:07
mtreinishmriedem: heh, do you think you got all of them :)17:08
mriedemmtreinish: i hope so17:08
mtreinishmriedem: are we expecting to bump g-r/constraints to 3.0.0 at some point in the future, or not on liberty?17:08
mriedemg-r no17:09
mriedemwe shouldn't raise the minimum required version in g-r17:09
dimsdhellmann : right now we use git commands to generate the list of things that got changed. how would i do the same and add them to reno (at least for short term)?17:09
mriedemmtreinish: that's why i had to blacklist so much17:09
mtreinishmriedem: I really just meant are we ever going to bump constraints. I realize we shouldn't ever bump the min17:10
mriedemmtreinish: but i am curious as to how we're going to avoid major versions of libs breaking things that aren't tested in the upper-constraints chnages17:10
mriedemlike neutron notifications17:10
dhellmanndims: I'm not sure we would. I think we want to start writing more useful release notes.17:10
mriedemu-c gets bumped17:10
mriedemthere was a mass stable/liberty u-c bump a week or two ago17:10
mriedemmtreinish: but i'm told we can't cap libs in stable/liberty, even major versions17:11
mtreinishmriedem: well that was the assumption with the constraints model, is that we have a set of tests which were sufficient17:11
mriedemb/c u-c should be correct17:11
mriedemyeah, but the u-c testing can't possibly test everything that can go wrong17:11
mtreinishright, it's best effort. They have a couple of jobs which are supposed to be good enough coverage17:12
mriedemso for example, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247735/17:12
dimsdhellmann : i need something until we do that :)17:12
mriedemmtreinish: that should be removed from oslo.messaging at some point17:12
mriedembut that some point will break stable/liberty neutron if not capping oslo.messaging17:12
mriedemso i'm not sure how we are handling that besides capping in g-r17:12
dhellmanndims : I'm not sure what you think is missing? are you talking about for sending email announcements?17:13
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dhellmanndims : ttx and I discussed earlier today using reno to produce the body of the release announcement emails, instead of the simple git log we're doing now. There will be a short adjustment period where we might have to do some stuff by hand, but that shouldn't last long.17:14
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harlowja_dhellmann for reno, i was talking to lin (a horizon and keystone core) who also works at y! and he was thinking that reno might be overkill for oslo stuff?17:53
harlowja_maybe its not? (does it generate notes from commit messages or is it all manual?)17:54
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harlowja_stuff by hand == sadness throughout the land17:58
harlowja_mriedem cool, say https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247735/17:59
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harlowja_thx for that, was going to get around to that today if nobody else did it17:59
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dhellmannharlowja_ : I thought the same at first, but we would like to standardize on how to generate the announcement emails and that's easier if we use one tool.18:14
harlowja_dhellmann ya, i get that, dhellmann  does it still retain https://github.com/openstack-infra/release-tools/blob/master/releasetools/release_notes.py#L2818:15
harlowja_if it doesn't have those i'm not sure we can use it, lol18:15
harlowja_especially 'tickled pink'18:15
dhellmannharlowja_ : we can keep the sentiments :-)18:16
harlowja_:)18:16
harlowja_anyways, guess we can see how it goes, i do wonder how many people will hand-craft it and keep that up to date18:17
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dhellmannharlowja_ : that's a fair point. I'll mark that WIP and see if I can figure out a way to automatically tell whether a project wants to use reno or not in a reliable way18:18
harlowja_or reno could extract stuff optionally from commit messages?18:19
harlowja_*well formatted commit messages18:19
harlowja_it almost seems like the reno format could just be the commit message format (if people did it correctly)18:19
dhellmannharlowja_ : maybe. we decided against using commit messages elsewhere because they're immutable18:19
harlowja_ya, its a balance18:20
harlowja_do people expect to mutate the release notes after relase?18:20
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harlowja_*mutate the release notes for a release after the release18:21
* harlowja_ just wondering18:21
dims_harlowja_ : stable branch maintainers?18:21
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harlowja_wouldn't that be an additive change to a new release notes file?18:22
harlowja_*for whatever the next stable release ise18:22
harlowja_*is18:22
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* harlowja_ immutability makes me happy in the morning18:22
harlowja_lol18:23
dims_dhellmann : the really short cycle for oslo libs...18:23
dhellmannharlowja_ : fixing typos was the main use case for that18:24
harlowja_what are these things u call typos18:24
harlowja_lol18:24
dhellmannesp. if we get something like a bug number wrong18:24
dhellmanndims_ : yeah, between you and harlowja_ I'm rethinking this18:25
dims_dhellmann : we'll have to nudge people more to add to reno(s). just worried that the summary announce emails may end up not having enough reno(s) even when there were a bunch of reviews18:25
* dhellmann nods18:25
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dims_dhellmann : "We don't have much on the agenda for today, so let's bikeshed on the name. ;-)" LOL!18:39
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dhellmanndims_ : :-)18:55
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harlowja_oh where is the bikeshedding happening, i can't miss out19:10
* harlowja_ gets my popcorn ready19:11
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dims_harlowja_ the TC reviews for os-win :)19:21
harlowja_ah19:21
dims_harlowja_ we were just joking about bikeshedding :)19:22
harlowja_oh19:23
harlowja_durn19:23
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vilobhmm11dhellmann : Can you please have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246021/ . This is needed for the Tooz Consul Driver. Thanks!19:32
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dhellmannvilobhmm11 : one small change needed, then I'll approve based on dims' existing +219:35
vilobhmm11dhellmann : sure thanks!19:35
mriedemdhellmann: re: the previous oslo.messaging convo with ihar, and deprecation warnings, that19:37
mriedemthat's what https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247735/ is supposed to do19:37
mriedemwhen you import the old private modules you get a deprecation warning19:37
mriedemi'm not sure when we can remove that alias though, i think after liberty-eol probably19:38
mriedemor mitaka-eol if neutron doesn't remove that until N19:38
mriedemso i'll see you guys in like 2 years or something19:38
dhellmannmriedem: ok. Does the warning clearly tell the deployer how to use the new name that isn't tied to the class location?19:38
dhellmannmriedem : I think we're going to get neutron to remove them next cycle19:38
dhellmannand cinder needs to do the same, I think19:39
mriedemno it's just a standard module removal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247735/19:39
mriedemoops https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247735/3/oslo_messaging/notify/_impl_messaging.py19:39
dhellmannright, so the option value shouldn't need to be a module name19:39
dhellmannso I was thinking a bit of smart code that said "you put neutron.some.old.class.path and now you should use short-name instead"19:39
vilobhmm11dhellmann, dims_ : updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246021/7 and added license info. Please check when free.19:40
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dhellmannvilobhmm11 : +2a19:41
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Instead of a multiprocessing queue use sockets via asyncore  https://review.openstack.org/24437620:05
harlowja_mriedem http://docs.openstack.org/developer/debtcollector/examples.html#deprecating-anything-else u could use if u want20:11
harlowja_but up to u20:11
harlowja_imho its in the meh territory20:12
mriedemharlowja_: i'm definitely meh on this,20:15
harlowja_double meh20:15
harlowja_ha20:15
mriedemi want the neutron team to take the lead on this since they are the ones exposing the use of a deprecated path20:15
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harlowja_ya20:16
mriedemand the next time it breaks, i'm not getting involved20:16
harlowja_agreed20:16
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Instead of a multiprocessing queue use sockets via asyncore  https://review.openstack.org/24437620:43
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adam_gmriedem, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249367/20:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/24837221:46
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openstackgerritChris Hoge proposed openstack/oslo.config: Update the list_opts documentation for new api  https://review.openstack.org/24945422:13
openstackgerritChris Hoge proposed openstack/oslo.config: Update the list_opts documentation for new api  https://review.openstack.org/24945422:14
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openstackgerritChris Hoge proposed openstack/oslo.config: Update the list_opts documentation for new api  https://review.openstack.org/24945422:41
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