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| haypo | hey, is there someone core on requirements here? i would like a help on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238771/ "Bump PyECLib version to 1.1.1" | 14:18 |
| haypo | it's blocking swift to port it to python 3 | 14:18 |
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| haypo | the change was written by the author of PyEClib and validated by Swift PTL | 14:18 |
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| claudiub | dims: hello | 14:40 |
| claudiub | dims: can you remove your -2 from this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233457/ | 14:41 |
| dims | claudiub done | 14:41 |
| haypo | dims: hey. would you mind reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238771/ please? it's required to port swift to py3 | 14:42 |
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| claudiub | dims: ty. :) | 14:43 |
| dims | haypo LGTM | 14:44 |
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| haypo | lifeless: ah! you are also a core on requirements. could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238771/ ? | 14:44 |
| dims | claudiub sorry should have taken it out sooner | 14:44 |
| haypo | the list of core on requirements is quite short. https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/131,members | 14:45 |
| claudiub | dims: no worries. :) | 14:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elena Ezhova proposed openstack/oslo.service: Forbid launching services with 0 or negative number of workers https://review.openstack.org/241240 | 14:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Cammann proposed openstack/oslo.config: Move type formatting from generator to type https://review.openstack.org/238930 | 14:52 |
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| claudiub | dims: also, we talked a bit about the os-win governance and how to properly set it up. You said you would search for a precedence that I could follow. Any news on that? :D | 14:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Cammann proposed openstack/oslo.config: Allow naming of custom types https://review.openstack.org/221394 | 15:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Cammann proposed openstack/oslo.config: Add hostname config type https://review.openstack.org/238517 | 15:01 |
| dims | claudiub did you already see all the steps in http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html ? | 15:01 |
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| dims | claudiub here's a governance review for monasca - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213183/ | 15:03 |
| dims | claudiub as an example for governance proposal | 15:03 |
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| claudiub | dims: cool, thanks. will check it out. :) | 15:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.db: Removed Unused variable 'drivertype' https://review.openstack.org/243052 | 15:29 |
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| dims | one minute to oslo meeting... | 16:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladimir Eremin proposed openstack/oslo.config: [WIP] Support ZooKeeper and Consul for oslo.config https://review.openstack.org/243182 | 16:10 |
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| harlowja_at_home | dims, is there a meeting? | 17:02 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home meeting time was in UTC...was one hour ago | 17:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | damn it | 17:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 17:02 |
| dims | i was wondering... :) | 17:03 |
| harlowja_at_home | stupid time shift | 17:03 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol, ok, nm then :-P | 17:03 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home check the eavesdrop log, needed your input on a few things | 17:03 |
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| harlowja_at_home | kk | 17:03 |
| haypo | dims: crap. i also missed the meeting because of DST /o\ | 17:04 |
| haypo | (but i had another meeting at 1600 UTC, too bad) | 17:04 |
| dims | haypo ack | 17:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | i hate u DST | 17:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 17:05 |
| haypo | i hate timezones | 17:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | :) | 17:05 |
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| haypo | harlowja_at_home, dims : what's the status of cliutils in oslo incubator? | 17:07 |
| haypo | i reviewed a patch to support list of dict in cliutils | 17:07 |
| harlowja_at_home | good question, dims might know | 17:07 |
| harlowja_at_home | probably dead? | 17:07 |
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| haypo | harlowja_at_home: cliutils.py is still widely used | 17:08 |
| sdague | it is all over the place | 17:08 |
| haypo | harlowja_at_home: stable doesn't mean dead :-D | 17:09 |
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| sdague | it's also highly likely to have just massively diverged in the client trees | 17:09 |
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| sdague | because I doubt any of them are syncing regularly | 17:09 |
| haypo | sdague: oh | 17:09 |
| sdague | it's basically only used in the python clients iirc | 17:09 |
| dims | haypo harlowja_at_home : last time we talked, we said folks should use openstack client or sdk or things like that | 17:09 |
| haypo | sdague: ok, so we have to analyze how it is used in libraries | 17:09 |
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| haypo | dims: for example heatclient should use openstack-client? it's not the opposite? :-p sorry, i don't know clients | 17:10 |
| dims | haypo we are not asking folks to remove oslo-incubator code from their tree. we are just asking them to adopt the code that they have it and put it in their own package | 17:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | dims, as for 'Pluggable CMDB for oslo.config' (in meeting) yes i had something :-P | 17:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130047/ | 17:12 |
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| harlowja_at_home | thats at least the start of such 'pluggable' stuffs | 17:12 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home let me grab yottatsa | 17:12 |
| harlowja_at_home | kk | 17:12 |
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| harlowja_at_home | basically ^ makes it possible to proxy option fetching to somewhere else... | 17:12 |
| * haypo updates https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-oslo-incubator-cleanup | 17:12 | |
| harlowja_at_home | be that a CMDB or internets, or pigeons... | 17:12 |
| SpamapS | dims: thanks for the courtesy ping. Very rare that I"ll ever make the 0800 PST time ;) | 17:13 |
| dims | SpamapS :) | 17:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | SpamapS, wake up earlier, jeeeez | 17:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | i was up, just thought it was at 9am (PST), oops, lol | 17:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | hate u DST, lol | 17:14 |
| SpamapS | Oh I'm awake at 0700 | 17:14 |
| haypo | dims: "put it in their own package" do you mean "git mv openstack/common/cliutils.py heatclient/" for example? | 17:14 |
| dims | haypo ack | 17:14 |
| SpamapS | but so are my kids, my dog, and my beloved wife, all of whom take precedence until 0900 ;) | 17:14 |
| haypo | i'm not a fan of duplicating a file of 280 lines in each client. we have a lot of clients :-/ | 17:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | SpamapS, u are the best daddy ever :-P | 17:16 |
| dims | haypo it's already duplicated like sdague says, folks have drifted away | 17:16 |
| dims | SpamapS +1 :) | 17:16 |
| sdague | they probably mostly drift from not syncing | 17:16 |
| dims | sdague right | 17:16 |
| sdague | vs. actually doing local changes, but yeh | 17:16 |
| harlowja_at_home | ok, bb, dims have yottatsa poke me when in, heading in to work land, sorry about missing that meeting, ha | 17:17 |
| haypo | but i'm not sure that it's worth to create a library for one file of 280 lines | 17:17 |
| haypo | why not moving it to oslo_utils for example? | 17:17 |
| dims | haypo for clients, additional requirements are a burden if they are not using oslo.utils already | 17:18 |
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| dims | haypo i'd support trying to sync everyone one...one last time :) | 17:21 |
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| markus_z | hogepodge: wrt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242472/1/oslo_config/cfg.py,cm | 17:37 |
| markus_z | hogepodge: I still have a problem to understand why the code in that review would break existing usages of oslo.config. | 17:37 |
| markus_z | hogepodge: All other options in Nova (which I used for my tests) were still registered with a plain string for the group name. | 17:38 |
| markus_z | hogepodge: Which means I had a mixture of OptGroup objects and group names as strings. | 17:39 |
| hogepodge | markus_z: it's a matter of discovering the group. The change itself won't break existing code, but it makes an assumption that isn't necessarily true (groups are registered) | 17:39 |
| markus_z | hogepodge: And I did the registration by using the "list_opts" interface? | 17:40 |
| hogepodge | markus_z: the question is, does oslo expect groups to be registered (in which case the documentation needs to be updated and the code can land as is), or does oslo need to provide a new mechanism (that is compatible with the old) by which groups can be discovered for documentation | 17:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Tom Cocozzello proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Define entry points for filter factories for Paste Deployment https://review.openstack.org/230156 | 17:41 |
| hogepodge | markus_z: there's a global configuration object that you registered with in line 60 of the updated serial.py | 17:43 |
| markus_z | hogepodge: OK, got it, that's the location where I register the group implicitly, right? | 17:45 |
| haypo | dims: i did a quick check. nova, heat and ceilometer clients use oslo.utils and are almost sync with oslo incubator for cliutils.py | 17:46 |
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| hogepodge | markus_z: I think nova picks up the serial console options for list_opts here, but I may be wrong. https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/1635086529c43edcb69966c48c41b5fca2d1b26c/nova/opts.py | 17:48 |
| markus_z | hogepodge: you're right, that's where it gets picked for the generation of the sample.conf. What do you want to say with this? | 17:50 |
| hogepodge | markus_z: that is as far as I can tell, option registration with the global conf object isn't guaranteed, so we either can't depend on that for group help text generation or we need to document that registration has to happen. | 17:52 |
| hogepodge | no matter how we look at it, there is no way to guarantee help text generation for groups with oslo as-is | 17:53 |
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| markus_z | hogepodge: Would a ML discussion make sense? If yes, would you write it as you seem to be clearer what the problem is :) | 17:57 |
| dims | hogepodge markus_z : give me a sec | 17:57 |
| dims | hogepodge markus_z : in _output_opts, we have a isinstance() check for OptGroup, if it is an OptGroup we can just call the new format_group method, right? | 17:59 |
| markus_z | dims: true | 18:00 |
| dims | so then the burden would be on nova to pass in OptGroup correctly when it has info in it for help | 18:00 |
| markus_z | yes, that's the change I had to do in "opts.py": http://paste.openstack.org/show/478295/ | 18:01 |
| dims | right | 18:01 |
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| markus_z | but I think this could also work without the public "get_group" method in the "cfg.py" module. I have to double-check this. | 18:03 |
| dims | right, we don't need to call get_group | 18:04 |
| dims | i feel i am missing something if this does not work | 18:04 |
| markus_z | That was a pool clone&own action from me without fully understanding what I do :D | 18:04 |
| markus_z | *poor | 18:05 |
| hogepodge | dims: my only concern would be if there are any other consumers of list_opts | 18:05 |
| hogepodge | if the help generation is all that depends on it, then no problem | 18:05 |
| dims | hogepodge right, you asked me that first :) | 18:05 |
| hogepodge | that api could change | 18:05 |
| dims | so far, yes, it's an extension for sample generation and the code already assumes that the group name or the OptGroup can be present | 18:06 |
| dims | and if we have the OptGroup, we don't need to look it up, we just format the help in it | 18:06 |
| markus_z | this means removing "get_group" and change the rest accordingly and leave it to the projects (nova in my case) to inject the proper object (group name or OptGroup object), right? | 18:08 |
| dims | markus_z right | 18:08 |
| markus_z | cool, understood | 18:08 |
| dims | OptGroup if you need additional help, just name otherwise | 18:08 |
| markus_z | Cool :) It's already late in my timezone, I'll push a new patch set tomorrow morning. | 18:10 |
| markus_z | hogepodge: dims: Thanks a lot for your help! | 18:10 |
| dims | markus_z sounds good. hogepodge thanks for your help as well | 18:10 |
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| lifeless | haypo: sure | 18:33 |
| lifeless | haypo: jenkins is red though | 18:34 |
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| rjaiswal | harlowja, jd__: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242619/ is merged on kilo, wondering if we can have a release out today | 18:52 |
| hogepodge | markus_z: dims: thanks! Plus, documentation. :-D | 18:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Remove oslo namespace package https://review.openstack.org/243255 | 18:58 |
| jd__ | rjaiswal: that's the duty of openstack-release team not sure how we do that, patch on their repo? | 18:58 |
| harlowja_ | maybe jd__ rjaiswal a patch into https://github.com/openstack/releases/tree/master/deliverables ? | 18:59 |
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| harlowja_ | i'm not sure about old stable releases dhellmann though might have an idea | 18:59 |
| jd__ | I think so harlowja_ | 18:59 |
| harlowja_ | my guess to, dhellmann hopefully has more idea :) | 18:59 |
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| rjaiswal | harlowja: thx, will submit a patch to openstack/releases | 19:06 |
| rjaiswal | or shud that be done by the PTL or the release liaison for tooz? | 19:07 |
| harlowja_ | rjaiswal i think anyone can | 19:08 |
| rjaiswal | ok | 19:08 |
| * harlowja_ just wanted to check with dhellmann to make sure we are doing it right for stable releases | 19:08 | |
| harlowja_ | i've done it (patches to that repo) for new releases, not stable ones | 19:08 |
| rjaiswal | harlowja:ok | 19:09 |
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| rbradfor | is there a Oslo standard/guideline for the _18n.py (the integration module holding the domain specific TranslatorFactory). Some projects use "_18n" others use "i18n". | 19:24 |
| dims | rbradfor __i18n marks it as private, so preferred i think | 19:25 |
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| rbradfor | dims, this is for the filenames observed, and they only use a single '_' | 19:26 |
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| dims | right | 19:26 |
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| rbradfor | pays to be consistent when possible over conventions. | 19:27 |
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| rbradfor | dims, does it warrant defining in docs, so projects follow a convention (e.g. http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.i18n/usage.html). I know it sounds trivial, but there are plenty of these inconsistencies, that make code "less portable" | 19:31 |
| dims | rbradfor +1 | 19:32 |
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| rjaiswal | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243275/, not quite sure why gate-releases-tox-validate fails, think its confusing 0.10 as 0.1 | 19:47 |
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| haypo | lifeless: "jenkins is red though" sorry i lost the context. which jenkins? | 20:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Banashankar k proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Fixing the server example code Added server.stop() before server.wait() https://review.openstack.org/243294 | 20:21 |
| lifeless | haypo: the review on requirements you asked me to review | 20:22 |
| haypo | lifeless: ah, it was discussed on -infra and then -swift. and you approved the new change, thanks ;) | 20:23 |
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