Friday, 2015-10-02

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dimssdague: looks like this partial ncpu job is green - https://jenkins06.openstack.org/job/gate-grenade-dsvm-partial-ncpu/6497/console00:16
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo-specs: Add failure remoting best-of-breed spec (WIP)  https://review.openstack.org/22919400:18
sdaguedims: right, that one has the devstack double kill in it00:19
sdagueso that means oslo.service is still not working correctly00:19
sdaguehowever, I'm likely to push that forward, and set up some custom job on oslo.service so someone can play with making it work again00:20
dimssdague: when i found the rpc alias, i had a partial ncpu job got past the problem when the double kill would have kicked in00:20
sdaguedims: right00:20
sdaguethat's what that is00:20
sdaguethe depends on chain is crazy00:20
dimsi am trying to get a oslo.service on stable/liberty out tonight00:21
dimswill that help?00:21
sdagueno00:21
dimsk makes it easier on me then :)00:22
sdaguehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/230101 is forcing oslo.service from source00:22
sdagueand it doesn't seem to help00:22
sdaguetomorrow, or monday we should set up a grenade job on oslo.service that attempts to use the lib from source, liberty -> master and master -> master00:23
dimsack00:23
dimsagree00:23
sdaguebecause under load the oslo.service is not correctly shutting down processes00:23
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sdagueand the only thing that's exposed it is the grenade old side shutdown00:23
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo-specs: Add failure remoting best-of-breed spec (WIP)  https://review.openstack.org/22919400:24
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sdagueI wish I had a narrower test, but this one is pretty consistent00:24
dimsunderstood sdague00:25
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tchaypolifeless: I got a notification that you mentioned me but I can’t find where it happened01:15
tchaypooh, there it is, in infra, many eons ago.01:16
lifelesstchaypo: yeah01:19
lifelesstchaypo: so I want to unblock this pbr critical bugfix01:19
tchaypoI spent yesterday trying to get an integration test to trigger the failure, but I can’t. I think that’s because pbr is already installed in the test virtualenv.01:19
lifelessit seems stalled on a true test?01:19
lifelesstchaypo: what test virtualenv? The tox one, or the isolated one for the integration test?01:20
tchaypothe isolated one for the integration test01:20
lifelessok01:21
lifelessI suspect the integration setup glue has that defaulted in it01:21
tchaypoI was trying to “pip uninstall pbr” but couldn’t find the binary before I ran out of day01:22
lifelessline 7101:22
lifelessthe venv method01:22
lifelessI'd make that a parameter to venv01:23
lifelessyou'll want a new test class anyhow and to pull that up, or perhaps sideways01:23
tchaypoI was thinking today I will go back to the test that I know works and try to figure out what nose is doing01:23
lifelesssince we don't want this across-all-projects01:23
tchayposo that instead of a test that does “install nose and see if it breaks” we can look at the more specific thing that nose is doing01:23
lifelessok01:24
lifelessthat seems useful too01:24
lifelesswould you like me to put up a sketch of an integration test with the venv thing fixed?01:24
tchaypothat sounds like it would be very helpful :)01:24
tchaypoline 71 of which file?01:24
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lifelesspbr/tests/test_integration.py01:35
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/stevedore: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/23023601:59
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tchaypolifeless: *facepalm* Yep. I read that line of code yesterday but apparently had insufficient caffeine to notice what it did02:03
lifelesstchaypo: patch coming soon02:06
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack-dev/pbr: test_integration cleanups  https://review.openstack.org/23024102:21
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Remove redundant testscenarios glue.  https://review.openstack.org/23024202:21
openstackgerritlifeless proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Show where to put new tests.  https://review.openstack.org/23024302:21
lifelesstchaypo: ^02:21
lifeless230243 is just for illustration,02:22
lifelessyou should rebase on top of 23024202:22
lifelessdhellmann: did you need a reno revue?02:22
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openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed openstack/pycadf: Document existing hacking violations  https://review.openstack.org/23025503:12
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openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed openstack/pycadf: Document and update existing hacking violations  https://review.openstack.org/23025503:18
openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed openstack/pycadf: Add docstring validation  https://review.openstack.org/23025703:25
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tchaypolifeless: Was 230243 meant to be “a sketch of an integration test with the venv thing fixed”? If so, “sketch” is being very generous..05:28
tchaypoI’me working with Nakato - she thinks she has a working minimal example of a way we can reproduce this05:33
openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Simplify flow action engine compilation  https://review.openstack.org/22070405:38
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d0ugalHow do oslo libraries define their public API?07:41
d0ugalIs it simple, if it doesn't start with an underscore it is public?07:41
d0ugalor is it more involved?07:41
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openstackgerritMarian Horban proposed openstack/oslo.service: Termination children on SIGHUP added  https://review.openstack.org/22481409:08
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openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/oslo.config: Allow naming of custom types  https://review.openstack.org/22139409:29
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sdaguedims__: so, I'm looking at other oslo.service tests, it looks like the tests are regularly timing out and failing. I wonder if it's the same issue showing up in the unit tests that people are just rechecking past.09:51
dims__sdague: y i was looking at a diff between master and stable/liberty + the 2 changes. you are right it's failing consistently right now. trying to figure out how/why it was working before09:53
openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/oslo.config: Raise exception when wrong type is used as default  https://review.openstack.org/22207809:54
sdaguedims__: I think it's a race09:54
sdagueand you just got unlucky09:54
sdaguelooking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189418/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190175/09:54
sdagueI think basically what happens is we keep swinging back and forth on "oslo.service needs to actually stop services" and "oslo.service needs to wait around for all work units"09:55
sdaguebecause the patch that this "fixes" is the one bknudson wrote to address exactly this same issue in the kilo release09:56
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haypodims__, sdague : hey, can someone please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225580/ ? "Update pyngus to 2.0, now supports Python 3" in dependencies. easy win, simple patch ;)09:56
sdaguehaypo: why is there a cap in g-r ?09:57
dims__good point09:58
dims__haypo: you may like this nova patch :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229069/09:58
hayposdague: do you mean "pyngus<3.0.0"? i see that other projects do that. it's to avoid huge explosion when a new major version is release with incompatible changes, no?09:59
dims__eezhova: mhorban: ping09:59
haypodims__: hum, there is a bug09:59
haypodims__: usually your patches modify at least 20 files. this one is too short. what is the trick? :-D09:59
dims__LOL!09:59
haypodims__: tests-py3.txt is a black list? i expected a white list10:00
dims__haypo: there's always a catch, this one if merged will make everyone write python3 compatible tests (OR) add their test to this list, so makes it very clear that someone is adding debt10:00
dims__haypo: y a previous iteration used a black list10:00
dims__sorry a white list10:00
dims__i like this one better10:01
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haypodims__: i prefer to use a white list to not annoy developers until the code is ported10:01
haypodims__: for example, if the virtualization part is not compatible with python 3, someone working on a new feature may be "blocked" by existing bugs in python 3, even if tests passed previously10:02
dims__haypo: it's not too bad to add one more line to the file10:02
haypohum, i don't know if you understand me10:02
dims__haypo: y i understand10:02
dims__haypo: that's why i added the soapbox section in the commit message10:02
* dims__ back in a bit. waking up kids10:02
sdagueyeh, honestly, I think blacklist is a better option, it keeps us from regressing10:03
haypodims__: did you disuss that in a nova meeting or the mailing list? it's a major choice10:03
haypodims__: currently, only 19% of tests pass on nova. it may be too early to force developers to write python3 code10:04
haypomaybe you are more brave than me :)10:04
hayposdague: true. but i don't know how others will react :)10:04
haypo(when their changes will start to fail)10:04
sdagueI suspect this will be fine, if not we can always change it10:04
haypowell, lazy developers will still be able to add the failing test to the blacklist. right?10:05
sdagueyes, they'll probably get a little grief for it, but yes10:05
sdagueit also makes the review team be deliberate about "this doesn't work in python3"10:06
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haypoi'm probably too conservative, but i fear that developers become anger against python3!10:07
haypoangry*10:07
hayposdague, dims__ : FYI I created the #openstack-python3 where you can discuss python 3 freely, in a zen python 3 fridenly place :-D10:08
haypodims__: i'm was planning to restart working on porting nova to python 3, since my most of others patches are merged are waiting for review, and master is open again for mitaka in nova10:09
sdaguedims__: so I'm reopening this but - https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.service/+bug/144658310:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1446583 in oslo.service "services no longer reliably stop in stable/kilo" [Critical,New]10:12
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openstackgerritAlexey Yelistratov proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Remove unnecessary rpc_zmq_port option  https://review.openstack.org/23012110:14
hayposdague: for pyngus https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225580/ do you mean that it's wrong to cap <3.0 ?10:17
hayposdague: i can remove this cap if you prefer, i don't really care. i only care of switching to the version 2.x (... which is already used in practice if you see upper-constraints.txt !) and enable the dependency on python 310:18
haypoby the way, what is the right channel to discuss requirements? :)10:18
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sdagueusually we do it in -dev or the release manager office10:22
sdagueI'm fine with the 3.0 cap I guess, we were just trying to decrease capping10:22
sdaguebecause lifting a cap is really hard10:22
dims__haypo: let's remove the cap, unless there's a strong reason for it10:23
dims__sdague: ack on the reopen10:24
sdaguehaypo: the upper contraints system will block the worst breakages10:25
dims__right10:25
hayposdague: last time i asked lifeless, he told me that upper constraints are not used on all gates. is it still the case?10:25
sdagueit may not be yet, but it's coming10:28
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haypo"haypo: let's remove the cap" ok fine & done, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225580/10:29
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dims__dukhlov: please log a global requirements review for the 2 pika libraries? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229985/1/requirements.txt,cm10:51
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dims__dukhlov: do we really need to drop the rabbit_* params? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226348/2/lib/rpc_backend,cm10:55
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openstackgerritDmitry Mescheryakov proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Make forever_retry_uncaught_exceptions handle its own failures  https://review.openstack.org/23036710:56
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_dukhlovdims__,sdague: Hello12:04
sdaguedims__: you don't have +2 on requirements yet?12:05
_dukhlovdims__, sdague: regarding question about removing rabbit_* options from devstack/lib/rpc_backend.py12:06
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_dukhlovdims__, sdague:my investigation of oslo.messaging code show that transport_url option works instead of rabbit_host rabbit_userid and rabbit_password options12:08
_dukhlovdims__, sdague: you can look at this logic here https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/b1af9c25c2850af066846477a4f300ec3cfe828c/oslo_messaging/_drivers/impl_rabbit.py#L40512:08
_dukhlovdims__, sdague: but I'm working on oslo.messaging just about a few month and I may miss some known probably for you issue12:10
sdague_dukhlov: right, cool12:11
sdaguewhat would be super cool is if the additional options could be encoded in the url as well12:12
sdagueso we could get rid of those additional sections12:12
_dukhlov agree12:13
_dukhlovBTW pika itself could be configured using such approach12:14
eezhovadims__, pong12:15
_dukhlovbut have our transport url format and cannot use it12:16
eezhovadims__, I'm currently looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo-incubator/+bug/144658312:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1446583 in oslo.service "services no longer reliably stop in stable/liberty / master" [Critical,New]12:16
eezhovadims__, I think I found the reason why grenade fails in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229363/7 , see comment #5112:17
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_dukhlovsdague: anyway this is topic for anothe pb I guess - improving our transport_url configuration posibilities12:17
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sdague_dukhlov: yes, for sure, I just wanted to bring it up when I noticed it12:18
_dukhlovsdague: is scope of current devstack patch, are you ok with this change?12:18
sdague_dukhlov: yes, I'm ok with the current change12:18
sdaguecan you send me the link again, I lost it in all the other morning conversation12:19
_dukhlovsdague: ah, clear. cool12:19
_dukhlovsdague: one moment12:19
_dukhlovhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/226348/2/12:20
sdagueeezhova: if you think that increasing the timeout will work, I can do that.12:20
sdague10 seconds seemed pretty long12:20
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eezhovasdague, I can push the test change to grenade so you can test your patch with it12:21
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eezhovasdague, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230397/12:24
dims__eezhova: thanks for the investigation12:24
sdagueeezhova: oh, I just did this - https://review.openstack.org/23039812:24
sdaguewhich is slightly more generic12:24
dims___dukhlov: thanks for following up12:25
eezhovasdague, oh, okay, let's go with yours12:25
sdaguelet me build up a test scenario for that12:25
sdagueif https://review.openstack.org/229363 passes, we might be good12:27
eezhovaif not, I'll investigate further12:28
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openstackgerritfumihiko kakuma proposed openstack/oslo.rootwrap: Python 3: encode or decode i/o data of Popen.communicate()  https://review.openstack.org/23040812:39
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sdagueeezhova: https://jenkins03.openstack.org/job/gate-grenade-dsvm/6095/console is the job running, we can see if that passes12:48
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openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/oslo.config: Enable inline comments  https://review.openstack.org/23041112:49
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eezhovasdague, yeah, I'm watching it12:49
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openstackgerritRonald Bradford proposed openstack/tooz: Add standard code coverage configuration file  https://review.openstack.org/23042213:10
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eezhovasdague, the job passed13:11
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sdagueeezhova: ok, great13:20
sdagueit was always a race, so we'll have to see if it comes back later13:20
dims__sdague: so we run recheck a few times?13:22
sdaguedims__: well, honestly, I'm ok with landing and tracking if it comes back13:23
sdaguewe're going to be in a state where we'll need a lot more volume to get an answer13:23
sdagueof if it's gone for good13:23
dims__sdague: +113:23
openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.utils: Ensure stopwatch __enter__, __exit__ are in docs  https://review.openstack.org/23011313:23
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haypodims__: oh, would you mind to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229908/ ? "Add utilities for base64"13:35
dims__haypo: ack lining it up13:37
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haypodims__: you got my +1 for "Use os-testr for py34 tox target" https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229069/ sdague & you convinced me that it's just fine to switch to a blacklist ;)13:41
openstackgerritTom Cocozzello proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Work In Progress: Configure filter factories for PasteDeploy  https://review.openstack.org/23015613:42
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dims__haypo: thanks13:53
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dims__kgiusti: flaper87: seen this yet?14:05
dims__kgiusti: flaper87: http://logs.openstack.org/21/230121/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-amqp1/a5fc77a/logs/testr_results.html.gz14:05
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flaper87dims__: looking14:06
* kgiusti mmmm....14:06
dims__flaper87: it's all green rpc_backend = amqp14:06
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flaper87o.014:06
kgiustidims__: that's a good thing, right?  or not?14:07
flaper87sorry, lemme change the surprise face14:07
dims__kgiusti: i added that job yesterday, so seems to be good. we need to capture logs from amqp stuff like we do for rabbitmq too i think14:08
kgiustiflaper87: can we verify it's actually using amqp?14:08
* kgiusti is a pessimist14:08
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kgiustidims__: thanks for adding the job.  Greatly appreciated.14:10
dims__very welcome kgiusti14:10
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flaper87dims__: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225580/15:05
flaper87mind using your new powers?15:06
flaper87:D15:06
openstackgerritTom Cocozzello proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Work In Progress: Configure filter factories for PasteDeploy  https://review.openstack.org/23015615:09
dims__flaper87: done15:11
haypodims__, flaper87 : cool :)15:12
haypopython 3 is coming (again) in oslo :)15:14
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openstackgerritTom Cocozzello proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Work In Progress: Configure filter factories for PasteDeploy  https://review.openstack.org/23015615:23
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openstackgerritRonald Bradford proposed openstack/oslotest: Fix coverage configuration and execution  https://review.openstack.org/23049715:35
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openstackgerritOleksii Zamiatin proposed openstack/devstack-plugin-zmq: Properly run zmq-broker screen  https://review.openstack.org/23050815:45
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openstackgerritKomei Shimamura proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Add devstack plugin for kafka  https://review.openstack.org/22752215:53
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/23055917:11
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openstackgerritJohn Eckersberg proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: rabbit: shuffle hosts before building kombu URL  https://review.openstack.org/23059217:49
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abithahello all, alembic 'DROP' migrations doesn't work with sqllite. is there a way to get around this?18:35
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.utils: Use a stopwatch in 'forever_retry_uncaught_exceptions'  https://review.openstack.org/23061919:27
harlowjaabitha zzzeek might know that answer, if he's around19:27
zzzeekyou can DROP a table19:27
zzzeeknot columns or FKs though, if this is the “our test suite wants to erase all foreign keys and is suddenly failing with SQLAlhcemy 1.0”, skip the “Drop foriegn key” step for the sqlite backend only19:28
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abithazzzeek: this is for dropping a column in the alembic downgrade. The error is "sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (sqlite3.OperationalError) near "DROP": syntax error"20:09
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/oslo.versionedobjects: Copy __contains__ from VersionedObjectDictCompat to VersionedObject  https://review.openstack.org/23063620:35
mriedemsuperdan: ^20:35
superdanmriedem: sorry, but I can't give a f**k about that until monday20:36
mriedemyou lie20:36
mriedemit's what 1:36pm there?20:36
superdanI'm all out of f**ks for the week20:36
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mriedemi still have some light reading to do of yours20:36
dimsum__lol20:36
superdanmriedem: yeah, it sucks when I run out before noon, but...20:36
superdanmriedem: oh sure, pull that card20:36
mriedemha20:36
mriedemhostage mothaf*cka20:36
superdanhehe20:36
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harlowjamhorban so i guess if we need it, https://github.com/harlowja/notifier i think can be moved or packaged or whatever as needed22:50
* harlowja did a few small tweaks to it, otherwise good to go22:50
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Use the node built-in 'dfs_iter' instead of recursion  https://review.openstack.org/20573123:14
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openstackgerritJoshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo-specs: Add failure remoting best-of-breed spec (WIP)  https://review.openstack.org/22919423:23
waynris this the place to ask about possible bugs in pbr?23:25
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waynrI am setting my version in setup.cfg for a project using pbr to "1.2.0.post0" and pbr is transforming this into "1.2.0.devN" where N is the number of commits since the last tag (no tags in my current clone)23:26
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waynrThis section in the pbr doc suggests that pbr honors PEP-440 which allows for ".postN"23:27
waynrwhich in my case is semantically correct23:27
waynrI'm not working on a dev version of 1.2.0, but a post-release of 1.2.023:27
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waynrI feel like I should know by now where to look for bug reports23:29
* waynr reads the manual23:30
harlowjawaynr lifeless if he's around might be able to help23:30
waynrwhoops forgot to link to pbr doc http://docs.openstack.org/developer/pbr/semver.html#changes-vs-semver-2-023:32
waynreven when I use a tag like "1.2.0.post" or "1.2.0.post0" pbr/setuptools ain't having it23:34
waynrharlowja: can you point me to the bug repots for pbr?23:35
waynraha, found it23:36
waynrsweet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pbr/+bug/145251523:37
openstackLaunchpad bug 1452515 in PBR "PEP-440 local versions not accepted" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Greg Hellings (greg-hellings)23:37
waynrlooks like lifeless wanted a spec in oslo-specs23:38
waynrhttp://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/specs/juno/pbr-semver.html23:41
waynractually that spec may be implemented already23:43
waynrhttp://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/ appear to be organized by milestone23:43
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waynrhmm looks like nothing has happened on this front since back way back, i might be better off just using a bogus version and hard-pinning my depdendent project to that version23:55
waynrs/way back/in June/23:55
waynrI'm not familiar enough with Nova or Neutron to understand the spec lifeless is requestin in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192842/23:57
waynrotherwise I would probably throw something together23:57
waynrwhat really needs to happen here is i need to leave work and go spend the rest of the night reading The Martian23:59

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