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| openstackgerrit | Ronald Bradford proposed openstack/oslo-incubator: Improve error messaging for accessing review.o.o https://review.openstack.org/218964 | 17:02 |
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| cfriesen | hi all...we're seeing what appears to be memory leaks in oslo.messaging 1.8.3. Are there any known issues? (with rabbitmq) I see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1475307 but would that apply to older versions too? | 17:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1475307 in oslo.messaging "oslo.messaging has possible memory leak" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Joshua Harlow (harlowja) | 17:26 |
| harlowja | i didn't do it, lol | 17:26 |
| harlowja | oh | 17:26 |
| harlowja | lol | 17:26 |
| dims__ | haha | 17:26 |
| harlowja | cfriesen so afaik 1.8.3 wasn't using the unified scheduler/executor interfaces | 17:28 |
| harlowja | so it shouldn't be affected by 1475307 | 17:28 |
| harlowja | the unification came later, can't remember which version | 17:28 |
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| harlowja | is there anyway u can determine more about said memory leaks, which objects, some kind of details so that it can be examined | 17:29 |
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| cfriesen | yeah, we just recently narrowed it down to that, haven't started going into detail yet. Just thought I'd check if anyone else had seen something. | 17:29 |
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| harlowja | i haven't, but others might | 17:31 |
| harlowja | if u can get some details, i can check with some godaddy folks and other y! folks, (operators) see if they've seen anyhting odd | 17:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslotest: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/229070 | 17:56 |
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| waynr | what does "oslo" stand for? | 18:36 |
| haypo | waynr: good question :) can it be the name of the city? | 18:37 |
| dhellmann | waynr: it's not an acronym | 18:37 |
| waynr | ha | 18:37 |
| dhellmann | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo | 18:37 |
| waynr | cool | 18:37 |
| haypo | OpenStack Common Libraries | 18:38 |
| waynr | stevedore++ | 18:38 |
| haypo | dhellmann: i don't see where the oslo name was chosen in this page | 18:38 |
| dhellmann | haypo, waynr : markmc picked "Oslo" because of the peace accords held there | 18:38 |
| waynr | i've been using it recently for modular implementation of subcommands for a couple different projects | 18:38 |
| dhellmann | haypo: yeah, I guess we don't have it written down in the wiki :-/ | 18:38 |
| haypo | dhellmann: oh ok :) good to know :) | 18:38 |
| dhellmann | waynr: you should also check out cliff if you are writing command line tools | 18:39 |
| haypo | dhellmann: this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_I_Accord ? | 18:39 |
| dhellmann | haypo: yes, I think that's right | 18:40 |
| waynr | dhellmann: very cool! | 18:41 |
| dhellmann | waynr: cliff is managed by the sdk team, since they manage openstackclient | 18:43 |
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| waynr | i may give it a try for the JJB command line rework I am doing...I definitely want the JJB 2.0 API to allow users to provide their own sub commands to the standard JJB command line if they want | 18:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Port the AMQP 1.0 driver to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/204696 | 18:52 |
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| haypo | dhellmann: ok, i rebased https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225580/ "Update pyngus to 2.0, now supports Python 3" | 18:54 |
| haypo | it's required by https://review.openstack.org/204696 "Port the AMQP 1.0 driver to Python 3", almost the last part of Oslo which is not compatible with python 3!? | 18:55 |
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| suro-patz | hi folks! For versionedobjects, if we are adding a method to the object, should we bump up the version of the object? if yes, what is the technical reason | 18:56 |
| suro-patz | can somebody please help me understand this? | 18:56 |
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| suro-patz | dims: ^^ | 18:56 |
| haypo | suro-patz: dansmith ^^ | 18:57 |
| dansmith | suro-patz: if you are adding a remotable method, then yes | 18:58 |
| dansmith | suro-patz: and the reason is that if you have a newer client that tries to make that call against an older indirection service, it will provide the version and gracefully fail when the older one refuses the call | 18:58 |
| suro-patz | dansmith: for remotable classmethod? | 18:59 |
| dansmith | suro-patz: yes | 18:59 |
| suro-patz | dansmith: thanks for confirming! | 18:59 |
| dansmith | suro-patz: np | 19:00 |
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| harlowja | dims if u get sometime https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-mikata-survey (let me know any initial thoughts) | 19:17 |
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| harlowja | dhellmann ok need a snazzy name for a notification library, lol | 19:35 |
| harlowja | thinking caps activate! | 19:36 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:36 |
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| * harlowja sucks at naming things, ha | 19:40 | |
| harlowja | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/watchers ? | 19:40 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: is there anything about that part of the taskflow api that would make it hard to reimplement it using an existing library? | 19:41 |
| harlowja | depends on which existing library, blinkr is the only one i know about, blinkr i think is possibly now close enough to be used | 19:42 |
| harlowja | *blinker | 19:43 |
| harlowja | there are probably some disconnects/missing stuff, but probably nothing unfixable | 19:43 |
| harlowja | so maybe blinker can just be worked through | 19:44 |
| harlowja | https://github.com/jek/blinker/blob/master/blinker/base.py#L30 is its equivalent of a notification 'class' | 19:44 |
| harlowja | badly imho named signal | 19:44 |
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| harlowja | actually thats a difference conceptually now that i look at it more | 19:45 |
| harlowja | in blinker usage, signal is a single named thing, and u connect senders/receivers into that, vs in taskflow, a notifier has many registered things and u then register callbacks with that notifier, and then notify() via that object | 19:46 |
| harlowja | 1:1 vs many:many it seems | 19:46 |
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| harlowja | ie, http://paste.openstack.org/show/474740/ | 19:51 |
| harlowja | so thats a big difference, notifier (taskflow kind) don't map 1:1 with symbols (in blinker terms) | 19:51 |
| dims | harlowja: ack. | 19:52 |
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| harlowja | conceptually they are similar though | 19:53 |
| harlowja | blinker also uses a global symbol registration for symbols | 19:54 |
| harlowja | so that sorta sucks | 19:54 |
| harlowja | although i think ^ has gotten better | 19:54 |
| harlowja | but all things can probably be worked through, if we so desire | 19:55 |
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| harlowja | the 1:1 vs M:M is a core difference though | 19:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.middleware: Allow health check results to provide there own details https://review.openstack.org/228677 | 19:59 |
| dhellmann | harlowja: ok, it sounds like maybe the models are different enough to warrant a new lib | 20:01 |
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| harlowja | ya, the 1:1 vs M:M is a little harder to work around | 20:03 |
| harlowja | neutron i think was also having some of its own notification stuff i think, so this can be a way to get there usecases in also | 20:03 |
| harlowja | not sure where they hide that code though, lol | 20:04 |
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| harlowja | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/notifiers/nova.py#L65 maybe | 20:04 |
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| harlowja | not sure the extent of that being used in neutron though | 20:06 |
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| jlvillal | dims: Regarding: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220268/ Does that mean don't modify upper-constraints.txt? | 20:45 |
| jlvillal | Or modify less of it? | 20:45 |
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| dims | jlvillal: i don't think you need to touch upper-constraints.txt at all, there's a job that updates upper-constraints.txt | 20:47 |
| jlvillal | dims: Thanks and excellent :) | 20:49 |
| jlvillal | dims: Though the docs seems to say we should do that. If I recall correctly. | 20:49 |
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| jlvillal | dims: https://github.com/openstack/requirements Under 'proposing changes' | 20:50 |
| dims | ``upper-constraints.txt`` is machine generated and nothing more or less than | 20:50 |
| dims | an exact list of versions. | 20:50 |
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| dims | from README.rst | 20:50 |
| * jlvillal slightly confused. But happy to upload patch without upper-constraints.txt... | 20:51 | |
| dims | jlvillal: for brand new libraries, g-r should be enough i think. lifeless and dhellmann, can you please confirm? | 20:54 |
| lifeless | per the README - please run generate-constraints manually to pick up any new transitive deps | 20:55 |
| dims | lifeless: even when the transitive deps are brand new? | 20:56 |
| lifeless | dims: yeah, avoids race conditions | 20:56 |
| lifeless | dims: if we add to g-r, and there is a change in e.g. nova with a depends-on the g-r change | 20:57 |
| lifeless | then it will get into nova before we've generated upper-constraints | 20:57 |
| lifeless | and the jobs will run un-constrained | 20:57 |
| lifeless | so we can wedge | 20:57 |
| dims | lifeless: hmm, there are a lot of reviews with just g-r changes... | 20:57 |
| lifeless | dims: see 'proposing changes' steps 2, 3 and 4 | 20:58 |
| lifeless | dims: thats often the case when raising minimums | 20:58 |
| lifeless | dims: since the constraints are already picking a higher version than the old minimum | 20:58 |
| jlvillal | dims: Should I re-post previous version of patch with upper-constraints.txt? | 20:58 |
| dims | lifeless: so a reviewer has to do the same steps to check if the proposed g-r and u-c are correct? | 20:59 |
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| dims | jlvillal: hang on :) | 20:59 |
| jlvillal | :) | 20:59 |
| dims | lifeless: there should be some tox target or something that does this automagically when a review gets uploaded...no? | 21:01 |
| dims | (and lets people know if the u-c is not correct) | 21:01 |
| jlvillal | Or at least a job that can check that it was done. I did see note about 'it may require some fiddling...' | 21:01 |
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| dims | jlvillal: thanks for your patience. honestly grenade/devstack etc have not yet had their stable/ branches so requirements are still frozen i thinj | 21:05 |
| jlvillal | dims: dhellmann had removed his -2 on this patch today. So I thought we were out of freeze. | 21:07 |
| lifeless | dims: perhas | 21:07 |
| lifeless | dims: I just use the heuristics under review guidelines | 21:07 |
| dhellmann | jlvillal: patience, please, we're still in the middle of the release and trying to make sure we don't screw anything up | 21:07 |
| lifeless | dims: its worth noting that it will self-correct anyway | 21:08 |
| lifeless | dims: so its not worth being terribly strict or worried about | 21:08 |
| jlvillal | dhellmann: Will do. | 21:08 |
| lifeless | dims: *also* we can't write a job to check it was done 'right' because it depends on external state (the state of PyPI) | 21:09 |
| dims | lifeless: hmm. trying to learn so i don't make mistakes :) | 21:09 |
| lifeless | dims: so someone can follow the instructions correctly and still come to a different output than CI would 10 minutes later | 21:09 |
| dims | lifeless: right | 21:09 |
| lifeless | dims: and *both* outputs are valid and sufficient | 21:09 |
| dims | ha! | 21:09 |
| dims | :) | 21:09 |
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| waynr | dhellmann: hey just had a chance to look over cliff a little more closely, looks very similar to what I have been doing with stevedore! | 21:25 |
| jlvillal | dims: Any conclusion on which patch I should do? I'm thinking with u-c. | 21:29 |
| jlvillal | But not sure. | 21:29 |
| dims | jlvillal: ack let's file that. apologies for the confusion | 21:29 |
| jlvillal | dims: I appreciate your help and due diligence! :) | 21:29 |
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| jlvillal | dims: Uploaded previous version | 21:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/automaton: Ignore generated files https://review.openstack.org/229006 | 21:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.vmware: Add support for SSL thumbprint when using FileWriteHandle https://review.openstack.org/228861 | 21:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.middleware: ssl: deprecated in favor of http_proxy_to_wsgi https://review.openstack.org/228875 | 21:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.service: Cleanup thread on thread done callback https://review.openstack.org/229171 | 22:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.service: Avoid removing entries for timers that didn't stop https://review.openstack.org/229172 | 22:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.service: Update log string to correctly denote what it waits on https://review.openstack.org/229173 | 22:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.service: Update log string to correctly denote what it waits on https://review.openstack.org/229173 | 22:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.service: Move the common thread manipulating routine to a shared routine https://review.openstack.org/229174 | 22:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Allow for acking before/after processing (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/229186 | 23:40 |
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| harlowja | does anyone have any thoughts on how to remove https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/oslo_messaging/_drivers/common.py#L204 ? | 23:46 |
| harlowja | just seems like there has to be a better way :-/ | 23:46 |
| harlowja | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/taskflow/types.html#module-taskflow.types.failure is one such way, but it has its drawbacks also | 23:47 |
| harlowja | ^ doesn't try to regenerate dynamically new types | 23:47 |
| harlowja | lifeless do u know of any way to combine those 2 maybe in a nice and sane manner? | 23:47 |
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| harlowja | perhaps http://docs.openstack.org/developer/taskflow/types.html#module-taskflow.types.failure can be combined with a FailureReconstructor that can convert failure -> exceptions, but that reconstructor will be given a restricted set of functions that can do that recreation, hopefully without the stuff in common.py | 23:50 |
| lifeless | harlowja: looking | 23:55 |
| harlowja | k | 23:57 |
| harlowja | u may have brilliant idears! | 23:57 |
| lifeless | harlowja: the taskflow prose there is hurting my head :) | 23:59 |
| harlowja | lol | 23:59 |
| harlowja | i have a wordy problem | 23:59 |
| harlowja | lol | 23:59 |
| lifeless | dependened | 23:59 |
| harlowja | i think i got told in college that i write to much | 23:59 |
| harlowja | lol | 23:59 |
| harlowja | hmmm, let me fix that :-P | 23:59 |
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