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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/automaton: Allow for raising on duplicate transition registration https://review.openstack.org/211985 | 00:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Provide the executor 'wait' function a timeout and use it https://review.openstack.org/204883 | 06:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/oslo.messaging: Provide the executor 'wait' function a timeout and use it https://review.openstack.org/204883 | 06:09 |
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| ihrachys | whoever is avail for some oslo.config chat re --config-dir behaviour, please ping me | 11:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.messaging: Port the AMQP1 driver to new Pyngus SASL API https://review.openstack.org/204246 | 13:56 |
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| ihrachys | dims: dhellmann: an oslo.config question in context of a neutron bug... | 14:15 |
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| ihrachys | due to https://launchpad.net/bugs/1490990, we need to have a way to get a list of config-dirs passed to neutron, but it seems oslo.config maintains only the last one | 14:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1490990 in puppet-neutron "acceptance: neutron fails to start server service" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Emilien Macchi (emilienm) | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | this is not an openstack bug | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | this is packaging, see bug description | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | in RDO, it's fixed this week I guess | 14:16 |
| ihrachys | EmilienM: first read comments | 14:16 |
| ihrachys | RDO does nothing bad, it uses --config-dir as expected | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | ok looking | 14:17 |
| ihrachys | EmilienM: and what do you mean it's fixed?.. | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | wow | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | ihrachys: no in fact RDO was about to fix it by moving the file | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | ihrachys: so yeah, I guess your comment are valid | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | thanks for looking at that | 14:18 |
| ihrachys | EmilienM: it was not about to do it, I would -2 it immediately if I see such a fix | 14:18 |
| ihrachys | there is a rationale behind the order of config-dirs we use in RDO | 14:18 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachys: I'm not sure we ever supported more than one directory, did we? | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | ihrachys: --config-file can be repeated, but I don't think that's how we expected --config-dir to work. | 14:28 |
| dhellmann | ihrachys: I'll comment on the bug | 14:28 |
| ihrachys | dhellmann: really? well that a problem because RDO adopted it that way. | 14:29 |
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| ihrachys | dhellmann: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.config/cfg.html#loading-config-files "The order of configuration files inside the same configuration directory is defined by the alphabetic sorting order of their file names." that made me think it supports multiple dirs, since it refers to 'same' dir | 14:31 |
| openstackgerrit | you_N_G proposed openstack/oslo.utils: only capture the ImportError when importing If the __init__ function raise a ImportError, it will also be catched. So We should call the __init__ function outside the try except clause https://review.openstack.org/220168 | 14:31 |
| dhellmann | ihrachys: yes, I grant that's confusing | 14:32 |
| ihrachys | so now we have RDO and RHEL-OSP kilo+ that rely on it, and we even advertise the feature with https://github.com/openstack-packages/neutron/blob/rpm-master/conf.README | 14:33 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachys: that's unfortunate. I've left some notes on the bug about a proposed way to address it, but breaking backwards compatibility for others to fix it for RDO is going to be a tough approach to sell. | 14:36 |
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| dims | dhellmann: thanks! | 14:40 |
| ihrachys | dhellmann: I would be ok with --config-path | 14:40 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachys: I'm doing some experimenting | 14:45 |
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| ihrachys | dhellmann: tripleo relies on it to: https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-image-elements/blob/master/elements/nova-api/install.d/nova-source-install/80-nova-api#L15 | 14:46 |
| ihrachys | dhellmann: I actually raised the question on the approach in March: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/059088.html | 14:47 |
| dhellmann | ihrachys: passing the option more than once does load all of the config files, it just doesn't save the directory names | 14:48 |
| dhellmann | ihrachys: do you need all of the directory names for some reason? | 14:48 |
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| ihrachys | dhellmann: I think I do, since in the neutron patch that broke puppet, it's assumed there is only one config-dir; if we would have a list, we could iterate/choose the first one/anything else | 14:49 |
| ihrachys | dhellmann: yes, the feature works as RDO expects except that config_dir is overridden instead of 'extended'. we could add a private list somewhere and a function to access it, and populate the list from config-dir handler. | 14:50 |
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| sbelous | hi, dims! | 15:08 |
| dims | sbelous: hello | 15:08 |
| sbelous | dims, thanks for your respond and help in email two days ago (about register_opts in oslo.conf and using fixture). I tried it and everything work perfect. | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | ihrachys: but the question is why something outside of oslo.config needs access to that list of directories. If they're being scanned, and the options are loaded, why is that not enough? | 15:09 |
| sbelous | dims, but I have a question. As I can understand, that same way (using fixture) must used in all similar situations. For example here https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/functional/agent/linux/test_ip_lib.py#L50 isn't it? | 15:09 |
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| ihrachys | dhellmann: well here I will need to describe you the sorry state of config handling in neutron after *aas split... so there is a file in neutron that reads some config files without oslo.config involvement: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202207/23/neutron/services/provider_configuration.py | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | ihrachys: I'm very tempted to stop you right there. :-( | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | but do go on | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | and that's because the idea was that those per-service files will be loaded by neutron if they are present, and not, otherwise, and we need to join values from neutron.conf and those files. | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | dhellmann: I am not the one who chose that direction :) | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | and I exressed concerns, yes | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | yeah, this should all have been done inside oslo.config somewhere | 15:12 |
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| ihrachys | agreed, but the way the split was rushed... it didn't allow time for this | 15:12 |
| ihrachys | it was basically all done in several days, while a sprint was running. | 15:13 |
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| ihrachys | so folks chose hacky ways | 15:13 |
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| ihrachys | I understand that oslo team is not obliged to accomodate neutron after that kind of abuse | 15:13 |
| ihrachys | dhellmann: those values are not even passed as --config-file | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | they are just magically detected, read and values melded into service_providers that are read from oslo.config | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | the idea was to drop that eventually, after all users moved their service_providers for *aas into new files | 15:14 |
| ihrachys | hopefully I make sense and reflect reality correctly | 15:15 |
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| dhellmann | dims: I'm interested in your thoughts on ^^. I have a patch mostly working to expose the path, but I'm unsure if it's a good idea or if we should be encouraging neutron to straighten this out differently. | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | ihrachys: did they not realize that oslo.config will merge config files for them? or does the logic used in oslo.config not do what they wanted in some other way? | 15:21 |
| dims | dhellmann: sbelous: on a call. be there in a bit | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | dims: k | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | dhellmann: I will try to understand it by discussing with armax | 15:21 |
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| ihrachys | indeed it's cfg.MultiStrOpt, so I don't understand what was the issue | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | well, it's possible that the way we merge files overrides values in file A when file B is loaded | 15:22 |
| ihrachys | dhellmann: I believe MultiStrOpt should merge, but yeah, it may be the case. I will get back to you. | 15:23 |
| dims | sbelous: we threw that fixture into the base test case in Nova - http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/test.py#n225 | 15:23 |
| dims | ihrachys: ack, will wait before i dig in :) | 15:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/taskflow: Allow persistence backends to take different (de)serializers https://review.openstack.org/219528 | 15:38 |
| sbelous | dims, got it, thanks. I guess it will be good to do the same for neutron | 15:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.config: Demonstrate that MultiStr values from multiple sources are merged https://review.openstack.org/220210 | 15:58 |
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| dhellmann | dims: I'm marking https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-neutron/+bug/1490990 as incomplete for oslo, because I suspect the solution is for neutron to drop their custom handling and let the library do it for them. I need more detail from the neutron team, though, before marking it wontfix. In the mean time, I've written a patch to expose the search path, but I haven't published it, yet. | 16:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1490990 in puppet-neutron "acceptance: neutron fails to start server service" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Emilien Macchi (emilienm) | 16:17 |
| EmilienM | what I thought a puppet bug was in fact packaging but maybe oslo and neutron :-) lol | 16:18 |
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| dhellmann | EmilienM: I think the real problem is neutron tried to work around something in oslo that isn't actually a problem, but I can't get anyone to explain why so I'm not 100% certain of that. | 16:24 |
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| jd__ | dhellmann: keystoneauth1, really? why 1? | 16:30 |
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| dhellmann | jd__: iiuc, they intend to maintain backwards compatibility by having multiple versions of the code in different packages to preserve imports, but maybe ask morgan for more details | 16:39 |
| morgan | jd__: ^ that | 16:39 |
| morgan | this is because SDK and other non-openstack client/server projects will be using it | 16:39 |
| morgan | the interfaces are designed to be extremely stable | 16:40 |
| morgan | if there is a need for an interface break at all, that is a major version bump | 16:40 |
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| morgan | we cannot break SDK or server-to-server type communication because something else on the system needed keystoneauth lib | 16:40 |
| morgan | if you look the requirements.txt is extremely narrow to limit tranisent dependencies (and zero oslo deps, though we have some oslo deps for testing) | 16:41 |
| morgan | jd__: ^ | 16:41 |
| jd__ | thanks :) | 16:42 |
| morgan | I hope we never need a keystoneauth2, but I expect it will be needed long term. | 16:42 |
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| morgan | jd__: there is a method to my madness :P | 16:42 |
| jd__ | haha | 16:42 |
| morgan | jd__: now I just need to get keystoneauth1 into g-r before tomorrow. | 16:43 |
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| dims | dhellmann: ack | 16:58 |
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| deray | dhellmann: hi .. and thank you for your suggestion for proliantutils logging .. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219161/ got merged | 17:08 |
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| rlrossit | dims: you'd be the best person to ask this question... For the o.vo object fingerprinting and asserting documentation that I'm expected to add to Magnum: should I just contribute that to o.vo seeing as all of the fingerprinting stuff is in the o.vo fixture? I can then reference that stuff when doing objects doc help for magnum. | 17:45 |
| dims | rlrossit: yes, please | 17:46 |
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| dhellmann | deray: glad to help! | 17:51 |
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| mhorban | sileht: hello! I'm trying to find explanation for this https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/oslo_messaging/server.py#L178 . Maybe you can help me? | 17:53 |
| mhorban | sileht: I don't understand why calling wait() before stop() is forbidden | 17:56 |
| dims | mhorban: i think it's because listener.cleanup() should be the last thing to call and it's called in wait() | 17:57 |
| dims | mhorban: wait() and stop() have been around with the same semantics for years now...https://github.com/markmc/oslo.messaging/blob/cbfb1452a4c85ca4eff5bc2b7803b556f7682856/oslo/messaging/server.py | 17:58 |
| mhorban | dims: I believe that self._executor.wait() is blockable call. It should be unblocked after some event like stop() call. So self._executor.listener.cleanup() will be the last thing | 18:02 |
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| harlowja | hmmmm, i wonder if mhorban wants wait() to just block until stop is called, vs blowing up | 18:08 |
| harlowja | sorry, logging, not blowing up | 18:09 |
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| mhorban | harlowja: I got message https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/oslo_messaging/server.py#L145 . In the comment dims says that we are going to change it to RuntimeError somewhere. And I try to understand what is the root reason of such behavior | 18:22 |
| harlowja | mhorban ya, i wonder why to, just block all the things, seems fine with me, not sure | 18:23 |
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| mhorban | My vision is that wait should be blocking call. And stop should be allowed to call from any of threads | 18:24 |
| mhorban | harlowja: sileht: Maybe there are some reasons ? | 18:25 |
| harlowja | unsure :-/ | 18:26 |
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| dims | kro_paternity: fyi - "Added CORS support to Keystone https://review.openstack.org/216387" | 19:48 |
| stevemar | dims: kro_paternity nice | 19:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack/oslo-specs: Spec for pbr changes for pip https://review.openstack.org/219468 | 21:55 |
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